Re: [OAUTH-WG] WGLC on draft-ietf-oauth-v2-13.txt

2011-03-25 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
-Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Peter Saint-Andre Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 2:27 PM 1. I think it would help in the Introduction to state specifically that this protocol is designed for use on the web and with HTTP

Re: [OAUTH-WG] draft-ietf-oauth-v2-13 comments

2011-03-25 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
...@proofpoint.com] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 4:43 PM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav; oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: draft-ietf-oauth-v2-13 comments 3. I believe that section 5.2 is ambiguous as to the error code that should be returned from the token endpoint when the client credentials are valid

[OAUTH-WG] Preview of -14

2011-03-25 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
https://github.com/hueniverse/draft-ietf-oauth/raw/master/draft-ietf-oauth-v2.txt This includes all the feedback received until now. My queue is now empty except for the need to propose a new error code extensibility solution to accommodate the needs of protocol extensions. I replied back to

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Feedback on draft-ietf-oauth-v2-13

2011-03-25 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
It's a safe language to align it with common assumptions. Also, in the case of URI values, they are usually case insensitive. EHL -Original Message- From: Brian Campbell [mailto:bcampb...@pingidentity.com] Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 8:00 AM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: Mike Jones

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Feedback on draft-ieft-oauth-v2-13.txt

2011-03-25 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
-Original Message- From: Freeman, Tim [mailto:tim.free...@hp.com] Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 11:48 AM Tim: Section 2.1.1 says If a redirection URI was registered, the authorization server MUST compare any redirection URI received at the authorization endpoint with the

Re: [OAUTH-WG] WGLC on draft-ietf-oauth-v2-13.txt

2011-03-25 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Unless someone has an objection, I'll make the change from SHOULD to MUST. EHL -Original Message- From: Phil Hunt [mailto:phil.h...@oracle.com] Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 12:42 PM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: OAuth WG; Chuck Mara Mortimore Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] WGLC on draft-ietf

Re: [OAUTH-WG] What's up with the secuity considerations? (was RE: Preview of -14)

2011-03-25 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Coming right after IETF-80 in -15. EHL From: Freeman, Tim [mailto:tim.free...@hp.com] Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 5:16 PM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav; OAuth WG Subject: What's up with the secuity considerations? (was RE: Preview of -14) What's the plan for filling in the security considerations

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Apparent consensus on OAuth Errors Registry

2011-03-24 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
You should probably go read RFC 2616 again... EHL -Original Message- From: Anthony Nadalin [mailto:tony...@microsoft.com] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 2:15 PM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav; Phil Hunt; Manger, James H Cc: oauth@ietf.org Subject: RE: [OAUTH-WG] Apparent consensus on OAuth

Re: [OAUTH-WG] -13 4.3.2: internationalization consideration for username and password

2011-03-24 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Removed. EHL From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Eran Hammer-Lahav Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 11:03 AM To: OAuth WG Subject: [OAUTH-WG] -13 4.3.2: internationalization consideration for username and password Unless someone provides a proposed text

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft13: What are the possible OAuth related access errors for section 7?

2011-03-24 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
-Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Phil Hunt Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 4:49 PM To: OAuth WG Subject: [OAUTH-WG] Draft13: What are the possible OAuth related access errors for section 7? When accessing a protected

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Indicating origin of OAuth credentials to combat login CSRF

2011-03-24 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Was there any conclusion? EHL From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Manger, James H Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 4:09 PM To: OAuth Mailing List; web...@ietf.org Subject: [OAUTH-WG] Indicating origin of OAuth credentials to combat login CSRF Q. Should an

Re: [OAUTH-WG] WGLC on draft-ietf-oauth-v2-13.txt

2011-03-24 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
I have started processing all the incoming feedback (expect responses to each note received). If you have additional feedback, I suggest it waits for the next draft (-14). However, if it is a blocking comment, please post to the list as soon as possible. EHL -Original Message- From:

Re: [OAUTH-WG] slightly alternative preamble (was: Re: Draft -12 feedback deadline)

2011-03-24 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Done. Also removed ' and the authentication of the client is based on the user-agent's same-origin policy'. EHL -Original Message- From: Brian Campbell [mailto:bcampb...@pingidentity.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 6:05 AM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: Marius Scurtescu; OAuth WG

