[obrolan-bandar] Re: TINS naiknya berat

2008-04-29 Terurut Topik Vic
crystal clear pak. mencerahkan sekali. dari data di web bei itu, fm asing pegang 15 %, govt ri pegang 65 %, fm lokal 13%, sisanya ritel (atau "ritel") --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Angelo Ferdinand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Halo Pak Sulis, > *ONLY FOR INVESTOR*: Sebuah urun saran

[obrolan-bandar] Re: MINGGU KELABU DI MARKET BEI

2008-04-28 Terurut Topik Vic
money ain't got no brother. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "kang_ocoy_maen_saham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Damai tho, yg penting braderhud!!! > > > > > Semua adalah kabeh > Kabeh adalah konco > Konco adalah teman. > > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei wrote:

[obrolan-bandar] Utk apak TBUMI...Re: INFLASI TANAH AIR TEMBUS 9%

2008-04-27 Terurut Topik Vic
whatever lah. yg ditunggu merahnya, bukan nato. your reputation at stake now (if there is any). --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "t_bumi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Vic" > wrote: > > > > mana mera

[obrolan-bandar] Utk apak TBUMI...Re: INFLASI TANAH AIR TEMBUS 9%

2008-04-27 Terurut Topik Vic
mana merahnnnya ?? koq cuma seupil hehehe. jgn omdo donk. di sini juga udah nunggu pasukan elit cabe rawit. pake senjata ember besar hehehe. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "t_bumi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > SIP : TBUMI > Baru sepertiga batalyon pasukan yg berpangkat sertu diki

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Sector switching perlahan mulai terjadi

2008-04-27 Terurut Topik Vic
aord open plus 1,3 %. bhp open plus > 10 %. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jos_martino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Saya pernah bilang bahwa dalam bear rally seperti saat ini maka > sector switch akan terjadi di bottomnya, hanya saja "sebagian" > investor sudah percaya sekarang su

[obrolan-bandar] BI rate naik, laba bank naik? Re: [!! SPAM] RE: Balasan: Re: Balasan: [obrolan-

2008-04-27 Terurut Topik Vic
crude oil naik, bi rate mungkin naik krn inflasi. tapi komoditas juga naik. tempat bermain bandar makin sempit krn inflasi. pilihan cuma ada di tambang n agri. bank mungkin masih bisa, sk bunga dana valas 1q turun. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote

KUMPULAN POSTING HMIN SOAL TINS (+BUMN) Re: [obrolan-bandar] Lagi berita Timah b

2008-04-27 Terurut Topik Vic
pasif dulu aja sementara, sambil pilih2 saham tenbaggers. btw, tolong donk tins di short, ada yg pingin punya di < 25000. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Halim Mintareja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ok deh... > > Saatnya hmin undur diri. > > Good bye all > > Ada yang gak suka deng

KUMPULAN POSTING HMIN SOAL TINS (+BUMN) Re: [obrolan-bandar] Lagi berita Timah b

2008-04-27 Terurut Topik Vic
never expect life to be fair. never expect market to be fair. welcome to the jungle man. it's survival of the fittest. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear All, > > > > Pak HMin bukan apa2 dan bukan siapa2 buat saya. > > Tapi saya merasa email2 terakhi

KUMPULAN POSTING HMIN SOAL TINS (+BUMN) Re: [obrolan-bandar] Lagi berita Timah b

2008-04-27 Terurut Topik Vic
kalau sering salah jadiin contrarian indicator aja hehehe. di sini kan banyak orang baru. mereka kan mikirnya yg senior2 pasti selalu bener n super tajir. wajar donk asumsinya. atau yg senior belum tentu super rich hehehe? udah lama main saham koq belum kaya juga. kacian deh hehehe. --- In obro

KUMPULAN POSTING HMIN SOAL TINS (+BUMN) Re: [obrolan-bandar] Lagi berita Timah b

2008-04-27 Terurut Topik Vic
- excellent posting - hmin itu campur aduk. hitungan fundamental, tapi actionnya trader. hitungan fundamentalnya juga kadang2 kecampur sama sentimen pasar/personal. - kalau mau info fundamental, baca aja kiriman2 james liem dari analis2 sekuritas. dibandingin aja beberapa riset, ambil rata2nya. di

[obrolan-bandar] Re: TO ELAINE?

