Re: [OAUTH-WG] Ted Lemon's No Objection on draft-ietf-oauth-json-web-token-27: (with COMMENT)

2014-10-07 Thread Ted Lemon
On Oct 7, 2014, at 1:29 AM, Mike Jones michael.jo...@microsoft.com wrote: I propose that we add language about If both signing and encryption are necessary in order to make the context of this advice clear. Would that resolution be acceptable to you, Ted? So you're saying that if signing

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Ted Lemon's No Objection on draft-ietf-oauth-json-web-token-27: (with COMMENT)

2014-10-07 Thread Ted Lemon
On Oct 7, 2014, at 10:57 AM, John Bradley ve7...@ve7jtb.com wrote: The main reason for signing inside the encryption, tends to be legal in that a signature over something you can't see is not considered enforceable most places. So if you are signing for non repudiation then inside the

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Ted Lemon's No Objection on draft-ietf-oauth-json-web-token-27: (with COMMENT)

2014-10-07 Thread John Bradley
Section 11.2 makes both points. Encrypting and then signing is likely only a special case used by some applications that are configured to understand what is going on. If you are going to do it in that order you would want to be certain that you don't accept a JWT that has no signature.

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Ted Lemon's No Objection on draft-ietf-oauth-json-web-token-27: (with COMMENT)

2014-10-07 Thread Mike Jones
-Original Message- From: Ted Lemon [mailto:ted.le...@nominum.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 10:30 AM To: John Bradley Cc: The IESG; Mike Jones; draft-ietf-oauth-json-web-to...@tools.ietf.org; oauth-cha...@tools.ietf.org; oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: Ted Lemon's No Objection on

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Ted Lemon's No Objection on draft-ietf-oauth-json-web-token-27: (with COMMENT)

2014-10-07 Thread Kathleen Moriarty
Thank you, both! I'm glad to see this one resolved. FYI - I'll be at the Grace Hopper Celebration through Friday evening and may be slow to respond, but will be following along. On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 9:06 PM, Mike Jones michael.jo...@microsoft.com wrote: -Original Message- From:

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Ted Lemon's No Objection on draft-ietf-oauth-json-web-token-27: (with COMMENT)

2014-10-07 Thread Ted Lemon
On Oct 7, 2014, at 9:06 PM, Mike Jones michael.jo...@microsoft.com wrote: I'll plan to take the action described yesterday that you said you were OK with - adding language about If both signing and encryption are necessary in order to make the context of this advice clear. I believe that