Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authentication Method Reference Values Specification

2015-08-13 Thread Mike Jones
Jones; oauth@ietf.orgmailto:oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authentication Method Reference Values Specification I don’t personally have a problem with people defining values for AMR and creating a IANA registry. That exists for ACR. I am on record as not supporting clients requesting amr

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authentication Method Reference Values Specification

2015-08-13 Thread Mike Jones
Jones; William Denniss; oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authentication Method Reference Values Specification I am in favor of William's proposal. In addition, I would like to see one for 2nd channel auth, 2ch. That would indicate some resilience against MITB. On Saturday, July 25, 2015

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authentication Method Reference Values Specification

2015-08-13 Thread Mike Jones
: RE: [OAUTH-WG] Authentication Method Reference Values Specification I agree that an obvious good thing to do is to add spec references to the field definitions. I need to investigate use cases for amr_values. I think this came from developers who actually wanted this for a particular purpose

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authentication Method Reference Values Specification

2015-08-13 Thread Mike Jones
To: Mike Jones Cc: Nat Sakimura; William Denniss; oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authentication Method Reference Values Specification There's a method of authentication that is gaining in popularity which I'd propose adding a method for. It is typically used as a second factor where after

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authentication Method Reference Values Specification

2015-07-26 Thread Nat Sakimura
@ietf.org javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','oauth@ietf.org'); *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authentication Method Reference Values Specification So, allow me a naive question. I supppose there are good random otp, as well as pretty bad otp etc. Would it be useful to say just otp. Would it not be better

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authentication Method Reference Values Specification

2015-07-25 Thread Brian Campbell
@ietf.org *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authentication Method Reference Values Specification I don’t personally have a problem with people defining values for AMR and creating a IANA registry. That exists for ACR. I am on record as not supporting clients requesting amr as it ai a bad idea

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authentication Method Reference Values Specification

2015-07-23 Thread Nat Sakimura
is a start at that. -- Mike *From:* John Bradley [mailto:ve7...@ve7jtb.com] *Sent:* Thursday, July 23, 2015 9:30 AM *To:* Justin Richer *Cc:* Mike Jones; oauth@ietf.org *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authentication Method Reference

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authentication Method Reference Values Specification

2015-07-23 Thread Mike Jones
: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authentication Method Reference Values Specification So, allow me a naive question. I supppose there are good random otp, as well as pretty bad otp etc. Would it be useful to say just otp. Would it not be better to have at least a field that references a spec that specifies

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authentication Method Reference Values Specification

2015-07-23 Thread John Bradley
I don’t personally have a problem with people defining values for AMR and creating a IANA registry. That exists for ACR. I am on record as not supporting clients requesting amr as it ai a bad idea and the spec mentions that at the same time it defines a new request parameter for it. It is

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authentication Method Reference Values Specification

2015-07-23 Thread Justin Richer
Useful work, but shouldn’t this be defined in the OIDF, where the “amr parameter is defined? — Justin On Jul 22, 2015, at 7:48 PM, Mike Jones michael.jo...@microsoft.com wrote: Phil Hunt and I have posted a new draft that defines some values used with the “amr” (Authentication Methods

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authentication Method Reference Values Specification

2015-07-23 Thread Mike Jones
at that. -- Mike From: John Bradley [mailto:ve7...@ve7jtb.com] Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 9:30 AM To: Justin Richer Cc: Mike Jones; oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authentication Method Reference Values Specification I don’t

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authentication Method Reference Values Specification

2015-07-23 Thread Phil Hunt
I do tend to agree John that clients shouldn't be able to force the sp on choices. My thought was that it was useful to have a registry so we can have standard auth method values for protocols that get written like oidc. It may be useful elsewhere. Anyway as a general rule I think it is

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authentication Method Reference Values Specification

2015-07-23 Thread Brian Campbell
is a start at that. -- Mike *From:* John Bradley [mailto:ve7...@ve7jtb.com] *Sent:* Thursday, July 23, 2015 9:30 AM *To:* Justin Richer *Cc:* Mike Jones; oauth@ietf.org *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authentication Method Reference

[OAUTH-WG] Authentication Method Reference Values Specification

2015-07-22 Thread Mike Jones
Phil Hunt and I have posted a new draft that defines some values used with the amr (Authentication Methods References) claim and establishes a registry for Authentication Method Reference values. These values include commonly used authentication methods like pwd (password) and otp (one time