Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM.... GO
khan sudah dibilangin dari kemarin2 kalau nggak ngikut yah salah sendiri. Disuruh SHORT nggak mau short giliran disuruh beli juga nggak mau, terus mau apa lagi ... bo hwat kata Ciu Pek Tong. Entar kalau di level 18000 disuruh SHORT lagi pada mikir mau langsung lari ke 25000 kapan belajarnya, giliran ditanya mau ambil posisi apa, jawabnya TRADER, giliran harga naik terus, ganti pikiran, jadi INVESTOR aja. Saat harga turun mikir lagi kenapa yah kemarin disuruh jual nggak jual khan mending jadi TRADER ... lama2 mati sendiri ganti posisi melulu. INCO, kenapa harus diSHORT karena secara TA INCO sudah bukan market mover lagi diganti sama pemain bangku cadangan yang sudah tidur hampir 6 bulan lebih. Di saat IHSG break high, INCO nggak break high artinya untuk sementara INCO hanya jadi setrikaan dulu. Alasan kedua karena chart mining nggak sudah jelek sedang downtrend, jadi mending cari sektor yang lagi uptrend. Semoga bung Andri mendapatkan pencerahan dari tulisan saya ini. On 4/26/07, Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gimana nich pak james, target akhir bulan 17-18 rb yach? tarik bozzz regards
Re: [obrolan-bandar] What's wrong with my BMRI ????
bukan cuma BMRI, semua sektor banking masih mati suri jadi BMRI disuruh parkir dulu biar nggak overheat digebuk sama semua bandar sektor banking On 4/26/07, dera ayu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sebagian besar BC hari ini ijo, cuman BMRi yg diteken terus... What's wrong ??? -- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48245/*http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html;_ylc=X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3LWNhcnM-
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Inco
I agree . Thanks a lot. On 4/26/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dari sisi chart kelihatan kok kalau harga lagi dimaintain untuk tidak tembus new high, bisa saja chart reading saya salah karena Bozz kasih data yang salah ke market but it's better stick on chart if you believe TA otherwise just make your own decision. On 4/26/07, Teddy Halim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pak I, Pak JA, apakah news / laporan Quarter 1 udah di discounted / factored in thdp down trend harga Inco ini? Kindly enlighten please. thanks pak On 4/26/07, ihsg 88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 54000 tidak akan tersentuh kecuali market crash. Dan dalam seminggu lagi saya tidak melihat tanda-2 tersebut. Saya tunggu Bozz di 58500 - 59000. Patternnya sudah bagus. Waktu sudah dekat tinggal 6 hari kerja. Paling-2 kalau Bozz niat kerjain cuma 3 hari lagi, tapi tidak hari ini. Dalam analisa saya (BIN) cuma ada 2 bozz yang konsisten PT. Salam cuan.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] masih segan
correct... mr FS. the trader mindset should be changed for now on!!. see session 2 ..MC. you will be shock not collecting some... enjoy your day! On 4/26/07, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you are wrongand know nothing... *macan cuan [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: jam 11 Setelah celingukan di angka 2007 IHSG JKSE , masuk toilet doank lalu...balik maning.masih segan masuk ke area 2K week end datang...pada mau liburan dulu para bandarnya bubar jalan... -- Kunjungi halaman depan Yahoo! Indonesiahttp://sg.rd.yahoo.com/mail/id/footer/def/*http://id.yahoo.com/yang baru! -- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48245/*http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html;_ylc=X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3LWNhcnM-
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA
Salut untuk anda, saya juga sudah biasa cover short kalau salah tapi kalau
saya yakin turun biasanya saya short terus dan saya benar2 mengandalkan TA.
Sifat investasi saya yah short term makanya trading.
On 4/26/07, mr.bearish_forever [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I Salut ama Om Lee.
Gw terpaksa Cover Short...
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
PTBA = PeTa BAru
You must remember.
BMRI n ISAT are part of my seven stars
- Original Message
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 25 April 2007 6:41:26PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA
No lah, I have my confident in
PTBA.
Any comment for BMRI and ISAT?
hehehe...
- Original Message -
From:
mr.bearish_forever
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007
14:39
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA
Already Run Away? hehehe
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com,
Lee Cwan Yeuw leecwan@
wrote:
Mr
Jammin.. .
Remember your statement
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] What's wrong with my BMRI ????
Blue chip memang sedang naik daun terutama karena 1Q banyak yang bagus. Banking belum jalan, sedang menunggu data inflasi april, yg katanya mungkin terjadi deflasi. So, sabar ya dan mudah2an BMRI tdk turun dibawah 3100. best regards, jm - Original Message - From: dera ayu To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:57 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] What's wrong with my BMRI Sebagian besar BC hari ini ijo, cuman BMRi yg diteken terus... What's wrong ??? -- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Inco
Apa masih wise stick to chart, buat INCO saham yg kurang likuid ini. FA (termasuk prospek nikel) dan bandarmologi mungkin lebih utama, baru TA, sekalipun buat trader. Just a thought. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dari sisi chart kelihatan kok kalau harga lagi dimaintain untuk tidak tembus new high, bisa saja chart reading saya salah karena Bozz kasih data yang salah ke market but it's better stick on chart if you believe TA otherwise just make your own decision. On 4/26/07, Teddy Halim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pak I, Pak JA, apakah news / laporan Quarter 1 udah di discounted / factored in thdp down trend harga Inco ini? Kindly enlighten please. thanks pak
[obrolan-bandar] BNII
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA
Cocok bener dg nama Anda : Lo Chuan - Yok...
-Original Message-
From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Arifin
Sent: 26 April 2007 13:15
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA
Salut untuk anda, saya juga sudah biasa cover short kalau salah tapi
kalau saya yakin turun biasanya saya short terus dan saya benar2
mengandalkan TA. Sifat investasi saya yah short term makanya trading.
On 4/26/07, mr.bearish_forever mr.bearish_forever@
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] yahoo.com wrote:
I Salut ama Om Lee.
Gw terpaksa Cover Short...
--- In obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com , Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
PTBA = PeTa BAru
You must remember.
BMRI n ISAT are part of my seven stars
- Original Message
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 25 April 2007 6:41:26PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA
No lah, I have my confident in
PTBA.
Any comment for BMRI and ISAT?
hehehe...
- Original Message -
From:
mr.bearish_forever
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007
14:39
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA
Already Run Away? hehehe
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com,
Lee Cwan Yeuw leecwan@
wrote:
Mr
Jammin.. .
Remember your statement
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] What's wrong with my BMRI ????
Kalo digebukin, bukannya biasa ngeshort? :D - Original Message - From: James Arifin To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] What's wrong with my BMRI bukan cuma BMRI, semua sektor banking masih mati suri jadi BMRI disuruh parkir dulu biar nggak overheat digebuk sama semua bandar sektor banking On 4/26/07, dera ayu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sebagian besar BC hari ini ijo, cuman BMRi yg diteken terus... What's wrong ??? Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] BNII
Laba q307 turun 35% dibanding 06. On 4/26/07, Naj L44 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ada informasi material negatif apa tentang BNII, karena sebelumnya terinfomasi kinerja persoroan positif dan berencana membagi dividen tunai Rp 13/shm mohon yg mempunyai informasi bisa sharing -- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48245/*http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html;_ylc=X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3LWNhcnM-
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Pencerahan TOTL ?
Nunggu RUPS tgl.1 mei mau bagi dev.cash + saham bonus (CMIIW)...GL Josia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:kalo kaya yoyo enak dong pak beli saat turun jual saat naik, beli saat turun jual saat naik (Teori YOYO) semoga membantu :D peace ah... - Original Message - From: erick_winata To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:04 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Pencerahan TOTL ? Rekan-rekan ada yang bisa kasih info tentang TOTL ? Yang saya tahu kalo saham ADHI naik, biasanya TOTL ikut naik juga bedanya ngak jauh. Tapi koq sekarang cuma kaya yoyo naik-turun doank ! Mohon pencerahannyathx - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: hidup trader
Saya kira, untuk bisa dapetin 10jt / bulan tidak harus 1M ya? munkin bisa aja dengan asumsi kenaikan 5% / bulan jadi dengan modal 200jt sudah bisa (walau mungkin mefet ya? ) IMHO, kalau kita punya modal sekian juta, dengan perkiraan perbulannya bisa mendapatkan sekian persen, taruhlah 5%, maka paling tidak kita harus sisakan 1% buat ditabung, ditempat lain, dengan asumsi uang yang kita punya itu mempunyai bobot seperti uang itu didepositokan. jadi 1% itu anggap saja ongkos dari uang yang kita putar (capital cost) dari 5% itu idealnya diambil semua per awal bulan berikutnya sehingga praktis modal dianggap tetap setiap bulannya, kecuali emang ada penambahan modal, atau dianggap sebagai penyertaan modal sendiri. dengan melakukan pengambilan keuntungan per bulannya, maka kita dapat mengukur performance kita sendiri, selayaknya kalau kita bekerja disuatu perusahaan pasti ada perhitungan performance, ada target, ada reward and perhaps punishment juga :) kalau itu kita terapkan secara disiplin saya kira, trading for a living is worth to do. :) Regards, Jl Thursday, April 26, 2007, 12:02:40 PM, you wrote: kalau sukses definisinya 'bisa makan' dan bayar intenet kayaknya harus dapet paling ngga 10jt per bulan ya.. berarti yg diputer 1M .. alis duit nganggurnya.. :-) rgds --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, irfan saemy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Dan Severn To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:12 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] hidup trader ada ga sih orang yang bisa sukses dari trading saham doank ? anggap tidak punya perusahaan atau pekerjaan lain sama sekali. jadi sehari hari hidup nya cuma melototin monitor dan trading aja. trus kalo bisa beli ini itu apa ndak didatangi orang pajakditanya penghasilan dari mana gitu.. -- Best regards, julyantomailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [obrolan-bandar] BNII
BNII, hari jeblok karena laba bersih laporan penjualan Q1 turun agak besar Bandar KZ hari ini marah besar jual besar2-an, hik2 nunggu cum deviden malah hancur So ada yang tahu kapan cum-nya BNII mungkin bisa naikin lagi Ferry Haryanto http://gadisgery.blogspot.com/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] What's wrong with my BMRI ????
level 3125 baru ngeSHORT On 4/26/07, Giri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kalo digebukin, bukannya biasa ngeshort? :D - Original Message - *From:* James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:04 PM *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] What's wrong with my BMRI bukan cuma BMRI, semua sektor banking masih mati suri jadi BMRI disuruh parkir dulu biar nggak overheat digebuk sama semua bandar sektor banking On 4/26/07, dera ayu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sebagian besar BC hari ini ijo, cuman BMRi yg diteken terus... What's wrong ??? -- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48245/*http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html;_ylc=X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3LWNhcnM-
[obrolan-bandar] Re: What's wrong with my BMRI ????
I'm with you James.. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: level 3125 baru ngeSHORT On 4/26/07, Giri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kalo digebukin, bukannya biasa ngeshort? :D - Original Message - *From:* James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:04 PM *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] What's wrong with my BMRI bukan cuma BMRI, semua sektor banking masih mati suri jadi BMRI disuruh parkir dulu biar nggak overheat digebuk sama semua bandar sektor banking On 4/26/07, dera ayu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sebagian besar BC hari ini ijo, cuman BMRi yg diteken terus... What's wrong ??? -- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48245/*http://autos.yahoo.com/new_ca rs.html;_ylc=X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDb mV3LWNhcnM-
[obrolan-bandar] Re: MBAH TERCINTA
Embah sehat sehat aja, kalo engga sehat embah engga bisa ngurusin admin milis... Jumlah member milis ampir mendekati 3000, dan banyak member yang berasal dari broker(anggota bursa). Ini BAGUS karena para broker adalah PENYAMBUNG LIDAH milis. Satu dealer bisa punya banyak nasabah/client. Jadi informasi dari milis bisa TERSEBAR ke puluhan ribu client Note: - Satu broker yang besar ampe punya 44 staff yang menjadi anggota milis OB. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, pemulung_sisa_bd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mbah kemana aja neh, kok gak muncul2 lg kangen ni ama guyonannya...mbah sakit yach?
Re: [obrolan-bandar] What's wrong with my BMRI ????
kalau turun di bawah 3125 ajah sudah mesti SHORT SELL On 4/26/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blue chip memang sedang naik daun terutama karena 1Q banyak yang bagus. Banking belum jalan, sedang menunggu data inflasi april, yg katanya mungkin terjadi deflasi. So, sabar ya dan mudah2an BMRI tdk turun dibawah 3100. best regards, jm - Original Message - *From:* dera ayu [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:57 *Subject:* [obrolan-bandar] What's wrong with my BMRI Sebagian besar BC hari ini ijo, cuman BMRi yg diteken terus... What's wrong ??? -- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48245/*http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html;_ylc=X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3LWNhcnM-
Re: [obrolan-bandar] What's wrong with my BMRI ????
Kapan tuh BMRI bisa 3125? Kalo BDMN, BBCA, BBRI kapan boleh di short? - Original Message - From: James Arifin To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] What's wrong with my BMRI level 3125 baru ngeSHORT On 4/26/07, Giri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kalo digebukin, bukannya biasa ngeshort? :D - Original Message - From: James Arifin To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] What's wrong with my BMRI bukan cuma BMRI, semua sektor banking masih mati suri jadi BMRI disuruh parkir dulu biar nggak overheat digebuk sama semua bandar sektor banking On 4/26/07, dera ayu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sebagian besar BC hari ini ijo, cuman BMRi yg diteken terus... What's wrong ??? Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MBAH TERCINTA
ada info MEDC or PGAS gak mba... biasanya clue dari embah manteb... thx lho mba... and congrate to mba... 3000 member bo! On 4/26/07, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Embah sehat sehat aja, kalo engga sehat embah engga bisa ngurusin admin milis... Jumlah member milis ampir mendekati 3000, dan banyak member yang berasal dari broker(anggota bursa). Ini BAGUS karena para broker adalah PENYAMBUNG LIDAH milis. Satu dealer bisa punya banyak nasabah/client. Jadi informasi dari milis bisa TERSEBAR ke puluhan ribu client Note: - Satu broker yang besar ampe punya 44 staff yang menjadi anggota milis OB. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, pemulung_sisa_bd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mbah kemana aja neh, kok gak muncul2 lg kangen ni ama guyonannya...mbah sakit yach?
Re: [obrolan-bandar] BNII
thanks infonya... yakin lah akan balik lagi di harga 215 - Original Message From: Dodi Aulia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:17:31 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BNII Laba q307 turun 35% dibanding 06. On 4/26/07, Naj L44 [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: ada informasi material negatif apa tentang BNII, karena sebelumnya terinfomasi kinerja persoroan positif dan berencana membagi dividen tunai Rp 13/shm mohon yg mempunyai informasi bisa sharing Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] New home sales still weak
New home sales still weak Government report shows slight pick-up in new home sales, but demand remains much weaker than year-ago levels. By Chris Isidore, CNNMoney.com senior writer April 25 2007: 11:51 AM EDT NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- New home sales rebounded a bit in March from depressed levels in February but still fell short of forecasts, according to the government's latest report, signaling ongoing weakness for the battered real estate market. New homes sold at an annual pace of 858,000 homes in March, up from the 836,000 pace in February, which was revised lower. Photo Gallery See more photos Current Mortgage Rates Type Overall avgs 30 yr fixed mtg 5.76% 15 yr fixed mtg 5.48% 30 yr fixed jumbo mtg 6.10% 5/1 ARM 5.51% 5/1 jumbo ARM 5.75% Find personalized rates: Quick Vote Should taxpayer dollars be used to bail out subprime borrowers with bad loans? DefinitelyNo wayOn a case-by-case basis or View resultsVideo More video CNN's Ali Velshi reports on the latest sign of a troubled housing market. (April 25) Play video The March reading was down 23 percent from March 2006 and was the second weakest sales pace in the Census Bureau report since September 2001, behind only the February reading. Economists surveyed by Briefing.com had forecast that sales would come back to an annual rate of 890,000 in March. Mike Larson, a real estate analyst at Weiss Research, said that he believes weather helped to inflate the sales numbers slightly in Wednesday's report. New home sales reportedly exploded by 50% in the Northeast region between February and March. In less weather-sensitive regions, sales were down slightly; down 2.7 percent in the South and off 0.9 percent in the West. Fastest and slowest growing housing markets The glut of new homes on the market was little changed, creeping up by 1,000 to a seasonally adjusted 545,000. That equates to a nearly eight-month supply of new homes for sale at the current level of demand. It will take even-deeper construction cuts, lower prices, and more incentives to get supply more closely aligned with the reduced level of demand, Larson said. I'm not expecting a lasting recovery until sometime later in 2008. The median price for a new home sold in March was $254,000, jumping 6.3 percent from the price of typical new home sold a year earlier. But the price reading could be inflated, as a survey by the National Association of Home Builders has found about three out of every four builders are offering incentives such as paying closing costs or offering items in the home for free in order to maintain sales in the current weak market. The same survey has found many home builders already reporting a drop in demand due to problems in the subprime mortgage market. Lenders have started to tighten underwriting standards in the face of rising defaults and delinquencies. The report on new home sales follows a report by the National Association of Realtors Tuesday that showed the sharpest drop in existing home sales in 18 years in March, along with a continued slide in home prices. Subprime risk: Most vulnerable markets Sales of new homes constitute only a fraction of the overall real estate market, but new home sales are more of a leading indicator because they are recorded at the time a contract is signed, rather than when a sale is closed a month or two later, as the existing home sales figures are tabulated. A separate report Wednesday showed mortgage foreclosure filings climbing 27 percent in the first quarter compared with the fourth quarter of 2006 and 35 percent from a year earlier. The weakness in home sales and revenue has hit the results of the nation's leading home builders. Earlier this month No. 2 home builder D.R. Horton (Charts, Fortune 500) reported a 37 percent drop in the number of new homes it sold in the latest quarter, citing continued weakness in prices and saying the typical start to the spring home buying season hasn't begun. While Horton is expected to still report a profit for the period, No. 4 builder Pulte Homes (Charts, Fortune 500) reported a loss in its latest quarter as did No. 3 Centex (Charts, Fortune 500) and New Jersey-based Hovnanian Enterprises (Charts, Fortune 500). No. 1 home builder Lennar (Charts, Fortune 500) and No. 5 KB Home (Charts, Fortune 500) both reported losses in their quarters ending in November, although both returned to an operating profit in the next quarter. The CEO of KB Home said earlier this month that he expects the housing slump to get worse. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] CTRS
Mohon pencerahan dong, CTRS kira-kira mau di-angkat sampai berapa ya? Trims
[obrolan-bandar] Re: MBAH TERCINTA
sugeng sonten mbah. bagi-2 dunk mbah wangsitnya buat cucu-2, biasanya setelah bertapa wangsitnya cespleng lho --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Embah sehat sehat aja, kalo engga sehat embah engga bisa ngurusin admin milis... Jumlah member milis ampir mendekati 3000, dan banyak member yang berasal dari broker(anggota bursa). Ini BAGUS karena para broker adalah PENYAMBUNG LIDAH milis. Satu dealer bisa punya banyak nasabah/client. Jadi informasi dari milis bisa TERSEBAR ke puluhan ribu client Note: - Satu broker yang besar ampe punya 44 staff yang menjadi anggota milis OB. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, pemulung_sisa_bd pemulung_sisa_bd@ wrote: mbah kemana aja neh, kok gak muncul2 lg kangen ni ama guyonannya...mbah sakit yach?
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MBAH TERCINTA
amin amin klo mbah baik2 ajaabg abg bayk yg pake ijo2 ni mbah dalemannya hahahahahahaha ada miti mami, syg papinya (mbah jsx) lg lembur ngurusin admin milist huhahahahaahaha.. --- jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Embah sehat sehat aja, kalo engga sehat embah engga bisa ngurusin admin milis... Jumlah member milis ampir mendekati 3000, dan banyak member yang berasal dari broker(anggota bursa). Ini BAGUS karena para broker adalah PENYAMBUNG LIDAH milis. Satu dealer bisa punya banyak nasabah/client. Jadi informasi dari milis bisa TERSEBAR ke puluhan ribu client Note: - Satu broker yang besar ampe punya 44 staff yang menjadi anggota milis OB. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, pemulung_sisa_bd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mbah kemana aja neh, kok gak muncul2 lg kangen ni ama guyonannya...mbah sakit yach? Yahoo! Groups Links (Yahoo! ID required) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PSB Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] What's wrong with my BMRI ????
Kalau nggak di bawah 3125 yah jangan pernah diSHORT sama saja cari mati. BBCA, BBRI lagi side ways jadi trading pakai %WR or Stochastic aja, turun beli, naik jual. On 4/26/07, Giri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kapan tuh BMRI bisa 3125? Kalo BDMN, BBCA, BBRI kapan boleh di short? - Original Message - *From:* James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:30 PM *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] What's wrong with my BMRI level 3125 baru ngeSHORT On 4/26/07, Giri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kalo digebukin, bukannya biasa ngeshort? :D - Original Message - *From:* James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:04 PM *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] What's wrong with my BMRI bukan cuma BMRI, semua sektor banking masih mati suri jadi BMRI disuruh parkir dulu biar nggak overheat digebuk sama semua bandar sektor banking On 4/26/07, dera ayu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sebagian besar BC hari ini ijo, cuman BMRi yg diteken terus... What's wrong ??? -- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48245/*http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html;_ylc=X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3LWNhcnM-
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MBAH TERCINTA
Oalah mbhh mbah, nggak usahlah diurusin lah member milis. udah pada gede2 semua. Yg perlu diurusin adalah wangsit mbah, akar netes ke kita juga. Kombinasi FA TA kurang mantafh kalau nggak dikominaskan dengan si wangsit itu tadi. Bersatu kita teguh, bercerai bandar senang.., tul nggak mbah. Jangan2 mbah banyak diem abis sut loss buanyak ya mbah? BR GL On 4/26/07, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Embah sehat sehat aja, kalo engga sehat embah engga bisa ngurusin admin milis... Jumlah member milis ampir mendekati 3000, dan banyak member yang berasal dari broker(anggota bursa). Ini BAGUS karena para broker adalah PENYAMBUNG LIDAH milis. Satu dealer bisa punya banyak nasabah/client. Jadi informasi dari milis bisa TERSEBAR ke puluhan ribu client Note: - Satu broker yang besar ampe punya 44 staff yang menjadi anggota milis OB. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, pemulung_sisa_bd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mbah kemana aja neh, kok gak muncul2 lg kangen ni ama guyonannya...mbah sakit yach?
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MBAH TERCINTA
mbah sedang kasih advice ama bandar bozz, makanya suaranya gak ada.. :).. - Original Message - From: GhuztLenQ To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:27 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MBAH TERCINTA Oalah mbhh mbah, nggak usahlah diurusin lah member milis. udah pada gede2 semua. Yg perlu diurusin adalah wangsit mbah, akar netes ke kita juga. Kombinasi FA TA kurang mantafh kalau nggak dikominaskan dengan si wangsit itu tadi. Bersatu kita teguh, bercerai bandar senang.., tul nggak mbah. Jangan2 mbah banyak diem abis sut loss buanyak ya mbah? BR GL On 4/26/07, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Embah sehat sehat aja, kalo engga sehat embah engga bisa ngurusin admin milis... Jumlah member milis ampir mendekati 3000, dan banyak member yang berasal dari broker(anggota bursa). Ini BAGUS karena para broker adalah PENYAMBUNG LIDAH milis. Satu dealer bisa punya banyak nasabah/client. Jadi informasi dari milis bisa TERSEBAR ke puluhan ribu client Note: - Satu broker yang besar ampe punya 44 staff yang menjadi anggota milis OB. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, pemulung_sisa_bd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mbah kemana aja neh, kok gak muncul2 lg kangen ni ama guyonannya...mbah sakit yach?
[obrolan-bandar] Besok JUMAT
Ingat besok Jum'at. Hari ini harap perhatikan jarak high dan close. Semoga kekhawatiran saya akan koreksi dalam tidak terjadi besok. Saya ingat kejadian waktu indeks tembus 1250 dengan sedikit dipaksakan mengakibatkan koreksi cukup dalam ke 950an. Sekarang 2005 kalau turun hingga 1820, cukup lumayan dalam loh
Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM.... GO
gila ada panic buying di antm euy On 4/26/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: khan sudah dibilangin dari kemarin2 kalau nggak ngikut yah salah sendiri. Disuruh SHORT nggak mau short giliran disuruh beli juga nggak mau, terus mau apa lagi ... bo hwat kata Ciu Pek Tong. Entar kalau di level 18000 disuruh SHORT lagi pada mikir mau langsung lari ke 25000 kapan belajarnya, giliran ditanya mau ambil posisi apa, jawabnya TRADER, giliran harga naik terus, ganti pikiran, jadi INVESTOR aja. Saat harga turun mikir lagi kenapa yah kemarin disuruh jual nggak jual khan mending jadi TRADER ... lama2 mati sendiri ganti posisi melulu. INCO, kenapa harus diSHORT karena secara TA INCO sudah bukan market mover lagi diganti sama pemain bangku cadangan yang sudah tidur hampir 6 bulan lebih. Di saat IHSG break high, INCO nggak break high artinya untuk sementara INCO hanya jadi setrikaan dulu. Alasan kedua karena chart mining nggak sudah jelek sedang downtrend, jadi mending cari sektor yang lagi uptrend. Semoga bung Andri mendapatkan pencerahan dari tulisan saya ini. On 4/26/07, Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gimana nich pak james, target akhir bulan 17-18 rb yach? tarik bozzz regards
Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM.... GO
Ada info laba Q1 2007 mencapai 1 trilyun. Nah...akan ke berapakah antm? 18 rb besok/Senin? Pak James, kan ada yang taruhan akhir bulan akan ke situ? hehehe... Seru nih nontonnya, film2 Hollywood aja kalah seru... Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gila ada panic buying di antm euy On 4/26/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: khan sudah dibilangin dari kemarin2 kalau nggak ngikut yah salah sendiri. Disuruh SHORT nggak mau short giliran disuruh beli juga nggak mau, terus mau apa lagi ... bo hwat kata Ciu Pek Tong. Entar kalau di level 18000 disuruh SHORT lagi pada mikir mau langsung lari ke 25000 kapan belajarnya, giliran ditanya mau ambil posisi apa, jawabnya TRADER, giliran harga naik terus, ganti pikiran, jadi INVESTOR aja. Saat harga turun mikir lagi kenapa yah kemarin disuruh jual nggak jual khan mending jadi TRADER ... lama2 mati sendiri ganti posisi melulu. INCO, kenapa harus diSHORT karena secara TA INCO sudah bukan market mover lagi diganti sama pemain bangku cadangan yang sudah tidur hampir 6 bulan lebih. Di saat IHSG break high, INCO nggak break high artinya untuk sementara INCO hanya jadi setrikaan dulu. Alasan kedua karena chart mining nggak sudah jelek sedang downtrend, jadi mending cari sektor yang lagi uptrend. Semoga bung Andri mendapatkan pencerahan dari tulisan saya ini. On 4/26/07, Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gimana nich pak james, target akhir bulan 17-18 rb yach? tarik bozzz regards - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Besok JUMAT
I bet tomorrow JCI will close +15 or higher. Teorinya begini, kalo udah tembus nanggung kalo separo-separo...kurang enakkk..hueueuhhehehheh Sederhana saja. - Original Message - From: James Arifin To: obrolan bandar Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:49 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Besok JUMAT Ingat besok Jum'at. Hari ini harap perhatikan jarak high dan close. Semoga kekhawatiran saya akan koreksi dalam tidak terjadi besok. Saya ingat kejadian waktu indeks tembus 1250 dengan sedikit dipaksakan mengakibatkan koreksi cukup dalam ke 950an. Sekarang 2005 kalau turun hingga 1820, cukup lumayan dalam loh
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Besok JUMAT
Hi...hi
Mr Arifeen.
whatever will be.