2008-04-24 Terurut Topik Vic
udah terbukti sebagai lady bear. tapi buktikan dulu sebagai lady bull hehehe. nanti kita ngikut deh. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > *Do you wanna go bearish forever? come on... you have three days to BOW, or > you can say good bye to cheap stocks, bu

[obrolan-bandar] Re: FW: CIMB GK : TINS

2008-04-24 Terurut Topik Vic
pake perbandingan margin aja : q // harga jual/ton // biaya prod/ton // margin/ton -- 1q2007 // 12635 // 8876 // 3759 2q2007 // 14234 // 9021 // 5213 3q2007 // 14905 // 1 // 4905 4q2007 // 16391 // 9976 // 6415 1q2008 // 17133 // 9258 //

[obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] Tips

2008-04-24 Terurut Topik Vic
c7. jgn full force kalau gak yakin 100 % bull. kalau mau long-term belinya bertahap. sedia ember sebelum hujan hehehe. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Jack Cowok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > P. Susanto > > Maaf saya ganti subject nya. Gak enak pake ID saya. > > Mungkin ini

[obrolan-bandar] Re: FW: CIMB GK : TINS

2008-04-24 Terurut Topik Vic
para investor bisa keluarin ember2 hehehe. 30 april fed funds rate turun, harga komoditas naik. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "abank_saham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Harga timah terkoreksi. Take profit is not a sin :-) > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Angelo Ferdinand"

[obrolan-bandar] Re: FW: CIMB GK : TINS

2008-04-23 Terurut Topik Vic
proyeksi eps 4000, asumsi harga jual rata2 16800. padahal sekarang rata2 timah udah 18700. so, dari itungan fundamental, eps 2008 mungkin >> 4000.

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Fwd: Tin in the News

2008-04-23 Terurut Topik Vic
3 mo nickel bid di 50995/mt tgl 8 mei 2007. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ingat kejadian nickel waktu itu? Naik terus...inventory berkurang terus...harga dikabarkan akan naik pesat menuju $5/MT...alhasil? hehehe...nothing goes up forever. > >

[obrolan-bandar] Re: KLTM siang ini : Tin Naik ke 24.450

2008-04-23 Terurut Topik Vic
biasanya harga di kltm < lme, soalnya ada biaya freight n insurance. sekarang emang harga timah udah naik banyak, buat trader emang mungkin udah cukup buat pt. tapi kalau fed nurunin bunga, komoditas biasanya akan naik. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Angelo Ferdinand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Possible DISTRIBUTION tomorrow

2008-04-23 Terurut Topik Vic
kenapa distribusi sekarang ? gak nunggu fed turunin suku bunga ? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Tepat sekali Mbah, saya harap newbie yg beneran newbie (kayak saya, bukan org2 pintar yg ngakunya newbie) bisa mengikuti nasihat Mbah ini yg bisa menghindari

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Ohh ...Si A Tin = 24250 :-)

2008-04-23 Terurut Topik Vic
long-term bagus sih. cuma hati2 aja koreksi jk pendek. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Sumitomo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Emang Bagus nih si A Tin > Kemaren :22450 > sekarang :24250 + 1.675 > > Bid Offer > SN 3M $24050 $24250 > > Mulai-nyolder.com :-) > >

[obrolan-bandar] Re: BBM NAIK 50%

2008-04-23 Terurut Topik Vic
ternyata masa kampanye buat pemilu 2009 udah dimulai 8 juli 2008. pemilu, pemilu hehehe. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Wawan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Naik 50% kok kayaknya gak mungkin ya Pak? Ini sama aja bunuh diri. > > _ > > From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mail

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Persiapan Peluncuran Roket

2008-04-23 Terurut Topik Vic
harus ada backup plan kalau2 roket meledug hehehe, jangan lupa bawa ember. masih banyak kan embernya ? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, q q <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > O !!! > > Para Penumpang Sekalian Harap Kencangkan Sabuk Pengaman Anda... > Karena Besok Pagi... (

[obrolan-bandar] Re: TIN : Sempra Pre-Morning Session +425

2008-04-23 Terurut Topik Vic
cuma sempra pak. CNBC juga ampe klenger, sampai ticker tin udah ilang > tuh. Komputernya hang, naiknya gak kira2 > > 2008/4/23 Vic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > barusan gw liat di sempra : > > SN 3M 23200/223400 +100825 > > harga offernya kelebihan 1 digit

[obrolan-bandar] Re: TIN : Sempra Pre-Morning Session +425

2008-04-23 Terurut Topik Vic
barusan gw liat di sempra : SN 3M 23200/223400 +100825 harga offernya kelebihan 1 digit. ini sistemnya hang krn harga timah naik terus hehehe. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Angelo Ferdinand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > SN 3M2280023000 +425 >

[obrolan-bandar] Oh MG!! TIN +250 Re: LME LATEST - Tin moves near record highs again, LME invento

2008-04-22 Terurut Topik Vic
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "agoes_htm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Karena yang kita beli itu adalah saham bukan komoditas nya. Kalo pak > Angelo mau beli komoditas, yah gpp. > > Stock and commodities adalah 2 hal yang berbeda, meskipun commodities > stocks akan sedikit terpenga

[obrolan-bandar] Oh MG!! TIN +450 Re: LME LATEST - Tin moves near record highs again, LME invento