Re: [OAUTH-WG] draft-ietf-oauth-v2-13 comments

2011-03-24 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
-Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mark Kent Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 1:19 PM 1. The error response mechanism for the authorization endpoint depends on the response_type being requested. Assuming that the client and

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Implicit Grant Client Authentication

2011-03-24 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
This line was left over from an earlier draft. It's now removed. It may reappear in the security considerations section. EHL -Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Craig Heath Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 10:33 AM To:

Re: [OAUTH-WG] WGLC on draft-ietf-oauth-v2-13.txt

2011-03-24 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
-Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Torsten Lodderstedt Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 3:51 PM section 1.4: An authorization grant is a general term used to describe the intermediate credentials ... Since passwords represent

Re: [OAUTH-WG] WGLC on draft-ietf-oauth-v2-13.txt

2011-03-24 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
-Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Mortimore Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 6:10 PM 1) I'd vote for dropping the following from 1.4.2.   In turn I'd discuss some of the security considerations, such as difficulty of

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Feedback on draft-ietf-oauth-v2-13

2011-03-24 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
-Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mike Jones Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 7:52 AM 2.1.1:  If no valid redirection URI is available, the authorization server SHOULD - I don't understand why this is a SHOULD and not a MUST

Re: [OAUTH-WG] WGLC on draft-ietf-oauth-v2-13.txt

2011-03-24 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
-Original Message- From: Chuck Mortimore [mailto:cmortim...@salesforce.com] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 7:22 PM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] WGLC on draft-ietf-oauth-v2-13.txt On Mar 24, 2011, at 6:36 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav e...@hueniverse.com

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Apparent consensus on OAuth Errors Registry

2011-03-23 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
-Original Message- From: Anthony Nadalin [mailto:tony...@microsoft.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 3:11 PM I don't believe that there is anything wrong in combining into a single registry, as this has been done in other specifications. There are very different endpoints with

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Apparent consensus on OAuth Errors Registry

2011-03-22 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 9:45 AM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: Manger, James H; oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Apparent consensus on OAuth Errors Registry Eran, Thanks. Thats the best summary of the problem and I think it will help move the discussion forward (finally). Issue 1: Since only one

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Apparent consensus on OAuth Errors Registry

2011-03-22 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
but is not an OAuth extension. OAuth extensions are specifications directly affecting the process of obtaining tokens, not using tokens. EHL From: Anthony Nadalin [mailto:tony...@microsoft.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 2:32 PM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav; Phil Hunt; Manger, James H Cc: oauth@ietf.org Subject

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Apparent consensus on OAuth Errors Registry

2011-03-21 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Nadalin For D or C: Eran Hammer-Lahav William Mills Given that twice as many people indicated a preference for A as for any other option, that seems to indicate a consensus for A. Therefore Eran, when you update your draft, can you please proceed on that basis

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Apparent consensus on OAuth Errors Registry

2011-03-21 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
-21, at 9:48 AM, Mike Jones wrote: People voted as follows in the poll I conducted on the OAuth Errors Registry: For A: Mike Jones Igor Faynberg Justin Richter Anthony Nadalin For D or C: Eran Hammer-Lahav

Re: [OAUTH-WG] WGLC on draft-ietf-oauth-saml2-bearer-03.txt

2011-03-19 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
We had last calls for v2 and bearer. This is for the SAML profile. EHL -Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mike Jones Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 11:04 AM To: Hannes Tschofenig; oauth@ietf.org WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG]

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal

2011-03-17 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
To: Eran Hammer-Lahav; Hannes Tschofenig; oauth@ietf.org Subject: RE: [OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal I think it does for example how one might discover the authorization service and this would be a forum to see if others also do or not. -Original Message- From: Eran Hammer-Lahav

Re: [OAUTH-WG] WGLC on draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-03.txt

2011-03-16 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
-Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Justin Richer Mutual cross-reference between the MAC and Bearer specs might help people trying to decide what kind of OAuth token to use. Speaking for MAC - over my dead body :-) EHL

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Method of validating client id client secret for authenticated requests?