My friends (foreigners) buy more than Rp 600 bio today.
So tomorrow. ?
TGIF
- Original Message
From: James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan bandar obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 26 April 2007 3:49:24PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Besok JUMAT
Ingat besok Jum'at. Hari ini harap perhatikan jarak high dan close.
Semoga kekhawatiran saya akan koreksi dalam tidak terjadi besok. Saya ingat
kejadian waktu indeks tembus 1250 dengan sedikit dipaksakan mengakibatkan
koreksi cukup dalam ke 950an. Sekarang 2005 kalau turun hingga 1820, cukup
lumayan dalam loh
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM.... GO
Andree..
I told you before.ANTM=US$2.
check my email...I think you collect my email
- Original Message
From: Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 26 April 2007 3:39:15PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM GO
gila ada panic buying di antm euy
On 4/26/07, James Arifin james.arifin@ gmail.com wrote:
khan sudah dibilangin dari kemarin2 kalau nggak ngikut yah salah sendiri.
Disuruh SHORT nggak mau short giliran disuruh beli juga nggak mau, terus mau
apa lagi ... bo hwat kata Ciu Pek Tong. Entar kalau di level 18000 disuruh
SHORT lagi pada mikir mau langsung lari ke 25000 kapan belajarnya, giliran
ditanya mau ambil posisi apa, jawabnya TRADER, giliran harga naik terus, ganti
pikiran, jadi INVESTOR aja. Saat harga turun mikir lagi kenapa yah kemarin
disuruh jual nggak jual khan mending jadi TRADER ... lama2 mati sendiri ganti
posisi melulu.
INCO, kenapa harus diSHORT karena secara TA INCO sudah bukan market mover lagi
diganti sama pemain bangku cadangan yang sudah tidur hampir 6 bulan lebih. Di
saat IHSG break high, INCO nggak break high artinya untuk sementara INCO hanya
jadi setrikaan dulu. Alasan kedua karena chart mining nggak sudah jelek sedang
downtrend, jadi mending cari sektor yang lagi uptrend.
Semoga bung Andri mendapatkan pencerahan dari tulisan saya ini.
On 4/26/07, Andri Wijaya andri.wijaya@ gmail.com
wrote:
gimana nich pak james, target akhir bulan 17-18 rb yach? tarik bozzz
regards
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] BULLISH 2 BULAN....Re: Sepi...
Sekarang masih ada waktu sebulan lagi ya kan Mbah? Tadi udah sempet lewatin 2.017 ALX On 4/3/07, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tgl 22 maret embah memprediksikan BEJ akan bullish selama 2 bulan... Saat itu IHSG = 1809, saat ini sudah 1880 (dalam 2 minggu), jadi bullish masih 1,5 bulan lagi. HAYO siapa yg berani prediksi: IHSG naek ampe berapa dalm 1,5 bulan lagi ? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dari analisa FUND-FLOW, embah melihat kemungkinan dalam 2 bulan kedepan ini akan BULLISH... Embah meliat AWAL bullish ini kemarin ketika, index sectoral BEJ HIJAU tapi di 'REKAYASA' dengan menekan TLKM (-200) Strategi formasi X mungkin DIGELAR, tapi embah memprediksikan bahwa dalam 2 bulan ini IHSG akan bullish terlepas dari regional... Mudah mudahan benar hehehe... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei highwaystar91@ wrote: -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [obrolan-bandar] TEPLOK EMBAH
MBAH, sudah mau pasang teplok pa belum YA ? Indeksnya sudah tembus 2 K Tapi masih ingat kata MBAH, sampe akhir MEI genggam erat saja stock yang kita punya _ From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of barang rombengan Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:11 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MBAH TERCINTA amin amin klo mbah baik2 ajaabg abg bayk yg pake ijo2 ni mbah dalemannya hahahahahahaha ada miti mami, syg papinya (mbah jsx) lg lembur ngurusin admin milist huhahahahaahaha.. --- jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ mailto:jsx-consultant%40centrin.net.id centrin.net.id wrote: Embah sehat sehat aja, kalo engga sehat embah engga bisa ngurusin admin milis... Jumlah member milis ampir mendekati 3000, dan banyak member yang berasal dari broker(anggota bursa). Ini BAGUS karena para broker adalah PENYAMBUNG LIDAH milis. Satu dealer bisa punya banyak nasabah/client. Jadi informasi dari milis bisa TERSEBAR ke puluhan ribu client Note: - Satu broker yang besar ampe punya 44 staff yang menjadi anggota milis OB. --- In obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, pemulung_sisa_bd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mbah kemana aja neh, kok gak muncul2 lg kangen ni ama guyonannya...mbah sakit yach? Yahoo! Groups Links (Yahoo! ID required) mailto:obrolan-bandar- mailto:obrolan-bandar-fullfeatured%40yahoogroups.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] PSB Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com .yahoo.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] masih segan
correct sir,..i will learn from you. IHSG ditutup diatas 2K. salam cuan. Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you are wrongand know nothing... macan cuan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jam 11 Setelah celingukan di angka 2007 IHSG JKSE , masuk toilet doank lalu...balik maning.masih segan masuk ke area 2K week end datang...pada mau liburan dulu para bandarnya bubar jalan... - Kunjungi halaman depan Yahoo! Indonesia yang baru! - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos. - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: masih segan
yupz, i know nothing, thanks. salam cuan juga bro pak FS --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Icuk 98 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: correct sir,..i will learn from you. IHSG ditutup diatas 2K. salam cuan. Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you are wrongand know nothing... macan cuan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jam 11 Setelah celingukan di angka 2007 IHSG JKSE , masuk toilet doank lalu...balik maning.masih segan masuk ke area 2K week end datang...pada mau liburan dulu para bandarnya bubar jalan... - Kunjungi halaman depan Yahoo! Indonesia yang baru! - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos. - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] hidup trader
betul pak 0,1% final dari penjualan aja, bukan dari capital gain. mumpung bloom ada pajak capital gain mending lapor aja di spp kita, jadi bisa blanja macem2 dengen tenang dari pada kena pph mulu yang naekterus mending dari stock trader. Jayamudita wrote: Apakah Anda sudah memiliki NPWP?Jika sudah, laporkan penghasilan dari trading saham dalam SPP danmasukkan keuntungan dalam penambahan kekayaan pribadi, hasil daritrading (untung maupun rugi) sudah dipotong pajak Pph final, jadi hasilbersih dari kegiatan tsb adalah legal dan sudah bayar pajak, mengapaharus takut orang pajak? Salam, Tommy Jayamudita -Original Message - From:Rei To:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent:Wednesday, April 25, 2007 8:25 PM Subject:Re: [obrolan-bandar] hidup trader Ada kok...tapi soal pajak saya kurang tahu (mana berani tanya?) Tapi kok rasanya kurang afdol hidup dari saham saja...yah, nggak tahujuga ya. Tiap orang kan beda2. Dan Severn [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: ada ga sih orang yang bisasukses dari trading saham doank ? anggap tidak punya perusahaanatau pekerjaan lain sama sekali. jadi sehari hari hidup nya cumamelototin monitor dan trading aja. trus kalo bisa beli ini itu apandak didatangi orang pajakditanya penghasilan dari managitu.. - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out newcars at Yahoo! Autos. - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MBAH TERCINTA
Kalo gitu MBAH yang jadi ketua BEJ aja Mbah ?? Kan fasilitas nya bisa menggerakkan pasar, atau mau kita ajukan 2 pilihan dgn Bang Irwan Napit ?? (oh maaf dua dua nya IRWAN yak ? ) Pokoke kita berterimakasih atas fasilitas forum yang dikerjakan oleh duet irwan dan irwan A3K From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jsx_consultant Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:35 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MBAH TERCINTA Embah sehat sehat aja, kalo engga sehat embah engga bisa ngurusin admin milis... Jumlah member milis ampir mendekati 3000, dan banyak member yang berasal dari broker(anggota bursa). Ini BAGUS karena para broker adalah PENYAMBUNG LIDAH milis. Satu dealer bisa punya banyak nasabah/client. Jadi informasi dari milis bisa TERSEBAR ke puluhan ribu client Note: - Satu broker yang besar ampe punya 44 staff yang menjadi anggota milis OB. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, pemulung_sisa_bd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mbah kemana aja neh, kok gak muncul2 lg kangen ni ama guyonannya...mbah sakit yach?
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Link Chart Logam
Thx Albert, Thx also to your friend. Tapi bisa tolong bilangin ke temannya gak, tambahin yg 3 month contract juga. Sepertinya chartnya yg cash ya.. thx --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Albert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yang mau liat chart logam, drpada masuk situs berbayar. http://ihedge.wordpress.com/chart-logam/ dibuatin temenku di Singapore :D SEmoga bermanfaat buat temen temen, Sering sering buka ya, up to date terus kok. == Albert R Jakarta Barat
Re: [obrolan-bandar] hidup trader
lha kalo bilang modal nya pinjam dari bank ? kan banyak tuh kredit tanpa agunan. bisa ga yah ? - Original Message - From: Dodi Aulia To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 9:43 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] hidup trader Bukannya kalo setiap trading jual sudah dikenakan pajak pph final sebesar 0.1% dari nilai jual? Kalo iya, berarti orang pajak juga gak kan nyari, karena emang trader udah bayar pajak. Orang pajak sudah lebih cerdik, nyuruh broker yang motong pajaknya. Tinggal nodong brokernya aja. Kalo ditodong orang pajak, tinggal bilang dengan jujur. Wong udah bayar pajak ke broker kok. Jadi gak perlu repot bayar sendiri lagi. Nah, kalo ditanya modal buat trading dari mana, itu yang repot. He he he. On 4/26/07, Karno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ada, penjaga warung alias Mbah JSX Consultant ! Maen sahamnya tambah cakep terus.. - Original Message - From: Dan Severn To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:12 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] hidup trader ada ga sih orang yang bisa sukses dari trading saham doank ? anggap tidak punya perusahaan atau pekerjaan lain sama sekali. jadi sehari hari hidup nya cuma melototin monitor dan trading aja. trus kalo bisa beli ini itu apa ndak didatangi orang pajakditanya penghasilan dari mana gitu..
Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM.... GO
Hari ini ada trader gila.. sudah tahu harga nickel turun sudah tahu stock nickel di LME naik menjadi year high tapi masih saja nekad masuk di 15900 kita lihat bagaimana nasib trader gila itu besok On 4/26/07, Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gila ada panic buying di antm euy On 4/26/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: khan sudah dibilangin dari kemarin2 kalau nggak ngikut yah salah sendiri. Disuruh SHORT nggak mau short giliran disuruh beli juga nggak mau, terus mau apa lagi ... bo hwat kata Ciu Pek Tong. Entar kalau di level 18000 disuruh SHORT lagi pada mikir mau langsung lari ke 25000 kapan belajarnya, giliran ditanya mau ambil posisi apa, jawabnya TRADER, giliran harga naik terus, ganti pikiran, jadi INVESTOR aja. Saat harga turun mikir lagi kenapa yah kemarin disuruh jual nggak jual khan mending jadi TRADER ... lama2 mati sendiri ganti posisi melulu. INCO, kenapa harus diSHORT karena secara TA INCO sudah bukan market mover lagi diganti sama pemain bangku cadangan yang sudah tidur hampir 6 bulan lebih. Di saat IHSG break high, INCO nggak break high artinya untuk sementara INCO hanya jadi setrikaan dulu. Alasan kedua karena chart mining nggak sudah jelek sedang downtrend, jadi mending cari sektor yang lagi uptrend. Semoga bung Andri mendapatkan pencerahan dari tulisan saya ini. On 4/26/07, Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gimana nich pak james, target akhir bulan 17-18 rb yach? tarik bozzz regards
Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM.... GO
Kemungkinan 'bocoran' Profit 1Q07 sebesar 1T benar, shg berani pasang badan duluan. Jika benar, saya pikir U$2 akan tercapai dlm wkt dekat. Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hari ini ada trader gila.. sudah tahu harga nickel turun sudah tahu stock nickel di LME naik menjadi year high tapi masih saja nekad masuk di 15900 kita lihat bagaimana nasib trader gila itu besok On 4/26/07, Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gila ada panic buying di antm euy On 4/26/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: khan sudah dibilangin dari kemarin2 kalau nggak ngikut yah salah sendiri. Disuruh SHORT nggak mau short giliran disuruh beli juga nggak mau, terus mau apa lagi ... bo hwat kata Ciu Pek Tong. Entar kalau di level 18000 disuruh SHORT lagi pada mikir mau langsung lari ke 25000 kapan belajarnya, giliran ditanya mau ambil posisi apa, jawabnya TRADER, giliran harga naik terus, ganti pikiran, jadi INVESTOR aja. Saat harga turun mikir lagi kenapa yah kemarin disuruh jual nggak jual khan mending jadi TRADER ... lama2 mati sendiri ganti posisi melulu. INCO, kenapa harus diSHORT karena secara TA INCO sudah bukan market mover lagi diganti sama pemain bangku cadangan yang sudah tidur hampir 6 bulan lebih. Di saat IHSG break high, INCO nggak break high artinya untuk sementara INCO hanya jadi setrikaan dulu. Alasan kedua karena chart mining nggak sudah jelek sedang downtrend, jadi mending cari sektor yang lagi uptrend. Semoga bung Andri mendapatkan pencerahan dari tulisan saya ini. On 4/26/07, Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gimana nich pak james, target akhir bulan 17-18 rb yach? tarik bozzz regards - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM.... GO
Asalkan nickel masih di atas $30,000 per MT, baik INCO maupun ANTM masih bagus. GO ANTM GO INCO. - Original Message - From: Halim Mintareja To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:53 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM GO Hari ini ada trader gila.. sudah tahu harga nickel turun sudah tahu stock nickel di LME naik menjadi year high tapi masih saja nekad masuk di 15900 kita lihat bagaimana nasib trader gila itu besok On 4/26/07, Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gila ada panic buying di antm euy On 4/26/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: khan sudah dibilangin dari kemarin2 kalau nggak ngikut yah salah sendiri. Disuruh SHORT nggak mau short giliran disuruh beli juga nggak mau, terus mau apa lagi ... bo hwat kata Ciu Pek Tong. Entar kalau di level 18000 disuruh SHORT lagi pada mikir mau langsung lari ke 25000 kapan belajarnya, giliran ditanya mau ambil posisi apa, jawabnya TRADER, giliran harga naik terus, ganti pikiran, jadi INVESTOR aja. Saat harga turun mikir lagi kenapa yah kemarin disuruh jual nggak jual khan mending jadi TRADER ... lama2 mati sendiri ganti posisi melulu. INCO, kenapa harus diSHORT karena secara TA INCO sudah bukan market mover lagi diganti sama pemain bangku cadangan yang sudah tidur hampir 6 bulan lebih. Di saat IHSG break high, INCO nggak break high artinya untuk sementara INCO hanya jadi setrikaan dulu. Alasan kedua karena chart mining nggak sudah jelek sedang downtrend, jadi mending cari sektor yang lagi uptrend. Semoga bung Andri mendapatkan pencerahan dari tulisan saya ini. On 4/26/07, Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gimana nich pak james, target akhir bulan 17-18 rb yach? tarik bozzz regards
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MBAH TERCINTA
Wajar dong kalo banyak yang gabung dengan milis ini...habis di sini gudang nya analis2 top saling bertukar pikiraninformasi-informasi penting terus di update...apalagi analisanya Mbahkroni-kroni nya Top Abis lah.semoga milis nya tambah gede dan semoga mbah masih terus tetep bagi-bagi informasi buat kita2 ya hehehehehehe.^ ^ --- PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL (Disclaimer) --- This e-mail message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not disseminate, distribute, or copy this communication, by e-mail or otherwise, or take any action in reliance on it. Instead, please notify us immediately by return e-mail (including the original message in your reply) to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and then delete and discard all copies of the e-mail.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM.... GO
Pasti di atas Rp 1 triliun. Untuk Q4 saja kira2 Rp 800 milyar (sebelum bonus dan harga nickel waktu itu belum setinggi sekarang). Proyek Q1 2007 pasti di atas Rp 1 triliun karena harga nickel sekarang jauh diatas Q4 2006. - Original Message - From: Investor Bonex To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM GO Kemungkinan 'bocoran' Profit 1Q07 sebesar 1T benar, shg berani pasang badan duluan. Jika benar, saya pikir U$2 akan tercapai dlm wkt dekat. Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hari ini ada trader gila.. sudah tahu harga nickel turun sudah tahu stock nickel di LME naik menjadi year high tapi masih saja nekad masuk di 15900 kita lihat bagaimana nasib trader gila itu besok On 4/26/07, Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gila ada panic buying di antm euy On 4/26/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: khan sudah dibilangin dari kemarin2 kalau nggak ngikut yah salah sendiri. Disuruh SHORT nggak mau short giliran disuruh beli juga nggak mau, terus mau apa lagi ... bo hwat kata Ciu Pek Tong. Entar kalau di level 18000 disuru h SHORT lagi pada mikir mau langsung lari ke 25000 kapan belajarnya, giliran ditanya mau ambil posisi apa, jawabnya TRADER, giliran harga naik terus, ganti pikiran, jadi INVESTOR aja. Saat harga turun mikir lagi kenapa yah kemarin disuruh jual nggak jual khan mending jadi TRADER ... lama2 mati sendiri ganti posisi melulu. INCO, kenapa harus diSHORT karena secara TA INCO sudah bukan market mover lagi diganti sama pemain bangku cadangan yang sudah tidur hampir 6 bulan lebih. Di saat IHSG break high, INCO nggak break high artinya untuk sementara INCO hanya jadi setrikaan dulu. Alasan kedua karena chart mining nggak sudah jelek sedang downtrend, jadi mending cari sektor yang lagi uptrend. Semoga bung Andri mendapatkan pencerahan dari tulisan saya ini. On 4/26/07, Andri Wijaya and [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gimana nich pak james, target akhir bulan 17-18 rb yach? tarik bozzz regards -- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM.... GO
Setuju, lagipula dulu waktu nickel naik besoknya inco malah turun. Jadi saya rasa harga nickel sedikit berpengaruh pada harga antm atau inco krn BANDAR hanya menggunakan alasan harga nickel naik/turn kalo memang ada maksud ingin menaikan/menurunkan harga saham ybs. Go Antm Go... Go Inco Go... Jonni Amin, CFA, FRM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Asalkan nickel masih di atas $30,000 per MT, baik INCO maupun ANTM masih bagus. GO ANTM GO INCO. - Original Message - From: Halim Mintareja To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:53 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM GO Hari ini ada trader gila.. sudah tahu harga nickel turun sudah tahu stock nickel di LME naik menjadi year high tapi masih saja nekad masuk di 15900 kita lihat bagaimana nasib trader gila itu besok On 4/26/07, Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gila ada panic buying di antm euy On 4/26/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: khan sudah dibilangin dari kemarin2 kalau nggak ngikut yah salah sendiri. Disuruh SHORT nggak mau short giliran disuruh beli juga nggak mau, terus mau apa lagi ... bo hwat kata Ciu Pek Tong. Entar kalau di level 18000 disuruh SHORT lagi pada mikir mau langsung lari ke 25000 kapan belajarnya, giliran ditanya mau ambil posisi apa, jawabnya TRADER, giliran harga naik terus, ganti pikiran, jadi INVESTOR aja. Saat harga turun mikir lagi kenapa yah kemarin disuruh jual nggak jual khan mending jadi TRADER ... lama2 mati sendiri ganti posisi melulu. INCO, kenapa harus diSHORT karena secara TA INCO sudah bukan market mover lagi diganti sama pemain bangku cadangan yang sudah tidur hampir 6 bulan lebih. Di saat IHSG break high, INCO nggak break high artinya untuk sementara INCO hanya jadi setrikaan dulu. Alasan kedua karena chart mining nggak sudah jelek sedang downtrend, jadi mending cari sektor yang lagi uptrend. Semoga bung Andri mendapatkan pencerahan dari tulisan saya ini. On 4/26/07, Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gimana nich pak james, target akhir bulan 17-18 rb yach? tarik bozzz regards - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
[obrolan-bandar] BMTR - ???
BMTR (Global Mediacom) di tanggal 23/04/07 masih 5000-an.. keesokan harinya 24/04/07 diperdagangkan di harga 1000-an..dgn volume 144 juta lbr... Aneh sekali, kok gak disuspend ya? Apakah chart saya yg salah ya??? Edan tenan... dari 5000 ke 1000...hanya dalam satu hari... ektrem banget... ini saham sakit apa saya yg gak tau apa2 ??? mohon pencerahan dari para sesepuh...
[obrolan-bandar] BMTR ???
BMTR (Global Mediacom) di tanggal 23/04/07 masih 5000-an.. keesokan harinya 24/04/07 diperdagangkan di harga 1000-an..dgn volume 144 juta lbr... Aneh sekali, kok gak disuspend ya? Apakah chart saya yg salah ya??? Edan tenan... dari 5000 ke 1000...hanya dalam satu hari... ektrem banget... ini saham sakit apa saya yg gak tau apa2 ??? mohon pencerahan dari para sesepuh...
[obrolan-bandar] Re: BMTR ???
Saya yg short bozz.. kemana aja...bozz? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Pahala Baringbing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BMTR (Global Mediacom) di tanggal 23/04/07 masih 5000-an.. keesokan harinya 24/04/07 diperdagangkan di harga 1000-an..dgn volume 144 juta lbr... Aneh sekali, kok gak disuspend ya? Apakah chart saya yg salah ya??? Edan tenan... dari 5000 ke 1000...hanya dalam satu hari... ektrem banget... ini saham sakit apa saya yg gak tau apa2 ??? mohon pencerahan dari para sesepuh...
Re: [obrolan-bandar] hidup trader
nahh investor gini dpt duitnya dr mana ? kyk nya kan mesti punya perusahaan dl sblmnya. - Original Message - From: Aria Bela Nusa To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 6:13 AM Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] hidup trader Kalo ditanya begitu - buat pegangan (BELIEF) lihat 'aja terkaya di dunia WARREN BUFFET (sekarang orang terkaya no.3 + namanya mengandung saham (WARANT) kebetulan - setelah disusul TONY SLIM dr Amerika Latin) masih bisa exists sampe sekarang sbg investor yg berhasil banget (kalo sbg trader - saya rasa banyak juga dg nama2 populer). Mengenai caranya bisa ada 2 (dua) - bisa full-time di saham (istilahnya TRADING for a living - bukan TRAINING for a living, ya) - bisa juga sbg usaha sampingan (ada pekerjaan pokok mis sbg pegawai) à mana yg dipilih tergantung pilihan masing2 - yg pasti kalo pilihan 1 harus ada persiapan segala sesuatunya dulu (BELAJAR dulu - beli buku2, ikutan seminar2, kursus2 atau club, dll - dg persiapan2 yg mateng/luar-biasa + tentunya mengeluarkan uang/biaya yg cukup banyak - yg penting tidak ada yg gratisan).Utk pilihan no 2 - ya tentunya lebih capek - pinter2 bagi waktu, harus ada komitmen, dstnya Tujuan utamanya yg penting modal tetep terpelihara (kalo bisa berkembang/bertumbuh) + oentoengs bisa selalu oentoengs tetep oentoengs Regards, Aria -- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johand Dimalouw Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:28 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] hidup trader Rekan ML OB Pajak dari jual beli saham di BEJ dikenakan pajak yang bersifat final. Artinya ya itu saja sudah. Sama halnya bila kita tabung di bank dalam deposito atau tabungan dikenakan pajak Final atas bunga sebesar 20%. Dalam perdagangan saham di BEJ, saat kita beli yang menjual yang ke napajak dan saat kita jual kita dikenakan pajak juga. Jadi saat beli tak dipajak tapi saat jual dipajak, tak peduli untung atau rugi tetap kena pajak. Pajak jual alias Sales Tax ini besaranya 0,1% dari Nilai transaksi dan dipotong oleh Pialang Bursa (Broker) yang kita pakai. Makanya, kalau diperhatikan fee yang dikenakan broker ke kita, saat beli = xx %, dan saat jual = (xx + 0,1) %. Broker yang saya pakai besaran fee itu = 0,25% saat beli dan 0,35% saat jual dan diberi rinciannya. Mudah-mudahan membantu. Ini cerita santai saja soal saham. Ada rekan saya yang tanya saya, siapa orang terkaya di dunia saat ini. Saya jawab Bill Gates. Dia tanya lagi Kenapa Bill Gates bisa kaya? Saya jawab karena dia memilik perusahaan Microsoft, Dia Pemiliknya! kata saya. Rekan saya bantah dan bilang Banyak orang kok yang punya Microsoft, bukan Bill saja; tuh sahamnya dijual di bursa dan banyak orang yang beli. Jadi? saya balik bertanya. Dia jawab Banyak orang keliru soal ini, menurut saya orang terkaya di dunia nomor satu, si Bill itu dan nomor 2, si Warren itu, jadi kaya karena mereka memiliki Saham. Jadi kalau kau mau jadi kaya, kau harus memilik saham, bukan perusaahan, sahamnya saja. Lihat saja Oom William, Pendiri dan Pemilik Astra Int; itu. Karena sayang Anak dia jual sahamnya di Astra. Sekarang saham Astra milik orang lain khan? Jadi supaya kaya orang harus memilik saham, cara dengan membeli dan kemudian menjual dan beli lagi dst... dst..nya Saya terdiam dan mikir. Rasanya benar juga kata kawan itu. Saya mendengar cerita dari kawan yang lain bahwa Warren itu tidak mau memilik perusahan yang sahamnya dia beli, jadi dia limit maksimum kepemilikan sahamnya di angka 20% saja. Terima kasih JD - Original Message From: Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 8:25:59 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] hidup trader Ada kok...tapi soal pajak saya kurang tahu (mana berani tanya?) Tapi kok rasanya kurang afdol hidup dari saham saja...yah, nggak tahu juga ya. Tiap orang kan beda2. Dan Severn pemainbusuk@ gmail.com wrote: ada ga sih orang yang bisa sukses dari trading saham doank ? anggap tidak punya perusahaan atau pekerjaan lain sama sekali. jadi sehari hari hidup nya cuma melototin monitor dan trading aja. trus kalo bisa beli ini itu apa ndak didatangi orang pajakditanya penghasilan dari mana gitu .. -- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos. -- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BMTR ???
om bearish jangan godain anak orang dong om...kasiaaan^^ begini lho mas yang suka menolong-kan pahala- bmtr kemaren STOK SPLIT 1:5 so nyang tadinya 5000-an dibagi lima yaaa 1000-an...nah nyang punya dari 5000-an stoknya jadi 5 kali lipet...warga baru yaa di kampungnya mbah sini yaa mas ?? semoga membantu, gitto kurniasanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saya yg short bozz.. kemana aja...bozz? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Pahala Baringbing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BMTR (Global Mediacom) di tanggal 23/04/07 masih 5000-an.. keesokan harinya 24/04/07 diperdagangkan di harga 1000-an..dgn volume 144 juta lbr... Aneh sekali, kok gak disuspend ya? Apakah chart saya yg salah ya??? Edan tenan... dari 5000 ke 1000...hanya dalam satu hari... ektrem banget... ini saham sakit apa saya yg gak tau apa2 ??? mohon pencerahan dari para sesepuh...
[obrolan-bandar] PruLink.. Apaan tuh?? Bingung??
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] BMTR ???
kemungkinan itu harga setelah stock split 1:5 Pahala Baringbing wrote: BMTR (Global Mediacom) di tanggal 23/04/07 masih 5000-an.. keesokan harinya 24/04/07 diperdagangkan di harga 1000-an..dgn volume 144 juta lbr... Aneh sekali, kok gak disuspend ya? Apakah chart saya yg salah ya??? Edan tenan... dari 5000 ke 1000...hanya dalam satu hari... ektrem banget... ini saham sakit apa saya yg gak tau apa2 ??? mohon pencerahan dari para sesepuh...
Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM.... GO
ya lah email mr lee disimpan, tenang mr lee i had have this stock from 9rb-an, sebagian trading sebagian simpan jadi jimat ntar 25rb baru jualan dach, dari kemaren2 ogut khan udah rekomend ini saham, mr lee. riset yang ogut kirim lewat japri dibaca nggak mr lee regards On 4/26/07, Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andree.. I told you before.ANTM=US$2. check my email...I think you collect my email - Original Message From: Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, 26 April 2007 3:39:15PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM GO gila ada panic buying di antm euy On 4/26/07, James Arifin james.arifin@ gmail.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: khan sudah dibilangin dari kemarin2 kalau nggak ngikut yah salah sendiri. Disuruh SHORT nggak mau short giliran disuruh beli juga nggak mau, terus mau apa lagi ... bo hwat kata Ciu Pek Tong. Entar kalau di level 18000 disuruh SHORT lagi pada mikir mau langsung lari ke 25000 kapan belajarnya, giliran ditanya mau ambil posisi apa, jawabnya TRADER, giliran harga naik terus, ganti pikiran, jadi INVESTOR aja. Saat harga turun mikir lagi kenapa yah kemarin disuruh jual nggak jual khan mending jadi TRADER ... lama2 mati sendiri ganti posisi melulu. INCO, kenapa harus diSHORT karena secara TA INCO sudah bukan market mover lagi diganti sama pemain bangku cadangan yang sudah tidur hampir 6 bulan lebih. Di saat IHSG break high, INCO nggak break high artinya untuk sementara INCO hanya jadi setrikaan dulu. Alasan kedua karena chart mining nggak sudah jelek sedang downtrend, jadi mending cari sektor yang lagi uptrend. Semoga bung Andri mendapatkan pencerahan dari tulisan saya ini. On 4/26/07, Andri Wijaya andri.wijaya@ gmail.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gimana nich pak james, target akhir bulan 17-18 rb yach? tarik bozzz regards -- http://answers.yahoo.com.sg *Real people. Real questions. Real answers. Share what you knowhttp://answers.yahoo.com.sg *.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BMTR ???
ajak ogut makan donk mr bearish udah cuan gede dari short bmtr haa. On 4/26/07, mr.bearish_forever [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saya yg short bozz.. kemana aja...bozz? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Pahala Baringbing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BMTR (Global Mediacom) di tanggal 23/04/07 masih 5000-an.. keesokan harinya 24/04/07 diperdagangkan di harga 1000-an..dgn volume 144 juta lbr... Aneh sekali, kok gak disuspend ya? Apakah chart saya yg salah ya??? Edan tenan... dari 5000 ke 1000...hanya dalam satu hari... ektrem banget... ini saham sakit apa saya yg gak tau apa2 ??? mohon pencerahan dari para sesepuh...
[obrolan-bandar] Go .. go... ANTM, not nickel?
Pak Ha Min, Saya coba chart antm. Sambil menunggu data LK Q1 keluar. please comment... - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.Title: HTML document for the World Wide Web ANTM (ANTM) Data for 04/26/2007 Exp TrendN/A ANTM Open15,000.00 High15,950.00 Low14,750.00 Close15,850.00 Volume49,550,500 Open Int.0 Price Chg.950.00 AlphOmeg15,638.10 AO Ellio PS MACD MACD1,050.75 MA1,134.73 Vol49,550,500 Created in MetaStock from Equis International www.equis.com
[obrolan-bandar] BDMN Q1 07: net profit up 92%, IDR482bl vs IDR 251bl
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] BMTR ???
Wah, si boss ini gak ngikutin Setelah stock split 1:5, dari 5ribuan menjadi 1ribuan pas opening 2 hari lalu On 4/26/07, Bobby Irianto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: kemungkinan itu harga setelah stock split 1:5 Pahala Baringbing wrote: BMTR (Global Mediacom) di tanggal 23/04/07 masih 5000-an.. keesokan harinya 24/04/07 diperdagangkan di harga 1000-an..dgn volume 144 juta lbr... Aneh sekali, kok gak disuspend ya? Apakah chart saya yg salah ya??? Edan tenan... dari 5000 ke 1000...hanya dalam satu hari... ektrem banget... ini saham sakit apa saya yg gak tau apa2 ??? mohon pencerahan dari para sesepuh...
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BMTR ???
Apakah BMTR layak dikoleksi ? bagaimana pendapat para suhu2 ? thanks gitto kurniasanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: om bearish jangan godain anak orang dong om...kasiaaan^^ begini lho mas yang suka menolong-kan pahala- bmtr kemaren STOK SPLIT 1:5 so nyang tadinya 5000-an dibagi lima yaaa 1000-an...nah nyang punya dari 5000-an stoknya jadi 5 kali lipet...warga baru yaa di kampungnya mbah sini yaa mas ?? semoga membantu, gitto kurniasanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saya yg short bozz.. kemana aja...bozz? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Pahala Baringbing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BMTR (Global Mediacom) di tanggal 23/04/07 masih 5000-an.. keesokan harinya 24/04/07 diperdagangkan di harga 1000-an..dgn volume 144 juta lbr... Aneh sekali, kok gak disuspend ya? Apakah chart saya yg salah ya??? Edan tenan... dari 5000 ke 1000...hanya dalam satu hari... ektrem banget... ini saham sakit apa saya yg gak tau apa2 ??? mohon pencerahan dari para sesepuh... - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] hidup trader
Kalo sudah punya NPWP, kalo ternyata emang dapat penghasilan banyak dari saham, mending hidup dengan rendah hati aja. Simpan aja kekayaan dengan baik. Kalo misalnya dilaporin di SPT (sekedar koreksi: bukan SPP) tahunan pasal 21 pribadi, ntar ditanyain ama orang pajak lagi. Dari mana sumber penghasilan untuk main saham? Bisa2 berentet ke money laundring (kalo ini sih kemungkinan buruk). Biar aman, ya gak usah dikasih tahu. Lagian juga kita udah bayar pajak dan tidak emang gak bisa ngemplang pajak (kalo broker sih bisa ngemplang, karena dia yang motong pajak dari kita), hanya tidak dilaporkan saja di SPT penghasilan pribadi. Soalnya tahu sendirilah mental orang pajak di Indonesia, masih belum dewasa untuk menerima kekayaan orang lain / perusahaan lain, ntar minta jatah juga lagi. Saya rasa tidak akan pernah bisa dibuat peraturan pajak yang diambil dari capital gain. Puyeng ngitungnya. Makanya supaya praktis, dibuatlah peraturan pajak final supaya wajib pajak tidak usah repot2 ngitung dan orang kantor pajak juga tidak puyeng memeriksanya nanti. Apalagi bandar, bisa tambah pusing ngitung pajaknya kalo dia untung gede dengan transaksi yang berjibun. He he he he. On 4/26/07, Dan Severn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nahh investor gini dpt duitnya dr mana ? kyk nya kan mesti punya perusahaan dl sblmnya. - Original Message - *From:* Aria Bela Nusa [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Cc:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, April 26, 2007 6:13 AM *Subject:* RE: [obrolan-bandar] hidup trader Kalo ditanya begitu – buat pegangan (*BELIEF*) lihat 'aja terkaya di dunia WARREN BUFFET (sekarang orang terkaya no.3 + namanya mengandung saham (WARANT) kebetulan – setelah disusul TONY SLIM dr Amerika Latin) masih bisa *exists* sampe sekarang sbg* investor* yg berhasil banget (kalo sbg * trader* - saya rasa banyak juga dg nama2 populer)… Mengenai caranya bisa ada 2 (dua) – bisa *full-time* di saham (istilahnya *TRADING for a living* – *bukan **TRAINING for a living*, ya) – bisa juga sbg usaha sampingan (ada pekerjaan pokok mis sbg pegawai) à mana yg dipilih tergantung pilihan masing2 – yg pasti kalo pilihan 1 harus ada persiapan segala sesuatunya dulu (BELAJAR dulu – beli buku2, ikutan seminar2, kursus2 atau *club*, dll – dg persiapan2 yg mateng/luar-biasa + tentunya mengeluarkan uang/biaya yg cukup banyak – yg penting *tidak *ada yg gratisan)…Utk pilihan no 2 – ya tentunya lebih capek – pinter2 bagi waktu, harus ada komitmen, dstnya Tujuan utamanya yg penting modal tetep terpelihara (kalo bisa berkembang/bertumbuh) + oentoengs bisa selalu oentoengs tetep oentoengs Regards, Aria -- *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Johand Dimalouw *Sent:* Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:28 PM *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] hidup trader Rekan ML OB Pajak dari jual beli saham di BEJ dikenakan pajak yang bersifat final. Artinya ya itu saja sudah. Sama halnya bila kita tabung di bank dalam deposito atau tabungan dikenakan pajak Final atas bunga sebesar 20%. Dalam perdagangan saham di BEJ, saat kita beli yang menjual yang ke napajak dan saat kita jual kita dikenakan pajak juga. Jadi saat beli tak dipajak tapi saat jual dipajak, tak peduli untung atau rugi tetap kena pajak. Pajak jual alias Sales Tax ini besaranya 0,1% dari Nilai transaksi dan dipotong oleh Pialang Bursa (Broker) yang kita pakai. Makanya, kalau diperhatikan fee yang dikenakan broker ke kita, saat beli = xx %, dan saat jual = (xx + 0,1) %. Broker yang saya pakai besaran fee itu = 0,25% saat beli dan 0,35% saat jual dan diberi rinciannya. Mudah-mudahan membantu. Ini cerita santai saja soal saham. Ada rekan saya yang tanya saya, siapa orang terkaya di dunia saat ini. Saya jawab Bill Gates. Dia tanya lagi Kenapa Bill Gates bisa kaya? Saya jawab karena dia memilik perusahaan Microsoft, Dia Pemiliknya! kata saya. Rekan saya bantah dan bilang Banyak orang kok yang punya Microsoft, bukan Bill saja; tuh sahamnya dijual di bursa dan banyak orang yang beli. Jadi? saya balik bertanya. Dia jawab Banyak orang keliru soal ini, menurut saya orang terkaya di dunia nomor satu, si Bill itu dan nomor 2, si Warren itu, jadi kaya karena mereka memiliki Saham. Jadi kalau kau mau jadi kaya, kau harus memilik saham, bukan perusaahan, sahamnya saja. Lihat saja Oom William, Pendiri dan Pemilik Astra Int; itu. Karena sayang Anak dia jual sahamnya di Astra. Sekarang saham Astra milik orang lain khan? Jadi supaya kaya orang harus memilik saham, cara dengan membeli dan kemudian menjual dan beli lagi dst... dst..nya Saya terdiam dan mikir. Rasanya benar juga kata kawan itu. Saya mendengar cerita dari kawan yang lain bahwa Warren itu tidak mau memilik perusahan yang sahamnya dia beli, jadi dia limit maksimum kepemilikan sahamnya di angka 20% saja. Terima kasih JD - Original Message From: Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM.... GO
coba buang di 15500 kemarin, buy back di sekitar 14200 sudah berapa banyak tuh untungnya. anyway, selamat cuan yah ... ANTM emang emoi ... pasar taruhan lagi panas ... 100M bokk. On 4/26/07, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ada info laba Q1 2007 mencapai 1 trilyun. Nah...akan ke berapakah antm? 18 rb besok/Senin? Pak James, kan ada yang taruhan akhir bulan akan ke situ? hehehe... Seru nih nontonnya, film2 Hollywood aja kalah seru... *Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: gila ada panic buying di antm euy On 4/26/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: khan sudah dibilangin dari kemarin2 kalau nggak ngikut yah salah sendiri. Disuruh SHORT nggak mau short giliran disuruh beli juga nggak mau, terus mau apa lagi ... bo hwat kata Ciu Pek Tong. Entar kalau di level 18000 disuruh SHORT lagi pada mikir mau langsung lari ke 25000 kapan belajarnya, giliran ditanya mau ambil posisi apa, jawabnya TRADER, giliran harga naik terus, ganti pikiran, jadi INVESTOR aja. Saat harga turun mikir lagi kenapa yah kemarin disuruh jual nggak jual khan mending jadi TRADER ... lama2 mati sendiri ganti posisi melulu. INCO, kenapa harus diSHORT karena secara TA INCO sudah bukan market mover lagi diganti sama pemain bangku cadangan yang sudah tidur hampir 6 bulan lebih. Di saat IHSG break high, INCO nggak break high artinya untuk sementara INCO hanya jadi setrikaan dulu. Alasan kedua karena chart mining nggak sudah jelek sedang downtrend, jadi mending cari sektor yang lagi uptrend. Semoga bung Andri mendapatkan pencerahan dari tulisan saya ini. On 4/26/07, Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gimana nich pak james, target akhir bulan 17-18 rb yach? tarik bozzz regards -- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48245/*http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html;_ylc=X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3LWNhcnM-
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Besok JUMAT
thanks boss ... 600bio sudah menguasai lebih dari 25% market ... :)) makanya beli ANTM seperti orang kesurupan yah ... hit two price directly ... cheers, wong saya posisinya lagi adem2 nungguin awal Mei saat HF maturity On 4/26/07, Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi...hi Mr Arifeen. whatever will be. My friends (foreigners) buy more than Rp 600 bio today. So tomorrow. ? TGIF - Original Message From: James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan bandar obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, 26 April 2007 3:49:24PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Besok JUMAT Ingat besok Jum'at. Hari ini harap perhatikan jarak high dan close. Semoga kekhawatiran saya akan koreksi dalam tidak terjadi besok. Saya ingat kejadian waktu indeks tembus 1250 dengan sedikit dipaksakan mengakibatkan koreksi cukup dalam ke 950an. Sekarang 2005 kalau turun hingga 1820, cukup lumayan dalam loh -- http://answers.yahoo.com.sg/ *Real people. Real questions. Real answers. Share what you knowhttp://answers.yahoo.com.sg/ *.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: APOL Likely to Climb Up
Saat ini Mackenzie Cundill Investments sudah menguasai 9,34% saham APOL. Jangan-jangan bener2 akan naik. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Joe Grunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: APOL Likely to Climb Up - Friday, 20 April 2007 15:18:01 StockWatch (Jakarta) - Shares of PT Arpeni Pratama Ocean Line Tbk (APOL) which closed at IDR680 per share are likely to climb up considering that some technical indicators have indicated a trend of increase. An analyst of PT Reliance Securities Tbk (RELI), Ronny Nababan, said that on the technical side, the triangle pattern had confirmed a breakout on April 18 which is a sign of reversal trend. Nababan said the Demand Index indicator still moves above the zero line, and so does the DMI indicator, while the sign of consolidation is indicated only by the RSI and the short-term Stochastic indicators which have become overbought. APOL is likely to enter the process of consolidation in the short term, and this is the right time to accumulate the shares, he said. Meanwhile, the shares have price-to-earning ratio (PER) of 10x and price-to-book value (PBV) of 1.39x, while the PER of the similar stocks like PT Samudera Indonesia Tbk (SMDR) for example, has reached 13.4x with PBV of 0.73x, he said. (esta/bud) - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
RE: [obrolan-bandar] PruLink.. Apaan tuh?? Bingung??
