Kalau kemaren memang short sell di 15500 hari ini anda sudah bisa untung 500
perak (harga terendah 14950). Ini semua bergantung kepada time-frame-nya.
Wong namanya juga shorting, time frame jarang panjang-panjang. Hitung-hitung
different perspective saja lah. Toh memang lebih mudah untuk
nice one vic..
hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehethis milist is getting funier and
absurd..
Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hahahahahahahahahhahah
ikan cere mau ngelawan ikan paus hahahah
kalo jualan barang sendiri itu bukan ngeshort donk, itu tp. namanya
juga short sell, jualan
Ini hitung-hitungan ANTM dan alasan kenapa saya bilang short sell di level2
tertentu, data historical untuk menentukan target berdasarkan data sebelum
kenaikan:
High 14250
Low 13800
Delta = 450 (9point)
Target 1 = 1.618* 450 = 730 + 13800 = 14530 (accomplished)
Target 2 = 2.618* 450 = 1180 +
ada yang di millis cuman komentar doank tanpa kasih sesuatu yang berguna
(tullisannya kebanyakan mencela orang) , kalau p. james seringkali
posting-nya menambah skill saya dalam trading saham (tanpa bermaksud
memihak).
coba posting lebih bijak dan kalu anda emang jago, coba trading plan dan
Sekarang apakah ada yang berani rekomend BUY untuk ANTM di level sekarang?
Kalau ada, memang
On 4/11/07, Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ada yang di millis cuman komentar doank tanpa kasih sesuatu yang
berguna (tullisannya kebanyakan mencela orang) , kalau p. james seringkali
jadi kapan nih rekomend BUY nya, saya tunggu lho.. heheee
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:06:38 +0700, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Sekarang apakah ada yang berani rekomend BUY untuk ANTM di level
sekarang?
Kalau ada, memang
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* To visit your group on the web,
Short sell GBP 1.9790
On 4/11/07, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
nice one vic..
hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehethis milist is getting funier and
absurd..
*Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:
hahahahahahahahahhahah
ikan cere mau ngelawan ikan paus hahahah
kalo jualan barang
Kalau bagian ini kasih ke boss VIC ama pemain besar aja .. hehehh .. pemain
kroco seperti saya minggir aja ... hehehe .. Bozz memang hebat berani lewati
perbatasan, sayang kehabisan amunisi ... vic ama pemain besar harusnya bisa
nolongin biar tutupnya di atas 15500 -15700 biar level berikutnya ke
Wah udah mulai rebound pak, gile bener gerakannya volatile sekali. Jadi
inget TINS dulu :-P
On 4/11/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kalau bagian ini kasih ke boss VIC ama pemain besar aja .. hehehh ..
pemain kroco seperti saya minggir aja ... hehehe .. Bozz memang hebat berani
kalau Bozz berani narik ANTM ke level 685% FIBO tanpa ada koreksi, maka
memang anda benar2 akan buat history di dunia persahaman dan akan masuk
sebagai salah satu stock yang bisa lari hingga menembus level 423%
On 4/11/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ini hitung-hitungan ANTM dan
it's wrong answerthe nature of the question is how can u short something
for one month? come on...don't get it too personalif you can inform us
the best broking that can give us one month...i think even lehman in the u.s.
will become your customer.
cheers
James Arifin
kayaknya bisa, khan ada pemain besar sama vic yang mau dorong truzz sambil
buang barang. sekarang lagi bingung mau buang kalau ndak ada yang nampung.
ayooo beli. kata si bozz gue cape nich dorong truz hee. peace
On 4/11/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
kalau Bozz berani
hehee koq ditawar terus sih.. kemaren 12rb short, 14rb short, 15500 pun jg
short, skr dinaekin lagi..
coba kemaren dari 12rb long.. udah hemat brp kali fee tuh pak?
kl nanti ternyata tutup di 15700 spt yg sampeyan bilang, apakah itu
termasuk kategori april mop?
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:41:48
bang, sudah biasa rugi kok ... kalau semua long khan nggak ada yang supply
barang
On 4/11/07, Odink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hehee koq ditawar terus sih.. kemaren 12rb short, 14rb short, 15500 pun jg
short, skr dinaekin lagi..
coba kemaren dari 12rb long.. udah hemat brp kali fee tuh pak?
kl
hu ha ha ha ha ha
i think he cant answer ...
peace aja dahh
On 4/11/07, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
it's wrong answerthe nature of the question is how can u short
something for one month? come on...don't get it too personalif you
can inform us the best broking
sudah ach nggak mau comment lagi, c spasi d cape dech. lebih baik baca buku
dave landry on swing trading
lebih bermanfaat sambil lihat-lihat peluang
peace
salam cuan
On 4/11/07, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
pathetic.
*Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:
kayaknya
@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Short Sell
it's wrong answerthe nature of the question is how can u short something
for one month? come on...don't get it too personalif you can inform us
the best broking that can give us
Back to basic saja pak:
The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent. - J.M. Keynes
- Original Message
From: Odink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 2:52:01 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Short Sell
hehee koq
...he
- Original Message -
From: Frederick Schubert
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Short Sell
it's wrong answerthe nature of the question is how can u short
something
Short CPDA... TP 25
(Ca Pe De Ah)
- Original Message
From: Eddy S. Purnomo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 3:09:21 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Short Sell
Boleh donk ! Why not ? kalau yang
/buyback juga boleh. You should try
that Mr. FS, short barang sendiri hue..he..he...he
- Original Message -
*From:* Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, April 11, 2007 2:45 PM
*Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Short Sell
it's
he..he..he Betul juga ya...
