Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-17 Thread Breno
; OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23 So, Eran's first proposal:   A client application consisting of multiple components, each with its   own client type (e.g. a distributed client with both a confidential   server-based component

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-17 Thread Eran Hammer
Sakimura; OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 13:13, Eran Hammer e...@hueniverse.com wrote: Ok. That's much better than my guess that you wanted to drop all the registration text from the specification. What I'm looking

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-17 Thread Eran Hammer
] On Behalf Of Breno Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 8:50 AM To: Eran Hammer Cc: OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23 To summarize, I am weary of registration normative language that appears to disallow common practice implemented by servers

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-17 Thread Mike Jones
: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23 Mike, Nat, Does the new text work for you? EH -Original Message- From: breno.demedei...@gmail.com [mailto:breno.demedei...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Breno Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 12:10 PM To: Eran Hammer Cc: OAuth WG Subject

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-17 Thread Nat Sakimura
: Saturday, March 17, 2012 12:10 PM To: Eran Hammer Cc: OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23 That is much clearer. Thank you. On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 9:17 AM, Eran Hammer e...@hueniverse.com wrote: How about we phrase it the other way

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-17 Thread John Bradley
, March 17, 2012 12:10 PM To: Eran Hammer Cc: OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23 That is much clearer. Thank you. On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 9:17 AM, Eran Hammer e...@hueniverse.com wrote: How about we phrase it the other way: A clients may

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-15 Thread John Bradley
That seems to cover it. My problem is that client registration has been treated largely as being out of scope other than some general principals. We are now adding normative text, but still not specifying mechanisms. Nat's text allows existing practice with complex clients like Facebook with

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-15 Thread Eran Hammer
raised. EH From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Nat Sakimura Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 2:04 AM To: Breno de Medeiros; OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23 So, Eran's first proposal: A client application consisting

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-15 Thread Breno de Medeiros
] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23 ** ** ** ** So, Eran's first proposal: ** ** A client application consisting of multiple components, each with its own client type (e.g. a distributed client with both a confidential server-based component and a public browser-based

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-15 Thread Mike Jones
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 7:45 AM To: Nat Sakimura; Breno de Medeiros; OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23 This add-on is unnecessary. It already says the authorization server can handle it any way it wants. The fact that other registration options

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-15 Thread Eran Hammer
, 15 Mar 2012 09:56:13 -0700 To: Eran Hammer-Lahav e...@hueniverse.commailto:e...@hueniverse.com Cc: Nat Sakimura sakim...@gmail.commailto:sakim...@gmail.com, OAuth WG oauth@ietf.orgmailto:oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 07:45

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-15 Thread Breno de Medeiros
de Medeiros br...@google.com Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 09:56:13 -0700 To: Eran Hammer-Lahav e...@hueniverse.com Cc: Nat Sakimura sakim...@gmail.com, OAuth WG oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 07:45, Eran Hammer e

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-15 Thread Eran Hammer
: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23 So, Eran's first proposal: A client application consisting of multiple components, each with its own client type (e.g. a distributed client with both a confidential server-based component and a public browser-based component

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-15 Thread Breno de Medeiros
09:56:13 -0700 To: Eran Hammer-Lahav e...@hueniverse.com Cc: Nat Sakimura sakim...@gmail.com, OAuth WG oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 07:45, Eran Hammer e...@hueniverse.com wrote: This add-on is unnecessary

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-15 Thread Eran Hammer
on that we can come up with a clear solution. EH From: Breno de Medeiros br...@google.com Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 09:56:13 -0700 To: Eran Hammer-Lahav e...@hueniverse.com Cc: Nat Sakimura sakim...@gmail.com, OAuth WG oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-15 Thread Breno de Medeiros
...@hueniverse.com Cc: Nat Sakimura sakim...@gmail.com, OAuth WG oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 07:45, Eran Hammer e...@hueniverse.com wrote: This add-on is unnecessary. It already says the authorization server can handle it any way

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-15 Thread Eran Hammer
-Original Message- From: Breno de Medeiros [mailto:br...@google.com] Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 2:12 PM To: Eran Hammer Cc: Nat Sakimura; OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 13:13, Eran Hammer e...@hueniverse.com wrote

[OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-14 Thread Marius Scurtescu
Hi, Nat Sakimura started a thread on the OpenID Connect list about a breaking change introduced by rev 2.3 The paragraph in question is in section 2.1: A client application consisting of multiple components, each with its own client type (e.g. a distributed client with both a confidential

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-14 Thread Eran Hammer
: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 9:53 AM To: OAuth WG Cc: Breno de Medeiros Subject: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23 Hi, Nat Sakimura started a thread on the OpenID Connect list about a breaking change introduced by rev 2.3 The paragraph in question is in section 2.1

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-14 Thread Breno de Medeiros
-Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Marius Scurtescu Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 9:53 AM To: OAuth WG Cc: Breno de Medeiros Subject: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23 Hi, Nat Sakimura started

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-14 Thread Eran Hammer
Scurtescu; OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23 Can you explain to me why response_type is necessary at all after this change. If a javascript client (candidate for token usage) and the web server component (candidate for code usage) cannot share

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-14 Thread Marius Scurtescu
in your reading of the text. Hope this clarifies it. EH -Original Message- From: Breno de Medeiros [mailto:br...@google.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:16 AM To: Eran Hammer Cc: Marius Scurtescu; OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-14 Thread Eran Hammer
[mailto:mscurte...@google.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:24 AM To: Eran Hammer Cc: Breno de Medeiros; OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23 Before v23 a web server client could use either response_type=code or response_type=token, with the same client

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-14 Thread Mike Jones
, March 14, 2012 11:35 AM To: Marius Scurtescu Cc: Breno de Medeiros; OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23 You are not reading it correctly. This is a *registration* requirement, meaning, the client has to inform the server of the different components

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-14 Thread Eran Hammer
[mailto:michael.jo...@microsoft.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:42 AM To: Eran Hammer; Marius Scurtescu Cc: Breno de Medeiros; OAuth WG Subject: RE: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23 All of Marius, Breno, Nat, myself, and several others on the OpenID AB list have read

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-14 Thread Richer, Justin P.
Subject: RE: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23 All of Marius, Breno, Nat, myself, and several others on the OpenID AB list have read it this way. I believe that either this change needs to be removed (my preference!) or a sentence needs to be explicitly added that states

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-14 Thread Breno de Medeiros
on client type identification. EH -Original Message- From: Mike Jones [mailto:michael.jo...@microsoft.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:42 AM To: Eran Hammer; Marius Scurtescu Cc: Breno de Medeiros; OAuth WG Subject: RE: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-14 Thread Barry Leiba
I am sorry, but with this language this is a different spec with different compliance profiles and without supplying enough guidance for creating interoperable server implementations for common deployment models. As I read this thread, I see two things come out clearly: 1. Eran didn't intend

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-14 Thread Barry Leiba
Off list. Or not so much off list. He-he. b ___ OAuth mailing list OAuth@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth