[obrolan-bandar] bozz mohon petunjuk.

2006-04-06 Terurut Topik wallst33id
bozz mohon petunjuk untuk rekomendasi sesi 2 dan gimana kelanjutan
kabar MYOR? thank a lot









 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Kapan PTBA naik yah? Good news lambat naik!

2006-04-06 Terurut Topik oentoeng_q
Kalo Belum NAIK karena BELUM GILIRANNYA P. EKA.
SabaKarena BOZZ masih suka di FINANSIAL
ntar kalo MINING sudah jalan!? 
Saya selalu membaca ulasan Fundamental Anda.

Pesan BOZZ: IF TIME TO PLAY FOR PTBA BEGIN..BUY PTBA 2500IS 
NOT TOO LATE!!!

Silahkan Para Analis membuat FAIR VALUE-nya.

Kembali ngomong PTBA.KAMI yang merealisasikan PTBA-W dari Rp. 6-
13menjadi Rp. 1000,- LEBIH!!!
Menjadi SATU-SATU-nya WARRANT yang bisa di-EXCERSICE setelah KRISIS!

NB: Sekarang GEMBONG2-nya sedang NONGKRONG di BNGA-W,OK!?

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, EKA SUWANDANA [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Berita ttg pembangunan 3 PLTU sudah keluar di koran. Yg ukuran 
kecil saja akan menghabiskan 9 juta ton Batu Bara /tahun. Belum yg 
terbesar PLTU Mulut/muara tambang (kapasitas produksi sekarang 9 jt 
ton). 

   Belum rel kereta. Tapi flashback ANTM...saya juga nunggu sekitar 
2 tahun dari 2004 utk realisasi FENI III saja. 

   Udah keburu banyak ngumpulin PTBA lagi!!! ANy infos for PTBA?











 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Market move up again,Buy ANTM 4550,BBRI 4300,BBCA 4300, good luck

2006-04-06 Terurut Topik Deddy
UNTR 4700 break up gmna confirmasinya Pak Budi?

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Market move up again,Buy ANTM 4550,BBRI 4300,BBCA 4300, good luck

2006-04-06 Terurut Topik budi suryono



  saya nunggu consolidation phase dulu pak sebelum nentukan entry pointnya.rgdsDeddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   UNTR 4700 break up gmna confirmasinya Pak Budi?--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, budi suryono [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around  http://mail.yahoo.com
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG.........PENJELASAN..........Part 1

2006-04-06 Terurut Topik Hok One
Boz Oentoeng, saya bantu jawab  ya

Dalam Lq 45, 1 point = 500 rb rupiah. 1 lot = 4 juta rupiah. So kalau 4
point ya pasti gain +- 50%.
Lq 45 kurang liquid karena 1 hari biasanya cuma sekitar 40-50 lot. Yang
bikin sebel adalah harga bid dan offernya, kalau sudah ketahuan trend naik
maka spread bid offer sangat jauh.

Rgds
Hok1

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 Bung Oentoeng,
 boleh tahu kalo main LQ-45 sistemnya gimana kok bisa 4 point doank tp
 gainnya 50% ?
 kalo turun 4 point berarti loss 50% donk?
 apakah mainnya pake margin?
 trus mainnya di BEJ atau BES?

 JG


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 Tahap pertama perhitungan GAIN LOSS aja..

 IHSG...UP  1.37%

 INKP 8.65%

 BBCA 5.39%
 BBRI 6.67%
 ANTM 4.44%
 Penjelasan : Tiga saham BIG CAPS..belum bisa MENGALAHKAN GAIN INKP!

 LAZARUS STOCKS...
 DART 34.43%
 VOKS 15.49%
 ADES 29.29%
 Selamat buat yang bisa ikut INKP. Tetapi saya kasih BRAVO..buat yang
 bisa MENGANTISIPASI..LAZARUS...karena GAIN anda MASIH LEBIH TINGGI
 dibandingkan INKP!

