Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2012-01-20 Thread Eran Hammer
...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Barry Leiba Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 10:56 AM To: oauth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base To close out this issue: There's disagreement about whether this proposed text is necessary, but no one thinks it's *bad*, and I see

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2012-01-20 Thread Barry Leiba
Added to section 1:   TLS Version          Whenever TLS is required by this specification, the appropriate version (or versions) of          TLS will vary over time, based on the widespread deployment and known security          vulnerabilities. At the time of this writing, TLS version

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2012-01-20 Thread Igor Faynberg
Since there is so much agreement and peace in the air, I would through a little editorial query: Would it not be better to say the appropriate version instead of this somewaht lawyerish version (or versions)? Igor On 1/20/2012 3:44 PM, Barry Leiba wrote: Added to section 1: TLS

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2011-12-18 Thread Barry Leiba
To close out this issue: There's disagreement about whether this proposed text is necessary, but no one thinks it's *bad*, and I see consensus to use it. Eran, please make the following change in two places in the base document: OLD The authorization server MUST support TLS 1.0 ([RFC2246]),

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2011-12-12 Thread Justin Richer
. *From:* Rob Richards rricha...@cdatazone.org *To:* Mike Jones michael.jo...@microsoft.com *Cc:* Barry Leiba barryle...@computer.org; oauth WG oauth@ietf.org *Sent:* Saturday, December 10, 2011 11:26 AM *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base I am fine with it Rob

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2011-12-11 Thread William Mills
Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base I am fine with it Rob On 12/9/11 1:30 PM, Mike Jones wrote: It looks to me like there is consensus for Barry's text (below).  Agreed?                 -- Mike NEW

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2011-12-10 Thread Rob Richards
. -Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Peter Saint-Andre Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 12:59 PM To: Stephen Farrell Cc: Barry Leiba; oauth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base On 12/1/11 1:57 PM

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2011-12-09 Thread Mike Jones
[mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Peter Saint-Andre Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 12:59 PM To: Stephen Farrell Cc: Barry Leiba; oauth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base On 12/1/11 1:57 PM, Stephen Farrell wrote: On 12/01/2011 08:10 PM, Peter Saint

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2011-12-09 Thread Stephen Farrell
, December 01, 2011 12:59 PM To: Stephen Farrell Cc: Barry Leiba; oauth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base On 12/1/11 1:57 PM, Stephen Farrell wrote: On 12/01/2011 08:10 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On 12/1/11 1:09 PM, Rob Richards wrote: On 11/28/11 10:39 PM

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2011-12-05 Thread Zeltsan, Zachary (Zachary)
: Thursday, December 01, 2011 3:57 PM To: Peter Saint-Andre Cc: Barry Leiba; oauth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base On 12/01/2011 08:10 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On 12/1/11 1:09 PM, Rob Richards wrote: On 11/28/11 10:39 PM, Barry Leiba wrote: The OAuth base

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2011-12-01 Thread Rob Richards
On 11/28/11 10:39 PM, Barry Leiba wrote: The OAuth base doc refers in two places to TLS versions (with the same text in both places: OLD The authorization server MUST support TLS 1.0 ([RFC2246]), SHOULD support TLS 1.2 ([RFC5246]) and its future replacements, and MAY support additional

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2011-12-01 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 12/1/11 1:09 PM, Rob Richards wrote: On 11/28/11 10:39 PM, Barry Leiba wrote: The OAuth base doc refers in two places to TLS versions (with the same text in both places: OLD The authorization server MUST support TLS 1.0 ([RFC2246]), SHOULD support TLS 1.2 ([RFC5246]) and its future

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2011-12-01 Thread Stephen Farrell
On 12/01/2011 08:10 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On 12/1/11 1:09 PM, Rob Richards wrote: On 11/28/11 10:39 PM, Barry Leiba wrote: The OAuth base doc refers in two places to TLS versions (with the same text in both places: OLD The authorization server MUST support TLS 1.0 ([RFC2246]), SHOULD

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2011-12-01 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 12/1/11 1:57 PM, Stephen Farrell wrote: On 12/01/2011 08:10 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On 12/1/11 1:09 PM, Rob Richards wrote: On 11/28/11 10:39 PM, Barry Leiba wrote: The OAuth base doc refers in two places to TLS versions (with the same text in both places: OLD The authorization

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2011-11-28 Thread Barry Leiba
The OAuth base doc refers in two places to TLS versions (with the same text in both places: OLD The authorization server MUST support TLS 1.0 ([RFC2246]), SHOULD support TLS 1.2 ([RFC5246]) and its future replacements, and MAY support additional transport-layer mechanisms meeting its

[OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2011-11-17 Thread Barry Leiba
The OAuth base doc refers in two places to TLS versions (with the same text in both places: OLD The authorization server MUST support TLS 1.0 ([RFC2246]), SHOULD support TLS 1.2 ([RFC5246]) and its future replacements, and MAY support additional transport-layer mechanisms meeting its security

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2011-11-17 Thread Rob Richards
Please refer to this thread about the problem with requiring anything more than TLS 1.0 http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/oauth/current/msg07234.html You will end up with a spec that virtually no one can implement and be in conformance with. I still have yet to find an implementation out in

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2011-11-17 Thread Anthony Nadalin
: oauth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base Please refer to this thread about the problem with requiring anything more than TLS 1.0 http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/oauth/current/msg07234.html You will end up with a spec that virtually no one can implement

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2011-11-17 Thread Barry Leiba
Please refer to this thread about the problem with requiring anything more than TLS 1.0 http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/oauth/current/msg07234.html You will end up with a spec that virtually no one can implement and be in conformance with. I still have yet to find an implementation out

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2011-11-17 Thread Anthony Nadalin
Cc: oauth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base Please refer to this thread about the problem with requiring anything more than TLS 1.0 http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/oauth/current/msg07234.html You will end up with a spec that virtually no one can

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2011-11-17 Thread Rob Richards
I'm saying that it's very difficult for someone to implement an AS that implements TLS 1.2. TLS 1.2 is not supported in the a good number of systems people deploy on. For example, the use of Apache and OpenSSL accounts for a good number of web servers out there. The only way to deploy a

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2011-11-17 Thread Justin Richer
Agree with Rob here. Also, from an application and service developer's perspective, the check for TLS compliance is going to go something like this: 1) Does that url start with https? 2) If yes, I'm compliant! 3) If no, make the url start with https 4) Done! Which will put us in exactly the

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2011-11-17 Thread Phil Hunt
Are there any features of TLS 1.2 that are specifically needed for OAuth2? Can you identify a technical reason other then 'we gotta move the market forward'? Given past history in the WG where having any transport security was contentious, I suspect there would be significant objection to 1.2.