[obrolan-bandar] MARKET ALWAYS RIGHT……..

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik oentoeng_q



Ini yang sering saya dengar kalo tidak salah dari P. Vibby..

Bagaimanapun CERITANYA…..kalau SUDAH waktunya turun ya 
turun…..begitu bagi seorang TA. 
Apapun ALASANNYA saya pribadi SALUTE….for ELLIOTBAH..termasuk 
penemunya…EMBAH!!!

Tapi dari DUNIA PERSILATAN selalu dan pasti ada CERITA…..ini bagi 
yang suka DONGENG….
1.Masalah penurunan Indeks sampai 60….orang bilang EDAN; saya bilang 
TIDAK!!!
Karena jauh hari BOZZ sudah merencanakan SEMUANYA!? Saya sudah 
dikasih tahu suatu hari nanti kalau DOWN bisa mencapai 70 point. 
Saat itu saya belum bisa MEMBAYANGKAN bagaimana SKENARIO-nya. 
Ternyata yah begini ini…
Bagaimanapun BOZZ kan mencari MOMENT yang TEPAT untuk merealisasikan 
rencananya…..Kembali lagi Embah sudah bilang BURSA KITA ini 
TOTALITAS DIBANDARIN!? Mbah dengan ilmu Bandarmologi-nya yg sampai 
saat ini masih membuat MURID-nya ini TERKAGUM-KAGUM….
Untungnya dengan jaringan, koneksi, scenario selalu lewat OENTOENG 
dkk….
Kalau tidak percaya biar BOZZ sendiri yang MENANGGAPI……
Karena saya kemarin sempat TERLENA habis CUAN melulu…padahal sudah 
DIWARNING Mbah….tapi dasar Monyetnya lagi LUPA DARATAN….
Jadi tidak sempat ngasih tahu teman2 yg lain….kalau yg sudah EXPERT 
pasti sudah NONGKRONG di pinggir lapangan…..
Thanks ya Mbah… 
2.Masalah INDEKS 15530….sebenarnya itu adalah PSYCHOLOGICAL STOP 
bagi saya. Alasannya karena TIDAK BANYAK orang mau memprediksi lebih 
jauh lagi. Kalaupun toh ada sebenarnya DIA ngawur. Seringkali saya 
bilang di japri kalau untuk ke 2000 bukan RUTE yg SEKARANG!? Butuh 
TRUNCATION dahulu buat ELLIOTWAVE…..ya Mbah?
3.Terus terang saya cukup BEROENTOENG tidak TERGILAS PENURUNAN 
saat ini. Walaupun banyak CUAN saya yang LEPAS. Tapi ya begitulah 
keadaannya. Saya banyak MENGEMASI portfolio saya sebenarnya; 
ketika ada Pertandingan KING-KONG VS MAMMOUTH. Karena saya takut 
pertandingan akan DIMENANGKAN oleh KING-KONG. Ternyata SEMUA 
(OVERALL…) pertandingan masih DIMENANGKAN BOZZ! 
Bagaimanapun saya BANGGA dengan BOZZ kita….karena TIDAK PERNAH 
NGIBUL!? Beberapa saat lalu kan sudah dibilang DON'T BE 
GREEDY…..ternyata untuk MENGANTISIPASI kondisi hari ini…..Kalau ada 
yang KEGILAS…memang RESIKO DITANGGUNG PENUMPANG. Sudah bayar karcis 
kalau kehilangan CUAN pasti TIDAK DIGANTI seperti kalau lagi PARKIR 
di MALL.
4.Saya juga sudah MENDETEKSI adanya PEMBALIKAN ARAH untuk IDR-
USD….dari sebelumnya saya bilang DANA CALPERS sudah siap diboyong! 
Karena saya TAHU PERSIS….saat ini kurang lebih 50%…posisi BOZZ 
adalah CASH in HAND!!! Asal tahu saja GEMBONG yang jualan TINS 
berhari-hari itu memang untuk SWITCHING ke IDR saat level 8700. 
Beliau sekarang posisi PROFIT TAKING DOUBLE….TINS cost 1700-an di 
profit 2300-an…unrealized gain IDR dari spread 200 perak (8700-
8900)…..

Apapun CERITA di atas bagi saya; MBAH sudah MENGANTISIPASI adanya 
INDEX ENGINEERING…..
Kalau lagi gini saya sudah MENGHENTIKAN acara KUTU LONCAT…..karena 
tidak mau KO'IT…
Asal tahu saja milis OB yang paling DITAKUTI BOZZ……Mbah mungkin yg 
DITAKUTI??? Milis ini yg paling sering DIKERJAIN dibandingkan milis 
yg lain…..ya nggak Mbah??? Ndak tahu TO (Target Operasinya) siapa???

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[obrolan-bandar] Merah Darah... Merapi Meletus di BEJ

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Triwira Juniarta



Terima Kasih atas wejangan pak Vibby...
berkat bapak, saya ga jadi mayat hari ini... dahsyat letusan merapi BEJ 
nih..
mau Unload LSIP gimana pak?? koq masih hijau yah hari ini?
Trims...
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[obrolan-bandar] IHSG - Wedhus Gembel

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Sriwisnu Gmail





IHSGberbanding lurus dengan Wedhus Gembel 
Merapi yang sudah turun dan semakin meningkat penurunannya
Ada yang bisa kasih sinyal buy.. when ?... today or 
tomorow ?...Please comment

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[obrolan-bandar] Kurs USD/IDR di Yahoo Finance

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Ricky Dahlan



Numpang tanya dong, bagaimana cara melihat kurs
USD/IDR di yahoo finance...Thanks

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: JSX bear ?? Maybe.. = SURE

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Aria Bela Nusa



Iya, nih Pak Vibby - 'kok Pak BoPs 'nanya2 'mulu, nih (pan 'udah jelas,
ya) - he...he...


 Hehehe... sure dude..

 Sementara sih, semenjak jumat kemaren, saya duduk dengan manisnya di
 pinggiran pak, ngitungin mayat pasukan trader yang nekad. Blom ada niat
 untuk masuk dulu.

 Regards

 Vibby



 - Original Message -
 From: quot;lawlegaliousquot;
 To:
 Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 10:41 AM
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: JSX bear ?? Maybe.. = SURE


  Pak Vibby itu udah diganti SURE.. hehehe...
  oh ya p. vibby... kalu GARIS P. Vibby Kelanjutannya apa?
 
  P. Oentoeng.. bagaimana kabar INDEKS dari TEROPONG bapak..
  EMBAH itu 3 supportnya tembus... (kalu ngak salah) jadi?
 
  kalu INVESTOR LONG TERM... hehe... SMILE man.. SMILE...
 
  thanks...
 
  what a GOOD day..???
 
  cheers
  BoPs
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, quot;Santo Vibbyquot;
  wrote:
 
  Pergerakan JSX dalam 2 bulan terakhirnya yang super bullish cukup
  membuat dillema beberapa investor, Jumat lalu saya sempat membahas
  bersama dengan P'Jhon Veter mengenai kenaikan ini, Mnrt beliau dari
  sisi FA kenaikannya emang rada mengerikan kecepatan dan sudut
  kenaikannya, namun secara TA berdasarkan volume dan BBnya menurut saya
  masih dalam range yang normal.
 
  Bahkan sebenarnya target saya di 1.580 belum tercapai, sehingga
  sebenarnya walaupun terdapat sinyal bearish yang sangat kuat jumat
  kemarin, JSX masih dalam range up trendnya.. kemungkinannya merupakan
  koreksi yang normal untuk menutup gap yang terjadi (kalo disambung ke
  cerita kategori dewasa Bear Instinctnya si anak ajaib Hok One, kira2
  begini ; Ada yang ngengkang, jangan dianggurin, tapi kudu disumpel
  hehehehe).
 
  Saat ini support yang kuat terdapat pada level 1.500-an, Namun
  secara pribadi saya menilai pola candle yang terjadi merupakan sinyal
  untuk siap2 keluar dari market. Jika kekuatan Bear mampu menjebol
  support tersebut, maka bagi yang tidak mempunyai disiplin or tools
  yang kuat, mendingan nemenin saya nonton di pinggiran aja sambil
  ngitungin mayat2.
 
  Tapi, sebaliknya, jika terjadi counter attack dari pasukan Bulls,
  mendingan tetap stay wise before u decided to join the party, sapa tau
  banyak Bulls Trap... stay wise dalam arti trading plan yang ketat lho.
  . cut loss, dll kudu jadi raja tega..
 
  Well... tommorow JSX Bear ??? Maybe...
 
  Regards
 
  Vibby
 
  Disclaimer :
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS, waduh!

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik edwin



Kena gigit neh, dari untung jadi buntung, hixz..



Oskar Syahbana wrote:

 Waduh! Baru buka setengah jam lebih dikit saham ini udah turun 700 perak!

 Padahal dari TA saya harusnya bulan ini (atau minimal awal bulan depan 
 lah), bisa nyentuh 15.000.

 Ada yang tau, apakah ini hanya trend sesaat dan bakal rebound lagi 
 atau bakal justru terjun bebas?

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[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG prediction: An ElliottBAH analysis

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant



IHSG -70, INISIH udah GILA 

Bandar JUDI masuk BEJ ?


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rony Santoso 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hebat si Mbah... btw boleh dishare pake itung2an apa untuk itung 
NEGATIVE
 CAPITAL MOVEMENTnya..
 
 sekalian buat pembelajaran bagi kita2
 
 thanks
 Rony
 
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 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG prediction: An ElliottBAH 
analysis
 
 
 NEGATIVE CAPITAL MOVEMENT pada wave 5 SEBELUM IHSG JATUH terDITEKSI
 ama ilmu BANDARMOLOGI embah. ulangi SEBELUM!!! yaitu saat IHSG 
masih 
 1553. DetIk ini tinggal 1470 ATAU UDAH DOWN -83 POINT...
 
 Hanya embah yg JAUH JAUH BILANG INI REKAYASA INDEX !!!
 
 
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-
 consultant@ wrote:
 
  09:50 IHSG -36
  
  
  Teknik ELLIOTTBAH membuktikan kesakTiannya DIPREDIKSI PERTAMA !!! 
  
  
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-
  consultant@ wrote:
  
   ENNGGA SALAH TUH, PREOPENING -19,2 !!!
   
   
   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx-consultant jsx-
   consultant@ wrote:
   
IHSG prediction: An ElliottBAH analysis

The analysis BELOWS is based on a Multidimensional Analysis 
 using
MOFIFIED Elliott Wave, Fibonacci dan Bandarmologi.

Wave Numbering in EllliotBAH technique is NOT based on STRICT 
   Elliott
Wave Principle but ADJUSTED to reflect Capital Movement. So 
you 
   WILL 
find that the Wave Number is DIFFERENT with the one that is 
produced by ELWAVE.

These are the SUMMARY of analysis based on ElliottBAH 
analysis:
- Based on Negative Capital Movement in the wave 5 period, 
and 
 the
ABNORMAL burst in ENDING DIAGONAL formation, Embah 
CONCLUDE 
  that
IHSG has completed a five wave impulse wave from 1220 to 
1153 
(in RED color).
- AT THE HIGHER WAVE LEVEL, IHSG has completed impulsive wave 
3 
(in blue) and now IHSG is entering Correction Wave 4.
- IHSG will enter a Correction phase with the following 
 CORRECTION
TARGET:
- SHORT TERM correction target:
- IHSG will have SUPPORT at the following level:
- Support at 1510 which is an intersection of 38,2 
retracement and GREEN LINE bullish suport line.
- Next support will be at 50% and 61% that is at 1497 
 and 
   1482.
- MEDIUM TERM correction target:
- IHSG will retrace to the end of Wave 4 (in RED) that 
is 
  1440 
(a 100% retracement) which also near the 33,2% 
 retracement 
for Higher level Wave 3 (in BLUE) at 1427.

For next week, let's check whether the subwave of Correction 
 Wave 
  A 
   is
an impulse or correction to determine whether this is a 
ZIZZAG 
 or 
other corrective pattern.

...

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[obrolan-bandar] Highest Index

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik bozz_ku



CAN WE SEE THE HIGHEST INDEX AGAIN IN THIS
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: MARKET ALWAYS RIGHT……..

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik oentoeng_q



WELEH-WELEH -71 
KAMU MEMANG BISA
KAMU MEMANG HEBAT BOZZ.

 1.Masalah penurunan Indeks sampai 60….orang bilang EDAN; saya bilang 
 TIDAK!!!
 Karena jauh hari BOZZ sudah merencanakan SEMUANYA!? Saya sudah 
 dikasih tahu suatu hari nanti kalau DOWN bisa mencapai 70 point. 
 Saat itu saya belum bisa MEMBAYANGKAN bagaimana SKENARIO-nya. 
 Ternyata yah begini ini…
 Bagaimanapun BOZZ kan mencari MOMENT yang TEPAT untuk merealisasikan 
 rencananya…..Kembali lagi Embah sudah bilang BURSA KITA ini 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Highest Index

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik oentoeng_q



Sudah tahu JAWABANNYA BOZZ...

Ayoo KITA bertanding TERUSS..SEGALA LINI!
 
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Balasan: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG prediction: An ElliottBAH analysis

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Richard Ropongi



Ga gila mbah..Ini index yg benar !! Turunin terus !!..Saya mah udh kuras abis porto ari kamis kemarin.. CIHUYY..jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis:  IHSG -70, INISIH udah GILA Bandar JUDI masuk BEJ ?--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Rony Santoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: hebat si Mbah... btw boleh dishare pake itung2an apa untuk itung NEGATIVE CAPITAL MOVEMENTnya..  sekalian buat pembelajaran bagi kita2  thanks Rony  _   From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jsx_consultant Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 11:16 AM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG prediction: An ElliottBAH
 analysis   NEGATIVE CAPITAL MOVEMENT pada wave 5 SEBELUM IHSG JATUH terDITEKSI ama ilmu BANDARMOLOGI embah. ulangi SEBELUM!!! yaitu saat IHSG masih  1553. DetIk ini tinggal 1470 ATAU UDAH DOWN -83 POINT...  Hanya embah yg JAUH JAUH BILANG INI REKAYASA INDEX !!!--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant" 

[obrolan-bandar] Highest Index

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik bozz_ku



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Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Glenardo Jopie




hebat Pak Vibby...
berkat tbapak, rakyat masih ada yg diselamtkan dengan sekoci..
wahai tetua,apakah saat ini ANTm masih dapat berkorelasi positif dengan
harga emas dan nikel ?ato hendak terjerumus lebih jauhkan dia bersama IHSg ?
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[obrolan-bandar] tanya bottom line IHSG

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Triwira Juniarta



dear all tetua OB, kalo menurut anda berdasarkan analisa elliot wave + 
BANDARMOLOGI, bottom line IHSG prediksi rangenya berapa...
trims...

may the profit always be with us


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[obrolan-bandar] Highest Index

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik bozz_ku



WATCH THESE .
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Highest Index

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik oentoeng_q



OK BOZZ. 
Sampaikan juga di milis BOZZ sendiri
Teman2 OB PASTI ndak ada yg tahu kalo BOZZ bikin MILIS TANDINGAN.
saya sih seneng2 aja kalau INFO2nya CIAMIK kayak gini
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Highest Index

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Marjan Syah



BOZZ, saya udah cut loss.. :-( 
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[obrolan-bandar] Mbah Marijan masih bertahan di lereng - IHSG meleleh...

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik ALX




Kok belum mau turun juga yah






  
  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Highest Index Bozz??? benar Pak Oentoeng????

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Shimon





Bozz maksudnya apa ?
Bingung juga...

Apa mau naik lagi nih...
Bung Oentoeng tolong dong kasi jawaban
Tadi katanya sudah tahu...
Bagi2 dong
Kayaknya Bung Oentoeng salah satu Bozz 
ya?
Selalu oentoeng ya...

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] MARKET ALWAYS RIGHT��..

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Didi Agus Santoso



Waduh... ngga bisa baca situasi...  nyangkut deh  hiks  BLTA  ELTY bisa naik lagi atau terjun bebas?  mohon saran mbah...oentoeng_q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Ini yang sering saya dengar kalo tidak salah dari P. Vibby..Bagaimanapun "CERITANYA"…..kalau SUDAH waktunya turun ya turun…..begitu bagi seorang TA. Apapun ALASANNYA saya pribadi SALUTE….for ELLIOTBAH..termasuk penemunya…EMBAH!!!Tapi dari DUNIA PERSILATAN selalu dan pasti ada CERITA…..ini bagi yang suka DONGENG….1.Masalah penurunan Indeks sampai 60….orang bilang EDAN; saya bilang TIDAK!!!Karena jauh hari BOZZ sudah merencanakan SEMUANYA!? Saya sudah dikasih tahu suatu hari nanti kalau DOWN bisa mencapai 70 point. Saat itu saya belum bisa MEMBAYANGKAN bagaimana SKENARIO-nya.
 Ternyata yah begini ini…Bagaimanapun BOZZ kan mencari MOMENT yang TEPAT untuk merealisasikan rencananya…..Kembali lagi Embah sudah bilang BURSA KITA ini TOTALITAS DIBANDARIN!? Mbah dengan ilmu Bandarmologi-nya yg sampai saat ini masih membuat MURID-nya ini TERKAGUM-KAGUM….Untungnya dengan jaringan, koneksi, scenario selalu lewat OENTOENG dkk….Kalau tidak percaya biar BOZZ sendiri yang MENANGGAPI……Karena saya kemarin "sempat TERLENA" habis CUAN melulu…padahal sudah DIWARNING Mbah….tapi dasar "Monyet"nya lagi LUPA DARATAN….Jadi tidak sempat ngasih tahu teman2 yg lain….kalau yg sudah EXPERT pasti sudah NONGKRONG di pinggir lapangan…..Thanks ya Mbah… 2.Masalah INDEKS 15530….sebenarnya itu adalah PSYCHOLOGICAL STOP bagi saya. Alasannya karena TIDAK BANYAK orang mau memprediksi lebih jauh lagi. Kalaupun toh ada sebenarnya DIA ngawur. Seringkali saya bilang di japri kalau untuk ke 2000 bukan RUTE yg
 SEKARANG!? Butuh TRUNCATION dahulu buat ELLIOTWAVE…..ya Mbah?3.Terus terang saya cukup "BEROENTOENG" tidak TERGILAS PENURUNAN saat ini. Walaupun banyak CUAN saya yang LEPAS. Tapi ya begitulah keadaannya. Saya banyak "MENGEMASI" portfolio saya sebenarnya; ketika ada Pertandingan KING-KONG VS MAMMOUTH. Karena saya takut pertandingan akan DIMENANGKAN oleh KING-KONG. Ternyata SEMUA (OVERALL…) pertandingan masih DIMENANGKAN BOZZ! Bagaimanapun saya BANGGA dengan BOZZ kita….karena TIDAK PERNAH NGIBUL!? Beberapa saat lalu kan sudah dibilang DON'T BE GREEDY…..ternyata untuk MENGANTISIPASI kondisi hari ini…..Kalau ada yang KEGILAS…memang RESIKO DITANGGUNG PENUMPANG. Sudah bayar karcis kalau kehilangan CUAN pasti TIDAK DIGANTI seperti kalau lagi PARKIR di MALL.4.Saya juga sudah MENDETEKSI adanya PEMBALIKAN ARAH untuk IDR-USD….dari sebelumnya saya bilang DANA CALPERS sudah siap diboyong! Karena saya TAHU PERSIS….saat ini
 kurang lebih 50%…posisi BOZZ adalah CASH in HAND!!! Asal tahu saja GEMBONG yang jualan TINS berhari-hari itu memang untuk SWITCHING ke IDR saat level 8700. Beliau sekarang posisi PROFIT TAKING DOUBLE….TINS cost 1700-an di profit 2300-an…"unrealized gain" IDR dari spread 200 perak (8700-8900)…..Apapun CERITA di atas bagi saya; MBAH sudah MENGANTISIPASI adanya INDEX ENGINEERING…..Kalau lagi gini saya sudah MENGHENTIKAN acara KUTU LONCAT…..karena tidak mau KO'IT…Asal tahu saja milis OB yang paling DITAKUTI BOZZ……Mbah mungkin yg DITAKUTI??? Milis ini yg paling sering DIKERJAIN dibandingkan milis yg lain…..ya nggak Mbah??? Ndak tahu TO (Target Operasinya) siapa???Ayo BOZZ... kita terus bertanding di segala LINI!
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Highest Index

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Marjan Syah



gile bener bozz.. banzai!
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: MARKET ALWAYS RIGHT……..

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik oentoeng_q



Buat temen2 OB HATI2 karena LEDAKAN ARUS BALIK DARI TOTAL 
FOOTBALL 30 HARI BERTURUT-TURUT; DIMINTA BALIK AMA BOZZ
Ya nggak BOZZ...OK!?

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, James Arifin 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 dari sisi elwave ada bagusnya juga truncated wave sekarang karena 
akan
 membuat wave 3 - nya nanggung - belum sampai 1.68x wave 1 means 
akan bagus
 ke depannya tapi untuk sekarang sih baiknya hujan dilanjutkan lagi 
hingga
 lusa (minimal min 100 lagi) baru sih - wave correctionnya 
sederhana euy ...
 
 On 5/15/06, oentoeng_q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Ini yang sering saya dengar kalo tidak salah dari P. Vibby..
 
  Bagaimanapun CERITANYA…..kalau SUDAH waktunya turun ya
  turun…..begitu bagi seorang TA.
  Apapun ALASANNYA saya pribadi SALUTE….for ELLIOTBAH..termasuk
  penemunya…EMBAH!!!
 
  Tapi dari DUNIA PERSILATAN selalu dan pasti ada CERITA…..ini bagi
  yang suka DONGENG….
  1.Masalah penurunan Indeks sampai 60….orang bilang EDAN; saya 
bilang
  TIDAK!!!
  Karena jauh hari BOZZ sudah merencanakan SEMUANYA!? Saya sudah
  dikasih tahu suatu hari nanti kalau DOWN bisa mencapai 70 point.
  Saat itu saya belum bisa MEMBAYANGKAN bagaimana SKENARIO-nya.
  Ternyata yah begini ini…
  Bagaimanapun BOZZ kan mencari MOMENT yang TEPAT untuk 
merealisasikan
  rencananya…..Kembali lagi Embah sudah bilang BURSA KITA ini
  TOTALITAS DIBANDARIN!? Mbah dengan ilmu Bandarmologi-nya yg 
sampai
  saat ini masih membuat MURID-nya ini TERKAGUM-KAGUM….
  Untungnya dengan jaringan, koneksi, scenario selalu lewat 
OENTOENG
  dkk….
  Kalau tidak percaya biar BOZZ sendiri yang MENANGGAPI……
  Karena saya kemarin sempat TERLENA habis CUAN melulu…padahal 
sudah
  DIWARNING Mbah….tapi dasar Monyetnya lagi LUPA DARATAN….
  Jadi tidak sempat ngasih tahu teman2 yg lain….kalau yg sudah 
EXPERT
  pasti sudah NONGKRONG di pinggir lapangan…..
  Thanks ya Mbah…
  2.Masalah INDEKS 15530….sebenarnya itu adalah PSYCHOLOGICAL STOP
  bagi saya. Alasannya karena TIDAK BANYAK orang mau memprediksi 
lebih
  jauh lagi. Kalaupun toh ada sebenarnya DIA ngawur. Seringkali 
saya
  bilang di japri kalau untuk ke 2000 bukan RUTE yg SEKARANG!? 
Butuh
  TRUNCATION dahulu buat ELLIOTWAVE…..ya Mbah?
  3.Terus terang saya cukup BEROENTOENG tidak TERGILAS PENURUNAN
  saat ini. Walaupun banyak CUAN saya yang LEPAS. Tapi ya begitulah
  keadaannya. Saya banyak MENGEMASI portfolio saya sebenarnya;
  ketika ada Pertandingan KING-KONG VS MAMMOUTH. Karena saya takut
  pertandingan akan DIMENANGKAN oleh KING-KONG. Ternyata SEMUA
  (OVERALL…) pertandingan masih DIMENANGKAN BOZZ!
  Bagaimanapun saya BANGGA dengan BOZZ kita….karena TIDAK PERNAH
  NGIBUL!? Beberapa saat lalu kan sudah dibilang DON'T BE
  GREEDY…..ternyata untuk MENGANTISIPASI kondisi hari ini…..Kalau 
ada
  yang KEGILAS…memang RESIKO DITANGGUNG PENUMPANG. Sudah bayar 
karcis
  kalau kehilangan CUAN pasti TIDAK DIGANTI seperti kalau lagi 
PARKIR
  di MALL.
  4.Saya juga sudah MENDETEKSI adanya PEMBALIKAN ARAH untuk IDR-
  USD….dari sebelumnya saya bilang DANA CALPERS sudah siap 
diboyong!
  Karena saya TAHU PERSIS….saat ini kurang lebih 50%…posisi BOZZ
  adalah CASH in HAND!!! Asal tahu saja GEMBONG yang jualan TINS
  berhari-hari itu memang untuk SWITCHING ke IDR saat level 8700.
  Beliau sekarang posisi PROFIT TAKING DOUBLE….TINS cost 1700-an di
  profit 2300-an…unrealized gain IDR dari spread 200 perak (8700-
  8900)…..
 
  Apapun CERITA di atas bagi saya; MBAH sudah MENGANTISIPASI adanya
  INDEX ENGINEERING…..
  Kalau lagi gini saya sudah MENGHENTIKAN acara KUTU 
LONCAT…..karena
  tidak mau KO'IT…
  Asal tahu saja milis OB yang paling DITAKUTI BOZZ……Mbah mungkin 
yg
  DITAKUTI??? Milis ini yg paling sering DIKERJAIN dibandingkan 
milis
  yg lain…..ya nggak Mbah??? Ndak tahu TO (Target Operasinya) 
siapa???
 
  Ayo BOZZ... kita terus bertanding di segala LINI!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[obrolan-bandar] IHSG hebat!

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Others





Hebat...IHSG -91
untung 
dah gua liquid. 

Bozz 
kalo ada hajatan, sadis yach! hahaha...




  
  
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hebat!

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik www.titan




Jadi inget cerita Keledai nyebrang bawa karung garam
airnya pasti asin banget...

:-_


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 Hebat...IHSG -91
 untung dah gua liquid. 
 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: [junior_Trader] Biggest daily decline past 5 years

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Santo Vibby





Jangan bilang saya tidak kasih tau lho ya 
hehehhe... 






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Re: [obrolan-bandar]THANKS TO MR OENTOENG

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik gitto kurniasanto



 saya sebagai pengikut aliran loentoeng kasaroeng
mengucapkan buaanyak trimakasi. ahli TA yg tiap hari
nongkrong dpn monitor pun akan terbengong2, wong ini
yg dipake ilmu bozz.. Sia2 saya belajar ilmu TA di
kampUs rimba depok kalo ga digabung ama ilmu loentoeng
kasarung ama eliotmbah. Status; 100% cash in hand! OB
memang YAHOED...!
--- obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Waduh... ngga bisa baca situasi...
 nyangkut deh  hiks
 BLTA  ELTY bisa naik lagi atau terjun bebas?
 mohon saran mbah...
 
 oentoeng_q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ini yang sering saya dengar kalo tidak salah dari
P. Vibby..
 

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 TIDAK!!!
 Karena jauh hari BOZZ sudah merencanakan SEMUANYA!?
Saya sudah 
 dikasih tahu suatu hari nanti kalau DOWN bisa
mencapai 70 point. 
 Saat itu saya belum bisa MEMBAYANGKAN bagaimana
SKENARIO-nya. 

=?iso-8859-1?B?VGVybnlhdGEgeWFoIGJlZ2luaSBpbmmFDQ==?=
 Bagaimanapun BOZZ kan mencari MOMENT yang TEPAT
untuk merealisasikan 

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 TOTALITAS DIBANDARIN!? Mbah dengan ilmu
Bandarmologi-nya yg sampai 

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 Untungnya dengan jaringan, koneksi, scenario selalu
lewat OENTOENG 
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 bagi saya. Alasannya karena TIDAK BANYAK orang mau
memprediksi lebih 
 jauh lagi. Kalaupun toh ada sebenarnya DIA ngawur.
Seringkali saya 
 bilang di japri kalau untuk ke 2000 bukan RUTE yg
SEKARANG!? Butuh 

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 3.Terus terang saya cukup BEROENTOENG tidak
TERGILAS PENURUNAN 
 saat ini. Walaupun banyak CUAN saya yang LEPAS. Tapi
ya begitulah 
 keadaannya. Saya banyak MENGEMASI portfolio saya
sebenarnya; 
 ketika ada Pertandingan KING-KONG VS MAMMOUTH.
Karena saya takut 
 pertandingan akan DIMENANGKAN oleh KING-KONG.
Ternyata SEMUA 

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 NGIBUL!? Beberapa saat lalu kan sudah dibilang DON'T
BE 

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 kalau kehilangan CUAN pasti TIDAK DIGANTI seperti
kalau lagi PARKIR 
 di MALL.
 4.Saya juga sudah MENDETEKSI adanya PEMBALIKAN ARAH
untuk IDR-

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 adalah CASH in HAND!!! Asal tahu saja GEMBONG yang
jualan TINS 
 berhari-hari itu memang untuk SWITCHING ke IDR saat
level 8700. 

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 Apapun CERITA di atas bagi saya; MBAH sudah
MENGANTISIPASI adanya 
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 DITAKUTI??? Milis ini yg paling sering DIKERJAIN
dibandingkan milis 

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 Ayo BOZZ... kita terus bertanding di segala 

Re: [obrolan-bandar]THANKS TO MR OENTOENG

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik gitto kurniasanto



 saya sebagai pengikut aliran loentoeng kasaroeng
mengucapkan buaanyak trimakasi. ahli TA yg tiap hari
nongkrong dpn monitor pun akan terbengong2, wong ini
yg dipake ilmu bozz.. Sia2 saya belajar ilmu TA di
kampUs rimba depok kalo ga digabung ama ilmu loentoeng
kasarung ama eliotmbah. Status; 100% cash in hand! OB
memang YAHOED...!
--- obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Waduh... ngga bisa baca situasi...
 nyangkut deh  hiks
 BLTA  ELTY bisa naik lagi atau terjun bebas?
 mohon saran mbah...
 
 oentoeng_q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ini yang sering saya dengar kalo tidak salah dari
P. Vibby..
 

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 TIDAK!!!
 Karena jauh hari BOZZ sudah merencanakan SEMUANYA!?
Saya sudah 
 dikasih tahu suatu hari nanti kalau DOWN bisa
mencapai 70 point. 
 Saat itu saya belum bisa MEMBAYANGKAN bagaimana
SKENARIO-nya. 

=?iso-8859-1?B?VGVybnlhdGEgeWFoIGJlZ2luaSBpbmmFDQ==?=
 Bagaimanapun BOZZ kan mencari MOMENT yang TEPAT
untuk merealisasikan 

=?iso-8859-1?B?cmVuY2FuYW55YYUuLktlbWJhbGkgbGFnaSBFbWJhaCBzdWRhaCBiaWxhbmcgQlVSU0EgS0lUQSBpbmkgDQ==?=
 TOTALITAS DIBANDARIN!? Mbah dengan ilmu
Bandarmologi-nya yg sampai 

=?iso-8859-1?B?c2FhdCBpbmkgbWFzaWggbWVtYnVhdCBNVVJJRC1ueWEgaW5pIFRFUktBR1VNLUtBR1VNhS4N?=
 Untungnya dengan jaringan, koneksi, scenario selalu
lewat OENTOENG 
 =?iso-8859-1?B?ZGtrhS4N?=

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 bagi saya. Alasannya karena TIDAK BANYAK orang mau
memprediksi lebih 
 jauh lagi. Kalaupun toh ada sebenarnya DIA ngawur.
Seringkali saya 
 bilang di japri kalau untuk ke 2000 bukan RUTE yg
SEKARANG!? Butuh 

=?iso-8859-1?B?VFJVTkNBVElPTiBkYWh1bHUgYnVhdCBFTExJT1RXQVZFhS4ueWEgTWJhaD8N?=
 3.Terus terang saya cukup BEROENTOENG tidak
TERGILAS PENURUNAN 
 saat ini. Walaupun banyak CUAN saya yang LEPAS. Tapi
ya begitulah 
 keadaannya. Saya banyak MENGEMASI portfolio saya
sebenarnya; 
 ketika ada Pertandingan KING-KONG VS MAMMOUTH.
Karena saya takut 
 pertandingan akan DIMENANGKAN oleh KING-KONG.
Ternyata SEMUA 

=?iso-8859-1?B?KE9WRVJBTEyFKSBwZXJ0YW5kaW5nYW4gbWFzaWggRElNRU5BTkdLQU4gQk9aWiEgDQ==?=

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 NGIBUL!? Beberapa saat lalu kan sudah dibilang DON'T
BE 

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 kalau kehilangan CUAN pasti TIDAK DIGANTI seperti
kalau lagi PARKIR 
 di MALL.
 4.Saya juga sudah MENDETEKSI adanya PEMBALIKAN ARAH
untuk IDR-

=?iso-8859-1?B?VVNEhS5kYXJpIHNlYmVsdW1ueWEgc2F5YSBiaWxhbmcgREFOQSBDQUxQRVJTIHN1ZGFoIHNpYXAgZGlib3lvbmchIA0=?=

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 adalah CASH in HAND!!! Asal tahu saja GEMBONG yang
jualan TINS 
 berhari-hari itu memang untuk SWITCHING ke IDR saat
level 8700. 

=?iso-8859-1?B?QmVsaWF1IHNla2FyYW5nIHBvc2lzaSBQUk9GSVQgVEFLSU5HIERPVUJMRYUuVElOUyBjb3N0IDE3MDAtYW4gZGkgDQ==?=

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 =?iso-8859-1?B?ODkwMCmFLi4N?=
 
 Apapun CERITA di atas bagi saya; MBAH sudah
MENGANTISIPASI adanya 
 =?iso-8859-1?B?SU5ERVggRU5HSU5FRVJJTkeFLi4N?=

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 DITAKUTI??? Milis ini yg paling sering DIKERJAIN
dibandingkan milis 

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 Ayo BOZZ... kita terus bertanding di segala 

[obrolan-bandar] ANTM Sampoerna yg tarik dana!!!

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik EKA SUWANDANA



Nickel sudah sentuh di atas 10 USD/lb atau tepatnya di 22300USD/ton.  Bakal balik!Menurut kawan saya, ini kerjaan Sampoerna yg profit taking dari BEJ via OD.Glenardo Jopie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  hebat Pak Vibby...berkat tbapak, rakyat masih ada yg diselamtkan dengan sekoci..wahai tetua,apakah saat ini ANTm masih dapat berkorelasi positif denganharga emas dan nikel ?ato hendak terjerumus lebih jauhkan dia bersama IHSg ?Rx Yahoo! Groups Links




  
  
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: ANTM Sampoerna yg tarik dana!!!

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, EKA SUWANDANA [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 
 Menurut kawan saya, ini kerjaan Sampoerna yg profit taking dari 
BEJ via OD.


JANGAN JANGAN ini kerjaan si CALPER dan investor asing yang 
baca posting embah yang berjudul IHSG PREDICTION: an 
ElliotBAH analysis...

Biasanya tulisan embah pake bahasa Indoensia jadi KAGA DIBACA... 
hehehe...

TAPI embah juga engga nyangka kalo IHSG TURUNnya -96



 
 Glenardo Jopie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 hebat Pak Vibby...
 berkat tbapak, rakyat masih ada yg diselamtkan dengan sekoci..
 wahai tetua,apakah saat ini ANTm masih dapat berkorelasi positif 
dengan
 harga emas dan nikel ?ato hendak terjerumus lebih jauhkan dia 
bersama IHSg ?
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hebat!

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik oentoeng_q



Mbah tolong dikasih PENCERAHAN BANDARMOLOGI-nya
Siapa tahu saya bisa bantu berita dari DUNIA PERSILATAN

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Others [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hebat...IHSG -91
 untung dah gua liquid. 
 
 Bozz kalo ada hajatan, sadis yach! hahaha...










  
  
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Highest Index Bozz??? benar Pak Oentoeng????

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik oentoeng_q



Beberapa saat lalu kan pernah saya kasih tahu HATI2 kalau BOZZ 
ngeluarin TENAGA DALAMNYA..WUSSS
Saya lupa padahal beberapa saat lalu kan saya bilang BOZZ sedang 
ANTISIPASI MERAPI MELETUS
saya lupa ngasih tahu kalau BOZZ sedang nyari MOMENT...
Terusterang saya silap...tapi saya selamat karena KINGKONG lagi 
berantem ama MAMMOUTHmakanya semua portfolio saya saya 
ringkesin...TAKUT kalau yg DIINCER...
Yang jelas SEMINGGU INI akan MELETUS TERUStapi TERDALAM CUMAN 
HARI INI!
Rebound di pertengahan minggu,.TETAP HATI2...JANGAN TRADING BUY 
FULU!!! Saya lagi koordinasi ama teman2 yg BANDEL2
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Shimon [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Bozz maksudnya apa ?
 Bingung juga...
 
 Apa mau naik lagi nih...
 Bung Oentoeng tolong dong kasi jawaban
 Tadi katanya sudah tahu...
 Bagi2 dong
 Kayaknya Bung Oentoeng salah satu Bozz ya?
 Selalu oentoeng ya...
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 From: bozz_ku 
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 2:38 PM
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Highest Index
 
 
 WATCH THESE .
 PTBA,
 BUMI,
 BBCA,
 BBRI,
 BMRI,
 BLTA,
 
 Shall we buy again?
 Is it time to buy again
 Yammy...
 Pul again...
 
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG prediction: An ElliottBAH analysis

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik I Made Wahyu Arjaya










Kayaknye
bisa jatuh sampe 1423 nich, mbah  (FBR 38,2%)

Gile
bandar BEJ sadiz juge yeee  32 more
point to go  

Baru abis itu ngejoss lagi wave 5, bukan
begitu mbah 











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IHSG -70, INISIH udah
GILA 

Bandar JUDI masuk BEJ ?


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 hebat si Mbah... btw boleh dishare pake itung2an apa untuk itung 
NEGATIVE
 CAPITAL MOVEMENTnya..
 
 sekalian buat pembelajaran bagi kita2
 
 thanks
 Rony
 
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 NEGATIVE CAPITAL MOVEMENT pada wave 5 SEBELUM IHSG JATUH terDITEKSI
 ama ilmu BANDARMOLOGI embah. ulangi SEBELUM!!! yaitu saat IHSG 
masih 
 1553. DetIk ini tinggal 1470 ATAU UDAH DOWN -83 POINT...
 
 Hanya embah yg JAUH JAUH BILANG INI REKAYASA INDEX !!!
 
 
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-
 consultant@ wrote:
 
  09:50 IHSG -36
  
  
  Teknik ELLIOTTBAH membuktikan kesakTiannya DIPREDIKSI PERTAMA !!! 
  
  
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant
jsx-
  consultant@ wrote:
  
   ENNGGA SALAH TUH, PREOPENING -19,2 !!!
   
   
   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx-consultant jsx-
   consultant@ wrote:
   
IHSG prediction: An ElliottBAH analysis

The analysis BELOWS is based on a Multidimensional Analysis

 using
MOFIFIED Elliott Wave, Fibonacci dan Bandarmologi.

Wave Numbering in EllliotBAH technique is NOT based on
STRICT 
   Elliott
Wave Principle but ADJUSTED to reflect Capital Movement. So

you 
   WILL 
find that the Wave Number is DIFFERENT with the one that is

produced by ELWAVE.

These are the SUMMARY of analysis based on ElliottBAH 
analysis:
- Based on Negative Capital Movement in the wave 5 period, 
and 
 the
ABNORMAL burst in ENDING DIAGONAL formation,
Embah 
CONCLUDE 
  that
IHSG has completed a five wave impulse wave
from 1220 to 
1153 
(in RED color).
- AT THE HIGHER WAVE LEVEL, IHSG has completed impulsive
wave 
3 
(in blue) and now IHSG is entering
Correction Wave 4.
- IHSG will enter a Correction phase with the following 
 CORRECTION
TARGET:
- SHORT TERM correction target:
- IHSG will have SUPPORT at
the following level:
- Support
at 1510 which is an intersection of 38,2 
   
retracement and GREEN LINE bullish suport line.
- Next
support will be at 50% and 61% that is at 1497 
 and 
   1482.
- MEDIUM TERM correction target:
- IHSG will retrace to the
end of Wave 4 (in RED) that 
is 
  1440 
(a 100% retracement)
which also near the 33,2% 
 retracement 
for Higher level Wave 3
(in BLUE) at 1427.

For next week, let's check whether the subwave of
Correction 
 Wave 
  A 
   is
an impulse or correction to determine whether this is a 
ZIZZAG 
 or 
other corrective pattern.

