Kalau kemaren memang short sell di 15500 hari ini anda sudah bisa untung 500
perak (harga terendah 14950). Ini semua bergantung kepada time-frame-nya.
Wong namanya juga shorting, time frame jarang panjang-panjang. Hitung-hitung
different perspective saja lah. Toh memang lebih mudah untuk
Thank you untuk sarannya pak James yang sebenarnya sudah dilakukan
yakni buy low sell high, dan buy balik kemudian, masih belum short
selling benaran. Kendalanya memang ada di sekuritas yang memberikan
fasilitas itu. Entah kenapa banyak sekuritas masih belum memberikan
fasilitas demikian.
nice one vic..
hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehethis milist is getting funier and
absurd..
Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hahahahahahahahahhahah
ikan cere mau ngelawan ikan paus hahahah
kalo jualan barang sendiri itu bukan ngeshort donk, itu tp. namanya
juga short sell, jualan
Ini hitung-hitungan ANTM dan alasan kenapa saya bilang short sell di level2
tertentu, data historical untuk menentukan target berdasarkan data sebelum
kenaikan:
High 14250
Low 13800
Delta = 450 (9point)
Target 1 = 1.618* 450 = 730 + 13800 = 14530 (accomplished)
Target 2 = 2.618* 450 = 1180 +
ada yang di millis cuman komentar doank tanpa kasih sesuatu yang berguna
(tullisannya kebanyakan mencela orang) , kalau p. james seringkali
posting-nya menambah skill saya dalam trading saham (tanpa bermaksud
memihak).
coba posting lebih bijak dan kalu anda emang jago, coba trading plan dan
Sekarang apakah ada yang berani rekomend BUY untuk ANTM di level sekarang?
Kalau ada, memang
On 4/11/07, Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ada yang di millis cuman komentar doank tanpa kasih sesuatu yang
berguna (tullisannya kebanyakan mencela orang) , kalau p. james seringkali
jadi kapan nih rekomend BUY nya, saya tunggu lho.. heheee
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:06:38 +0700, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Sekarang apakah ada yang berani rekomend BUY untuk ANTM di level
sekarang?
Kalau ada, memang
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On 4/11/07, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
nice one vic..
hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehethis milist is getting funier and
absurd..
*Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:
hahahahahahahahahhahah
ikan cere mau ngelawan ikan paus hahahah
kalo jualan barang
Kalau bagian ini kasih ke boss VIC ama pemain besar aja .. hehehh .. pemain
kroco seperti saya minggir aja ... hehehe .. Bozz memang hebat berani lewati
perbatasan, sayang kehabisan amunisi ... vic ama pemain besar harusnya bisa
nolongin biar tutupnya di atas 15500 -15700 biar level berikutnya ke
Wah udah mulai rebound pak, gile bener gerakannya volatile sekali. Jadi
inget TINS dulu :-P
On 4/11/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kalau bagian ini kasih ke boss VIC ama pemain besar aja .. hehehh ..
pemain kroco seperti saya minggir aja ... hehehe .. Bozz memang hebat berani
kalau Bozz berani narik ANTM ke level 685% FIBO tanpa ada koreksi, maka
memang anda benar2 akan buat history di dunia persahaman dan akan masuk
sebagai salah satu stock yang bisa lari hingga menembus level 423%
On 4/11/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ini hitung-hitungan ANTM dan
it's wrong answerthe nature of the question is how can u short something
for one month? come on...don't get it too personalif you can inform us
the best broking that can give us one month...i think even lehman in the u.s.
will become your customer.
cheers
James Arifin
kayaknya bisa, khan ada pemain besar sama vic yang mau dorong truzz sambil
buang barang. sekarang lagi bingung mau buang kalau ndak ada yang nampung.
ayooo beli. kata si bozz gue cape nich dorong truz hee. peace
On 4/11/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
kalau Bozz berani
tadi saya sempet jual ANTM di 15 850 sekarang antri lagi di 15 rb
dapet ga ya klo ga ya besok sajahe bukan short lho
ya tp PT
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, James Arifin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sekarang apakah ada yang berani rekomend BUY untuk ANTM di level
hehee koq ditawar terus sih.. kemaren 12rb short, 14rb short, 15500 pun jg
short, skr dinaekin lagi..
coba kemaren dari 12rb long.. udah hemat brp kali fee tuh pak?
kl nanti ternyata tutup di 15700 spt yg sampeyan bilang, apakah itu
termasuk kategori april mop?