2011-03-16 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
OAuth 2 intentionally dropped the use of client credentials when making protected resource requests. This seems to be your main issue. If you are going to use MAC tokens, one easy solution is to tell your developers to simply concatenate the client secret with the token secret when signing the

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Vote: Location of OAuth Errors Registry, deadline Friday, March 18

2011-03-15 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
for such requirements)? EHL Cheers, -- Mike -Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Eran Hammer-Lahav Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 6:30 PM To: David Recordon Cc: oauth@ietf.org

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Vote: Location of OAuth Errors Registry, deadline Friday, March 18

2011-03-15 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
-Original Message- From: Justin Richer [mailto:jric...@mitre.org] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 2:38 PM Having a standard set of oauth errors on the protected resource is a good idea. That said: Not practical. Given the wide range of token types and schemes, each will have to

Re: [OAUTH-WG] WGLC on draft-ietf-oauth-v2-13.txt

2011-03-14 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
2 more days. Please reserve some time to read the entire document and provide detailed feedback. EHL -Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Hannes Tschofenig Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 11:32 PM To: OAuth WG Subject:

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Vote: Location of OAuth Errors Registry, deadline Friday, March 18

2011-03-14 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
It's a clear example of defining facilities without *ANY* use cases or requirements. We have clear use cases and actual registration requests for the current registries defined in v2. What's most annoying about this entire push for an error registry is that the author and supporters have all

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Vote: Location of OAuth Errors Registry, deadline Friday, March 18

2011-03-14 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
indicated earlier, I don't agree yet with the choices and would like more information on the registry and use cases. Phil phil.h...@oracle.com On 2011-03-14, at 6:29 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote: It's a clear example of defining facilities without *ANY* use cases or requirements

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Vote: Location of OAuth Errors Registry, deadline Friday, March 18

2011-03-12 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Decisions are never made outside the list. EHL -Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Phillip Hunt Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 10:19 PM To: Anthony Nadalin Cc: oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Vote: Location of OAuth

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Vote: Location of OAuth Errors Registry, deadline Friday, March 18

2011-03-11 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
D (not objection to C). So far, not a single use case or technical rational has been presented to justify option A. Option B is not a valid option per IETF process (for option B to be valid, the protocol spec must first be published as an RFC, and they the bearer token spec updates it). This

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth Bearer Token draft

2011-03-10 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
There are a few issues to consider. 1. Should the spec support sending bearer token in a query parameter? - The argument that there are many use cases for this is unproven. JSON-P is one valid example (though JSON-P usage is in decline with new methods for cross-domain calls), but so far the

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth Bearer Token draft

2011-03-08 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
I hope this will be the last time we define a query parameter for delivering what should be sent via a request header field. Infringing on a service's namespace is always a bad idea, no matter what prefix we put next to it. EHL From: William J. Mills

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth Bearer Token draft

2011-03-08 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
, but this working group has had no problems putting all kinds of parameters into that space. Unless we want to say that we can't use query or form parameters in specifications ever again, this argument doesn't really hold up. -- Justin From: Eran Hammer-Lahav [e

Re: [OAUTH-WG] slightly alternative preamble (was: Re: Draft -12 feedback deadline)

2011-03-07 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
words is a small change but one that I feel would be beneficial on a number of fronts. Thanks, Brian [1] http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-oauth-v2-13#section-4.2 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Eran Hammer- Lahave...@hueniverse.com wrote: Feel free to propose alternative

Re: [OAUTH-WG] RFC5849 - Purpose of Temporary Credentials Shared Secret?

2011-03-02 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
the security purpose of the Temporary Credentials shared secret? If an implementation were to, say, always use an empty string, would it make any difference to the security of the protocol? - Craig. -Original Message- From: Eran Hammer-Lahav Sent: 02-03-2011, 8:27 pm To: Craig Heath

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth bearer token draft ready for working group last call

2011-02-28 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
I am opposed to all the new registration changes and requirements which have any impact on draft-ietf-oauth-v2. This request seems a bit odd given my feedback (which you have, again, ignored). EHL From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mike Jones Sent:

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth bearer token draft ready for working group last call

2011-02-28 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
, and examples for each of your new proposals? --- Did I miss a reply? EHL From: Mike Jones [mailto:michael.jo...@microsoft.com] Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 1:25 PM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav; Hannes Tschofenig; Blaine Cook Cc: oauth@ietf.org Subject: RE: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth bearer token draft ready