...

embah
   
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG prediction: An ElliottBAH analysis

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik jsx-consultant



   (a 100% retracement) which also near the 33,2% retracement
   for Higher level Wave 3 (in BLUE) at 1427.

IHSG close di 1429,5 atau selisih -2,5 point dengan 33,2 retracement di
1427

Apakah teknik ElliottBAH ini cuman KEBETULAN doang. ?

Note:
- Terlampir grafik ElliotBAH yang terbaru


jsx_consultant wrote:

 NEGATIVE CAPITAL MOVEMENT pada wave 5 SEBELUM IHSG JATUH terDITEKSI
 ama ilmu BANDARMOLOGI embah. ulangi SEBELUM!!! yaitu saat IHSG masih
 1553. DetIk ini tinggal 1470 ATAU UDAH DOWN -83 POINT...

 Hanya embah yg JAUH JAUH BILANG INI REKAYASA INDEX !!!

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  09:50 IHSG -36
 
 
  Teknik ELLIOTTBAH membuktikan kesakTiannya DIPREDIKSI PERTAMA !!!
 
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-
  consultant@ wrote:
  
   ENNGGA SALAH TUH, PREOPENING -19,2 !!!
  
  
   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx-consultant jsx-
   consultant@ wrote:
   
IHSG prediction: An ElliottBAH analysis
   
The analysis BELOWS is based on a Multidimensional Analysis
 using
MOFIFIED Elliott Wave, Fibonacci dan Bandarmologi.
   
Wave Numbering in EllliotBAH technique is NOT based on STRICT
   Elliott
Wave Principle but ADJUSTED to reflect Capital Movement. So you
   WILL
find that the Wave Number is DIFFERENT with the one that is
produced by ELWAVE.
   
These are the SUMMARY of analysis based on ElliottBAH analysis:
- Based on Negative Capital Movement in the wave 5 period, and
 the
ABNORMAL burst in ENDING DIAGONAL formation, Embah CONCLUDE
  that
IHSG has completed a five wave impulse wave from 1220 to 1153
(in RED color).
- AT THE HIGHER WAVE LEVEL, IHSG has completed impulsive wave 3
(in blue) and now IHSG is entering Correction Wave 4.
- IHSG will enter a Correction phase with the following
 CORRECTION
TARGET:
- SHORT TERM correction target:
- IHSG will have SUPPORT at the following level:
- Support at 1510 which is an intersection of 38,2
retracement and GREEN LINE bullish suport line.
- Next support will be at 50% and 61% that is at 1497
 and
   1482.
- MEDIUM TERM correction target:
- IHSG will retrace to the end of Wave 4 (in RED) that is
  1440
(a 100% retracement) which also near the 33,2%
 retracement
for Higher level Wave 3 (in BLUE) at 1427.
   
For next week, let's check whether the subwave of Correction
 Wave
  A
   is
an impulse or correction to determine whether this is a ZIZZAG
 or
other corrective pattern.
   
...
   
embah
   
  
 



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[obrolan-bandar] Market Summary (JSX)

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik ptba.jk



 Market Summary (JSX) 
 1.429,5420

 +/- -96,2380 
 % -6,3075 
 Advancers 4 Mkt Vol(mn) 4.500,463 
 Unchanged 44 Mkt Val(bn) 3.952,375 
 Decliners 159 Mkt Freq 35.951 
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[obrolan-bandar] Time to collect ANTM????????????????

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Deddy



buat yg jantung kuat.kalo besok antm sampai sesi dua gak jatuh dibawah 4900 maybe can consider di collect???
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: [Wan_AL] Re: [junior_Trader] Biggest daily decline past 5 years

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Thomas



Sekedar angka-2 maut IHSG:Tgl 29/8/05 IHSG -5.16%  Tgl 30/8/05 IHSG +4.53%Tgl 17/5/04 IHSG -7.50%  Tgl 18/5/04 IHSG +1.15%  Tgl 19/5/04 IHSG +4.53%  Tgl. 21/5/04 IHSG +2.57%Jadi kalau besok atau lusa tidak rebound juga, ya sudahhe3x.  Santo Vibby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Jangan bilang saya tidak kasih tau lho ya hehehhe...   - Original Message -   From: Teddy Halim   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 3:41 PM  Subject: Re: [junior_Trader] Biggest daily decline past 5 years  JCI 1,433.938  - 91.842 - 6.010 % 31,886 volume : 4,018.9 M volume in rp:3,536.658 Bjam
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[obrolan-bandar] GLOBALISASI BANDARISME....

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik oentoeng_q



GLOBALISASI BANDARISME...or...BANDARISME GLOBAL?

Per-BANDAR-an Global...mungkin ini yang pernah dikemukan secara 
imaginatif oleh Mbah

1. Yang jelas CRASH hari ini bukan BY RUMOR, BY ACCIDENT, BY NEWS, 
or BYE..BYE..ala FUND MANAGER OUT FROM EMERGING MARKET
Karena terjadi BERSAMAAN dengan REGIONAL
Yang saya sampai GELENG-GELENG kepala...BISA-BISAnya bareng MERAPI 
MELETUS, FIX INCOME CRASH (2%),IDR-USD...PROFIT TAKING???
Seperti saya bilang tadi bahwa ada kemungkinan penurunan sd 70 
point,..ternyata 96 point dan bikin es lilin penuh. Menandakan 
bahwa PASTI besok masih turun...Rabu reboundJum'at turun lagi..
Kalau acara ini benarJADI NGGAK USAH TANYA2 ke teman yg LAIN! 
Karena sama TIDAK TAHU-nya NGGAK usah tanya2, Hehehe
Coba kita lihat AGENDA BOZZ...bahwa PENURUNAN TAJAM, SANGAT BESAR 
hanya akan DITUNJUKKAN HARI INI! Minimal untuk minggu ini kita TIDAK 
akan melihat yg seperti hari ini lagi
ARTINYA...kalau semua acara di atas terjadi...semua INDEKS 
NAIK/TURUN seperti kata Mbah tak lain tak bukan INDEX ENGINEERING!
2. Kalau kita lihat IDR-USD...dalam satu hari bisa MELOMPAT seperti 
hari ini. Berarti:
 MARI KITA PERCAYA BAHWA IDR AKAN KEMBALI KE 10.000 DULU!!!
AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
ARTINYAIndeks akan dibawa TURUN TERUS dengan INDIKATOR IDR-USD.
Tidak usah mendengarkan KI KA yg ngomong ada ANU ada 
INI...ANU..ANU
Kita lihat aja apa ngomong-nya Analis selebritis Pengamat...dll
Kan sudah saya WARNING,..kan sudah saya bilang Indeks naik terlalu 
tinggi...ANU..ANU..ANU..
Berani TARUHAN??
3. Mulai sekarang KITA HARUS lebih BERHATI2 karena kalau KEMARIN 
ASII, BBCA, BBRI, (persahaman)...mulai DIGERGAJI...berarti mulai 
HARI INI...Indeks BEJ..SINYAL MULAI DIGERGAJI! Berarti TIDAK SALAH 
kalau di milis OB berlaku bulan MEI adalah BULAN GERGAJI NASIONAL
4. Dalam hal ini saya ikut BEREMPATI buat teman2 OB yang TIDAK 
SEMPAT merasakan CUAN ketika 1000-1550 sekarang mulai BERBALIK 
ARAH...ikut BOENTOENGingat nyari DUIT; susah jaman 
sekarang...ATI2 kalau mau TERUS BERMAIN di BEJ.


NOTE: Ingat selalu WARNING dari Mbah...tentang DEAD JSX...kelihatan 
apapun ALASANNYAsaham BAGUS...apalagi SAHAM JELEK...TURUN 
TERUS...karena apa...IDR turun...TERUSSS 
Yang Naikhanya yang mau IKUT BOZZya nggak BOZZ 


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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Time to collect ANTM????????????????

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Effendy Ang



Saran saya, jangan coba coba melawan pasar. Si Bear ngamuk berat hari ini.
Umumnya sentimen bursa yang strong bearish dan volume bearish yang begitu besarnya akan menyeret semua saham, termasuk ANTM.

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS, waduh!

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Oskar Syahbana



Huwahahaha, sama nih sama. Tapi ya saha untuk saham ini memang buy-and-hold. Nanti naik lagi kok, akhir bulan Mei ini SEHARUSNYA sudah sampai di level high yang kemarin - kemarin. Itu kalo kondisi penurunan index regional selese ya.
Ini juga gara2 engga ngedengerin MBAH yang udah ngasih tau kalo elliot wave bullish ke limanya udah sampe extension berapa kali (eh... correct me if I'm wrong).Tapi ya, saham ini FA-nya bagus kok. Cuma dari sisi TA nya saya engga tau... masih belajar ;-)
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [Wan_AL] Re: [junior_Trader] Biggest daily decline past 5 years

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Glenardo Jopie





mari kita buat sesajen ke si Bozz n si Mbah..Agar 
cerita ini terulang kembali.Atau rame2 kirim sms ke pak SBY!!!Biar Mr Boediono 
di tgor!!he3x..GBU

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  Re: [junior_Trader] Biggest daily decline past 5 years
  
  Sekedar angka-2 maut IHSG:
  
  Tgl 29/8/05 IHSG -5.16%
  Tgl 30/8/05 IHSG +4.53%
  
  Tgl 17/5/04 IHSG -7.50%
  Tgl 18/5/04 IHSG +1.15%
  Tgl 19/5/04 IHSG +4.53%
  Tgl. 21/5/04 IHSG +2.57%
  
  Jadi kalau besok atau lusa tidak rebound juga, ya 
  sudahhe3x.
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Jangan bilang saya tidak kasih tau lho ya 
hehehhe... 






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[obrolan-bandar] Irwan Ariston

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Ricky Dahlan



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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Time to collect ANTM..Emas jatuh ke US$ 680an

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Teddy Halim



Kalau mau consider emas barusan di CNBC Asia udah turun US$ 25 jatuh ke level US$ 680an.. jadi bear marketnya ini meluas kecuali Shanghai SE yg naik lumayan.. (jam 19:10)ANTM secara jangka panjang sih tetap bagus prospeknya.. 
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[obrolan-bandar] IHSG prediction: An ElliottBAH analysis

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Rony Santoso





hebat si Mbah... btw boleh dishare pake itung2an apa untuk 
itung NEGATIVE CAPITAL MOVEMENTnya..

sekalian buat pembelajaran bagi kita2

thanks
Rony


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obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSubject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG 
prediction: An ElliottBAH analysis
NEGATIVE CAPITAL MOVEMENT pada wave 5 SEBELUM IHSG JATUH 
terDITEKSIama ilmu BANDARMOLOGI embah. ulangi SEBELUM!!! yaitu saat IHSG 
masih 1553. DetIk ini tinggal 1470 ATAU UDAH DOWN -83 POINT...Hanya 
embah yg JAUH JAUH BILANG INI REKAYASA INDEX !!!--- In 
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant" jsx-[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote: 09:50 IHSG -36   Teknik 
ELLIOTTBAH membuktikan kesakTiannya DIPREDIKSI PERTAMA !!!   
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jsx- consultant@ wrote:   ENNGGA SALAH 
TUH, PREOPENING -19,2 !!!  --- In 
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx-consultant jsx-  
consultant@ wrote: IHSG prediction: An 
ElliottBAH analysis  The analysis BELOWS is 
based on a Multidimensional Analysis using   MOFIFIED 
Elliott Wave, Fibonacci dan Bandarmologi.  
Wave Numbering in EllliotBAH technique is NOT based on STRICT   
Elliott   Wave Principle but ADJUSTED to reflect Capital 
Movement. So you   WILLfind that the Wave Number 
is DIFFERENT with the one that isproduced by ELWAVE. 
 These are the SUMMARY of analysis based on 
ElliottBAH analysis:   - Based on Negative Capital Movement in 
the wave 5 period, and the   ABNORMAL burst in 
ENDING DIAGONAL formation, Embah CONCLUDE  that  
 IHSG has completed a five wave impulse wave from 1220 to 1153 
   (in RED color).   - AT THE HIGHER 
WAVE LEVEL, IHSG has completed impulsive wave 3
(in blue) and now IHSG is entering Correction Wave 4.   - 
IHSG will enter a Correction phase with the following CORRECTION 
  TARGET:   - SHORT TERM 
correction target:   - IHSG will 
have SUPPORT at the following level:  
 - Support at 1510 which is 
an intersection of 38,2   
 retracement and 
GREEN LINE bullish suport line.  
 - Next support will be at 
50% and 61% that is at 1497 and   1482.  
 - MEDIUM TERM correction target:  
 - IHSG will retrace to the end of Wave 4 (in 
RED) that is  1440   
 (a 100% retracement) which also near 
the 33,2% retracement
for Higher level Wave 3 (in BLUE) at 1427.  
For next week, let's check whether the subwave of Correction Wave  A 
  is   an impulse or correction to determine whether 
this is a ZIZZAG orother corrective pattern. 
 ...  
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[obrolan-bandar] PETA TEMPUR IHSG (GO....GO....GO)

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik jhon veter












Dear my friend.



Setelah adanya warning di gambar
teknik melipat kertas Jumat kemaren, berikut saya lampirkan peta situasi
pertempuran di JSX per tanggal 15 Mei 2006. terlihat
agak banyak darah yang tertumpah, namun sudah ada pasukan cadangan di beberapa
titik.



Gambar terlampir tetap memperlihatkan arah pasukan besar yang
bergerak maju (trend ke satu), walaupun kemaren ada pasukan kecil (trendline 2)
yang agak ngeloyor pergi meninggalkan barisan (akhirnya tewas
juga kan) ya lumayan
kan bisa
ngetest dimana sih pertahanan lawan. Semoga pasukan utama
mampu menembus rintangan pada saatnya nanti.