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:41:48
bang, sudah biasa rugi kok ... kalau semua long khan nggak ada yang supply
barang
On 4/11/07, Odink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hehee koq ditawar terus sih.. kemaren 12rb short, 14rb short, 15500 pun jg
short, skr dinaekin lagi..
coba kemaren dari 12rb long.. udah hemat brp kali fee tuh pak?
kl
hu ha ha ha ha ha
i think he cant answer ...
peace aja dahh
On 4/11/07, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
it's wrong answerthe nature of the question is how can u short
something for one month? come on...don't get it too personalif you
can inform us the best broking
Saya dukung dan supply trus..(Take Profit)
Tapi bukan Naked Short Selling Om, salah salah bisa melarikan diri
spt Leo
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, James Arifin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
bang, sudah biasa rugi kok ... kalau semua long khan nggak ada yang
supply
barang
On
sudah ach nggak mau comment lagi, c spasi d cape dech. lebih baik baca buku
dave landry on swing trading
lebih bermanfaat sambil lihat-lihat peluang
peace
salam cuan
On 4/11/07, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
pathetic.
*Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:
kayaknya
@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Short Sell
it's wrong answerthe nature of the question is how can u short something
for one month? come on...don't get it too personalif you can inform us
the best broking that can give us
Back to basic saja pak:
The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent. - J.M. Keynes
- Original Message
From: Odink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 2:52:01 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Short Sell
hehee koq
...he
- Original Message -
From: Frederick Schubert
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Short Sell
it's wrong answerthe nature of the question is how can u short
something
Short CPDA... TP 25
(Ca Pe De Ah)
- Original Message
From: Eddy S. Purnomo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 3:09:21 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Short Sell
Boleh donk ! Why not ? kalau yang
/buyback juga boleh. You should try
that Mr. FS, short barang sendiri hue..he..he...he
- Original Message -
*From:* Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, April 11, 2007 2:45 PM
*Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Short Sell
it's
he..he..he Betul juga ya...
- Original Message -
From: Knight
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Short Sell
celupin slimming tea aja biar agak short tuhh barang
kalo mo dibikin long .. bawa
Long + short = mothing
- Original Message
From: Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 2:58:21 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Short Sell
pathetic .
Andri Wijaya andri.wijaya@ gmail.com wrote:
kayaknya bisa
walah ini milist udah beberapa hari bicaranya short terus
payah. Tjape bacanya dech
kalo bisa jangan dibahas lagi deh, ganti topik.
Bull.S*it koq dibahas terus ya. tambah gede balonnya
Emang pinter projecting target price dengan yakinnya harga bakal sampe ke
sekian
me too guys
On 4/11/07, Budi K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
walah ini milist udah beberapa hari bicaranya short terus
payah. Tjape bacanya dech
kalo bisa jangan dibahas lagi deh, ganti topik.
Bull.S*it koq dibahas terus ya. tambah gede balonnya
Emang pinter projecting target price
setuju!
cuape deh!
kalo Bapepam nglongok niy postingan bisa DOT deh...!
---Original Message---
From: Budi K
Date: 4/11/2007 4:28:48 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: short- sell please stop
walah ini milist udah beberapa hari
kalo ada topik short sell jangan dibaca pak.
Meminjam kata Pak Gusdur Gitu aja ko repot
wakakakakaka
- Original Message -
From: Budi K
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 4:23 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: short- sell please stop
walah
My opinion ( tanpa bermaksud berpihak sama sekali ) hanya supaya seimbang
aja hehehe ...
Banyak kritikus yang pura - pura pemain besar but nothing at all
hehehehe ..
cuma bisa kritik tapi tidak pernah memberikan pengetahuan di milis ini
giliran ada yang memberikan ilmu / pengetahuan langsung
: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
mr.bearish_forever
Sent: 11 April 2007 12:35
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Short Sell
Oh... gitu toh.
Salah istilah..
Jadi Take Profit selama sebulan. Jualnya kecil kecil setiap hari..
(maaf ikan
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: short- sell please stop
kalo ada topik short sell jangan dibaca pak.
Meminjam kata Pak Gusdur Gitu aja ko repot
wakakakakaka
- Original Message -
From: Budi K mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar
] On Behalf Of Josia
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 4:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: short- sell please stop
kalo ada topik short sell jangan dibaca pak.
Meminjam kata Pak Gusdur Gitu aja ko repot
wakakakakaka
- Original Message
Terima kasih untuk rekomendasi short selling yang disampaikan pak
James. Kalau saja banyak dari kita-kita ini bisa menjalankan
rekomendasi tersebut dalam prakteknya. Namun apa daya, fasilitas
untuk short selling tak punya. Yang menjadi kendala bagi sebagian
kita-kita ini (saya :-)adalah
Just remember:
Bulls make money, Bears make money, Pigs just get slaughtered
another one:
Never short sell on valuations!! Do not short sell just because you think
the price of such a security is too high, based on valuation. Stocks that are
expensive tends to get more expensive,
More realistic ..:)
On 4/10/07, Mr. T [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just remember:
Bulls make money, Bears make money, Pigs just get slaughtered
another one:
Never short sell on valuations!! Do not short sell just because you
think the price of such a security is too high, based on valuation.