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth bearer token draft ready for working group last call

2011-02-28 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
: Monday, February 28, 2011 1:34 PM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: oauth@ietf.org Subject: RE: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth bearer token draft ready for working group last call I realize that we disagree. Unless you change your position, it seems that the working group will need to decide whether registering error

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft -12 feedback deadline

2011-02-28 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
One more round trip is often too slow. EHL -Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Phil Hunt Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 3:18 PM To: Marius Scurtescu Cc: OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft -12 feedback deadline Given

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth bearer token draft ready for working group last call

2011-02-28 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Hey Justin, Can you provide some examples, use cases or requirements? EHL -Original Message- From: Richer, Justin P. [mailto:jric...@mitre.org] Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 2:29 PM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav; Mike Jones; Hannes Tschofenig; Blaine Cook Cc: oauth@ietf.org Subject: RE

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Breaking change for authorization code flow?

2011-02-26 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
I think you are making too much of this. Section 3.2 clearly states: In addition, the authorization server MAY allow unauthenticated access token requests when the client identity does not matter (e.g. anonymous client) or when the client identity is established via other means. Which

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth Errors Registry and OAuth Parameters Registry

2011-02-25 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
I don't see a point in an error registry (and I find it odd for the Bearer token specification to impose any requirements of the protocol specification). Registries are created to prevent namespace collision. I don't see real problem with collision of error codes, especially not for a while.

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth Errors Registry and OAuth Parameters Registry

2011-02-25 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
proposals? EHL From: Mike Jones [mailto:michael.jo...@microsoft.com] Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 2:40 PM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav; oauth@ietf.org Subject: RE: OAuth Errors Registry and OAuth Parameters Registry I see a problem with collision of error codes. I believe that the working group

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth Bearer Token draft

2011-02-25 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
'oauth_token' is limited to bearer tokens only. It is not suitable for anything else. It is a hack and should be treated as such. The right (extensible) solution is to use the HTTP Authorization header, which comes with its own extensibility model. EHL From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-lodderstedt-oauth-security-00

2011-02-22 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
, February 21, 2011 9:36 PM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: Torsten Lodderstedt; OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-lodderstedt-oauth-security-00 On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav e...@hueniverse.commailto:e...@hueniverse.com wrote: How do you

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth2 queries

2011-02-20 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
-Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Toby White Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 8:12 AM To: OAuth Mailing List Subject: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth2 queries Some more OAuth2 queries (based on reading -13) * There's no direct

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-lodderstedt-oauth-security-00

2011-02-20 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Thanks for submitting this draft. How do you envision this being incorporated into v2? Just section 5 or the entire document? EHL From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Torsten Lodderstedt Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 11:05 AM To: OAuth WG Subject:

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Client Assertion Credentials (again)

2011-02-18 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
By #3 Hannes meant defining another option in the spec, not just allowing it to be defined elsewhere. EHL -Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Phillip Hunt Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 10:22 AM To: Hannes Tschofenig Cc:

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Freedom of assembly for response_type

2011-02-17 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
The best approach (at this point) is to leave the spec unchanged. However, another spec can update the definition of the response_type parameter, including defining a registry or other methods for extensibility. We can define this now, and it will not have any impact on existing code, but I am

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Freedom of assembly for response_type

2011-02-17 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
to extend. That's like the OAuth 1.0 utterly broken oauth_version parameter and the long confusion it created later on. EHL From: Breno [mailto:breno.demedei...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:58 PM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Freedom

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Freedom of assembly for response_type

2011-02-17 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
[mailto:breno.demedei...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 4:22 PM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Freedom of assembly for response_type The use case is very straightforward: - SAML provides session management. Facebook Connect provides session management. Both use

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Freedom of assembly for response_type

2011-02-17 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
17, 2011 4:50 PM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Freedom of assembly for response_type On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav e...@hueniverse.commailto:e...@hueniverse.com wrote: I am not questioning the use case, only how it fits within the OAuth

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Freedom of assembly for response_type

2011-02-17 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Ok. So you want to request a cookie from both endpoints: the authorization endpoint and the token endpoint? How would that work? There is no response_type on the token endpoint. EHL From: Breno [mailto:breno.demedei...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 9:30 PM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Freedom of assembly for response_type

2011-02-17 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
You mean this is encoded into the authorization code? EHL From: Breno [mailto:breno.demedei...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 10:07 PM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Freedom of assembly for response_type On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Eran

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Freedom of assembly for response_type

2011-02-17 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Can you send an example wire interaction? EHL From: Breno [mailto:breno.demedei...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 10:07 PM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Freedom of assembly for response_type On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav e

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft -12 feedback deadline

2011-02-16 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
-Original Message- From: Marius Scurtescu [mailto:mscurte...@google.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 12:09 PM - 4.3. Resource Owner Password Credentials. The 3rd paragraph states that the client MUST discard the credentials once it obtains an access token. I think it SHOULD

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft -12 feedback deadline

2011-02-16 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
-Original Message- From: Marius Scurtescu [mailto:mscurte...@google.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 12:09 PM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft -12 feedback deadline - 4.1. Authorization Code. It is stated that authorization code is suitable

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft -12 feedback deadline

2011-02-16 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
-Original Message- From: Skylar Woodward [mailto:sky...@kiva.org] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 2:37 AM -- 3.1.1, 4.1.2, and Out-of-Band flows It is an important consideration for us that clients that cannot capture a redirect from the user-agent be able to use authentication

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft -12 feedback deadline

2011-02-16 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
-Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Richer, Justin P. Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:05 PM 1.2 Tokens may be pure capabilities. To a non-security-engineer such as myself, this bit reads very oddly on its own. I

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Missing Client Credentials on Token Endpoint - Which Error Response?

2011-02-16 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
(a) is more appropriate. See -13 for revised language. EHL -Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Stuebner, Christian (extern) Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 8:01 AM To: 'oauth@ietf.org' Subject: [OAUTH-WG] Missing Client

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft -12 feedback deadline

2011-02-16 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
-Original Message- From: Marius Scurtescu [mailto:mscurte...@google.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 9:05 AM Yes, I understand. But Native Apps have no appropriate flow now, and they started the whole protocol. I am not sure they started the whole protocol (it was more like

[OAUTH-WG] Working group last call request for: draft-ietf-oauth-v2-13

2011-02-16 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Draft -13 includes all feedback received (unless was noted otherwise on the list) to date. It does not include any implementation changes since -12. Given the stable state of this draft and the lack of any blocking issues raised for the included text, I would like to officially request the

[OAUTH-WG] -13 4.3.2: internationalization consideration for username and password

2011-02-16 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Unless someone provides a proposed text to address internationalization consideration for username and password, I am going to remove this note unaddressed. EHL ___ OAuth mailing list OAuth@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft -12 feedback deadline

2011-02-16 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
The reason why we don't return a refresh token in the implicit grant is exactly because there is no client authentication... These are all well-balanced flows with specific security properties. If you need something else, even if it is just a tweak, it must be considered a different flow. That

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft -12 feedback deadline

2011-02-16 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
: Marius Scurtescu [mailto:mscurte...@google.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 1:39 PM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: Brian Campbell; OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft -12 feedback deadline On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav e...@hueniverse.com wrote: The reason why we

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Queries on draft-hammer-oauth-v2-mac-token-02

2011-02-13 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Hey Toby, -Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Toby White Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 5:57 PM * Can the timestamp parameter have leading zeroes? ie, would an authorization header be valid which read: Authorization:

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Hum about 'Removal: Client Assertion Credentials'

2011-02-10 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
There wasn't a vote. Just call for feedback and so far I haven't seen consensus. EHL -Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Phil Hunt Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 3:11 PM To: OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Hum about

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Discovery RE: Bearer token type and scheme name (deadline: 2/10)

2011-02-08 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
-Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Manger, James H Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 11:31 PM 3. Define link relations. Link: http://login.example.com/auth? rel=oauth2-auth This feels possible, but not ideal. Details

Re: [OAUTH-WG] draft-hammer-oauth-v2-mac-token-02

2011-02-08 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
There is no way I'm going to allow not signing the request URI and any query parameters. That leaves just the body... EHL -Original Message- From: Skylar Woodward [mailto:sky...@kiva.org] Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 11:43 PM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: OAuth WG Subject: Re