Para komandan diminta
merapatkan barisan terutama barisan uangnya J.





Salam tempur 



JV (hehehe)








  
  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Highest Index

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Andri Wijaya



HATI-HATI untuk trader pemula dan amatir, banyakBANDAR yang suka ajak nyangkut, kayak kemaren-kemaren ada yang ngajak inaf, pnbn dan tins dan prediksi senin positif, sekarang khan sudah beda lagi ngomongnya (sudah cuci tangan!)

YANG PENTINGTRADER harus bisa analisis sendiri, kayak kemarenEMBAH danPAK SANTOkirim chart lebih berguna daripada yang ngomongnya ngawur melulu, lama-lamaPUSING juga bacanya jadi langsung DELETE saja, banyak jebakan.

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[obrolan-bandar] Re: KURSUS DASAR TRADING 20 Mei 2006 - Silahkan daftra

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik sheldonnatenberg



pak oskar saya sudah survey alamatnya memang benar gedung cyber 
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[obrolan-bandar] IHSG vs TLKM

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Andri Wijaya



IHSG -96 (6,3%), TLKM -200 (3,3%)
sedangkan rata-rata saham blue chip yang lain turun 9 - 13 persen
PGAS (-9,3%)
BDMN dan ANTM (-10.7%)
BMRI (13%)
apakah artinya BANDAR masih banyak pegang TLKM atau TRADER barangnya sedikit di TLKM
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG vs TLKM

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Eddy Purnomo



Kalau TLKM di minuskan 9%, Index hari inibukan -96 tapi jadi -300. TLKMitu Senjata Pamungkas Mas. Dipakai hanyajika sedang dibutuhkan. Hari inisedang enggak butuh tuh. Wong Enggak pake TLKM aja index sudah bisa diminuskan 96. Hue..he..he..Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:IHSG -96 (6,3%), TLKM -200 (3,3%)  sedangkan rata-rata saham blue chip yang lain turun 9 - 13 persen  PGAS (-9,3%)  BDMN dan ANTM (-10.7%)  BMRI (13%)  apakah artinya BANDAR masih banyak pegang TLKM atau TRADER barangnya sedikit di TLKM  regards
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG vs TLKM

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Oskar Syahbana



Mas Eddy,saya bisa tahu ga ini hitungan -300 ini dari mana? Maklum, saya masih newbie yang masih harus terus belajar :-)On 5/15/06, Eddy Purnomo
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Kalau TLKM di minuskan 9%, Index hari inibukan -96 tapi jadi -300. TLKMitu Senjata Pamungkas Mas. Dipakai hanyajika sedang dibutuhkan. Hari inisedang enggak butuh tuh. Wong Enggak pake TLKM aja index sudah bisa diminuskan 96. 
Hue..he..he..Andri Wijaya 
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  PGAS (-9,3%)  BDMN dan ANTM (-10.7%)  BMRI (13%)  apakah artinya BANDAR masih banyak pegang TLKM atau TRADER barangnya sedikit di TLKM  regards

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Highest Index

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Eddy Purnomo



Hue..he..he.  Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:HATI-HATI untuk trader pemula dan amatir, banyakBANDAR yang suka ajak nyangkut, kayak kemaren-kemaren ada yang ngajak inaf, pnbn dan tins dan prediksi senin positif, sekarang khan sudah beda lagi ngomongnya (sudah cuci tangan!)   YANG PENTINGTRADER harus bisa analisis sendiri, kayak kemarenEMBAH danPAK SANTOkirim chart lebih berguna daripada yang ngomongnya ngawur melulu, lama-lamaPUSING juga bacanya jadi langsung DELETE saja, banyak jebakan.   regards  On 5/15/06, bozz_ku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   WATCH THESE .PTBA,BUMI,BBCA,BBRI,BMRI,BLTA,Shall we buy again?Is it time to buy again Yammy...Pul again...Should we give you more and more Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--Everything you need is oneclick away. Make Yahoo! your home pagenow. http://us.click.yahoo.com/AHchtC/4FxNAA/yQLSAA/zMEolB/TM~-Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG vs TLKM

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik karnoesb



Kalo senjata pamungkasnya dipake buat besok, minusnya  50 lagi 
dong :S


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 Kalau TLKM di minuskan 9%, Index hari ini bukan -96 tapi jadi -
300. TLKM itu Senjata Pamungkas Mas. Dipakai hanya jika sedang 
dibutuhkan. Hari ini sedang enggak butuh tuh. Wong Enggak pake TLKM 
aja index sudah bisa diminuskan 96. 
 
 Hue..he..he..
 
 
 
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 IHSG -96 (6,3%), TLKM -200 (3,3%)
 sedangkan rata-rata saham blue chip yang lain turun 9 - 13 persen
 PGAS (-9,3%)
 BDMN dan ANTM (-10.7%)
 BMRI (13%)
 apakah artinya BANDAR masih banyak pegang TLKM atau TRADER 
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[obrolan-bandar] Skenario Selasa 16 Mei 2006

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik karnoesb



Yang punya barang, siapa yang ngga gemeteran liat index hari ini ?

Wa jg ngga nyangka bisa sampe minus 96, enam persen lebih.

Di akhir pasar sore hari, Rupiah dicolek ke atas shg tutup 9100.

Saat saya menulis, DJ plus tipis paling banyak belasan point.
Bagaimana penutupan DJ hari ini akan berpengaruh ke pasar Asia 
Pasifik besok.

Wa coba tunjukin beberapa skenario :
1. DJ minus besar ( =1%, kelihatannya tidak terjadi)
Nikei , KOSPI, HANGSENG jeblok lagi. IHSG bakal jatuh parah.

2. DJ minus tipis
Pengaruhnya masih jelek buat regional.

3. DJ plus banyak
Regional besok rebound dan berimbas ke BEJ.

4. Rupiah terpuruk dalam esok hari
IHSG bakal nerusin kejatuhan hari ini.

Saya lihat, kemarin dollar rata-rata menguat hampir ke semua mata 
uang 0-1%. Yg menjadi pertanyaan, Rupiah turun terlalu tajam. 
Menurut saya, sebenarnya untuk jangka pendek hal ini tidak masalah 
buat BI (cadangan devisa cukup besar bisa buat mengguyur pasar plus 
dapat gain karena dulu katanya Rp diintervensi agar tidak menguat ke 
8500)
Yg berbahaya adalah kalau pelemahan Rupiah terus berkelanjutan.

Soal Index rata-rata melemah 1 - 3 %. Hangseng minus 400 point, 
singapura juga turun hampir 3%. Tapi IHSG, minus 96pt/6,3%, ini yg 
edan...

Apakah besok rebound ?, let's vote
1. Turun terus, secara teknikal beruang besar masih berkuasa.
2. Penurunan hari ini sudah kelewatan, besok rebound di pertengahan 
sesi 2.
3. Rebound dari pagi hari

Saya sendiri vote skenario 2
Skenario ini bukan memastikan tutup positif, tapi rebound (misal 
minus 30 jadi minus 5) 

Dan 2 key indikator adalah : 
1.USDIDR
2.Index regional let'see tomorrow










  
  
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[obrolan-bandar] JSX Bear ??? Maybe or Sure thing dude.....

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Santo Vibby





Dear P'Thomas, bukannya pesimis, tapi menilai 
angka2 maut IHSG dari tgl2 tersebut terlihat JSX sedang berada di akhir ataupun 
bottom koreksinya, sementara angka maut yg terjadi hari ini merupakan dari awal 
dari koreksinya...

Berdasarkan Dow Theory (saya dulu sempet diajarkan 
dikit2 oleh P' Ruli seorang trader yg trade di komuditas), Saat ini JSX 
kelihatannya barusan / sudah menyelesaikan tahap ke tiganya (Dow theory hanya 
terdiri dari 3 tahap). Which means kemungkinan JSX akan melanjutkan koreksinya 
dengan starting over menyusuri tahap 1 kembali. Dan kemungkinan ngejar lobang 
gap kedua langsung dengan nge skip lobang pertama hehehehe..

Hal ini confirmed dengan volumenya yang lumayan 
besar.. so hati2..

But anyhow, saya coba berpikir secara logic, 
meskipun saya mencium BIG BEAR saat jumat kemaren, tapi saya rada kaget juga 
ternyata yang muncul SUPER BEAR ck..ck..ck.. (sempet makes me melongo campur 
haru) dan kemudian saya agak terganggu dengan dugaan salah satu rekan kita yang 
mengatakan volume tidak mendukung kejatuhan pasar...

Dipikir2 ada benernya, Why ?? Coba track back 
kenaikan super bullish kemaren2... kenaikan rata2 30 Pts selalu didukung oleh 
volume sekitar 3 T-an... sementara kejatuhan hampir 100 pts spt ini hari.. 
volumenya terjadi hanya kisaran 4 T... kan harusnya sekitar 8-9 T itungan diatas 
kertasnya bukan ?? Ada yg bisa bantu saya tjari jawabannya gak 
??

But again... spt istilah P' Wan Al... ente kudu 
perhatiin itu Balok GEDE jatoh dari gunung Es, jangan nekad ditangkep.. bisa 
MUOODARR.

So.. once again... be wise..


Well... tommorow JSX Bear ??? Maybe... mendingan 
nemenin saya nonton dan ngitungin mayat2

Regards

Vibby

Disclaimer : 
Analisa diatas merupakan bahan untuk diskusi 
bersama dalam forum milis, Mohon tidak menanyakan detail lbh jauh melalui JAPRI 
(jalur pribadi) karena tanpa mengurangi rasa hormat, saya mungkinagak 
terbatas untukmelayani satu persatu.
Analisa diatas jg bukan rekomendasi jual atau beli, 
yang nekad silakan tanggung sendiri. 



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
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  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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  ; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 6:01 PM
  Subject: [etradingsecurities] Re: 
  [Wan_AL] Re: [junior_Trader] Biggest daily decline past 5 years
  
  Sekedar angka-2 maut IHSG:
  
  Tgl 29/8/05 IHSG -5.16%
  Tgl 30/8/05 IHSG +4.53%
  
  Tgl 17/5/04 IHSG -7.50%
  Tgl 18/5/04 IHSG +1.15%
  Tgl 19/5/04 IHSG +4.53%
  Tgl. 21/5/04 IHSG +2.57%
  
  Jadi kalau besok atau lusa tidak rebound juga, ya 
  sudahhe3x.
  

  




  
  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Skenario Selasa 16 Mei 2006

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Teddy Halim



DOW JONES INDUS. AVG
11,388.037.04
0.06%11:36



SP 500 INDEX1,291.240.00
0.00%11:36


NASDAQ COMPOSITE INDEX
2,235.70-8.08
-0.36%11:36Jam 11:36 waktu sono ( 22:36 BBIB)baru naik tipis sessi 1





  
  
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG prediction: An ElliottBAH analysis

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik A3K












Mangkanya gua juga binun baca ulasan mbah
pake bahasa ingris,

Eh, rupanya ada ambil manfaat dari sini
 laen kali coro
jowo wae mbah

Dasar wedus gembel ..
percaya gak percaya sih, 



Hi hi hi . 



A3K











From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jsx-consultant
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 4:53 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com;
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; saham@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re:
IHSG prediction: An ElliottBAH analysis







   (a 100% retracement)
which also near the 33,2% retracement
   for Higher level Wave 3 (in
BLUE) at 1427.

IHSG close di 1429,5 atau selisih -2,5 point dengan 33,2 retracement di
1427

Apakah teknik ElliottBAH ini cuman KEBETULAN doang. ?

Note:
- Terlampir grafik ElliotBAH yang terbaru


jsx_consultant wrote:

 NEGATIVE CAPITAL MOVEMENT pada wave 5 SEBELUM IHSG JATUH terDITEKSI
 ama ilmu BANDARMOLOGI embah. ulangi SEBELUM!!! yaitu saat IHSG masih
 1553. DetIk ini tinggal 1470 ATAU UDAH DOWN -83 POINT...

 Hanya embah yg JAUH JAUH BILANG INI REKAYASA INDEX !!!

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
jsx_consultant jsx-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  09:50 IHSG -36
 
 
  Teknik ELLIOTTBAH membuktikan kesakTiannya DIPREDIKSI PERTAMA !!!
 
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
jsx_consultant jsx-
  consultant@ wrote:
  
   ENNGGA SALAH TUH, PREOPENING -19,2 !!!
  
  
   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
jsx-consultant jsx-
   consultant@ wrote:
   
IHSG prediction: An ElliottBAH analysis
   
The analysis BELOWS is based on a Multidimensional Analysis
 using
MOFIFIED Elliott Wave, Fibonacci dan Bandarmologi.
   
Wave Numbering in EllliotBAH technique is NOT based on
STRICT
   Elliott
Wave Principle but ADJUSTED to reflect Capital Movement. So
you
   WILL
find that the Wave Number is DIFFERENT with the one that is
produced by ELWAVE.
   
These are the SUMMARY of analysis based on ElliottBAH
analysis:
- Based on Negative Capital Movement in the wave 5 period,
and
 the
ABNORMAL burst in ENDING DIAGONAL formation,
Embah CONCLUDE
  that
IHSG has completed a five wave impulse wave
from 1220 to 1153
(in RED color).
- AT THE HIGHER WAVE LEVEL, IHSG has completed impulsive
wave 3
(in blue) and now IHSG is entering
Correction Wave 4.
- IHSG will enter a Correction phase with the following
 CORRECTION
TARGET:
- SHORT TERM correction target:
- IHSG will have SUPPORT at
the following level:
- Support
at 1510 which is an intersection of 38,2
   
retracement and GREEN LINE bullish suport line.
- Next
support will be at 50% and 61% that is at 1497
 and
   1482.
- MEDIUM TERM correction target:
- IHSG will retrace to the
end of Wave 4 (in RED) that is
  1440
(a 100% retracement)
which also near the 33,2%
 retracement
for Higher level Wave 3
(in BLUE) at 1427.
   