- Original Message -
From: Knight
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Short Sell
celupin slimming tea aja biar agak short tuhh barang
kalo mo dibikin long .. bawa
Long + short = mothing
- Original Message
From: Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 2:58:21 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Short Sell
pathetic .
Andri Wijaya andri.wijaya@ gmail.com wrote:
kayaknya bisa
me too guys
On 4/11/07, Budi K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
walah ini milist udah beberapa hari bicaranya short terus
payah. Tjape bacanya dech
kalo bisa jangan dibahas lagi deh, ganti topik.
Bull.S*it koq dibahas terus ya. tambah gede balonnya
Emang pinter projecting target price
setuju!
cuape deh!
kalo Bapepam nglongok niy postingan bisa DOT deh...!
---Original Message---
From: Budi K
Date: 4/11/2007 4:28:48 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: short- sell please stop
walah ini milist udah beberapa hari
kalo ada topik short sell jangan dibaca pak.
Meminjam kata Pak Gusdur Gitu aja ko repot
wakakakakaka
- Original Message -
From: Budi K
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 4:23 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: short- sell please stop
walah
My opinion ( tanpa bermaksud berpihak sama sekali ) hanya supaya seimbang
aja hehehe ...
Banyak kritikus yang pura - pura pemain besar but nothing at all
hehehehe ..
cuma bisa kritik tapi tidak pernah memberikan pengetahuan di milis ini
giliran ada yang memberikan ilmu / pengetahuan langsung
Setahu saya – short sell (tapi bukan dlm pengertian ‘maennya
pendek2 atau singkat2’, ‘loh) itu ada 2 (dua) :
▪ Naked short-sell : Tanpa punya barang
▪ Coverage short-sell : Punya barang (sebag kecil/besar)
Regards,
Aria
-Original Message-
From:
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: short- sell please stop
kalo ada topik short sell jangan dibaca pak.
Meminjam kata Pak Gusdur Gitu aja ko repot
wakakakakaka
- Original Message -
From: Budi K mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar
Just remember:
Bulls make money, Bears make money, Pigs just get slaughtered
another one:
Never short sell on valuations!! Do not short sell just because you think
the price of such a security is too high, based on valuation. Stocks that are
expensive tends to get more expensive,
More realistic ..:)
On 4/10/07, Mr. T [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just remember:
Bulls make money, Bears make money, Pigs just get slaughtered
another one:
Never short sell on valuations!! Do not short sell just because you
think the price of such a security is too high, based on valuation.
hhehehe ... absolutely agreed but if you believe wave counting then there is
time for correction and do you want to dive with the correction wave or do
you want to ride it? It's your choice
On 4/10/07, Mr. T [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just remember:
Bulls make money, Bears make money, Pigs
Kebanyakan orang berharap bisa belajar short sell dengan barang orang, untuk
latihan saya sarankan latihan dulu short sell dengan barang sendiri,
kemudian setelah emosi dan mental anda stabil baru cari sekuritas yang bisa
short sell untuk short term (1 minggu s/d 1 bulan). Jangan terlalu buru2
just gimme the name of broking companies that can facilitate a one-month short
sell
desperately curioushehehehe
James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hhehehe ... absolutely agreed but if you believe wave counting then
there is time for correction and do you want to dive with
From: James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 7:33:15 AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Short Sell
hhehehe ... absolutely agreed but if you believe wave counting then
there is time for correction and do
I second that. follow this conversation closely yet no straight direction
seen, please info :)
On 4/11/07, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
just gimme the name of broking companies that can facilitate a one-month
short sell
desperately curioushehehehe
*James Arifin [EMAIL
I think Mr. James has a trading company.., correct? :)
- Original Message -
From: Java Weka
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Short Sell
I second that. follow this conversation closely yet
If all of you join me to that broker then how I can short sell?
On 4/11/07, mr.bearish_forever [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wow bisa bearish 1 bulan? Dimana tuh?
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
Java Weka [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I second that. follow
really a fundamental person, so I only use technicals to time my
entry and exit of the market...
- Original Message
From: James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 7:33:15 AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Short Sell
hhehehe
You're big player should be already got such facilities ... hehehh ...
On 4/11/07, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
just gimme the name of broking companies that can facilitate a
one-month short sell
desperately curioushehehehe
*James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:
up to you sir, I am happy to take your argument ... cheers
On 4/11/07, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
heheheheheheheit's a thin border between bull and shit..
*James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:
If all of you join me to that broker then how I can short sell?
On
hellow..
im a small player...pemainkecil
i have not being a big player yet...
may i know the name of the company that can give such facilities? thank you
James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You're big player should be already got such facilities ... hehehh
...
On 4/11/07,
On 4/11/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kebanyakan orang berharap bisa belajar short sell dengan barang orang, untuk
latihan saya sarankan latihan dulu short sell dengan barang sendiri, kemudian
setelah emosi dan mental anda stabil baru cari sekuritas yang bisa short sell
untuk
BOZZ mau langgar semua pakem TA .. even fibo 426.4% ditembus, semoga bisa
kuat aja nahan terus2 di atas FIBO itu .. hehhehe ... semoga modal bozz
masih banyak yah
On 4/11/07, Rudi Har [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 4/11/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED]james.arifin%40gmail.com
wrote:
Merah berdarah? Ga salah tuh? Hangseng cuma minus 0.22%, Nikkei 0.11%, Cuma
new zealand yang agak gede (lah sejak kapan stok market sono bisa
mempengaruhi stok market di Indonesia). Sisanya, shang hai ijo 1.4%, AORD
0.08%, South korea 0.5%, negara tetangga 0.6%. Mana berdarahnya?
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