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] hidup trader
Bekul sekali - sifatnya hanya melapor 'aja, ya - sama seperti kita kerja di kantor (orang gajian) kita masing2 hanya melapor 'aja penghasilan kita ke Pajak - yg sebetulnya telah dibayar/dipotong pajak langsung oleh perusahaan scr kolektif Regards, Aria -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of saidkat Sent: 26 April 2007 16:35 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] hidup trader betul pak 0,1% final dari penjualan aja, bukan dari capital gain. mumpung bloom ada pajak capital gain mending lapor aja di spp kita, jadi bisa blanja macem2 dengen tenang dari pada kena pph mulu yang naek terus mending dari stock trader. Jayamudita wrote: Apakah Anda sudah memiliki NPWP? Jika sudah, laporkan penghasilan dari trading saham dalam SPP dan masukkan keuntungan dalam penambahan kekayaan pribadi, hasil dari trading (untung maupun rugi) sudah dipotong pajak Pph final, jadi hasil bersih dari kegiatan tsb adalah legal dan sudah bayar pajak, mengapa harus takut orang pajak? Salam, Tommy Jayamudita - Original Message - From: Rei mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] hidup trader Ada kok...tapi soal pajak saya kurang tahu (mana berani tanya?) Tapi kok rasanya kurang afdol hidup dari saham saja...yah, nggak tahu juga ya. Tiap orang kan beda2. Dan Severn pemainbusuk@ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] gmail.com wrote: ada ga sih orang yang bisa sukses dari trading saham doank ? anggap tidak punya perusahaan atau pekerjaan lain sama sekali. jadi sehari hari hidup nya cuma melototin monitor dan trading aja. trus kalo bisa beli ini itu apa ndak didatangi orang pajakditanya penghasilan dari mana gitu.. _ Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48245/*http:/autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html;_ ylc=X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3LWNhcnM- cars at Yahoo! Autos. _ Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48245/*http:/autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html;_ ylc=X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3LWNhcnM- cars at Yahoo! Autos.
RE: {Disarmed} Re: [obrolan-bandar] Besok JUMAT
I absolutely agree with Pak Karno (the Real Player) - caused
Value trx is matter (5.5 T) today as supporting the Price raised.
Happy chuan,
Aria
-Original Message-
From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karno
Sent: 26 April 2007 16:09
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: {Disarmed} Re: [obrolan-bandar] Besok JUMAT
I bet tomorrow JCI will close +15 or higher.
Teorinya begini, kalo udah tembus nanggung kalo separo-separo...kurang
enakkk..hueueuhhehehheh Sederhana saja.
- Original Message -
From: James Arifin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan bandar mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:49 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Besok JUMAT
Ingat besok Jum'at. Hari ini harap perhatikan jarak high dan close.
Semoga kekhawatiran saya akan koreksi dalam tidak terjadi besok. Saya
ingat kejadian waktu indeks tembus 1250 dengan sedikit dipaksakan
mengakibatkan koreksi cukup dalam ke 950an. Sekarang 2005 kalau turun
hingga 1820, cukup lumayan dalam loh
[obrolan-bandar] MLPL MTDL
MLPL dan MTDL mau di bawa ke mana nih saham ? gw kalo beli skr telat kagak yah ?
Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM.... GO
Perlu diingat bahwa saham ANTM itu adalah saham sebuah perusahaan, bukan semata-mata barang komoditi tambang yang diperdagangkan dengan perubahan harga sewaktu-waktu, pengaruh harga tambang yang terjadi saat ini memang ada pengaruhnya sedikit, tapi kinerja perusahaan itu sendiri yang menentukan nilai harga sahamnya. 2 minggu yang lalu harga nikel juga pernah turun sampai 6% lebih, tapi harga ANTM tetap naik kembali. Kalau memang ternyata ANTM memiliki fundamental yang bagus, tentu orang yang beli di 15900 tidak gila. Beli saham adalah membeli perusahaan. Salam, Tommy Jayamudita - Original Message - From: Halim Mintareja To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:53 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM GO Hari ini ada trader gila.. sudah tahu harga nickel turun sudah tahu stock nickel di LME naik menjadi year high tapi masih saja nekad masuk di 15900 kita lihat bagaimana nasib trader gila itu besok On 4/26/07, Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gila ada panic buying di antm euy On 4/26/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: khan sudah dibilangin dari kemarin2 kalau nggak ngikut yah salah sendiri. Disuruh SHORT nggak mau short giliran disuruh beli juga nggak mau, terus mau apa lagi ... bo hwat kata Ciu Pek Tong. Entar kalau di level 18000 disuruh SHORT lagi pada mikir mau langsung lari ke 25000 kapan belajarnya, giliran ditanya mau ambil posisi apa, jawabnya TRADER, giliran harga naik terus, ganti pikiran, jadi INVESTOR aja. Saat harga turun mikir lagi kenapa yah kemarin disuruh jual nggak jual khan mending jadi TRADER ... lama2 mati sendiri ganti posisi melulu. INCO, kenapa harus diSHORT karena secara TA INCO sudah bukan market mover lagi diganti sama pemain bangku cadangan yang sudah tidur hampir 6 bulan lebih. Di saat IHSG break high, INCO nggak break high artinya untuk sementara INCO hanya jadi setrikaan dulu. Alasan kedua karena chart mining nggak sudah jelek sedang downtrend, jadi mending cari sektor yang lagi uptrend. Semoga bung Andri mendapatkan pencerahan dari tulisan saya ini. On 4/26/07, Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gimana nich pak james, target akhir bulan 17-18 rb yach? tarik bozzz regards
Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM.... GO
ANTM Q4: harga rata2 nickel = 31800 ; net profit = 744 M ; EPS = 390 Q1: harga rata2 nickel = 38800 ; net profit = ? ; EPS = ? harga rata2 nickel untuk bulan april saja 45000. misal nickel turun, $35000/MT masi jadi support kuat untuk Q2 PER ANTM dengan data EPS Q4 aja masih lebih menarik dibanding PER PTBA dengan data EPS Q1.. jadi, siapa yg gila? hehehee On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 17:21:22 +0700, Jonni Amin, CFA, FRM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pasti di atas Rp 1 triliun. Untuk Q4 saja kira2 Rp 800 milyar (sebelum bonus dan harga nickel waktu itu belum setinggi sekarang). Proyek Q1 2007 pasti di atas Rp 1 triliun karena harga nickel sekarang jauh diatas Q4 2006. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM.... GO
Yang gila TIDAK adalah. Yang Gila-gilaan Banyak, termasuk IHSG yg lari menuju 2100, 2200, 2300, .. JD - Original Message From: Odink [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 2:46:19 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM GO ANTM Q4: harga rata2 nickel = 31800 ; net profit = 744 M ; EPS = 390 Q1: harga rata2 nickel = 38800 ; net profit = ? ; EPS = ? harga rata2 nickel untuk bulan april saja 45000. misal nickel turun, $35000/MT masi jadi support kuat untuk Q2 PER ANTM dengan data EPS Q4 aja masih lebih menarik dibanding PER PTBA dengan data EPS Q1.. jadi, siapa yg gila? hehehee On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 17:21:22 +0700, Jonni Amin, CFA, FRM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pasti di atas Rp 1 triliun. Untuk Q4 saja kira2 Rp 800 milyar (sebelum bonus dan harga nickel waktu itu belum setinggi sekarang). Proyek Q1 2007 pasti di atas Rp 1 triliun karena harga nickel sekarang jauh diatas Q4 2006. Yahoo! Groups Links __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: [obrolan-bandar] BMTR - ???
maaf nih pak, kemarin BMTR stock split From: Pahala Baringbing [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BMTR - ??? Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 10:45:11 - BMTR (Global Mediacom) di tanggal 23/04/07 masih 5000-an.. keesokan harinya 24/04/07 diperdagangkan di harga 1000-an..dgn volume 144 juta lbr... Aneh sekali, kok gak disuspend ya? Apakah chart saya yg salah ya??? Edan tenan... dari 5000 ke 1000...hanya dalam satu hari... ektrem banget... ini saham sakit apa saya yg gak tau apa2 ??? mohon pencerahan dari para sesepuh... _ Search from any Web page with powerful protection. Get the FREE Windows Live Toolbar Today! http://toolbar.live.com/?mkt=en-id
[obrolan-bandar] Penggunaan Nickel Dan Timah
Harga timah sekarang mulai menurun, apakah harga nickel sampai akhir tahun tidak ada tendensi mengikuti? Mohon infonya kalau ada yang tahu, penggunaan sehari-hari timah dan nikel itu untuk apa ya sehingga harganya bisa meroket setahun ini ? Thanks atas pencerahannya. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM.... GO
Trader Gila.. tadi malam dapat SMS dari teman.. katanya net profit 1Q07 ANTM 1T Setelah baca koran hari ini ... trader gila berpikir sejenak.. hari ini trader gila mau tambah ANTM lagi he..h.e... On 4/26/07, Eddy S. Purnomo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Itu mungkin karena melihat profit 1Q07 ANTM = 1 Te, Pak. - Original Message - *From:* Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:53 PM *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM GO Hari ini ada trader gila.. sudah tahu harga nickel turun sudah tahu stock nickel di LME naik menjadi year high tapi masih saja nekad masuk di 15900 kita lihat bagaimana nasib trader gila itu besok On 4/26/07, Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gila ada panic buying di antm euy On 4/26/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: khan sudah dibilangin dari kemarin2 kalau nggak ngikut yah salah sendiri. Disuruh SHORT nggak mau short giliran disuruh beli juga nggak mau, terus mau apa lagi ... bo hwat kata Ciu Pek Tong. Entar kalau di level 18000 disuruh SHORT lagi pada mikir mau langsung lari ke 25000 kapan belajarnya, giliran ditanya mau ambil posisi apa, jawabnya TRADER, giliran harga naik terus, ganti pikiran, jadi INVESTOR aja. Saat harga turun mikir lagi kenapa yah kemarin disuruh jual nggak jual khan mending jadi TRADER ... lama2 mati sendiri ganti posisi melulu. INCO, kenapa harus diSHORT karena secara TA INCO sudah bukan market mover lagi diganti sama pemain bangku cadangan yang sudah tidur hampir 6 bulan lebih. Di saat IHSG break high, INCO nggak break high artinya untuk sementara INCO hanya jadi setrikaan dulu. Alasan kedua karena chart mining nggak sudah jelek sedang downtrend, jadi mending cari sektor yang lagi uptrend. Semoga bung Andri mendapatkan pencerahan dari tulisan saya ini. On 4/26/07, Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gimana nich pak james, target akhir bulan 17-18 rb yach? tarik bozzz regards
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Penggunaan Nickel Dan Timah
Setahu saya timah itu yang dikertas rokok ya? He he he, walau saya punya saham timah tapi juga tidak tahu juga buat apa. Mohon pencerahan juga On 4/27/07, Ricky Dahlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Harga timah sekarang mulai menurun, apakah harga nickel sampai akhir tahun tidak ada tendensi mengikuti? Mohon infonya kalau ada yang tahu, penggunaan sehari-hari timah dan nikel itu untuk apa ya sehingga harganya bisa meroket setahun ini ? Thanks atas pencerahannya. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Penggunaan Nickel Dan Timah
Baca2 basemetals.com pak utk cari2 info. Nickel masih akan tinggi tahun ini. Ricky Dahlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Harga timah sekarang mulai menurun, apakah harga nickel sampai akhir tahun tidak ada tendensi mengikuti? Mohon infonya kalau ada yang tahu, penggunaan sehari-hari timah dan nikel itu untuk apa ya sehingga harganya bisa meroket setahun ini ? Thanks atas pencerahannya. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
[obrolan-bandar] Berita nikel ini, apa pengaruhanya ya?