Re: [OAUTH-WG] draft-hammer-oauth-v2-mac-token-02

2011-02-08 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
: Skylar Woodward [mailto:sky...@kiva.org] Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 12:57 AM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] draft-hammer-oauth-v2-mac-token-02 On Feb 8, 2011, at 6:45 AM, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote: This authentication method comes with well understood security

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Discovery RE: Bearer token type and scheme name (deadline: 2/10)

2011-02-08 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
pointless. EHL -Original Message- From: William Mills [mailto:wmi...@yahoo-inc.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 2:40 PM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav; Torsten Lodderstedt Cc: OAuth WG Subject: RE: [OAUTH-WG] Discovery RE: Bearer token type and scheme name (deadline: 2/10) So, if we go

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Bearer token type and scheme name (deadline: 2/10)

2011-02-08 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Marius Scurtescu Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 9:24 AM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Bearer token type and scheme name (deadline: 2/10) On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Bearer token scheme name - new vote deadline Sat, 2/12

2011-02-08 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Why are we doing this again??? This was clearly option #3 which got no support. EHL From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mike Jones Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 3:05 PM To: oauth@ietf.org Subject: [OAUTH-WG] Bearer token scheme name - new vote deadline

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Bearer token scheme name - new vote deadline Sat, 2/12

2011-02-08 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
#2 From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mike Jones Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 3:17 PM To: Manger, James H; oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Bearer token scheme name - new vote deadline Sat, 2/12 Yes, but it also had other options that were none

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Bearer token type and scheme name (deadline: 2/10)

2011-02-07 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Yes, any token issued via OAuth by an authorization server is an OAuth token by definition. Which makes 'token_type=oauth2' an silly and confusing statement, given that any token issued via this method is also an OAuth 2.0 token... but for some reason only one is labeled oauth2. EHL From:

Re: [OAUTH-WG] draft-hammer-oauth-v2-mac-token-02

2011-02-07 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Message- From: Skylar Woodward [mailto:sky...@kiva.org] Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 9:25 AM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav; OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] draft-hammer-oauth-v2-mac-token-02 On body-hash... Having completed a trial implementation, it seems redundant, and potentially problematic

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Bearer token type and scheme name (deadline: 2/10)

2011-02-07 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
What don’t you agree with? EHL From: Phillip Hunt [mailto:phil.h...@oracle.com] Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 8:29 AM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: Dirk Balfanz; Manger, James H; OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Bearer token type and scheme name (deadline: 2/10) -1 I don't agree fully here

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Bearer token type and scheme name (deadline: 2/10)

2011-02-07 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
token is not compatible with the specification language, but this is just terminology and has little to no practical implications. EHL From: Phil Hunt [mailto:phil.h...@oracle.com] Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 10:16 AM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: Dirk Balfanz; Manger, James H; OAuth WG Subject

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Discovery RE: Bearer token type and scheme name (deadline: 2/10)

2011-02-07 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Eran Hammer-Lahav e...@hueniverse.com wrote: Hey Marius, -Original Message- From: Marius Scurtescu [mailto:mscurte...@google.com] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 10:36 AM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Bearer token

Re: [OAUTH-WG] draft-hammer-oauth-v2-mac-token-02

2011-02-07 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
parameters are critical to the request integrity. The right solution here is to provide either a library for your developers, or an API without any parameters. EHL On Jan 22, 2011, at 2:09 AM, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hammer-oauth-v2-mac-token-02 New

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Bearer token type and scheme name (deadline: 2/10)

2011-02-07 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
This is where we stand so far: Option 1 -- 14 votes William Mills Eran Hammer-Lahav Franklin Tse David Recordon Peter Saint-Andre Phil Hunt Skylar Woodward Michael Adams Igor Faynberg Justin Hart Brian Campbell Luke Shepard James Manger Minoo Hamilton Option 2 -- 1 vote Marius Scurtescu