2008-04-22 Terurut Topik Vic
SN 3M 22500/22700 +950 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Angelo Ferdinand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > SN 3M +450.5 > > 2008/4/22 Angelo Ferdinand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > hmm, benar sih pak, berhubung tins mungkin gak ada di trading commodities > > indonesia, ya mau gak mau beli s

[obrolan-bandar] Re: TINS fans

2008-04-21 Terurut Topik Vic
Antaike forecasts 10% growth in China's tin consumption Release date: 21 Apr 2008 China's refined tin usage is forecast to rise by 10.4% from 132,300 tonnes in 2007 to 146,000 tonnes this year, according to the country's leading non-ferrous metals research organisation, Antaike. In a presentation

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Analisa DE: Welcome bear (again)

2008-04-21 Terurut Topik Vic
harga bbm takkan naik (investor daily). --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "James Arifin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > makanya saya dukung pemerintah stop program buang2 duit dengan subsidi > BBM, wong yang kebanyakan menikmati tuh yah kalangan menengah ke atas, > wong harga mobil sudah be

[obrolan-bandar] Re: BEI Morning Lineup - April 21

2008-04-20 Terurut Topik Vic
di australia, bhp naik 8,04 %, rio naik 2,17 %. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "yokorusi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > US Factors > Bursa di US ditutup positive pada Jumat kemarin setelah laporan dari > beberapa perusahaan besar seperti Intel, JP Morgan, Caterpillar, > Google dan Co

[obrolan-bandar] Re: If you want to realize your profit, today'd be the day..

2008-04-20 Terurut Topik Vic
mungkin timing aja yg perlu diwaspadai. triggernya mungkin harga bbm dlm negeri naik. tapi sekarang pasar kan nunggu fed rate turun di 30 apr. mungkin juni nanti fed stop turunin bunga. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > *If you want to sell when there ar

[obrolan-bandar] Re: DOW FUT +104

2008-04-20 Terurut Topik Vic
c7. regional open plus. nikkei naik 1,88 %, aord naik 2,14 %. bhp naik 8 % ?? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Kidod25" wrote: > > > > tolong di cek, mungkin saya salah... tq > > > > Anda bener, di CN

[obrolan-bandar] Re: TIMAH 21.550 / Ton

2008-04-17 Terurut Topik Vic
mundak maning euy. SN 3M 21600/21750. makin gak kekejar dah tins. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Sumitomo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Current Sempra prices: > > Bid Offer > SN 3M $21350 $21550 > > Cuan Bareng .. : ) Mau? >

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Bearish Messengers, Mana Nih?

2008-04-16 Terurut Topik Vic
gak mungkin kang ocoy sedih. fm pasti udah punya contingency plan kalau market drop --> buy some more on the cheap. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > *Value Investor jangan sedih. Come closer, gimme a hug so you'll feel > better...* > > ** > > *.. you

[obrolan-bandar] Re: HARGA MINYAK AKAN TURUN

2008-04-16 Terurut Topik Vic
kalau crude oil > 120, harga bbm dlm negeri naik, inflasi naik. tapi biasanya komiditas juga ikut naik. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Kidod25" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > menurut siklus bulanan harga minyak akan turunn > > http://www.oilnergy.com/1opost.htm > > kalau bisa tembus 1

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Hati-hati

2008-04-16 Terurut Topik Vic
yg masih bagus fa-nya bisa beli bertahap. itmg, aali, tins, sgro. (investor only). --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "kangduren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > beberapa saham kelihatannya masih bisa berlanjut penguatannya, mohon > komfirmasi TA, BA dan FA nya, hati2. > > salam

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Bearish Messengers, Mana Nih?

2008-04-15 Terurut Topik Vic
kalau minyak naik terus, rambo kuat gak hehehe. pemerintah bakal naikin bbm (premium) buat nurunin subsidi kalau crude oil > $ 120. waktu bbm naik di 2005 ihsg turun kira2 10 %. kalaupun bbm terpaksa naik, mudah2an naiknya after the fed tgl 30 april. asumsi bandar deket inner circle, kalau bbm mau

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Sunami minggu depan !! Beware

2008-04-15 Terurut Topik Vic
timah di sempra : 21125/21400. tapi ember belum penuh nih. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Vic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ini jelmaan siapa lagi hehehe. > emang sih result q1 amrik bakalan jelek. pagi ini regional minus dalem > (sik asik asik). > my wa

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Beware tomorrow..

2008-04-15 Terurut Topik Vic
noted. i'll prepare my empty buckets then. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Bettina Tan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > .. >

[obrolan-bandar] Re: ITMG break out darvas

2008-04-15 Terurut Topik Vic
kalau pegang longterm juga bagus banget. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, freez z <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ayo siapa yang berani masuk itmg di saat ihsg di level kritis. > > between -00-00 and -99-99 >

[obrolan-bandar] Re: WATCH 4 !

