Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth Digest, Vol 81, Issue 86

2015-07-23 Thread Erik Wahlström
Hi, Thanks for a great document! I volunteered to review draft-wdenniss-oauth-native-apps-00 at the #IETF93 meeting so here we go: In national mobile eID deployments an app is issued by gov or other organisation in a country. The app acts as the users authentication method and it works with an

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth Digest, Vol 81, Issue 86

2015-07-23 Thread John Bradley
Thanks for the review Erik, We will go through it in detail and get back to you. I am working with a couple of governments on how a eID app could use the self issued profile of OpenID Connect to issue tokens. There are also other out of band authentication apps that people use that need to

[OAUTH-WG] Meeting Minutes

2015-07-23 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Here are the notes from our meeting yesterday: https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/93/minutes/minutes-93-oauth Thanks to Erik for taking notes. Please let me know if something is missing or incorrect within the next 2 weeks. Ciao Hannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authentication Method Reference Values Specification

2015-07-23 Thread Nat Sakimura
So, allow me a naive question. I supppose there are good random otp, as well as pretty bad otp etc. Would it be useful to say just otp. Would it not be better to have at least a field that references a spec that specifies the security requirement for that mechanism? 2015-07-23 12:05 GMT+02:00

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authentication Method Reference Values Specification

2015-07-23 Thread Mike Jones
I agree that an obvious good thing to do is to add spec references to the field definitions. I need to investigate use cases for amr_values. I think this came from developers who actually wanted this for a particular purpose but I’ll have to get back to the WG on that. It’s defined here,

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authentication Method Reference Values Specification

2015-07-23 Thread John Bradley
I don’t personally have a problem with people defining values for AMR and creating a IANA registry. That exists for ACR. I am on record as not supporting clients requesting amr as it ai a bad idea and the spec mentions that at the same time it defines a new request parameter for it. It is

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authentication Method Reference Values Specification

2015-07-23 Thread Justin Richer
Useful work, but shouldn’t this be defined in the OIDF, where the “amr parameter is defined? — Justin On Jul 22, 2015, at 7:48 PM, Mike Jones michael.jo...@microsoft.com wrote: Phil Hunt and I have posted a new draft that defines some values used with the “amr” (Authentication Methods

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authentication Method Reference Values Specification

2015-07-23 Thread Mike Jones
The key part of this is establishing a registry. That can only be done in an RFC. John, I encourage you to submit text beefing up the arguments about why using “acr” is preferable. The text at http://self-issued.info/docs/draft-jones-oauth-amr-values-00.html#acrRelationship is a start at

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authentication Method Reference Values Specification

2015-07-23 Thread Phil Hunt
I do tend to agree John that clients shouldn't be able to force the sp on choices. My thought was that it was useful to have a registry so we can have standard auth method values for protocols that get written like oidc. It may be useful elsewhere. Anyway as a general rule I think it is

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authentication Method Reference Values Specification

2015-07-23 Thread Brian Campbell
So maybe a naive question but why does this draft define amr_values while also suggesting that it's fragile and that acr acr_values is preferable? Seems contradictory. And I doubt I'm the only one that will find it confusing. On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Mike Jones

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth implementation fail

2015-07-23 Thread Barry Leiba
Now, as to the spec change is concerned, I agree with John that it is not required. However, a Best practice document would probably help the developers. That's exactly what I had in mind -- no spec change, but something (or some things) to help guide developers into do the right thing,