Dear rekans, Berita ttg nikel ini, apa pengaruhanya ya terhadap ANTM dan INCO untuk short, med dan long term? Posco introduces nickel-free stainless steel Posco, the world's fourth-largest steel maker, will raise output of a nickel-free stainless steel fivefold next year as the price of nickel has hit a record. Posco plans to sell 10,000 tonnes a month of the steel, which it introduced this month, from 2,000 this year, the Pohang-based firm said yesterday. The steel, which uses chromium instead of nickel, is the equivalent of US$2,470 a tonne, half the price of so-called 300-series cold-rolled coil steel. Posco has raised stainless steel prices four times this year because of the cost of nickel. While Posco's product is not the first of its kind and may be similar to products in U.S. markets, it does represent the acceleration in substitution by consumers, said Alan Heap, Citigroup analyst. It's a trend towards low and no nickel content alloys and away from austenitic nickel steel that's being driven by high nickel prices and short availability. Citigroup expects substitution will likely slow nickel consumption growth in 2007 to 7.5%, from 10.5% in 2006. However, it still expects a supply deficit of 9,000 tons.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM.... GO
Bull's eye! Mantap dah Pak Tommy... Jayamudita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Perlu diingat bahwa saham ANTM itu adalah saham sebuah perusahaan, bukan semata-mata barang komoditi tambang yang diperdagangkan dengan perubahan harga sewaktu-waktu, pengaruh harga tambang yang terjadi saat ini memang ada pengaruhnya sedikit, tapi kinerja perusahaan itu sendiri yang menentukan nilai harga sahamnya. 2 minggu yang lalu harga nikel juga pernah turun sampai 6% lebih, tapi harga ANTM tetap naik kembali. Kalau memang ternyata ANTM memiliki fundamental yang bagus, tentu orang yang beli di 15900 tidak gila. Beli saham adalah membeli perusahaan. Salam, Tommy Jayamudita - Original Message - From: Halim Mintareja To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:53 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM GO Hari ini ada trader gila.. sudah tahu harga nickel turun sudah tahu stock nickel di LME naik menjadi year high tapi masih saja nekad masuk di 15900 kita lihat bagaimana nasib trader gila itu besok On 4/26/07, Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gila ada panic buying di antm euy On 4/26/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: khan sudah dibilangin dari kemarin2 kalau nggak ngikut yah salah sendiri. Disuruh SHORT nggak mau short giliran disuruh beli juga nggak mau, terus mau apa lagi ... bo hwat kata Ciu Pek Tong. Entar kalau di level 18000 disuruh SHORT lagi pada mikir mau langsung lari ke 25000 kapan belajarnya, giliran ditanya mau ambil posisi apa, jawabnya TRADER, giliran harga naik terus, ganti pikiran, jadi INVESTOR aja. Saat harga turun mikir lagi kenapa yah kemarin disuruh jual nggak jual khan mending jadi TRADER ... lama2 mati sendiri ganti posisi melulu. INCO, kenapa harus diSHORT karena secara TA INCO sudah bukan market mover lagi diganti sama pemain bangku cadangan yang sudah tidur hampir 6 bulan lebih. Di saat IHSG break high, INCO nggak break high artinya untuk sementara INCO hanya jadi setrikaan dulu. Alasan kedua karena chart mining nggak sudah jelek sedang downtrend, jadi mending cari sektor yang lagi uptrend. Semoga bung Andri mendapatkan pencerahan dari tulisan saya ini. On 4/26/07, Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gimana nich pak james, target akhir bulan 17-18 rb yach? tarik bozzz regards - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM.... GO
maaf om halim, trader yg gila tsb sebenarnya gak gila tp itulah trader yg oye punya karna ia yakin dan liat bahwa trader2 lain lg jd suster ngesot, so dg sedikit serangan, dia berhasil menakuti trader yg lg jd suster ngesot. syg antm mahal harganya klo gak,blh jg tuh ikutan kemaren. --- Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Setuju, lagipula dulu waktu nickel naik besoknya inco malah turun. Jadi saya rasa harga nickel sedikit berpengaruh pada harga antm atau inco krn BANDAR hanya menggunakan alasan harga nickel naik/turn kalo memang ada maksud ingin menaikan/menurunkan harga saham ybs. Go Antm Go... Go Inco Go... Jonni Amin, CFA, FRM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Asalkan nickel masih di atas $30,000 per MT, baik INCO maupun ANTM masih bagus. GO ANTM GO INCO. - Original Message - From: Halim Mintareja To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:53 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM GO Hari ini ada trader gila.. sudah tahu harga nickel turun sudah tahu stock nickel di LME naik menjadi year high tapi masih saja nekad masuk di 15900 kita lihat bagaimana nasib trader gila itu besok On 4/26/07, Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gila ada panic buying di antm euy On 4/26/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: khan sudah dibilangin dari kemarin2 kalau nggak ngikut yah salah sendiri. Disuruh SHORT nggak mau short giliran disuruh beli juga nggak mau, terus mau apa lagi ... bo hwat kata Ciu Pek Tong. Entar kalau di level 18000 disuruh SHORT lagi pada mikir mau langsung lari ke 25000 kapan belajarnya, giliran ditanya mau ambil posisi apa, jawabnya TRADER, giliran harga naik terus, ganti pikiran, jadi INVESTOR aja. Saat harga turun mikir lagi kenapa yah kemarin disuruh jual nggak jual khan mending jadi TRADER ... lama2 mati sendiri ganti posisi melulu. INCO, kenapa harus diSHORT karena secara TA INCO sudah bukan market mover lagi diganti sama pemain bangku cadangan yang sudah tidur hampir 6 bulan lebih. Di saat IHSG break high, INCO nggak break high artinya untuk sementara INCO hanya jadi setrikaan dulu. Alasan kedua karena chart mining nggak sudah jelek sedang downtrend, jadi mending cari sektor yang lagi uptrend. Semoga bung Andri mendapatkan pencerahan dari tulisan saya ini. On 4/26/07, Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gimana nich pak james, target akhir bulan 17-18 rb yach? tarik bozzz regards - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. PSB Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Berita nikel ini, apa pengaruhanya ya?
*Sekedar tambahan berita dari bloomberg* Nickel Falls on Speculation Steelmakers May Cut Use; Tin Drops By Brett Foley and Chanyaporn Chanjaroen April 26 (Bloomberg) -- Nickel extended a decline for a third consecutive day in London on speculation that stainless- steel makers, the biggest consumers of the metal, will cut use. Tin and copper also dropped. Posco, the world's fourth-largest steelmaker, will increase output of a nickel-free stainless-steel product fivefold by next year after nickel rose to a record, the South Korean company said yesterday. Nickel consumers are using stockpiles, said Michael Widmer, head of metals research at Calyon, one of 11 companies trading on the London Metal Exchange's floor. ``It's the demand side that is taking prices lower,'' Widmer said in a telephone interview in London. Nickel for delivery in three months on the LME dropped $750, or 1.6 percent, to $46,550 a metric ton as of 1:40 p.m. local time. The contract traded at $50,200 a ton April 24, the highest ever. The metal has gained 40 percent this year as demand from China, the world's largest user, expanded. Prices are ``excessive'' and may lead to a decline, Eramet SA, operator of the world's largest ferronickel plant, said yesterday. Stainless-steel production growth will slow to 1.6 percent this year, triggering a decline in nickel prices, steel industry consulting company MEPS (International) Ltd. said April 2. Outokumpu Oyj said April 24 it will cut its stainless-steel output by about 10 percent in the second quarter because customers are using inventories instead of placing orders. Inventories of nickel monitored by the LME gained 4.3 percent to 5,052 tons, taking the increase for this week to 25 percent. Stockpiles are still ``low,'' Widmer said. Peru Strike Tin fell for a third consecutive day on speculation that Indonesia, the world's second-largest producer of the metal, will export more metal. The Southeast Asian nation's government awarded five more tin-export licenses, bringing to 10 the number of companies that can ship the metal overseas. The metal dropped $190 to $13,310 a ton on the LME. Copper declined $100, or 1.3 percent, to $7,760 a ton, after earlier rising as much as 1.1 percent to $7,948 a ton. The price will be supported by falling stockpiles and a labor dispute in Peru, Alex Heath, head of the base-metals trading team at RBC Capital Markets in London, said by telephone. Inventories monitored by the LME fell for an eighth consecutive day to their lowest since Dec. 7. Workers from Southern Copper Corp.'s Ilo smelter said they will strike over wages as soon as April 28. The Phoenix-based company is the world's fifth-largest copper producer. At least 48 Peruvian labor unions said they will join a national mining strike on April 30, Jesus del Castillo, a spokesman for the Lima-based Mining Federation, said April 20. The group represents about 28,000 mine was unchanged at $2,822 a ton, lead fell $10 to $1,970, and zinc dropped $35 to $3,720. To contact the reporters on this story: Brett Foley in London at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Chanyaporn Chanjaroen in London at [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 4/27/07, Wiro Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear rekans, Berita ttg nikel ini, apa pengaruhanya ya terhadap ANTM dan INCO untuk short, med dan long term? Posco introduces nickel-free stainless steel Posco, the world's fourth-largest steel maker, will raise output of a nickel-free stainless steel fivefold next year as the price of nickel has hit a record. Posco plans to sell 10,000 tonnes a month of the steel, which it introduced this month, from 2,000 this year, the Pohang-based firm said yesterday. The steel, which uses chromium instead of nickel, is the equivalent of US$2,470 a tonne, half the price of so-called 300-series cold-rolled coil steel. Posco has raised stainless steel prices four times this year because of the cost of nickel. While Posco's product is not the first of its kind and may be similar to products in U.S. markets, it does represent the acceleration in substitution by consumers, said Alan Heap, Citigroup analyst. It's a trend towards low and no nickel content alloys and away from austenitic nickel steel that's being driven by high nickel prices and short availability. Citigroup expects substitution will likely slow nickel consumption growth in 2007 to 7.5%, from 10.5% in 2006. However, it still expects a supply deficit of 9,000 tons.
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BMTR ???
Makanya data di koran nggak bisa dijadikan patokan. Kalo gak salah mereka juga menyatakan tidak bertanggung jawab kalau ada kesalahan. Bersyukurlah kalo Bapak sudah ngerti hitungan ttg ratio. - Original Message - From: Dodi Aulia To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:52 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BMTR ??? Kalo saya liat dari sisi PER, sebelum stock split PER yang diinformasikan di koran Bisnis Indonesia (di bagian data bursa) untuk BMTR sebelum stock split adalah sekitar 3X,X. Tetapi, saat ini PER BMTR yang diinformasikan di koran Bisnis Indonesia adalah sekitar 6,X; yang berarti juga diturunkan sekitar 1/5 dari PER sebelum stock split. Padahal, berdasarkan pengetahuan yang saya punya, bukannya harusnya tidak ada pengaruh stock split ke PER ratio karena walaupun harga dibagi 5, jumlah saham beredar juga dikali 5? Mungkin ada rekan-rekan yang bisa membantu kenapa PER ratio juga dibagi seperti yang diinformasikan di koran Bisnis Indonesia (di bagian data bursa) ? Karena informasi ini bisa menyesatkan pembaca yang tidak begitu mengamati perkembangan saham ini. Kalau misalnya pengertian saya salah, berarti PER ratio BMTR masih cukup menarik untuk dijadikan pegangan. Tetapi kalau pengertian saya benar, harusnya PER ratio BMTR sebenarnya sudah cukup tinggi. Tapi, kalau Bozz dan bandar sudah mengayunkan invisible hand-nya, apapun teori FA dan TA tidak akan berdaya menghadapinya. Trims On 4/26/07, Michael So [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apakah BMTR layak dikoleksi ? bagaimana pendapat para suhu2 ? thanks gitto kurniasanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: om bearish jangan godain anak orang dong om...kasiaaan^^ begini lho mas yang suka menolong-kan pahala- bmtr kemaren STOK SPLIT 1:5 so nyang tadinya 5000-an dibagi lima yaaa 1000-an...nah nyang punya dari 5000-an stoknya jadi 5 kali lipet...warga baru yaa di kampungnya mbah sini yaa mas ?? semoga membantu, gitto kurniasanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saya yg short bozz.. kemana aja...bozz? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Pahala Baringbing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BMTR (Global Mediacom) di tanggal 23/04/07 masih 5000-an.. keesokan harinya 24/04/07 diperdagangkan di harga 1000-an..dgn volume 144 juta lbr... Aneh sekali, kok gak disuspend ya? Apakah chart saya yg salah ya??? Edan tenan... dari 5000 ke 1000...hanya dalam satu hari... ektrem banget... ini saham sakit apa saya yg gak tau apa2 ??? mohon pencerahan dari para sesepuh... Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Berita nikel ini, apa pengaruhanya ya?
SELL INCO ANTM? On 4/27/07, Dodi Aulia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Sekedar tambahan berita dari bloomberg* Nickel Falls on Speculation Steelmakers May Cut Use; Tin Drops By Brett Foley and Chanyaporn Chanjaroen April 26 (Bloomberg) -- Nickel extended a decline for a third consecutive day in London on speculation that stainless- steel makers, the biggest consumers of the metal, will cut use. Tin and copper also dropped. Posco, the world's fourth-largest steelmaker, will increase output of a nickel-free stainless-steel product fivefold by next year after nickel rose to a record, the South Korean company said yesterday. Nickel consumers are using stockpiles, said Michael Widmer, head of metals research at Calyon, one of 11 companies trading on the London Metal Exchange's floor. ``It's the demand side that is taking prices lower,'' Widmer said in a telephone interview in London. Nickel for delivery in three months on the LME dropped $750, or 1.6percent, to $46,550 a metric ton as of 1:40 p.m. local time. The contract traded at $50,200 a ton April 24, the highest ever. The metal has gained 40 percent this year as demand from China, the world's largest user, expanded. Prices are ``excessive'' and may lead to a decline, Eramet SA, operator of the world's largest ferronickel plant, said yesterday. Stainless-steel production growth will slow to 1.6 percent this year, triggering a decline in nickel prices, steel industry consulting company MEPS (International) Ltd. said April 2. Outokumpu Oyj said April 24 it will cut its stainless-steel output by about 10 percent in the second quarter because customers are using inventories instead of placing orders. Inventories of nickel monitored by the LME gained 4.3 percent to 5,052 tons, taking the increase for this week to 25 percent. Stockpiles are still ``low,'' Widmer said. Peru Strike Tin fell for a third consecutive day on speculation that Indonesia, the world's second-largest producer of the metal, will export more metal. The Southeast Asian nation's government awarded five more tin-export licenses, bringing to 10 the number of companies that can ship the metal overseas. The metal dropped $190 to $13,310 a ton on the LME. Copper declined $100, or 1.3 percent, to $7,760 a ton, after earlier rising as much as 1.1 percent to $7,948 a ton. The price will be supported by falling stockpiles and a labor dispute in Peru, Alex Heath, head of the base-metals trading team at RBC Capital Markets in London, said by telephone. Inventories monitored by the LME fell for an eighth consecutive day to their lowest since Dec. 7. Workers from Southern Copper Corp.'s Ilo smelter said they will strike over wages as soon as April 28. The Phoenix-based company is the world's fifth-largest copper producer. At least 48 Peruvian labor unions said they will join a national mining strike on April 30, Jesus del Castillo, a spokesman for the Lima-based Mining Federation, said April 20. The group represents about 28,000 mine was unchanged at $2,822 a ton, lead fell $10 to $1,970, and zinc dropped $35 to $3,720. To contact the reporters on this story: Brett Foley in London at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Chanyaporn Chanjaroen in London at [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 4/27/07, Wiro Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear rekans, Berita ttg nikel ini, apa pengaruhanya ya terhadap ANTM dan INCO untuk short, med dan long term? Posco introduces nickel-free stainless steel Posco, the world's fourth-largest steel maker, will raise output of a nickel-free stainless steel fivefold next year as the price of nickel has hit a record. Posco plans to sell 10,000 tonnes a month of the steel, which it introduced this month, from 2,000 this year, the Pohang-based firm said yesterday. The steel, which uses chromium instead of nickel, is the equivalent of US$2,470 a tonne, half the price of so-called 300-series cold-rolled coil steel. Posco has raised stainless steel prices four times this year because of the cost of nickel. While Posco's product is not the first of its kind and may be similar to products in U.S. markets, it does represent the acceleration in substitution by consumers, said Alan Heap, Citigroup analyst. It's a trend towards low and no nickel content alloys and away from austenitic nickel steel that's being driven by high nickel prices and short availability. Citigroup expects substitution will likely slow nickel consumption growth in 2007 to 7.5%, from 10.5% in 2006. However, it still expects a supply deficit of 9,000 tons.