2008-04-13 Terurut Topik Vic
1+8=9, makmur hehehe. tapi hots gombal banget nih. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "JsxTrader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ya..ya… 14+4 = 18.., angka bagus bukan? He..he… > > > > BTW, intraday looks good…, lupakan dulu nikkei…, smoga bertahan sampe sore… > > > > From: obrolan-ba

[obrolan-bandar] Re: HOTS mati

2008-04-13 Terurut Topik Vic
iya nih. gak boleh liat orang lain belanja. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Ally McProfit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > HOTS mati > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.ya

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Sunami minggu depan !! Beware

2008-04-13 Terurut Topik Vic
ini jelmaan siapa lagi hehehe. emang sih result q1 amrik bakalan jelek. pagi ini regional minus dalem (sik asik asik). my watch list for future porto: itmg, aali, sgro, tins. apa lagi ya ? mudah2an bisa cepet ngisinya. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Enigma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

[obrolan-bandar] Re: to Embah : Gile...milis OB bearish sekali

2008-04-13 Terurut Topik Vic
berarti udah banyak ritel yg pegang cash. kan ini self-fulfilling prophecy. kalau pada percaya ihsg ke 1800 ya mending pada jualan dulu, nanti buyback di 1800. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Halim Mintareja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Wow...ampun nih milis OB > > koq bearish sekali

[obrolan-bandar] Re: ANTM - Good News

2008-04-11 Terurut Topik Vic
mittal akan akuisisi 40% saham ks. holcim investasi rp. 4,6 t. (dari investor daily). businessmen lebih tahu prospek ekonomi dibanding trader. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rita Pardede <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > JAKARTA - Raja baja Lakshmi Narayan Mittal, yang merupakan orang

[obrolan-bandar] Re: PER TINS = 7,7 dan PER ANTM = 5,85

2008-04-06 Terurut Topik Vic
itu kan data 2007, udah lewat. eps tins 2008 katanya minimal 6000 hehehe. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Tadi pak Bayu bilang saat ini PER saham BEJ =15, nanti mau > beli kalo PERnya dibawah 10. > > Barusan embah check: > > PER TINS = 7,

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Reksadana.. Exit while you can

2008-04-06 Terurut Topik Vic
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Halim Mintareja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Coba lihat sekeliling anda..berapa banyak Fund-fund asing yang gulung tikar > ?? banyak hedge fund baru yg muncul. duit gak bisa dimusnahkan. > > Sekedar sharing aja > NAV 3 Jan 2008 34.6T > NAV 3 Apri

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Reksadana.. Exit while you can

2008-04-06 Terurut Topik Vic
ini baru bener. sifat dasar manusia susah berubah. greed n fear. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Adam Rajsha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ikutan Mbah aja ach... > > sangat2 manusiawi sekali bahwa orang2 yg udah pernah ngerasain untung > dibursa pasti akan terus stay di bursa, mereka n

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Peran BUMI diganti saham lain???

2008-04-03 Terurut Topik Vic
c7 mining n agri. strong fundamental. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Dean Earwicker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Iya 2200 adalah support long term. Mungkin tidak fixed, ada +/- 50 point > masih tolerable. Susah kalau TA kan art, bukan math. ARTINYA, kalau sudah > mendekati atau bereda

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Peran BUMI diganti saham lain???

2008-04-03 Terurut Topik Vic
yg perkiraan laba 2008 >> 2007 ya? bukan tril kan hehehe. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "James Arifin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > kelihatannya pada lagi lari ke T*** > > On 4/3/08, agoes_htm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Mbah, > > > > Dilihat dari performance BUMI tahun 2007,

[obrolan-bandar] Re: BESOK IHSG PASTI HIJAU

2008-04-03 Terurut Topik Vic
jgn ijo dulu deh. belum banyak belanja nih hehehe. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Aiko DeAndre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > KITA BUAT POOLING YUK, BESOK HARI JUMAT, 4 APRIL 2008 > > IHSG "HIJAU" ATAU "MERAH" ? > > > - Original Message > From: jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED

[obrolan-bandar] Re: BBCA vs BMRI

2008-04-03 Terurut Topik Vic
Bank Danamon Bagi Dividen Rp 208,4 http://www.detikfinance.com/index.php/detik.read/tahun/2008/bulan/04/tgl/03/time/132438/idnews/917767/idkanal/6 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "kang_ocoy_maen_saham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hehe.., Yaa Gatau jg pak yah.. Mandiri ajah nih yg re

[obrolan-bandar] Re: KOnbfirmasi : BUY

2008-04-03 Terurut Topik Vic
untung cuma kawin, one night stand only hehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "boyz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > kalo gitu, mari kita dandani rekan kita yg mau kawin sama kambing :) > > salam, > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Landlord" wrote: > > > > Kalau dilihat dar

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Bank Indonesia memutuskan untuk. menahan BI Rate di level 8%. - DETIKFINANCE