Re: [OAUTH-WG] draft-hammer-oauth-v2-mac-token-02

2011-02-05 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
I'm confused. Can you cut-and-paste the problematic text? From: William Mills [mailto:wmi...@yahoo-inc.com] Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 8:42 AM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav; OAuth WG Subject: RE: draft-hammer-oauth-v2-mac-token-02 Reading through and looking at your example in 1.1 I think you

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Bearer token type and scheme name (deadline: 2/10)

2011-02-04 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Of Eran Hammer-Lahav Sent: Thursday, 3 February 2011 7:34 PM To: OAuth WG Subject: [OAUTH-WG] Bearer token type and scheme name (deadline: 2/10) After a long back-and-forth, I think it is time to present a few options and have people express their preferences

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Bearer token type and scheme name (deadline: 2/10)

2011-02-04 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
-Original Message- From: Marius Scurtescu [mailto:mscurte...@google.com] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 9:39 AM - schemes are not easily reusable outside OAuth. Sure. But I really don't see this group trying to create generic authentication schemes. MAC is exactly that.

[OAUTH-WG] Bearer token type and scheme name (deadline: 2/10)

2011-02-03 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
After a long back-and-forth, I think it is time to present a few options and have people express their preferences. These are the options mentioned so far and their +/-: 1. Descriptive, non-OAuth-specific scheme names (Bearer, MAC) Each token type gets its own name (which does not include the

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Hum about 'Removal: HTTP Basic Authentication for Client Credentials'

2011-02-03 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
03, 2011 5:03 AM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav; Hannes Tschofenig; oauth@ietf.org Subject: RE: [OAUTH-WG] Hum about 'Removal: HTTP Basic Authentication for Client Credentials' The main question for me is: What is mandatory to implement? Nothing. The authorization server can support whatever

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Hum about 'Removal: OAuth2 HTTP Authentication Scheme'

2011-02-03 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
The problem with your entire statement below is that it doesn't explain how all those important goals listed are actually accomplished by this header as currently defined. Asking again... - Can you please explain how this header helps interoperability? - How does a client use this header to

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Bearer token type and scheme name (deadline: 2/10)

2011-02-03 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
a new option (with full analysis), or don't vote. EHL From: Mike Jones [mailto:michael.jo...@microsoft.com] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 8:20 AM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav; OAuth WG Subject: RE: Bearer token type and scheme name (deadline: 2/10) This seems like an overly complex characterization

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Bearer token type and scheme name (deadline: 2/10)

2011-02-03 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
/10) I'm coming around to #1, I'll put my vote there.I do agree that we have usage out there of the OAuth2 scheme and we need not to break that, how do we solve that? From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Eran Hammer-Lahav Sent: Thursday, February 03

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Bearer token type and scheme name (deadline: 2/10)

2011-02-03 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
, especially with regard to the extensive security review this scheme is getting. Calling the two current scheme and types 'Mac' and 'Bearer' is clean, simply, descriptive, and forward looking. EHL From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Eran Hammer-Lahav Sent

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Bearer token type and scheme name (deadline: 2/10)

2011-02-03 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
take it you fully agree with my analysis of the various options. And I'm actually implementing the specification thank-you-very-much. EHL From: Mike Jones [mailto:michael.jo...@microsoft.com] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 9:20 AM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav; OAuth WG Subject: RE: Bearer token type

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Bearer token type and scheme name (deadline: 2/10)

2011-02-03 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Hey Marius, -Original Message- From: Marius Scurtescu [mailto:mscurte...@google.com] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 10:36 AM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Bearer token type and scheme name (deadline: 2/10) On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 12:34 AM, Eran

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Refresh Token and Expires_in

2011-02-03 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Seems a bit odd to issue a refresh token for 6 hours. Why not just issue an access token for 6 hours without any refresh token. EHL -Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of matake@gmail Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 4:43 PM

Re: [OAUTH-WG] New Working Group Items?

2011-02-03 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
-Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Hannes Tschofenig Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 8:19 AM A) Simple Web Discovery (SWD) http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-jones-simple-web-discovery-00.txt This has no business in this

Re: [OAUTH-WG] assertion, client_assertion_type and client_assertion

2011-01-30 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Hey Marius, It is critical for us to discuss the client assertion credentials separately from the assertion authorization grant. The two have nothing to do with one another. EHL -Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Marius

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