 LQ 45 Future.297.00...UP...301.00...  GAIN 50%

 Buat teman2 OB anda boleh PREDIKSI NAIK/TURUN indeks BEJ tetapi kalo
 anda tidak pada posisi seperti saya, yaitu PLAYER LQ45 future..
 MEANINGLESS!?
 Gain yang tertulis di atas TIDAK DAPAT anda NIKMATI!

 PESANNYA: Kalo Anda YAKIN bahwa BURSA akan NAIK tetapi ANDA TIDAK
 YAKIN kalo SAHAM anda NAIK? BELILAH INDEKSNYA!!!

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kapan PTBA naik yah? Good news lambat naik!

2006-04-06 Terurut Topik EKA SUWANDANA



Jam 3:33 pm, PTBA 2225 sempat 2250, mudah2an 2300 tembus, mas Oentoeng. Soalnya ini saham seharusnya ceritanya sama dgn PGAS. Potensi growth melebihi ANTM (kalo nickel flat!) Sayangnya PTBA nggak bisa di spekulasikan soalnya nggak ada FUTURES COAL (cek di www.globalcoal.com, coal yg highgrade doank). Kalo ANTM tinggal lihat www.kitcometals.com kita bisa tahu kapan profit taking.oentoeng_q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Kalo Belum NAIK karena BELUM GILIRANNYA P. EKA.SabaKarena BOZZ masih suka di FINANSIALntar kalo MINING sudah jalan!? Saya selalu membaca ulasan Fundamental Anda.Pesan BOZZ: IF TIME TO PLAY FOR PTBA BEGIN..BUY PTBA 2500IS NOT TOO LATE!!!Silahkan Para Analis
 membuat FAIR VALUE-nya.Kembali ngomong PTBA.KAMI yang merealisasikan PTBA-W dari Rp. 6-13menjadi Rp. 1000,- LEBIH!!!Menjadi SATU-SATU-nya WARRANT yang bisa di-EXCERSICE setelah KRISIS!NB: Sekarang GEMBONG2-nya sedang NONGKRONG di BNGA-W,OK!?--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, EKA SUWANDANA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Berita ttg pembangunan 3 PLTU sudah keluar di koran. Yg ukuran kecil saja akan menghabiskan 9 juta ton Batu Bara /tahun. Belum yg terbesar PLTU Mulut/muara tambang (kapasitas produksi sekarang 9 jt ton).   Belum rel kereta. Tapi flashback ANTM...saya juga nunggu sekitar 2 tahun dari 2004 utk realisasi FENI III saja.   Udah keburu banyak ngumpulin PTBA lagi!!! ANy infos for PTBA?




  
  
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[obrolan-bandar] Ngintip TINS

2006-04-06 Terurut Topik Iwan Ridwan





Dear All,

Buat yang lagi ngintip TINS, inimungkin 
alasan kenapa hari ini TINS bangun dari tidurnya. Harga timah lagi 
naik.