hhehehe ... absolutely agreed but if you believe wave counting then there is
time for correction and do you want to dive with the correction wave or do
you want to ride it? It's your choice
On 4/10/07, Mr. T [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just remember:
Bulls make money, Bears make money, Pigs
Kebanyakan orang berharap bisa belajar short sell dengan barang orang, untuk
latihan saya sarankan latihan dulu short sell dengan barang sendiri,
kemudian setelah emosi dan mental anda stabil baru cari sekuritas yang bisa
short sell untuk short term (1 minggu s/d 1 bulan). Jangan terlalu buru2
just gimme the name of broking companies that can facilitate a one-month short
sell
desperately curioushehehehe
James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hhehehe ... absolutely agreed but if you believe wave counting then
there is time for correction and do you want to dive with
From: James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 7:33:15 AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Short Sell
hhehehe ... absolutely agreed but if you believe wave counting then
there is time for correction and do
I second that. follow this conversation closely yet no straight direction
seen, please info :)
On 4/11/07, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
just gimme the name of broking companies that can facilitate a one-month
short sell
desperately curioushehehehe
*James Arifin [EMAIL
Wow bisa bearish 1 bulan? Dimana tuh?
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Java Weka [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I second that. follow this conversation closely yet no straight
direction
seen, please info :)
On 4/11/07, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
just gimme the name
I think Mr. James has a trading company.., correct? :)
- Original Message -
From: Java Weka
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Short Sell
I second that. follow this conversation closely yet
If all of you join me to that broker then how I can short sell?
On 4/11/07, mr.bearish_forever [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wow bisa bearish 1 bulan? Dimana tuh?
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
Java Weka [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I second that. follow
really a fundamental person, so I only use technicals to time my
entry and exit of the market...
- Original Message
From: James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 7:33:15 AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Short Sell
hhehehe
You're big player should be already got such facilities ... hehehh ...
On 4/11/07, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
just gimme the name of broking companies that can facilitate a
one-month short sell
desperately curioushehehehe
*James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:
up to you sir, I am happy to take your argument ... cheers
On 4/11/07, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
heheheheheheheit's a thin border between bull and shit..
*James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:
If all of you join me to that broker then how I can short sell?
On
hellow..
im a small player...pemainkecil
i have not being a big player yet...
may i know the name of the company that can give such facilities? thank you
James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You're big player should be already got such facilities ... hehehh
...
On 4/11/07,
On 4/11/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kebanyakan orang berharap bisa belajar short sell dengan barang orang, untuk
latihan saya sarankan latihan dulu short sell dengan barang sendiri, kemudian
setelah emosi dan mental anda stabil baru cari sekuritas yang bisa short sell
untuk
BOZZ mau langgar semua pakem TA .. even fibo 426.4% ditembus, semoga bisa
kuat aja nahan terus2 di atas FIBO itu .. hehhehe ... semoga modal bozz
masih banyak yah
On 4/11/07, Rudi Har [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 4/11/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED]james.arifin%40gmail.com
wrote:
Gw bantu Short dgn barang sendiri...
Ayo Bozz kalo nekad kalahkan kita para shorter2 (regional merah
berdarah)
Hehehehe ^^ (80% harusnya market merah)
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, James Arifin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BOZZ mau langgar semua pakem TA .. even fibo 426.4% ditembus,
hahahahahahahahahhahah
ikan cere mau ngelawan ikan paus hahahah
kalo jualan barang sendiri itu bukan ngeshort donk, itu tp. namanya
juga short sell, jualan kagak punya barang.
banyak yg omdo ngeshort hahahaha
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rudi Har [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 4/11/07,
Merah berdarah? Ga salah tuh? Hangseng cuma minus 0.22%, Nikkei 0.11%, Cuma
new zealand yang agak gede (lah sejak kapan stok market sono bisa
mempengaruhi stok market di Indonesia). Sisanya, shang hai ijo 1.4%, AORD
0.08%, South korea 0.5%, negara tetangga 0.6%. Mana berdarahnya?
On 4/11/07,
Oh... gitu toh.
Salah istilah..
Jadi Take Profit selama sebulan. Jualnya kecil kecil setiap hari..
(maaf ikan teri, soalnya ikan cere ga ada)
Kalau spt ini sekuritas manapun bisa Om..
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
hahahahahahahahahhahah
ikan cere mau
P James..
Klo untuk ANTM saya ga berani deh karena harganya relatif tidak
pernah turun dan Vol besar sangat besar resikonya.
Sedangkan TINS dia dalam keadaan sideway dan vol relatif kecil dan
saya yakin harganya akan naik lagi, IHSG turun, banyak yang provit
taking bukan karena fundamental.
---bung james, short sell bisa satu bulan? tolong dong kasih
pencerahan, masih pemula neh kurang ngeh. caranya gimana.thanx
In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
one-month short sell? hehehehe
you must have a very strong relationship with pak
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