For next week, let's check whether the subwave of
Correction
 Wave
  A
   is
an impulse or correction to determine whether this is a
ZIZZAG
 or
other corrective pattern.
   
...
   













  
  
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG prediction: An ElliottBAH analysis

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik A3K












Mangkanya gua juga binun baca ulasan mbah
pake bahasa ingris,

Eh, rupanya ada ambil manfaat dari sini
 laen kali coro
jowo wae mbah

Dasar wedus gembel
.. percaya gak percaya sih, 



Hi hi hi . 



A3K











From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jsx-consultant
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 4:53 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com;
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; saham@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re:
IHSG prediction: An ElliottBAH analysis







 
 (a 100% retracement) which also near
the 33,2% retracement
   for Higher level Wave 3 (in
BLUE) at 1427.

IHSG close di 1429,5 atau selisih -2,5 point dengan 33,2 retracement di
1427

Apakah teknik ElliottBAH ini cuman KEBETULAN doang. ?

Note:
- Terlampir grafik ElliotBAH yang terbaru


jsx_consultant wrote:

 NEGATIVE CAPITAL MOVEMENT pada wave 5 SEBELUM IHSG JATUH terDITEKSI
 ama ilmu BANDARMOLOGI embah. ulangi SEBELUM!!! yaitu saat IHSG masih
 1553. DetIk ini tinggal 1470 ATAU UDAH DOWN -83 POINT...

 Hanya embah yg JAUH JAUH BILANG INI REKAYASA INDEX !!!

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
jsx_consultant jsx-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  09:50 IHSG -36
 
 
  Teknik ELLIOTTBAH membuktikan kesakTiannya DIPREDIKSI PERTAMA !!!
 
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
jsx_consultant jsx-
  consultant@ wrote:
  
   ENNGGA SALAH TUH, PREOPENING -19,2 !!!
  
  
   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
jsx-consultant jsx-
   consultant@ wrote:
   
IHSG prediction: An ElliottBAH analysis
   
The analysis BELOWS is based on a Multidimensional Analysis
 using
MOFIFIED Elliott Wave, Fibonacci dan Bandarmologi.
   
Wave Numbering in EllliotBAH technique is NOT based on
STRICT
   Elliott
Wave Principle but ADJUSTED to reflect Capital Movement. So
you
   WILL
find that the Wave Number is DIFFERENT with the one that is
produced by ELWAVE.
   
These are the SUMMARY of analysis based on ElliottBAH
analysis:
- Based on Negative Capital Movement in the wave 5 period,
and
 the
ABNORMAL burst in ENDING DIAGONAL formation,
Embah CONCLUDE
  that
IHSG has completed a five wave impulse wave
from 1220 to 1153
(in RED color).
- AT THE HIGHER WAVE LEVEL, IHSG has completed impulsive
wave 3
(in blue) and now IHSG is entering
Correction Wave 4.
- IHSG will enter a Correction phase with the following
 CORRECTION
TARGET:
- SHORT TERM correction target:
- IHSG will have SUPPORT at
the following level:
- Support
at 1510 which is an intersection of 38,2
   
retracement and GREEN LINE bullish suport line.
- Next
support will be at 50% and 61% that is at 1497
 and
   1482.
- MEDIUM TERM correction target:
- IHSG will retrace to the
end of Wave 4 (in RED) that is
  1440
(a 100% retracement)
which also near the 33,2%
 retracement
for Higher level Wave 3
(in BLUE) at 1427.
   
For next week, let's check whether the subwave of
Correction
 Wave
  A
   is
an impulse or correction to determine whether this is a
ZIZZAG
 or
other corrective pattern.
   
...
   








  




  
  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [Wan_AL] Re: [junior_Trader] Biggest daily decline past 5 years

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Triwira Juniarta






Mending kita buat sesajen untuk ANTM anda pak Glen.. hehehehehe
buat saya juga... sih... hiks..

Glenardo Jopie wrote:

  
  
  mari kita buat sesajen ke si Bozz n
si Mbah..Agar cerita ini terulang kembali.Atau rame2 kirim sms ke pak
SBY!!!Biar Mr Boediono di tgor!!he3x..GBU
  
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past 5 years


Sekedar angka-2 maut IHSG:

Tgl 29/8/05 IHSG -5.16%
Tgl 30/8/05 IHSG +4.53%

Tgl 17/5/04 IHSG -7.50%
Tgl 18/5/04 IHSG +1.15%
Tgl 19/5/04 IHSG +4.53%
Tgl. 21/5/04 IHSG +2.57%

Jadi kalau besok atau lusa tidak rebound juga, ya
sudahhe3x.

Santo Vibby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

  
  
  Jangan bilang saya tidak kasih
tau lho ya hehehhe... 
  
  
  
  
  
  
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Sent:
Monday, May 15, 2006 3:41 PM
Subject:
Re: [junior_Trader] Biggest daily decline past 5 years


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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Highest Index

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Triwira Juniarta






Trims pak Andri, untung juga saya ga kebagian cuci piring yang kotor
banget nih...

Andri Wijaya wrote:

  HATI-HATI untuk trader pemula dan amatir, banyakBANDAR yang
suka ajak nyangkut, kayak kemaren-kemaren ada yang ngajak inaf, pnbn
dan tins dan prediksi senin positif, sekarang khan sudah beda lagi
ngomongnya (sudah cuci tangan!)
  
  YANG PENTINGTRADER harus bisa analisis sendiri, kayak
kemarenEMBAH danPAK SANTOkirim chart lebih berguna daripada yang
ngomongnya ngawur melulu, lama-lamaPUSING juga bacanya jadi langsung
DELETE saja, banyak jebakan.
  
  regards
  

  On 5/15/06, bozz_ku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  WATCH
THESE .
PTBA,
BUMI,
BBCA,
BBRI,
BMRI,
BLTA,

Shall we buy again?
Is it time to buy again

Yammy...
Pul again...

Should we give you more and more








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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Skenario Selasa 16 Mei 2006

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Triwira Juniarta






saya sendiri vote untuk pilihan 1 bung...
the bearish masih akan berlanjut... tapi tipis... 

karnoesb wrote:
Yang punya
barang, siapa yang ngga gemeteran liat index hari ini ?
  
Wa jg ngga nyangka bisa sampe minus 96, enam persen lebih.
  
Di akhir pasar sore hari, Rupiah dicolek ke atas shg tutup 9100.
  
Saat saya menulis, DJ plus tipis paling banyak belasan point.
Bagaimana penutupan DJ hari ini akan berpengaruh ke pasar Asia 
Pasifik besok.
  
Wa coba tunjukin beberapa skenario :
1. DJ minus besar ( =1%, kelihatannya tidak terjadi)
Nikei , KOSPI, HANGSENG jeblok lagi. IHSG bakal jatuh parah.
  
2. DJ minus tipis
Pengaruhnya masih jelek buat regional.
  
3. DJ plus banyak
Regional besok rebound dan berimbas ke BEJ.
  
4. Rupiah terpuruk dalam esok hari
IHSG bakal nerusin kejatuhan hari ini.
  
Saya lihat, kemarin dollar rata-rata menguat hampir ke semua mata 
uang 0-1%. Yg menjadi pertanyaan, Rupiah turun terlalu tajam. 
Menurut saya, sebenarnya untuk jangka pendek hal ini tidak masalah 
buat BI (cadangan devisa cukup besar bisa buat mengguyur pasar plus 
dapat gain karena dulu katanya Rp diintervensi agar tidak menguat ke 
8500)
Yg berbahaya adalah kalau pelemahan Rupiah terus berkelanjutan.
  
Soal Index rata-rata melemah 1 - 3 %. Hangseng minus 400 point, 
singapura juga turun hampir 3%. Tapi IHSG, minus 96pt/6,3%, ini yg 
edan...
  
Apakah besok rebound ?, let's vote
1. Turun terus, secara teknikal beruang besar masih berkuasa.
2. Penurunan hari ini sudah kelewatan, besok rebound di pertengahan 
sesi 2.
3. Rebound dari pagi hari
  
Saya sendiri vote skenario 2
Skenario ini bukan memastikan tutup positif, tapi rebound (misal 
minus 30 jadi minus 5) 
  
Dan 2 key indikator adalah : 
1.USDIDR
2.Index regional let'see tomorrow
  
  
  
  
  








  
  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Highest Index

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Halim Mintareja





Ternyata bukan cuman saya yang lihat orang frustasi 
:))

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Triwira 
  Juniarta 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 1:01 AM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Highest 
  Index
  Trims pak Andri, untung juga saya ga kebagian cuci piring yang 
  kotor banget nih...Andri Wijaya wrote: 
  
HATI-HATI untuk trader pemula dan amatir, banyakBANDAR yang suka 
ajak nyangkut, kayak kemaren-kemaren ada yang ngajak inaf, pnbn dan tins dan 
prediksi senin positif, sekarang khan sudah beda lagi ngomongnya (sudah cuci 
tangan!) 
YANG PENTINGTRADER harus bisa analisis sendiri, kayak 
kemarenEMBAH danPAK SANTOkirim chart lebih berguna 
daripada yang ngomongnya ngawur melulu, lama-lamaPUSING juga bacanya 
jadi langsung DELETE saja, banyak jebakan. 
regards
On 5/15/06, bozz_ku [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote: 
WATCH 
  THESE 
  .PTBA,BUMI,BBCA,BBRI,BMRI,BLTA,Shall 
  we buy again?Is it time to buy again 
  Yammy...Pul again...Should we give you 
  more and 
  more 
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Highest Index

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Aria Bela Nusa











 Setahu
saya :




Push = menekan (ke bawah)


Pull = mendorong



So



:) Setuju juga 
oentoeng saya tak ambil untung dulu sebelonnya - shg untung2 (pelatih
tidak panggil ke luar lap)...





-Original
Message-
From:
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Triwira Juniarta
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006
1:02 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar]
Highest Index



Trims pak Andri, untung
juga saya ga kebagian cuci piring yang kotor banget nih...

Andri Wijaya wrote: 



HATI-HATI untuk trader
pemula dan amatir, banyakBANDAR yang suka ajak nyangkut, kayak
kemaren-kemaren ada yang ngajak inaf, pnbn dan tins dan prediksi senin positif,
sekarang khan sudah beda lagi ngomongnya (sudah cuci tangan!) 





YANG PENTINGTRADER
harus bisa analisis sendiri, kayak kemarenEMBAH danPAK
SANTOkirim chart lebih berguna daripada yang ngomongnya ngawur melulu,
lama-lamaPUSING juga bacanya jadi langsung DELETE saja, banyak jebakan. 





regards







On
5/15/06, bozz_ku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


WATCH THESE .
PTBA,
BUMI,
BBCA,
BBRI,
BMRI,
BLTA,

Shall we buy again?
Is it time to buy again 
Yammy...
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Skenario Selasa 16 Mei 2006

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Bettina Tan



Based on Bloomberg, today Dow up 47.78 as oil price close below 70 and metal, gold prices slump easing the inflation pressure. DJI tomorrow expected to behigher, more earning estimates are expected. Today WalMart earnings beat the analyst estimate.



  




  
  
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[obrolan-bandar] SPECIAL TO P. ANDRI WIJAYA….

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik oentoeng_q



Sebelumnya saya tidak ingin BERPOLEMIK…tetapi saya ingin mengucapkan 
TERIMAKASIH atas KRITIKAN Bapak! Bagaimanapun komentar Bapak benar 
adanya; dalam artian memang untuk mengingatkan saya. Terus terang 
saja kemarin saya TERLALU SOMBONG, PONGAH,….sesuatu hal yang TIDAK 
PATUT DICONTOH. 
Sehingga tidak bisa membaca TANDA ALAM bahwa hari Senin akan DROP 
banyak. Saya akui saya SEMPAT BERPIKIR akan ada REBOUND di hari 
Senin atau Selasa. Bahkan saya sempat CHATTING dengan teman2 di sini 
kalau saya masih yakin akan rebound….
Ini semua karena TELINGA saya TULI terhadap BUNYI LONCENG KEMATIAN...
Ya begitulah manusia, saya yang masih muda ini PENUH KETERBATASAN 
dalam EMOSI dan KEBIJAKSANAAN…sehingga masih perlu banyak BELAJAR 
dari Mbah, SUHU, BOZZ dan senior2 OB yg lainnya.