DJ 2ND UPDATE: LME Copper, Zinc Hit 
Fresh Highs In Asia(Updates with other metal prices, analyst comment.) By Glenys Sim 
Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES SINGAPORE (Dow Jones)--Copper and zinc 
rose Thursday as funds continued to pour money into commodities on the back of 
supply concerns. At 0700 GMT, the three-month contract for copper on the 
London Metal Exchange was trading at $5,745 a metric ton after reaching a new 
record of $5,765/ton earlier, while the three-month zinc contract was off its 
new high of $2,822.50/ton at $2,807.50/ton. "Funds are looking for 
places to put money and they feel that fundamentals are still very there. There 
is a movement towards diversification, away from paper assets and back into hard 
assets (such as metals)... as a part of a portfolio you just have to have," said 
senior analyst Phil Flynn of Alaron Trading in a CNBC interview Thursday. 
Traders and analysts said buying interest on copper spilled over to the 
other base metals and at 0700 GMT, the LME three-month aluminum contract was up 
$2.50 at $2,512.50/ton, lead was up $5 at $1,155, nickel was up $150 at 
$16,900/ton, and tin was up $25 at $8,400/ton. Market observers said the 
bulls will likely drive the market higher, with copper at $6,000/ton within 
reach, especially since supply disruptions don't seem to be abating. 
Copper supply has been plagued with production disturbances in the past 
month. There is an ongoing strike at Grupo Mexico's (GMEXICO.MX) La 
Caridad Mine, tension is running high in Zambia's copper industry, while 
Falconbridge Ltd. (FAL) had to declare a force majeure Wednesday due to 
technical problems at its Collahuasi mine in Chile. In March, the 
Newmont Mining Corp. (NEM) said it will defer production at its Batu Hijau 
operation in Indonesia due to technical problems, and Freeport-McMoRan Gold 
 Copper Inc.'s (FCX) Grasberg Mine in Indonesia was hit by a landslide as 
well as local protests. China Copper Also At Fresh Highs 
Meanwhile, on the Shanghai Futures Exchange, the benchmark June copper 
contract also touched a new high of CNY53,480/ton Thursday before closing at 
CNY53,340/ton. "Shanghai copper prices are playing catch-up to the LME. 
Many consumers in China are buying forward to hedge against further price hikes. 
If they make a profit on the futures market, it will help to offset high prices 
in the spot market," said Shanghai Dalu Futures analyst Wang Zheng. Some 
local participants said although consumers are buying hand-to-mouth because of 
high prices, they still have to purchase if their stocks run low, especially 
with the peak summer season approaching. As a result, spot copper in 
China also hit fresh highs Thursday. In the Changjiang Nonferrous Metals Trading 
market, one of the major spot markets in eastern China, spot copper was quoted 
at CNY52,890/ton-CNY53,090/ton, compared with CNY51,800/ton-CNY52,000/ton 
Wednesday. Others feel high prices are slowing China's domestic demand, 
although they admit this is unlikely to weigh on the current rally. "A 
big part of the rise is attributed to speculative activity but with such strong 
bullish sentiment in the market, no one (speculators or consumers) dares to 
sell," said Li Rong, an analyst with Great Wall Futures Co. -By Glenys 
Sim, Dow Jones Newswires; 65-6415-4083, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (END) 
Dow Jones NewswiresApril 06, 2006 03:25 ET (07:25 GMT)Copyright 
(c) 2006 Dow Jones  Company, Inc.- - 03 25 AM EDT 04-06-06 




  




  
  
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kapan PTBA naik yah? Good news lambat naik!

2006-04-06 Terurut Topik Aria Bela Nusa










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Kapan PTBA naik yah? Good news lambat naik!





Jam 3:33 pm, PTBA 2225
sempat 2250, mudah2an 2300 tembus, mas Oentoeng. Soalnya ini saham seharusnya
ceritanya sama dgn PGAS. Potensi growth melebihi ANTM (kalo nickel flat!)
Sayangnya PTBA nggak bisa di spekulasikan soalnya nggak ada FUTURES COAL (cek di
www.globalcoal.com, coal yg highgrade
doank). 











Kalo ANTM tinggal lihat www.kitcometals.com kita bisa tahu kapan
profit taking.

oentoeng_q
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Kalo Belum NAIK karena BELUM GILIRANNYA P. EKA.
SabaKarena BOZZ masih suka di FINANSIAL
ntar kalo MINING sudah jalan!? 
Saya selalu membaca ulasan Fundamental Anda.

Pesan BOZZ: IF TIME TO PLAY FOR PTBA
BEGIN..BUY PTBA 2500IS 
NOT TOO LATE!!!

Silahkan Para Analis membuat FAIR VALUE-nya.

Kembali ngomong PTBA.KAMI yang merealisasikan
PTBA-W dari Rp. 6-
13menjadi Rp. 1000,- LEBIH!!!
Menjadi SATU-SATU-nya WARRANT yang bisa
di-EXCERSICE setelah KRISIS!

NB: Sekarang GEMBONG2-nya sedang NONGKRONG di
BNGA-W,OK!?

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, EKA
SUWANDANA [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Berita ttg pembangunan 3 PLTU sudah keluar di
koran. Yg ukuran 
kecil saja akan menghabiskan 9 juta ton Batu Bara
/tahun. Belum yg 
terbesar PLTU Mulut/muara tambang (kapasitas
produksi sekarang 9 jt 
ton). 
 