2008-04-02 Terurut Topik Vic
keluarin ember lagi. separo buat nampung, separo buat nyiduk hehehe. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Mudah mudahan USDIDR engga naik > > Detik ini dilevel 9235 > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Landlord" > wrote: > > >

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Belum ada PANIC SELLING

2008-04-02 Terurut Topik Vic
udah telanjur nampung, walau cuma 1 ember hehehe. (masih ada 99 ember yg kosong). good news buat balancing: - cadangan devisa indo naik 1,8 milyar dollar - bi rate diprediksi tetap (survey reuters) - sebentar lagi punya gub bank sentral yg kredibel (gak ngaruh ya ke market hehehe) (only god knows

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Prediksi si Oentoeng Salah

2008-04-02 Terurut Topik Vic
mungkin kali ini dibacanya kebalik. jadinya 2 hari turun, terus naik + 1000 point hehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "anton.hartono" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > saya pribadi lebih suka kepada pak oentoeng karena beliau sering > mengemukakan opininya ...dan slama ini si...lebi bany

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Plese help Information

2008-04-02 Terurut Topik Vic
harga rata2 14474, volume 58927 ton. sekarang harga rata2 timah q1 18000. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Selamat pagi semuanya, tolong kami diberitahu berapa > harga rata rata timah untuk penjualan TINS selama > tahun 2007? dan berapa volume penjualannya

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Prepare to BUY

2008-04-02 Terurut Topik Vic
dikocok2 bandar, apa memang banyak ritel yg rontok ?? jangan2 lagi pada nungguin di bawah pohon sambil megang cash 10 ember hehehe. ini reverse psychology atau apa ya ?. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, er1ck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 'p Hendrik, rasanya berat untuk sekarang index po

[obrolan-bandar] Re: DJI April fool ??

2008-04-01 Terurut Topik Vic
dow +3,19 %, nasdaq + 3,67 %. aord open + 2,38 %. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Sulistyo Winarto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Mbah, Oentoeng, Senior OB, newbie seneng DJI naik kenceng & doain agar modal bisa balik. Ternyata ada aja badnews yang buat grogi. Mohon pencerahannya...

[obrolan-bandar] Re: BUY RIGHT NOW!

2008-04-01 Terurut Topik Vic
tins. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, gdbrook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > brpt > > 2008/4/1 Elaine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > *Buy what? > > > > Elaine* > > > > 2008/4/1 Green Hot Chili <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > untuk yg udah cut-loss, BUY RIGHT NOW!, atau anda menyesal besok.

[obrolan-bandar] Re: BUY NOW (Beat EL, for IDX )

2008-04-01 Terurut Topik Vic
saham2 yg bagus fundamentalnya udah bounce back. ini memang soal gempa bumi hehehe inga2, abis report season pasti ada musim dividen. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, rudd haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Keliatan nya ketika Index turun, EL akan mamainkan peran nya, frekewnsi muncul aka

[obrolan-bandar] Re: hots

2008-04-01 Terurut Topik Vic
transfer pricing ?? bukankah bumi jualan lewat indocoal resources (cayman) ? kalau gak salah dulu malah ada skim transaksi khusus dgn indocoal, yaitu bumi jual sales receivable buat ambil pinjaman. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "kang_ocoy_maen_saham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > dipiki

[obrolan-bandar] Re: TINS...ada apa ya..naik deras

2008-03-30 Terurut Topik Vic
lapkeu 2007 tins kapan keluar ya ? di kontan n investor daily hari ini belum muncul. padahal hari ini bejibun lapkeu 2007 yg rata2 meningkat dibanding 2006. apa gara2 rumor laba 1,9 t ? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "hendrik_lwww" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > TINS mirip INCO sebelum

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Kiss Embah El.....

2008-03-27 Terurut Topik Vic
french kiss donk hehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > IHSG close +10... EL win the first round > > pak Boyz, > > Besok kalo IHSG -20, JANGAN makan jengkol yah, biar > engga terasa ... hehehe... > >

[obrolan-bandar] Re: TINS...ada apa ya..naik deras

2008-03-27 Terurut Topik Vic
warung sebelah ada sedia rumor katanye laba 2007 1,9 trilyun. rumor geto lo hehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "sulistyo_winarto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Pak Senior OB, newbie mo nanya ada apa TINS naik kenceng ? digoreng > ya ? sedang saham tambang lain belum naik... Saya

[obrolan-bandar] Re: [UBS Investment Research] PT ANTAM - Reaping the rewards of domestic policy.

2008-03-25 Terurut Topik Vic
tp 4500 dibungkus metode dcf canggih supaya gak ketahuan per 12,5 hehehe. pake per segitu inco bisa 13000 n tins bisa 65000 donk. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, James Liem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Reaping the rewards of domestic policy > �� Strong catalysts from value-added pro

[obrolan-bandar] Re: base metal naik ya ??