Tapi di satu sisi saya mohon kesempatan untuk MEMBELA DIRI kalau 
masih ada yg berpikir bahwa saya BANDAR, saya punya BANYAK BARANG 
yang NYANGKUT di atas; sehingga saya MENYURUH-NYURUH orang lain 
untuk MEMBELI…..???
Tolong ANDA lihat ke belakang komentar2 saya…..tentang:
1. BATTLE ZONE….
Kalau setiap anggota milis OB mampu MEMANFAATKAN dengan BAIK 
berapa banyak SAHAM yang LULUS di ZONE 200, 500, 600-700, 1000, 
2000 ??
Tidak 1-5 SAHAM pak! Puluhan pak!
2. Saya tidak bermaksud MENGULANG-NGULANG,…..ANDA bisa lihat 
rekomendasi saya ttg PTBA….masih di 1800 Pak! Ketika belum ada yang 
ramai begini, pinter2 seperti saat ini….Kalau mau ditarik ke 
belakang saya masih banyak punya teman cost PTBA harga 650!!!
Anda tahu PTBA-W…harga EXPIRED DATE….berapa? Anda percaya kalau yang 
kenal secara pribadi di sini dengan saya; tahu kalau saya IKUT 
MEMBAWA dari harga 20 perak ke 1000 lebih!!! 
3. Bicara BMRI; ketika masih 1930 saya ngajak teknik LOETOENG 
KASARUNG BERGELAYUTAN dengan asumsi akan kembali ke 2000 bahkan 
LEBIH. Saat itu langsung digelontor ke 1870…..tapi anda bisa lihat 
akhirnya bisa MENJEBOL ke 2000 bahkan ke 2325. Pertanyaannya: Siapa 
yang MENJEBOL SEDAHSYAT seperti itu Apakah BOZZ? Apakah 
Loetoeng2? Apakah salah satu kawan baik kita yg bicara di RADIO di 
JKT; setelah itu BERHASIL sempat ditahbiskan sbg analis 
selebritis? Terakhir masalah BMRI,…..siapa anggota milis yang TAHU 
kalau BMRI kemarin TIDAK AKAN membentuk CUP and HANDLE Berapa 
banyak di milis TETANGGA yg percaya akan membentuk Cup and Handle? 
Menang mana Omong Doang dengan Minggat Loe? Sekali lagi secara TA 
sekarang BMRI membentuk apa? ISLAND GAP. Apakah anda tahu 
SIAPA OD yang GELONTOR terus2an di BMRI Siapa para KORBAN di 
ISLAND GAP??? Anda lihat komentar saya BERULANG-ULANG mewanti-wanti 
jangan DEKATI BMRI ketika harga masih 2250-2300!

Kembali ke pokok persoalan…kenapa saya KELIHATAN ingin MENJEBAK 
begitu banyak KAWAN BAIK ke dalam INAF, TINS, PNBN….??? Saya sudah 
berkali-kali mohon jangan diperhatikan, biarkan NGOCEH sendiri. 
Karena saya ingin BELAJAR sebagai INVESTOR. Artinya saya 
punya VIEW PRIBADI terhadap 3 saham itu. Berarti saya punya 
pandangan 6 bahkan 12 bulan MENDATANG….3 saham tersebut punya 
PROSPEK. Kalau VIEW saya salah saya akan MENGAKUI bahwa saya ini 
seorang ANALIS GOMBAL. Bukan analis tapi ngaku-ngaku….padahal cuma 
pegawai rendahan di sebuah kantor kecil di kota kecil, lengkap kan. 
Tolong anda simpan TULISAN ini jangan di DELETE….2-3 bulan mendatang 
apakah saya bisa SELAMAT??? Keluar dengan COST untuk INAF 105, TINS 
2300 dan PNBN 500…..? Saya akan akui kalau saya salah!?
Sekarang juga JANGAN DI DELETE kalau saya MENGINGATKAN anda bahwa 
IDR akan terus ke 10.000 bahkan LEBIH dalam waktu dekat ini…..
Kita lihat apakah saya MEMBUAL

Buat pak Andri Wijaya…..sekali lagi terimakasih banyak atas 
PERHATIANNYA…..
Karena kesombongan sehingga membuat saya LUPA DIRI dan KHILAF, tidak 
sadar kalau begitu banyak orang yang menyayangi saya, padahal Mbah 
telah mengingatkan saya untuk TIDAK MENAIKI BERUANG LAPAR, P. Vibby 
yang telah menunggu MAYAT2 para TRADER…..untuk teman2 yang lain dan 
para SENIOR saya selalu tunggu PERHATIANNYA…….
Terimakasih Mbah atas kesempatan yang diberikan.






  




  
  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG vs TLKM

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Andri Wijaya



ngawur, makanya kalau ndak ngerti jangan asal tulis. artinya bandar masih punya banyak barang di TLKM. bagaimana mungkin index mau dihancurkan sampai -300 lah -100 saja sudah banyak mayat yang bergelimpangan.
regards
On 5/15/06, Eddy Purnomo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Kalau TLKM di minuskan 9%, Index hari inibukan -96 tapi jadi -300. TLKMitu Senjata Pamungkas Mas. Dipakai hanyajika sedang dibutuhkan. Hari inisedang enggak butuh tuh. Wong Enggak pake TLKM aja index sudah bisa diminuskan 96. 


Hue..he..he..


Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

IHSG -96 (6,3%), TLKM -200 (3,3%)
sedangkan rata-rata saham blue chip yang lain turun 9 - 13 persen
PGAS (-9,3%)
BDMN dan ANTM (-10.7%)
BMRI (13%)
apakah artinya BANDAR masih banyak pegang TLKM atau TRADER barangnya sedikit di TLKM
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] GLOBALISASI BANDARISME....

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Sjaiful Bahri



Pak Oentoeng, kalau masuk bawa portofolio langsung
gede emang bahaya, justru saat ini harusnya masuk
karena sudah minus 8% dari Jumat kemaren, cuma
masuknya jangan banyak2, hari pertama (hari ini) 10%
dari dana portofolio, hari kedua 10% dst... lebih
aman..., kalau 3x masuk makin parah berhenti dulu :-)


cheers
iful


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 GLOBALISASI BANDARISME...or...BANDARISME GLOBAL?
 
 Per-BANDAR-an Global...mungkin ini yang pernah
 dikemukan secara 
 imaginatif oleh Mbah
 
 1. Yang jelas CRASH hari ini bukan BY RUMOR, BY
 ACCIDENT, BY NEWS, 
 or BYE..BYE..ala FUND MANAGER OUT FROM EMERGING
 MARKET
 Karena terjadi BERSAMAAN dengan REGIONAL
 Yang saya sampai GELENG-GELENG kepala...BISA-BISAnya
 bareng MERAPI 
 MELETUS, FIX INCOME CRASH (2%),IDR-USD...PROFIT
 TAKING???
 Seperti saya bilang tadi bahwa ada kemungkinan
 penurunan sd 70 
 point,..ternyata 96 point dan bikin es lilin
 penuh. Menandakan 
 bahwa PASTI besok masih turun...Rabu
 reboundJum'at turun lagi..
 Kalau acara ini benarJADI NGGAK USAH TANYA2 ke
 teman yg LAIN! 
 Karena sama TIDAK TAHU-nya NGGAK usah tanya2,
 Hehehe
 Coba kita lihat AGENDA BOZZ...bahwa PENURUNAN TAJAM,
 SANGAT BESAR 
 hanya akan DITUNJUKKAN HARI INI! Minimal untuk
 minggu ini kita TIDAK 
 akan melihat yg seperti hari ini lagi
 ARTINYA...kalau semua acara di atas terjadi...semua
 INDEKS 
 NAIK/TURUN seperti kata Mbah tak lain tak bukan
 INDEX ENGINEERING!
 2. Kalau kita lihat IDR-USD...dalam satu hari bisa
 MELOMPAT seperti 
 hari ini. Berarti:
 MARI KITA PERCAYA BAHWA IDR AKAN KEMBALI KE 10.000
 DULU!!!
 AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
 ARTINYAIndeks akan dibawa TURUN TERUS dengan
 INDIKATOR IDR-USD.
 Tidak usah mendengarkan KI KA yg ngomong ada ANU ada
 
 INI...ANU..ANU
 Kita lihat aja apa ngomong-nya Analis selebritis
 Pengamat...dll
 Kan sudah saya WARNING,..kan sudah saya bilang
 Indeks naik terlalu 
 tinggi...ANU..ANU..ANU..
 Berani TARUHAN??
 3. Mulai sekarang KITA HARUS lebih BERHATI2 karena
 kalau KEMARIN 
 ASII, BBCA, BBRI, (persahaman)...mulai
 DIGERGAJI...berarti mulai 
 HARI INI...Indeks BEJ..SINYAL MULAI DIGERGAJI!
 Berarti TIDAK SALAH 
 kalau di milis OB berlaku bulan MEI adalah BULAN
 GERGAJI NASIONAL
 4. Dalam hal ini saya ikut BEREMPATI buat teman2 OB
 yang TIDAK 
 SEMPAT merasakan CUAN ketika 1000-1550 sekarang
 mulai BERBALIK 
 ARAH...ikut BOENTOENGingat nyari DUIT; susah
 jaman 
 sekarang...ATI2 kalau mau TERUS BERMAIN di BEJ.
 
 
 NOTE: Ingat selalu WARNING dari Mbah...tentang DEAD
 JSX...kelihatan 
 apapun ALASANNYAsaham BAGUS...apalagi SAHAM
 JELEK...TURUN 
 TERUS...karena apa...IDR turun...TERUSSS 
 Yang Naikhanya yang mau IKUT BOZZya nggak
 BOZZ 
 
 
 Salam
 
 
 
 
 
 


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[obrolan-bandar] Re: GLOBALISASI BANDARISME....

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik oentoeng_q



Rebound beneran mungkin minggu depan pak...
Tapi tolong lihat IDR akan DIKEREKK TERUSS

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Sjaiful Bahri [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Pak Oentoeng, kalau masuk bawa portofolio langsung
 gede emang bahaya, justru saat ini harusnya masuk
 karena sudah minus 8% dari Jumat kemaren, cuma
 masuknya jangan banyak2, hari pertama (hari ini) 10%
 dari dana portofolio, hari kedua 10% dst... lebih
 aman..., kalau 3x masuk makin parah berhenti dulu :-)
 
 
 cheers
 iful
 
 
 --- oentoeng_q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  GLOBALISASI BANDARISME...or...BANDARISME GLOBAL?
  
  Per-BANDAR-an Global...mungkin ini yang pernah
  dikemukan secara 
  imaginatif oleh Mbah
  
  1. Yang jelas CRASH hari ini bukan BY RUMOR, BY
  ACCIDENT, BY NEWS, 
  or BYE..BYE..ala FUND MANAGER OUT FROM EMERGING
  MARKET
  Karena terjadi BERSAMAAN dengan REGIONAL
  Yang saya sampai GELENG-GELENG kepala...BISA-BISAnya
  bareng MERAPI 
  MELETUS, FIX INCOME CRASH (2%),IDR-USD...PROFIT
  TAKING???
  Seperti saya bilang tadi bahwa ada kemungkinan
  penurunan sd 70 
  point,..ternyata 96 point dan bikin es lilin
  penuh. Menandakan 
  bahwa PASTI besok masih turun...Rabu
  reboundJum'at turun lagi..
  Kalau acara ini benarJADI NGGAK USAH TANYA2 ke
  teman yg LAIN! 
  Karena sama TIDAK TAHU-nya NGGAK usah tanya2,
  Hehehe
  Coba kita lihat AGENDA BOZZ...bahwa PENURUNAN TAJAM,
  SANGAT BESAR 
  hanya akan DITUNJUKKAN HARI INI! Minimal untuk
  minggu ini kita TIDAK 
  akan melihat yg seperti hari ini lagi
  ARTINYA...kalau semua acara di atas terjadi...semua
  INDEKS 
  NAIK/TURUN seperti kata Mbah tak lain tak bukan
  INDEX ENGINEERING!
  2. Kalau kita lihat IDR-USD...dalam satu hari bisa
  MELOMPAT seperti 
  hari ini. Berarti:
  MARI KITA PERCAYA BAHWA IDR AKAN KEMBALI KE 10.000
  DULU!!!
  AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
  ARTINYAIndeks akan dibawa TURUN TERUS dengan
  INDIKATOR IDR-USD.
  Tidak usah mendengarkan KI KA yg ngomong ada ANU ada
  
  INI...ANU..ANU
  Kita lihat aja apa ngomong-nya Analis selebritis
  Pengamat...dll
  Kan sudah saya WARNING,..kan sudah saya bilang
  Indeks naik terlalu 
  tinggi...ANU..ANU..ANU..
  Berani TARUHAN??
  3. Mulai sekarang KITA HARUS lebih BERHATI2 karena
  kalau KEMARIN 
  ASII, BBCA, BBRI, (persahaman)...mulai
  DIGERGAJI...berarti mulai 
  HARI INI...Indeks BEJ..SINYAL MULAI DIGERGAJI!
  Berarti TIDAK SALAH 
  kalau di milis OB berlaku bulan MEI adalah BULAN
  GERGAJI NASIONAL
  4. Dalam hal ini saya ikut BEREMPATI buat teman2 OB
  yang TIDAK 
  SEMPAT merasakan CUAN ketika 1000-1550 sekarang
  mulai BERBALIK 
  ARAH...ikut BOENTOENGingat nyari DUIT; susah
  jaman 
  sekarang...ATI2 kalau mau TERUS BERMAIN di BEJ.
  
  
  NOTE: Ingat selalu WARNING dari Mbah...tentang DEAD
  JSX...kelihatan 
  apapun ALASANNYAsaham BAGUS...apalagi SAHAM
  JELEK...TURUN 
  TERUS...karena apa...IDR turun...TERUSSS 
  Yang Naikhanya yang mau IKUT BOZZya nggak
  BOZZ 
  
  
  Salam
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: GLOBALISASI BANDARISME....

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik www.titan




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Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG vs TLKM

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik indonesian trader



saya sering perhatikan, setiap penurunan/kenaikan
saham tlkm 1 poin(50 perak), akan menyebabkan indeks
naik/turun 2 poin.Thanks

Rgds,
--- Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis:

 ngawur, makanya kalau ndak ngerti jangan asal tulis.
 artinya bandar masih
 punya banyak barang di TLKM. bagaimana mungkin index
 mau dihancurkan sampai
 -300 lah -100 saja sudah banyak mayat yang
 bergelimpangan.
 regards
 
 
 On 5/15/06, Eddy Purnomo
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Kalau TLKM di minuskan 9%, Index hari ini bukan
 -96 tapi jadi -300.
  TLKM itu Senjata Pamungkas Mas. Dipakai hanya jika
 sedang dibutuhkan. Hari
  ini sedang enggak butuh tuh. Wong Enggak pake TLKM
 aja index sudah bisa
  diminuskan 96.
 
  Hue..he..he..
 