 Belum rel kereta. Tapi flashback
ANTM...saya juga nunggu sekitar 
2 tahun dari 2004 utk realisasi FENI III saja. 
 
 Udah keburu banyak ngumpulin PTBA
lagi!!! ANy infos for PTBA?



















  




  
  
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[obrolan-bandar] Short Sale di pasar saham jakarta (JSX)

2006-04-06 Terurut Topik Michael Slamet



Dear rekan-rekan,

Apakah short sale bisa dilakukan di jsx? Jika bisa, berapa rentang
waktu terlalu antara jual dan beli? Misalnya kita jual pagi hr ini,
paling lambat kita mesti beli saham itu kapan ya?

PS: saya pemula dan baru belajar saham.

Terima kasih banyak.

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[obrolan-bandar] Pialang Saham Pilihan Anda

2006-04-06 Terurut Topik Michael Slamet



Dear rekan-rekan,

Adakah pialang saham yang bisa direkomendasikan oleh rekan-rekan?

Kriteria:
- professional dan bisa diandalkan
- fee relatif terjangkau, sesuai dengan kemampuan si pialang
- pialang boleh/bisa memberikan rekomendasikan, yang tidak bs memberikan rekomendasikan pun tidak apa2

Jika ada rekan-rekan yang bekerja di perusahaan sekuritas dan berniat
menawarkan jasanya, bisa contact ke saya via japri. Dalam bbrp bulan
kedepan, rencana saya ikut trading di stock market. Dana awal sekitar
200jt. Jika pialang ok, dalam 1-2 tahun kedepan dana akan ditambah bbrp
kali lipat dari dana awal. Model trading adalah short term. Beli dan
jual dalam waktu singkat, jadi pialang bisa berharap dapat cukup byk
komisi.

T-Q!


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[obrolan-bandar] Apa rekomendasi buat trading jumat?

2006-04-06 Terurut Topik oho milyuners
Gmana rekan2 rekomendasi saham untuk jumat,mengingat
pasar udah nembus resistant?Thanx


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[obrolan-bandar] Gmana rekomendasi untuk trading jumat?Mengingat pasar dah ketinggian.

2006-04-06 Terurut Topik oho milyuners
Gmana rekan2 rekomendasi buat trading jumat mengingat
pasar dah nembus resistant?Qra2 mau dibawa kemana ini
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[obrolan-bandar] Tommorow.......

2006-04-06 Terurut Topik shimon





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Re: [obrolan-bandar] INDEKS KETINGGIAN?

2006-04-06 Terurut Topik Bonardo Paruntungan
hmm... enaknya bilang Indeks dah KETINGGIAN atau
TEKNIKAL KOREKSI yah?... soalnya kalu dibilang
ketinggian dilihat darimana?

mungkin saya salah ngerti.. mohon pencerahan...

4 hari kedepan... jumat akan libur panjang lagii...
akankah lesu atau TANCAP GAS? dan kamis akan LIBUR
panjaang lagi... moment LESU darahkan JSX nanti?
 atau perkiraan pak oentung yang meleset the lowest
Indeks.. justru akan terjadi di bulan APRIL..
- LOwest dalam artian dalam bulan APRIL JSX akan
melesat sesuai optimisme 1400 - 1500 - 1600 dan
SUPPORT di 1250 - 1270... mana saya tahu wong saya
hanya mencollect info di milis ini =D tapi apa
momentnya?


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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Market move up again,Buy ANTM 4550,BBRI 4300,BBCA 4300, good luck

2006-04-06 Terurut Topik dhan4trade
Pak busur
rekomendasinya untuk esok pagi dan selanjutnya apa yah?
bnga buat saya party is over...
ptba apakah masih bisa di collect?

yg lainnya apa yah... denger infonya bd cuan n pak oentoeng kok serem 
amat

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[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG…........PENJELASAN….........Part 3