2008-03-25 Terurut Topik Vic
China exports slump, imports soar Release date: 25 Mar 2008 Official customs figures released on Monday show that China's refined tin exports fell by 99.8% year-on-year to only 3 tonnes in February. Meanwhile imports were up 173% to 1,176 tonnes. China's net trade position has been greatly change

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Indicator - 20080325

2008-03-24 Terurut Topik Vic
dow up 1,5 %, nasdaq up 3 %. aord yg mining-heavy open plus 3,2 %, bhp naik 2,6 %. be prudent, beli bertahap, remember money mgt. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "ALX™" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > *Kelihatan tunas-tunas muda bakal mulai bermunculan > mudah-mudahan pertanda kita akan me

[obrolan-bandar] Re:Seandainya IHSG = 2.000

2008-03-13 Terurut Topik Vic
timah 19700, batubara 130-140, cpo 3700. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Jhon Veter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Menurut saya : > > > > - BUMI : 4.500 > - TLKM : 8.000 > - ANTM: 2.500 > - TINS : 20.000 > - ASII

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Candle TINS Bullish Engulfing

2008-03-11 Terurut Topik Vic
c7. 40 ribu di depan mata. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Irawan Sudarman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > kalau ga salah: > > Candle TINS Bullish Engulfing. Time to Buy.. OR to Borong ? >

[obrolan-bandar] Re: TINS TP 35000 hampir tercapai

2008-03-05 Terurut Topik Vic
krn lapkeu 2007 belum keluar, coba2 asumsi margin labanya : 2007 : biaya produksi 1, harga jual 14500, margin laba = 4500. 2008 : biaya produksi 11000, harga jual 17000, margin laba = 6000. --> naik 33% kalau harga jual 18000 --> laba naik 55% kalau harga jual 19000 --> laba naik 78% --- In

[obrolan-bandar] Re: To EL - Elaine japri, bilang ke 2000 (!!!??) probabilitas %?

2008-03-03 Terurut Topik Vic
selama ini cuma sheer luck + mass psychology. kecuali kalau die bisa beneran bikin indeks ke 2000 hehehe (gw mau nampung) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "boyz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Nah, sama persis dengan saya, pak jsxtrader. > > makanya waktu itu saya pernah bilang "memangnya

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Nickel naik kuenceng pizan euy.... +7%, emas sentoh 990

2008-03-03 Terurut Topik Vic
SN 3M 18900 19000 +149.75 NI 3M 33200 33400 +1800 http://semprametals.com/Commodities.asp nickel huebat pisan euy --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > AFX UK Focus) 2008-03-03 14:49 GMT: > > Metals - Nickel rises over 5 pct on supply fears

[obrolan-bandar] MARKET SENTIMENT from Annual Report ....Re: Cash 200%

2008-02-29 Terurut Topik Vic
JAKARTA (Reuters) - PT International Nickel Indonesia INCO.JK said on Friday that net profit doubled last year as the firm was paid a higher average price for nickel and increased its total production. It said it expects its nickel output to increase 3 percent in 2008. Inco's net profit jumped to

[obrolan-bandar] Re: TINS nyundul

2008-02-29 Terurut Topik Vic
salut deh buat tins !! apa krn ada yg udah dapet bocoran lapkeu ? kalau lapkeu 2007 udah keluar baru bisa dihitung apa tins bisa ke 40 ribu, 50 ribu atau cuma 35 ribu. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Irawan Sudarman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > TINS break all new HIGH ! > ngikut apa e

[obrolan-bandar] Re: CNBC Asia Nikel, timah melemah sedikit

2008-02-26 Terurut Topik Vic
SN 3M 18000 18125 +112.75 http://semprametals.com/Commodities.asp mudah2an gw gak salah liat :p --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, TH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > CNBC Asia 10:14 pagi : Nikel 28100 (-50), Timah 17900 (-50), CPO 3871, Emas > 953 >

[obrolan-bandar] Re: TINS

2008-02-26 Terurut Topik Vic
@yahoogroups.com, "Vic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > bukannya ngomporin. cuma ngingetin polanya koq mirip kayak tahun lalu. > kalau kobatin turun produksinya wajar donk kalau stock di lme turun, n > otomatis harga tin naik. sore ini aja di semprametal udah 17350-17500. > kaya

[obrolan-bandar] Re: hati hati,, TINS kayaknya mau diguyur..

2008-02-26 Terurut Topik Vic
ih ditakuti. > kesempatan beli di bawah nih.. > > Pak Vic, apakah Bapak punya info Congo punya kontribusi berapa % dan kira2 > penghentian penambangannya berapa lama ? soalnya saya ga bisa akses > itri.co.uk > > > 2008/2/26 Vic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >

[obrolan-bandar] Re: hati hati,, TINS kayaknya mau diguyur..