 
 
  *Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:
 
  IHSG -96 (6,3%), TLKM -200 (3,3%)
  sedangkan rata-rata saham blue chip yang lain
 turun 9 - 13 persen
  PGAS (-9,3%)
  BDMN dan ANTM (-10.7%)
  BMRI (13%)
  apakah artinya BANDAR masih banyak pegang TLKM
 atau TRADER barangnya
  sedikit di TLKM
  regards
 
 
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RE: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG vs TLKM

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Abah










Dulu di s/w nya iknen ada simulasi untuk
ngitung inex.











From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of indonesian trader
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 9:15
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Subject: Balasan: Re:
[obrolan-bandar] IHSG vs TLKM





saya sering perhatikan, setiap penurunan/kenaikan
saham tlkm 1 poin(50 perak), akan menyebabkan indeks
naik/turun 2 poin.Thanks

Rgds,
--- Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis:

 ngawur, makanya kalau ndak ngerti jangan asal tulis.
 artinya bandar masih
 punya banyak barang di TLKM. bagaimana mungkin index
 mau dihancurkan sampai
 -300 lah -100 saja sudah banyak mayat yang
 bergelimpangan.
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  Kalau TLKM di minuskan 9%, Index hari ini bukan
 -96 tapi jadi -300.
  TLKM itu Senjata Pamungkas Mas. Dipakai hanya jika
 sedang dibutuhkan. Hari
  ini sedang enggak butuh tuh. Wong Enggak pake TLKM
 aja index sudah bisa
  diminuskan 96.
 
  Hue..he..he..
 
 
 
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  IHSG -96 (6,3%), TLKM -200 (3,3%)
  sedangkan rata-rata saham blue chip yang lain
 turun 9 - 13 persen
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[obrolan-bandar] mata air di tengah gurun

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik indonesian trader



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Balasan: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Skenario Selasa 16 Mei 2006

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik indonesian trader



setuju pak BUSUR.yg penting harus
disipli...disiplin.disiplin.

Salam,
--- budi suryono [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis:

 yang pasti kabur sekenceng kencengnya he..he..
 
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 Jadi pengen komentar. 
 Di BEJ selalu terjadi yg luar biasa. Indeks naik
 tinggi banget. turunnya dalem banget. Dari mbah sdh
 ada bayangan. Ini mo turun sampe 38%. Maunya sy
 turunnya pelan2. ternyata kagak. Kirain hari jumat
 Cuma pengaruh minyak doang. Hari senen minyak turun
 inex bakalan rebound eh ternyata inex terjun. Ruar
 biasa. 
 Jadi inget peristiwa lpli. Lippo e-net. Dll. 
 Naik tinggi banget lalu di banting. Waktu itu Cuma
 bilang, ya gitu kalo gorengan. Tanda2 gorengan
 adalah harga saham murah dan jumlahnya dikit. Nha
 sekarang inex, idr jadi gorengan. Ruar biasa
 bandarnya.
 Dari sisi TA. Harusnya sy jatuh dikit dan gak
 lecet. Sayang kagak disiplin. Waktu hari jumat, sy
 call, gimana ptba dan blta ? soalnya mo jualan nih.
 Eh dibilang jangan, masih kuat. Kan fundamentalnya
 kuat. Hari senen, waktu mo jualan, dibilang gitu
 juga, masih kuat. waktunya beli bukan jualan. gw
 bilang kagak ada urusan kuat2 an, jual sekarang ntar
 gw beli lagi. Jadi deh berdarah, tapi darah karena
 lecet. 
 Gimana pengalamannya pak Bu Sur dan rekan2 yg
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] SPECIAL TO P. ANDRI WIJAYA….

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Rudi Har



Memang bagi seorang trader, tidak boleh percaya begitu saja apa kata
orang. Analisa orang lain hanya sebagai masukan saja untuk diolah
kembali sebelum take action. Tidak perduli seberapa akurat analisa
seseorang, tetap saja sangat riskan untuk mengikuti hal itu
bulat-bulat. Karena keakuratan itu adalah kisah kemarin, untuk besok
apapun bisa terjadi. Lagi pula dalam masa-masa bullish seperti kemarin
memang sangat mudah membuat perkiraan yg tepat dan akurat. Kan memang
hampir semua memang saham sedang rally :-) Luar biasa kalau tebakannya
salah mulu saat semua saham sedang paduan suara, alias kompak
rame-rame naik...

Kalau kondisi bursa dalam keadaan sekarang ini, dan bisa menebak mana
yg akan naik sebentar lagi dan mana yg akan turun secara akurat terus,
itu baru luar biasa. Tapi hal ini tidak akan mungkin terjadi.

So let's trade on our own decision...

Peace...

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 direkomendasi pak oentoeng, perlu dilihat TA dan FA supaya maksud investasi
 di saham untuk oentoeng dan mendapat penghasilan tambahan buat anak istri
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[obrolan-bandar] Nanya tentang data provider

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Oskar Syahbana



Halo,

Rekan - rekan ada yang bisa memberikan saya tentang data provider yang
bagus tapi ekonomis? Yang saya perlukan sebenernya data - data End of
day yang bisa diolah pake metastock (atau program lainnya). Kalau ada
yang tahu, tolong diberikan pencerahan.

PS: kalau datanya real-time pun tambah bagus, asal ya itu tadi, ekonomis.

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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Skenario Selasa 16 Mei 2006

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik oentoeng_q



INDEKS - 52
IDR 9330
I HAD TOLD YOU GUYS

ALWAYS FASTEN YOUR SEATBELT...OR STAY AWAY.DO NOTHING!

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 yang pasti kabur sekenceng kencengnya he..he..
 
 Abah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jadi pengen komentar. 
 Di BEJ selalu terjadi yg luar biasa. Indeks naik tinggi banget. 
turunnya dalem banget. Dari mbah sdh ada bayangan. Ini mo turun 
sampe 38%. Maunya sy turunnya pelan2. ternyata kagak. Kirain hari 
jumat Cuma pengaruh minyak doang. Hari senen minyak turun inex 
bakalan rebound eh ternyata inex terjun. Ruar biasa. 
 Jadi inget peristiwa lpli. Lippo e-net. Dll. Naik tinggi 
banget lalu di banting. Waktu itu Cuma bilang, ya gitu kalo 
gorengan. Tanda2 gorengan adalah harga saham murah dan jumlahnya 
dikit. Nha sekarang inex, idr jadi gorengan. Ruar biasa bandarnya.
 Dari sisi TA. Harusnya sy jatuh dikit dan gak lecet. Sayang 
kagak disiplin. Waktu hari jumat, sy call, gimana ptba dan blta ? 
soalnya mo jualan nih. Eh dibilang jangan, masih kuat. Kan 
fundamentalnya kuat. Hari senen, waktu mo jualan, dibilang gitu 
juga, masih kuat. waktunya beli bukan jualan. gw bilang kagak ada 
urusan kuat2 an, jual sekarang ntar gw beli lagi. Jadi deh 
berdarah, tapi darah karena lecet. 
 Gimana pengalamannya pak Bu Sur dan rekan2 yg lain ? 
 
 
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[obrolan-bandar] No subject....

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Danny Martinus





Jadi ingat tahun 1999-2000 dimana pada saat booming 
internet stocks the FED terus menaikan suku bunga secara konsekutif dari sekitar 
4% menjadi 6% yang pada puncaknya menyebabkan trend bearish berkepanjangan pada 
NYSE dan NASDAQ. Pada saat itu NASDAQ sempat mencapai rekor highnya sekitar 5000 
dan sampai saatbelum recover bahkan tidakmencapai setengahnya. Hal 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Skenario Selasa 16 Mei 2006

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Teddy Halim



JCI 1,365.935 4 - 63.607 - 4.440 % vol:1,942.187 B


  




  
  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Skenario Selasa 16 Mei 2006

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik ALX




Nanti sore...
Udah boleh ngintip gak ya???
dari tadi mata ditutup terus nih

Salam



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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Nanya tentang data provider

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Abah










http://www.jsx.co.id/_dl.asp?cmd=dlid=2TODIR=CURDIR=/download_data/daily/Stock_Summary/











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Halo,

Rekan - rekan ada yang bisa memberikan saya tentang data provider yang
bagus tapi ekonomis? Yang saya perlukan sebenernya data - data End of
day yang bisa diolah pake metastock (atau program lainnya). Kalau ada
yang tahu, tolong diberikan pencerahan.

PS: kalau datanya real-time pun tambah bagus, asal ya itu tadi, ekonomis.

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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Poster film horor IHSG tahun ini

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik oentoeng_q



Berani TARUHAN ama saya???
Besok masih ada BALOKama JUm'at...Kamis dikasih ANGIN SURGA
Gimana ANDA?

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rudi Har [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Serremmm...
 2 Balok gede jatuh dari langit. Jangan anggap enteng dgn ukuran 
balok hari ini.
 Balok yg kemarin selisih high low nya = 70, yg sekarang = 73.
 
 Ayo tebakan, berapa balok lagi yg akan jatuh dari langit??
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Poster film horor IHSG tahun ini

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Arthoer



 NIK 16369 -118.1
 DJI 11429 47.78 
STI 2518 -17
JSX 1370 -59.053 
HSI 16369 -125.56 



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Berani TARUHAN ama saya???
Besok masih ada BALOKama JUm'at...Kamis dikasih ANGIN SURGA
Gimana ANDA?

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rudi Har [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Serremmm...
 2 Balok gede jatuh dari langit. Jangan anggap enteng dgn ukuran 
balok hari ini.
 Balok yg kemarin selisih high low nya = 70, yg sekarang = 73.
 
 Ayo tebakan, berapa balok lagi yg akan jatuh dari langit??
 
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RE: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG vs TLKM

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik A3K










Ik Nen cuman ngomong di milis nya Bang
Irwan Napit,

Jadi kalo mau consult, kirim message ke
milis saham

Kalo forum OB
punya pak Irwan Tedja 



Sama2 Irwan tapi bukan family



Rgds / A3K











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Subject: RE: Balasan: Re:
[obrolan-bandar] IHSG vs TLKM





Dulu di s/w nya iknen ada simulasi untuk
ngitung inex.











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Subject: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar]
IHSG vs TLKM





saya sering perhatikan,
setiap penurunan/kenaikan
saham tlkm 1 poin(50 perak), akan menyebabkan indeks
naik/turun 2 poin.Thanks

Rgds,
--- Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis:

 ngawur, makanya kalau ndak ngerti jangan asal tulis.
 artinya bandar masih
 punya banyak barang di TLKM. bagaimana mungkin index
 mau dihancurkan sampai
 -300 lah -100 saja sudah banyak mayat yang
 bergelimpangan.
 regards
 
 
 On 5/15/06, Eddy Purnomo
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Kalau TLKM di minuskan 9%, Index hari ini bukan
 -96 tapi jadi -300.
  TLKM itu Senjata Pamungkas Mas. Dipakai hanya jika
 sedang dibutuhkan. Hari
  ini sedang enggak butuh tuh. Wong Enggak pake TLKM
 aja index sudah bisa
  diminuskan 96.
 
  Hue..he..he..
 
 
 
  *Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:
 
  IHSG -96 (6,3%), TLKM -200 (3,3%)
  sedangkan rata-rata saham blue chip yang lain
 turun 9 - 13 persen
  PGAS (-9,3%)
  BDMN dan ANTM (-10.7%)
  BMRI (13%)
  apakah artinya BANDAR masih banyak pegang TLKM
 atau TRADER barangnya
  sedikit di TLKM
  regards
 
 
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[obrolan-bandar] elliot deui

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Abah










Kurang 15 lagi untuk mencapai 1350. 

Dari elliotwave nya mbah maka wave yg
dipake adalah yg merah. Dan wave koreksi a, b, c sdh terjadi. ( yg mana
ya ?). Sekarang adalah wave 1, yang lagi meluncur dan blon ketemu
terminalnya. Mungkin terminalnya di 1350. wave 2, naik 23.6% atau
38.2% atau 1400  1430. lalu wave 3 turun lagi jadi 1150 (1430 (1.382
* 200). Wave 4 naik jadi 1200 an. Wave 5 turun 200, eh ketemu deh di 1000
an. Lalu sy liat elliot wavenya mbah. He he ketemu di garis 161.8%.
cocok. Gambaran di kepala abah dgn chartnya mbah. Kalo scenario ini maka yg
dipake adalah elliotwave mbah yg biru.

Oh ya kalo kate orang yg ndaki gunung,
kalo naik pelan2 tapi turun gunungnya cepet. Tapi kalo turun gunung
  kan ada batasnya yaitu kaki gunung he he.











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Balasan: RE: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG vs TLKM

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik indonesian trader



ketahuan deh nama aslinya Embah hehe..

Rgds,
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 saya sering perhatikan, setiap penurunan/kenaikan
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   Kalau TLKM di minuskan 9%, Index hari ini bukan
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   TLKM itu Senjata Pamungkas Mas. Dipakai hanya
 jika
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   ini sedang enggak butuh tuh. Wong Enggak pake
 TLKM
  aja index sudah bisa
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   IHSG -96 (6,3%), TLKM -200 (3,3%)
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  turun 9 - 13 persen
   PGAS (-9,3%)
   BDMN dan ANTM (-10.7%)
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   apakah artinya BANDAR masih banyak pegang TLKM
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[obrolan-bandar] Hot Money

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik Hari Anggono



Seperti tulisan saya terdahulu, hot money gak bakal lama ngendon di satu tempat.
Biasanya para fund manager asing memarkir dana kira2 1bln-1th lalu kemudian cabut.

Intervensi pasar BI cuma angin sepoi2 di tengah padang pasir, gak bakal kerasa lama.

Cuma saja saya tak mendoga index bakal jatuh bebas dari 1500-an ke 1300-an dalam 3 hari.
Wedhus tenan  !!

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