2006-04-06 Terurut Topik oentoeng_q
Untuk diketahui saja, SETAHU SAYA namanya BOZZ (real BOZZ) yg sering 
disinggung MBAH; dan kalo bener2 BOZZ…… Kerjaannya hanya MAINAN 
1.Saham2 BLUE CHIPS (terutama BUMN)…..seperti TLKM, ISAT, SMGR dll.
2.BIG CAPS lainnya (non BUMN)…..seperti GGRM, BBCA dll.
Sedangkan 2 and 3 liners (Lapis Dua dan Tiga) itu DIKERJAKAN para 
SOHIB ato KRONI ato BAKAL (Bandar loKAL and naKAL)
Misal MPPA, INKP, LSIP dll.
So…..Kalo ada yang nanya MYOR ke BOZZ kayaknya bikin saya SENYUM2
Apalagi SMDR…setahu saya itu MAINAN-nya MEZZO….ZZO….MILD.

Bagaimanapun saya menaruh HORMAT kepada BELIAU 2x karena MEREKA 
adalah PARA MASTER!!!

Artinya : Fenomena Asing di BEJ menurut Oentoeng……
1. TIDAK ADA CERITANYA kalo FOREIGN beli saham ALMI, ADMG, CTRA, 
SSIA dll… Itu hanyalah pihak2 tertentu (Market Maker) yang 
berusaha men-DRIVE harga dengan tujuan MENGANGKAT HARGA LEBIH TINGGI 
ato INGIN JUALAN!!!
2. Beberapa saat ini TIDAK ADA ASING yang BELI secara SIGNIFIKAN 
di BURSA KITA. Bagi teman2 OB yg tahu ORDER ASING BETULAN (ASLI) 
silahkan membantu.
3. Dari 2 point di atas; teman2 harus melihat SAHAM dari CERITANYA 
bukan dari siapa yang MASUK maupun yang KELUAR! 
Biar tidak ada CERITA yg LUCU ketika nanya CTRS dan CTRA yg NAIK 
TURUN eh…. TURUN dulu baru NAIK lagi!?
Hehehe……kalo udah NAIK lagi baru DIAM!!!

Kesimpulan: 
1.  Maksud saya memberi penjelasan di seri 3 ini adalah 
memberi GAMBARAN bursa kita SAAT INI. Bukan untuk MENELANJANGI 
pihak tertentu….lebih supaya milis ini LEBIH LAMA LEBIH BANYAK 
ANGGOTANYA…..LEBIH BERBOBOT OBROLANNYA…..Masak OBROLAN BANDAR tidak 
tahu DUNIA per-BANDAR-an.
2.  Ngomong2 MBAH KITA (yang punya RUMAH) kemana yach? Kangen 
juga sama Beliau…..

Seri berikutnya akan dilanjutkan dengan penjelasan2 yg LEBIH 
SERAMMM kalo ada permintaan…..Karena waktu kita TRADING…..UP 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re:Gmana rekomendasi untuk trading jumat?Mengingat pasar dah ketinggian.

2006-04-06 Terurut Topik amgsby-qmr
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[obrolan-bandar] Rio May Spend $1 Bln on Indonesian Mine,

2006-04-06 Terurut Topik Solo





Rio May Spend $1 Bln on Indonesian Mine, Purnomo Says (Update1) 

April 7 (Bloomberg) -- Rio Tinto Group, the world's No. 3 mining company, is 
in talks with the Indonesian government to invest $1 billion in a nickel mining 
project as prices rise, Energy and Mineral Resources Minister Purnomo 
Yusgiantoro said. 
The company is studying a laterite deposit containing nickel on Sulawesi 
Island, Purnomo said in an interview last night. Rio Tinto and central 
government officials are in Sulawesi to discuss the plan with regional 
authorities, he said. 
PAK EKA, KIRA-KIRA SAHAM APA YG AKAN MELEJIT 
HARGANYA?

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AM
  Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Nickel 
  Price is rallying ! 7,5 USD/lb
  
  
  Pak Eka, untuk ANTM 
  proyek Tayan Alumina thn 2009 kira2 bisa menghasilkan net income brp yach? 
  Untuk harga alumina itu sendiri brp yach per ton 
  nya?
  