2008-02-25 Terurut Topik Vic
lawanan dengan > hukum gravitasi. > saya juga masih bingung. mau ikut lagi tapi hari ini naiknya udah banyak. > > 2008/2/25 sulistyo_winarto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Pak Irawan & pak Vic, > > -Kapal timah TINS ditilang polisi (Kontan hari ini)..he2x ema

[obrolan-bandar] Re: hati hati,, TINS kayaknya mau diguyur..

2008-02-24 Terurut Topik Vic
kalau cari barang murah coba bikin riset kayak ml donk hehe. masa cuma pake feeling analysis hehehe. tapi bagus juga warningnya, dalam artian ritel jangan serakah. supaya selamat gak diguyur bd, kalau beli jangan kemaruk. beli aja bertahap, setiap tembus resist beli dikit2. --- In obrolan-banda

[obrolan-bandar] Re: TINS

2008-02-21 Terurut Topik Vic
ke 20 ribu. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "sulistyo_winarto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Pak Vic boleh juga ngomporin trus udah beli dikit dibawah. BESOK > nambah lagi.. UNTR & TLKM nggak mau turun "dalam" jadi nggak dapet dah. > Wah

[obrolan-bandar] Re: TINS

2008-02-20 Terurut Topik Vic
betul, ijin subkontraknya kobatin udah dicabut. artinya kobatin sekarang kesulitan cari bahan baku dan produksinya turun. udah keliatan di inventory lme yg turun terus, sekarang udah nembus kepala 10 ribu. kata dept esdm, kalau kobatin terbukti salah maka kontrak karyanya akan dicabut. ditutup aj

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Mohon info terbaru BUMI di Westside Corporation Ltd (Australia)

2008-02-17 Terurut Topik Vic
dari investor daily katanya bumi hampir pasti dapet herald ya. so good bye antm hehehe. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "sulistyo_winarto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks2 berat pak Cumi Goreng Tepung. Menurut saran Bapak gimana ? > Kalo si LG bilang TP-nya di 7.000 doang. Makanya

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Reksa Dana akan Kena Pajak Final

2008-02-13 Terurut Topik Vic
cuma 0,05 %. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "bernanke20551" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.detikfinance.com/index.php?url=http://www.detikfinance.com/ > index.php/detik.read/tahun/2008/bulan/02/tgl/13/time/160224/idnews/ > 893407/idkanal/6 >

[obrolan-bandar] Re: RETAIL SALES US MELEBIHI TAGET

2008-02-13 Terurut Topik Vic
dow plus 1,45 %. australia open udah plus 1,55 %. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "boyz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > kayaknya DJIA gak jadi ke 10.500 ... > not in near future ... > > ya khan, akang DE? > > salam, > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, > "hendrik_lwww" wrote

[obrolan-bandar] Re: TINS : Export timah Indonesia Jan 2008 3x lipat

2008-02-11 Terurut Topik Vic
menurut itri datanya simpang siur, data official cuma 3127 ton. http://www.itri.co.uk/pooled/articles/BF_NEWSART/view.asp?Q=BF_NEWSART_298918 tebak2an berapa split ratio n dividen tins ? split 1:5. dividen 1500. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Angelo Ferdinand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[obrolan-bandar] Re: FW: STOCK PICKS FOR MONDAY 11 FEB 08 --

2008-02-10 Terurut Topik Vic
1. ptba (apa gak jenuh orang2 main di bumi ?) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Landlord" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Per sekarang (BELUM FINAL), dari tips2 yang sudah masuk, berikut ini adalah > rekapan TOP FIVE STOCK PICKS FOR MONDAY, 11 FEB 08 > > > > 1.BUMI > 2.UNTR >

[obrolan-bandar] Re: ELSA tak secantik TRIL....

2008-02-07 Terurut Topik Vic
tril volumenya cuma 1/4 elsa. elsa lebih cantik donk. namanya ada bau2 indo hehe. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, rudd haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Kalau menbanding Tril dan Elsa, Tril saat IPO Idex emang lagi rally. ELSA IPO padasaat Gap Down, 65 point, tapi masih bisa bertahan >

[obrolan-bandar] Re: GOLDEN RAT, year of OPPORTUNITY... ...And THE WINNER IS ?.....

2008-02-05 Terurut Topik Vic
acha acha acha. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > INFO bagus pak Hendrik, ini namanya member yg OKE... > > Index India menunjukan KEPERKASAANYA melawan pengaruh DJI, > sayangnya Index China tutup... > > Coba kita liat TARIAN ULAR dari India

[obrolan-bandar] Re: ELNUSA a.k.a ELSA => Possible Right AR

2008-02-05 Terurut Topik Vic
biasanya setelah ipo, keluar berita2 bagus. misalnya ini : "Elnusa akan Terbitan Obligasi Hingga US$ 100 Juta" "Elnusa menargetkan laba bersih 2008 melonjak 80-90 persen dibanding tahun lalu. Jika pada 2007 laba bersihnya sekitar Rp 110 miliar (unaudited), maka tahun ini Elnusa berharap bisa mencap