  Thanks 
  yach
  
  Regards,
  
  Herman
  
  
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  rallying ! 7,5 USD/lb
  
  
  Harga nickel 
  seminggu ini naik dari 6,7usd ke 7,5usd/lb. All time high-nya ada dikisaran 
  8,5 USD/lb, sangat mungkin pecah kata beberapa 
  analis.
  
  
  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG�........PENJELASAN�.........Part 3

2006-04-06 Terurut Topik koli koli



Sebetulnya order asing asli emang ada, tapi jangan heran order asing yg dari luar pun kadang kadang adalah order boz ( 1 z nya .. he..he ) dari sini juga. Nah susahnya kita gak tau mana order yg bener, yg kita bisa tau bahwa order itu dari luaraja. kalo sec asing,banyak Boz lokal ygpake baju kuning . Kalo kita banyak ngobrol diluaran , kadang kita bisa denger denger siapa Boz boz saham tertentu. Seperti kata pak oentoeng ... Boz boz sering ngangkat harga untuk jualan, dan ditambah cerita atau rumor yang bikin orang merasa yakin ... masalahnya kita sulit tau kapan bid nya udah cukup gemuk.. yang jelas bisa liat cuma pbt nya boz .. jelas banget !! he..he... Halo apa kabar Boz Bozyang masih aktif dan udah retired ...oentoeng_q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Untuk diketahui saja, SETAHU SAYA namanya BOZZ (real BOZZ) yg sering disinggung MBAH; dan kalo bener2 BOZZ…… Kerjaannya hanya "MAINAN" 1.Saham2 BLUE CHIPS (terutama BUMN)…..seperti TLKM, ISAT, SMGR dll.2.BIG CAPS lainnya (non BUMN)…..seperti GGRM, BBCA dll.Sedangkan 2 and 3 liners (Lapis Dua dan Tiga) itu "DIKERJAKAN" para SOHIB ato "KRONI" ato "BAKAL" (Bandar loKAL and naKAL)Misal MPPA, INKP, LSIP dll.So…..Kalo ada yang nanya MYOR ke BOZZ kayaknya bikin saya "SENYUM2"Apalagi SMDR…setahu saya itu MAINAN-nya MEZZO….ZZO….MILD.Bagaimanapun saya menaruh HORMAT kepada BELIAU 2x karena MEREKA adalah PARA "MASTER"!!!Artinya : Fenomena Asing di BEJ menurut Oentoeng……1. "TIDAK ADA CERITANYA" kalo "FOREIGN" beli saham ALMI, ADMG, CTRA, SSIA dll… Itu hanyalah pihak2 tertentu (Market Maker) yang berusaha men-DRIVE harga dengan tujuan MENGANGKAT HARGA LEBIH
 TINGGI ato INGIN JUALAN!!!2. Beberapa saat ini TIDAK ADA ASING yang BELI secara "SIGNIFIKAN" di BURSA KITA. Bagi teman2 OB yg tahu "ORDER ASING BETULAN (ASLI)" silahkan membantu.3. Dari 2 point di atas; teman2 harus melihat SAHAM dari "CERITANYA" bukan dari siapa yang MASUK maupun yang KELUAR! Biar tidak ada CERITA yg LUCU ketika nanya CTRS dan CTRA yg NAIK TURUN eh…. TURUN dulu baru NAIK lagi!?Hehehe……kalo udah NAIK lagi baru DIAM!!!Kesimpulan: 1. Maksud saya memberi penjelasan di seri 3 ini adalah memberi "GAMBARAN" bursa kita SAAT INI. Bukan untuk "MENELANJANGI" pihak tertentu….lebih supaya milis ini LEBIH LAMA LEBIH BANYAK ANGGOTANYA…..LEBIH BERBOBOT OBROLANNYA…..Masak OBROLAN BANDAR tidak tahu "DUNIA per-BANDAR-an."2. Ngomong2 MBAH KITA (yang punya "RUMAH") kemana yach? Kangen juga sama Beliau…..Seri berikutnya akan dilanjutkan
 dengan penjelasan2 yg "LEBIH SERAMMM" kalo ada permintaan…..Karena waktu kita TRADING…..UP semakin lama semakin MENIPIS…..
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Sukses main saham dengan TIDAK main saham

2006-04-06 Terurut Topik budi suryono



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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re:Gmana rekomendasi untuk trading jumat?Men gingat pasar dah ketinggian.

2006-04-06 Terurut Topik Lusiana Permata (Smg)
Title: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re:Gmana rekomendasi untuk trading jumat?Mengingat pasar dah ketinggian.







pak,saya anggota baru info nih.,rals,isat.tlkm.untr,ok lho.


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KLBF masih layak u/ dibeli
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Nickel Price is rallying ! 7,5 USD/lb

2006-04-06 Terurut Topik EKA SUWANDANA



Kalo harga seton antara 370-400 USD/MT. Kapasitas Tayan 200-300ribu. 49% milik ANTM (dioperasikan ANTM). Kalo kontribusi laba saya nggak tahuharus tahu costnya dulu. Datang saja ke RUPS ANTM (udah pernah 2 kali), kita bisa cari info.Herman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Pak Eka, untuk ANTM proyek Tayan Alumina thn 2009 kira2 bisa menghasilkan net income brp yach? Untuk harga alumina itu sendiri brp yach per ton nya?Thanks yachRegards,Herman  -Original Message-From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of EKA SUWANDANASent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 10:31 AMTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSubject: [obrolan-bandar] Nickel Price is rallying ! 7,5 USD/lb  Harga nickel seminggu ini naik dari 6,7usd ke 7,5usd/lb. All time high-nya ada dikisaran 8,5 USD/lb, sangat mungkin pecah kata beberapa
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] INDEKS KETINGGIAN?

2006-04-06 Terurut Topik EKA SUWANDANA



Wah saya rasa nggak ketinggian. Fundamentally masih banyak perusahaan yg punya growth. Apalagi IHSG udah jarang anomali dgn regoinal. Cuma masalah naiknya earlier or later.  Kalo baca buku "The Future of Investor" by jeremy Spiegel, beliau bilang kalo GDP growth masih di bawah 7%, justru equty market bisa tumbuh beyond expectation. justru kalo ekonomi tumbuh kenceng macem RRC, index saham give bad return, soalnya high expectation.Bonardo Paruntungan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  hmm... enaknya bilang Indeks dah KETINGGIAN atauTEKNIKAL KOREKSI yah?... soalnya kalu dibilangketinggian dilihat darimana?mungkin saya salah ngerti.. mohon pencerahan...4 hari kedepan... jumat akan libur panjang lagii...akankah lesu atau TANCAP GAS? dan kamis akan LIBURpanjaang lagi... moment LESU darahkan JSX
 nanti?atau perkiraan pak oentung "yang meleset" the lowestIndeks.. justru akan terjadi di bulan APRIL..- LOwest dalam artian dalam bulan APRIL JSX akanmelesat sesuai optimisme 1400 - 1500 - 1600 danSUPPORT di 1250 - 1270... mana saya tahu wong sayahanya mencollect info di milis ini =D tapi apamomentnya?--- oho milyuners [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gmana rekan2 rekomendasi buat trading jumat mengingat pasar dah nembus resistant?Qra2 mau dibawa kemana ini index! __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 

  




  
  
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[obrolan-bandar] Listrik di Indonesia paling mahal di Asia, kita tidak boleh tinggal diam!!!

2006-04-06 Terurut Topik EKA SUWANDANA



Sebulan lalu saya ngobrol dgn kawan yg punya bisnis pembangkit listrik /PLTU. Betapa mahal daya listrik di Indonesia (termasuk yg paling mahal di dunia), dan sudah berapa direktur PLN yg jadi tersangka korupsi. Dan betapa rakyat/industri tidak bisa menolak patokan harga yg ada karena pasokan listrik masih kurang.Yg menggelitik, itu semua di jadikan alasan utk dia masuk ke bisnis listrik. Dalam hitungan 10 tahun sudah BEP. Sesudah itu tinggal menghitung untung, dgn depresiasi bisa digunakan 70 tahunan.Sowaktu itu dia bilang kalo saya nggak punya uang bangun pembangkit, lebih baik beliPGAS atau PTBA danenjoy the profit ofenergy lacking. Sangat menggelitik!