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Dow abang kobong (baru 45 menitan buka)

2008-02-05 Terurut Topik Vic
dow minus 2,93%. australia open minus 2%. nikkei 2% ? ihsg 5% ? hehehe. nickel turun jadi 26850, timah turun jadi 16800. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, TH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > *Dow

[obrolan-bandar] Re: PT Timah bangun kapal keruk terbesar di dunia - TIMAH laba meningkat - STOCK

2008-02-05 Terurut Topik Vic
Tin, Lead 2008 Forecasts Raised by Barclays on China's Supplies By Claudia Carpenter Feb. 1 (Bloomberg) -- Barclays Capital raised its forecasts for tin and lead for 2008, citing supply constraints in China. Tin will average $16,838 a metric ton on the London Metal Exchange this year, up from an

[obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI 7500 ?

2008-02-04 Terurut Topik Vic
pake duit elnusa hehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Darien Lentini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > CC diawal sesi ke dua borong BUMI di harga 7000. 46461lot langsung ludes. > dan still accumulating. sampe saat ini belanja CC utk BUMI udah sampe 99482lot. > mmm hari ini CC definit

[obrolan-bandar] imlek (Re: riset 1feb08 kim eng, mandiri, OD)

2008-02-03 Terurut Topik Vic
riset kimeng bilang menjelang n setelah imlek ihsg naik terus, terbukti dari 2004 - 2007. siap2 dapet angpao. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, bobby gosal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > riset > > > > Bergabunglah dengan oran

[obrolan-bandar] Re: PIG: Penggaris GOCENG sebagai Line of Symmetry (INCO)

2008-02-03 Terurut Topik Vic
jadi target short term di 11500 nih ?? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Jimmy Gunawan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > mbah, sekali lagi banyak JALAN menuju roma... > dari oretan newbie saya ini ada 3 support lain yg mendukung titik rebound > tsb. > > JG > > > > - Original Message

[obrolan-bandar] Re: INCO TIBA - TIBA NGAMUK, SYANAG TADI UDA JUALAN DI 8100,

2008-02-03 Terurut Topik Vic
australia open plus hampir 3 %. bhp n rio tinto naik. hari ini harinya mining. gw jagoin inco n tins. antm udah jadi saham rakyat, berat man hehehe. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, TH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Krn enteng kalu berenti mendadak suka bikin penumpang jadi terpelanting ke

[obrolan-bandar] Re: INCO TIBA - TIBA NGAMUK, SYANAG TADI UDA JUALAN DI 8100,

2008-02-01 Terurut Topik Vic
nickel naik tajam. tapi timah juga, makanya tins juga naik. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Darien Lentini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > iya tuh, 15menit terakhir inco seperti lagi dikejar syeetan githu.. > sy yg lagi mempertimbangkan mau beli diharga 8150 atau mau tunggu turun dikit... >

[obrolan-bandar] Re: ANTM mengalahkan estimasi ML dan Citi

2008-01-31 Terurut Topik Vic
kira2 berapa pendapatan inco n tins ? bisa di atas estimasi juga donk. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Kidod25" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Pendapatan ANTM tahun 2007 sebesar Rp 11,9 t, mengalahkan estimasi ML > (Rp10,5t) dan Citi (Rp 10,8t). Ada yg bisa kasih masukan??? >

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Khayalan tingkat tinggi

2008-01-31 Terurut Topik Vic
australia open plus 2 %. bhp naik 2,9 %, zinifex (lead n zinc) naik 5,8 %. di sempra tin naik jadi 17000, nickel naik jadi 27700. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Dean Earwicker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > DOW merah, Europe berdarah, tapi DE lagi merapal mantra: > > "Khayalan tingk

[obrolan-bandar] Re: ML: ENRG Passing a trough in profitability (BUY, TP 1.800)

2008-01-29 Terurut Topik Vic
bisa jadi kuda hitam. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Joe Grunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 3Q07 results still weak, as expected > > ENRG reported 9M07 net profit of > around Rp85bn, a turnaround from the > Rp148bn loss in 9M06. Quarterly trend in > sales is still weak, with EBIT >

[obrolan-bandar] Re: VOLATILITAS INCO, ANTM DAN TINS

2008-01-29 Terurut Topik Vic
eration this morning. The company is not allowed to produce refined tin as evidence shows it has received tin ore from illegal mining," Djuhandani Raharjopuro, the head of Central Bangka police, told Reuters. ini berita baru atau lama ya ? tapi tglnya 29 jan ? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoo

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Jika the fed turunin 25-50basis point lagi... (thanx to bang Irwan Ariston)

2008-01-28 Terurut Topik Vic
masa pake option cuma 60 % hehehe. di bei aja beli bumi low 4350 (22 jan) jual kemarin hi 6600 dapet gain 51 %. harusnya option bisa 200 % donk hehehe. kan market minggu kemarin volatile banget. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > q3 baru kelihatan

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