  




  
  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] UNTR

2006-04-06 Terurut Topik Tri Star




Bung Arifin,
Be careful dengan UNTR, floating sharenya udah dikit banget. 
Jangan dilawan dech 
At 12:27 07/04/2006, you wrote:
Gila ini salah kok kebal
banget dan ngeyel sih ... masak tiap dishort malah naik ... keep
short???



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[obrolan-bandar] To pak budi

2006-04-06 Terurut Topik oho milyuners
Memang TMAS mau dibawa ke harga brapa pak?MYOR gmana
pak?


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Re: [obrolan-bandar] UNTR

2006-04-06 Terurut Topik James Arifin



tapi masak sih bisa naik terus sih ... apa mesti cover short sekarang karena prediksi saya naiknya terlalu cepat ... anyway thanks informasinya kalau floating sharenya ternyata di market sudah sedikit sekali. 


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[obrolan-bandar] TMAS tampaknya breakout hari ini ,buy TMAS di 950.good luck

2006-04-06 Terurut Topik budi suryono




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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Rio May Spend $1 Bln on Indonesian Mine,

2006-04-06 Terurut Topik Aria Bela Nusa










 Gold
juga sooner or later
akan tembus
angka psikologis 600 (big swing)  utk mengimbangi pengaruh inflasi di AS (flight to quality effect)





-Original Message-
From:
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of EKA SUWANDANA
Sent: 07 April 2006 10:39
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Rio
May Spend $1 Bln on Indonesian Mine,





Kalo nickel tembus 8 USD/lb,
all time high dikisaran 7,9-8,2 USD/lb, kalo tembus ANTM dan INCO bisa naik.
Analis di bloomberg menargetkan 10 USD/lb. 





Soalnya 6 bulan ke belakang
RRC pernah menangguhkan pembelian rutin Bijih Besi dan base metal (nickel
termasuk) ke BHP Australia
dan Rio Tinto. Dgn maksud menurunkan harga pasar. Ternyata nggak sukses,
soalnya cooper naik terus, dan pemerintah Australia
membujuk Cina supaya melanjutkan pembelian ke BHP dgn imbalan penjualan Uranium
utk supply PLTN 40 tahun. So Australian mining company, sampai saat ini
masih berpengaruh besar dalam megatur harga.











Feeling saya nickel tembus 8
USD/lb , soalnya nggak kebawa naik dalam 6 bulan ini, sementara Zinc, Cooper
dan Aluminum sudah all time high.











Base Metal cek di www.kitcometals.com .

Solo
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Rio May Spend $1 Bln on Indonesian Mine, Purnomo Says
(Update1) 



April 7 (Bloomberg) -- Rio Tinto
Group, the world's No. 3 mining company, is in talks with the Indonesian
government to invest $1 billion in a nickel mining project as prices rise,
Energy and Mineral Resources Minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro said. 





The company is studying a laterite
deposit containing nickel on Sulawesi Island, Purnomo
said in an interview last night. Rio Tinto and central government officials are
in Sulawesi to discuss the
plan with regional authorities, he said. 





PAK EKA,
KIRA-KIRA SAHAM APA YG AKAN MELEJIT HARGANYA?











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From: Herman 





To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 





Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 9:32 AM





Subject: RE:
[obrolan-bandar] Nickel Price is rallying ! 7,5 USD/lb











Pak Eka,
untuk ANTM proyek Tayan Alumina thn 2009 kira2 bisa menghasilkan net income brp
yach? Untuk harga alumina itu sendiri brp yach per ton nya?











Thanks
yach











Regards,











Herman

















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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of EKA SUWANDANA
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 10:31 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Nickel
Price is rallying ! 7,5 USD/lb













Harga nickel seminggu ini
naik dari 6,7usd ke 7,5usd/lb. All time high-nya ada dikisaran 8,5 USD/lb,
sangat mungkin pecah kata beberapa analis.



















Ini yg membuat ANTM naik!
Utk yg punya ANTM cermati di www.kitcometals.com
. Keep hold ANTM!






















  




  
  
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