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: BMTR ???
oalahhh... :))) tnyta stock split... case closed.. makasih buat bapak-bapak semua yg udah jelasin .. juga buat yg ngeshort... :) ogut ini kan main saham recehan masih kelas TK Kecil... istilahnya FS... player who know nothing
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Berita nikel ini, apa pengaruhanya ya? -- Bingung
Yang hobi ama saham INCO ANTM bingung. Rumors net profit ANTM 1T membuat ekspektasi harga harusnya naik tinggi. Berita Harga Nickle LME turun membuat ekspektasi harga harusnya ikut turun. Liat di market pagi ini turun tapi ada tarik menarik di ANTM. bingung nih mau jual atau mau tambah muatan... Sore hari ada trader gila lagi gak yach ?... - Original Message - From: Bettina Tan To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Berita nikel ini, apa pengaruhanya ya? SELL INCO ANTM? On 4/27/07, Dodi Aulia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sekedar tambahan berita dari bloomberg Nickel Falls on Speculation Steelmakers May Cut Use; Tin Drops By Brett Foley and Chanyaporn Chanjaroen April 26 (Bloomberg) -- Nickel extended a decline for a third consecutive day in London on speculation that stainless- steel makers, the biggest consumers of the metal, will cut use. Tin and copper also dropped. Posco, the world's fourth-largest steelmaker, will increase output of a nickel-free stainless-steel product fivefold by next year after nickel rose to a record, the South Korean company said yesterday. Nickel consumers are using stockpiles, said Michael Widmer, head of metals research at Calyon, one of 11 companies trading on the London Metal Exchange's floor. ``It's the demand side that is taking prices lower,'' Widmer said in a telephone interview in London. Nickel for delivery in three months on the LME dropped $750, or 1.6 percent, to $46,550 a metric ton as of 1:40 p.m. local time. The contract traded at $50,200 a ton April 24, the highest ever. The metal has gained 40 percent this year as demand from China, the world's largest user, expanded. Prices are ``excessive'' and may lead to a decline, Eramet SA, operator of the world's largest ferronickel plant, said yesterday. Stainless-steel production growth will slow to 1.6 percent this year, triggering a decline in nickel prices, steel industry consulting company MEPS (International) Ltd. said April 2. Outokumpu Oyj said April 24 it will cut its stainless-steel output by about 10 percent in the second quarter because customers are using inventories instead of placing orders. Inventories of nickel monitored by the LME gained 4.3 percent to 5,052 tons, taking the increase for this week to 25 percent. Stockpiles are still ``low,'' Widmer said. Peru Strike Tin fell for a third consecutive day on speculation that Indonesia, the world's second-largest producer of the metal, will export more metal. The Southeast Asian nation's government awarded five more tin-export licenses, bringing to 10 the number of companies that can ship the metal overseas. The metal dropped $190 to $13,310 a ton on the LME. Copper declined $100, or 1.3 percent, to $7,760 a ton, after earlier rising as much as 1.1 percent to $7,948 a ton. The price will be supported by falling stockpiles and a labor dispute in Peru, Alex Heath, head of the base-metals trading team at RBC Capital Markets in London, said by telephone. Inventories monitored by the LME fell for an eighth consecutive day to their lowest since Dec. 7. Workers from Southern Copper Corp.'s Ilo smelter said they will strike over wages as soon as April 28. The Phoenix-based company is the world's fifth-largest copper producer. At least 48 Peruvian labor unions said they will join a national mining strike on April 30, Jesus del Castillo, a spokesman for the Lima-based Mining Federation, said April 20. The group represents about 28,000 mine was unchanged at $2,822 a ton, lead fell $10 to $1,970, and zinc dropped $35 to $3,720. To contact the reporters on this story: Brett Foley in London at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Chanyaporn Chanjaroen in London at [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 4/27/07, Wiro Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear rekans, Berita ttg nikel ini, apa pengaruhanya ya terhadap ANTM dan INCO untuk short, med dan long term? Posco introduces nickel-free stainless steel Posco, the world's fourth-largest steel maker, will raise output of a nickel-free stainless steel fivefold next year as the price of nickel has hit a record. Posco plans to sell 10,000 tonnes a month of the steel, which it introduced this month, from 2,000 this year, the Pohang-based firm said yesterday. The steel, which uses chromium instead of nickel, is the equivalent of US$2,470 a tonne, half the price of so-called 300-series cold-rolled coil steel. Posco has raised stainless steel prices four times this year because of the cost of nickel. While Posco's product is not the first of its kind and may be similar to products in U.S. markets, it does represent the acceleration in substitution by consumers, said Alan Heap, Citigroup analyst. It's a
Re: [obrolan-bandar] SHORT!! lock your profit.
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[obrolan-bandar] Fw: Banks' results - key takeaways from analysts meet
Subject: FW: Banks' results - key takeaways from analysts meet Erwan Teguh/RES/JK/GKGOH 04/26/2007 07:40 PM To cc Subject Banks' results - key takeaways from analysts meet Bank Danamon (BDMN IJ, Rp6,750) - The good a.. Earnings grew 92% YoY; b.. Strong asset growth, NIM expansion (2nd highest after Bank Rakyat at 10% in 1Q07) and well provisioned; c.. Diversified on high yielding assets, with exposure to micro financing, therefore cushioned from brewing price war among banks vying for so called SME commercial and more mundane consumer loans such as mortgage; d.. Momentum is building and should see better quarters ahead; e.. Under performed thus far after a strong share price surge in 4Q06, likely upgrades and therefore expect robust share price from now; f.. Valuations at 3.2x and 16x PBV and PER respectively; Bank Rakyat (BBRI IJ, Rp5,500) - The poor a.. Tepid earnings growth of 4.6% YoY, weighed down by high provisioning at Rp667.4bn in 1Q07; b.. Provisioning is on conservative side, more than what Central Bank's requirement, claimed the management, and largely due to customers with direct exposure to Lapindo mudflow disaster; c.. The management said the bank has fully provisioned for Rp932bn exposure to mudflow victims as well as Yogja's earthquake which it had Rp212bn exposure; d.. Judging from recent settlement between government and representatives of victims, there's a very low probability loans written off can be recovered; e.. On the contrary, more may have to be provisioned for, given the ever-spreading mudflow. The management seemed to concur; f.. That aside, core businesses are doing ok, though 1Q was less impressive than others, its past seasonality suggests better quarters ahead, 2Q in particular; g.. Having said that, its core business, currently at over 86% of total portfolio, may come down (threshold is 80%) as the bank is 'asked' to finance large infra and agri related projects, which give lower yields; h.. Valuations at 3.5x and 13x PBV and PER, most expensive on PBV front suggest little room for errors. Bank International Indonesia (BNII IJ, Rp200) - The ugly a.. Significant earnings decline of nearly 35% YoY, worst bank performance thus far; b.. Not much respite from the analyst meet as more provisioning expected as the bank absorbed the motorcycle financing company, WOM Finance (WOMF IJ), into its fold. The management expects the process completed by YE07; c.. Its loan book exposure to the competitive SME commercial and mostly urban consumer segments suggests pricing pressure. At the same time, its uncompetitive liability side, with 60% of high cost deposit, suggests NIM has little room for expansion despite declining interest rate. Not makes things any easier is its government bond holding is almost entirely floating rate base; d.. Cost to income at over 60% is also above industry and given increasing talent constraints, its CIR may stay high for a while; e.. Valuations at 1.7x PBV, 13.5x PER. Fig 1. Valuations Disclaimer: This email may contain privileged and/or confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee. If you are not the addressee, or the person responsible for delivering it to the addressee, you may not use, copy or deliver this to anyone else. If you receive this email by mistake, please immediately notify us. Opinions contained herein may be the personal opinion of the sender and do not necessarily represent the views of the Company. If you are in any doubt as to whether the opinions are officially endorsed by the Company, please contact our Compliance Dept at (+65) 6225 1228 for clarification. ATT782396.gif Description: GIF image (on VirusWall Server )--- email-body was scanned and no virus found email-body was scanned and no virus found ATT782396.gif was scanned and no virus found -
[obrolan-bandar] Fw: TPG to invest up to US$5b in Indonesia
From: Katarina Setiawan Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 9:36 AM Subject: TPG to invest up to US$5b in Indonesia Investment: TPG to invest up to US$5b in Indonesia a.. Texas Pacific Group (TPG), a US based private equity group, stated that it is considering to acquire companies in Indonesia. b.. Its Executive Director for South East Asia said that the group is allocating US$500 million-5 billion for the above acquisitions in the next 5 years. c.. TPG is partnering with Northstar Pacific to do the acquisitions in South East Asia. d.. It has acquired Alfa Retailindo, a retail chain, from Phillip Morris at apr. US$25m. e.. The group presence in Asia started in 1994, so far it has invested US$2.4b (25 transactions in Asia Pacific), US$3.8b in Europe and US$7.2b in the US. f.. It is interested to acquire companies in the following sectors: finance, retail, air transportation, natural resources and plantation. g.. It is still very premature to speculate based on the limited information above, but likely publicly listed candidates in the above sectors include the following: Panin Bank, Matahari and London Sumatra. Katarina Setiawan Head of Research PT Kim Eng Securities Deutsche Bank Building 9th Fl. Jl. Imam Bonjol 80 Jakarta 10350 Indonesia P: +62 21 3983 1458 F: +62 21 3983 1362
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] DON'T SHORT!! .
PRICE = PERCEPTION
If you believemarket still grow up Don't short!
But if you believe... market will be down sell out.
If you are big investor it doesn't matter. but if you are small investor.. you
will buy in the high.
My GURU said NEVER SHORT THE TREND
Shorting the trend refers to sell short when a new high is reached in the stock
market, or, in an individual stock, when the trend has been definitely upward.
The investor making a large gamble that market will turn and decline.
The market and the stock might turn or not turn. The fact is stocks tend to
move as a group, and trends tend to continue.
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] SHORT!! lock your profit.
Hi.. my concern is majority of mining stocks drop in US and Europe last night lead by sink in silver, gold, nickel and other commodities. Today majority of stock exchanges sink, HK, SG, JP, KR and ID also.. On 4/27/07, Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi...hi... - Original Message From: Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, 27 April 2007 9:45:11AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] SHORT!! lock your profit. NOW.. -- http://answers.yahoo.com.sg/ *Real people. Real questions. Real answers. Share what you knowhttp://answers.yahoo.com.sg/ *.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] DON'T SHORT!! .
Again, because people are too optimistic, they leverage too high, money have been put in the market even margin facility have used to the limit. Then the condition is used by big FM put the contrarian position. On 4/27/07, Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PRICE = PERCEPTION If you believemarket still grow up Don't short! But if you believe... market will be down sell out. If you are big investor it doesn't matter. but if you are small investor.. you will buy in the high. My GURU said NEVER SHORT THE TREND Shorting the trend refers to sell short when a new high is reached in the stock market, or, in an individual stock, when the trend has been definitely upward. The investor making a large gamble that market will turn and decline. The market and the stock might turn or not turn. The fact is stocks tend to move as a group, and trends tend to continue. - Original Message From: Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, 27 April 2007 9:45:11AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] SHORT!! lock your profit. NOW.. -- http://answers.yahoo.com.sg/ *Real people. Real questions. Real answers. Share what you knowhttp://answers.yahoo.com.sg/ *.
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Kalo bingung ya pegangan, hehehe... Saya hold dua2-nya dan sama sekali tidak bingung. Apa nekad? Terserah mau keluar berita apa, kalo org mau cari brg bagus kan mesti provokasi. Ya nggak? Sriwisnu-gmail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Yang hobi ama saham INCO ANTM bingung. Rumors net profit ANTM 1T membuat ekspektasi harga harusnya naik tinggi. Berita Harga Nickle LME turun membuat ekspektasi harga harusnya ikut turun. Liat di market pagi ini turun tapi ada tarik menarik di ANTM. bingung nih mau jual atau mau tambah muatan... Sore hari ada trader gila lagi gak yach ?... - Original Message - From: Bettina Tan To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Berita nikel ini, apa pengaruhanya ya? SELL INCO ANTM? On 4/27/07, Dodi Aulia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sekedar tambahan berita dari bloomberg Nickel Falls on Speculation Steelmakers May Cut Use; Tin Drops By Brett Foley and Chanyaporn Chanjaroen April 26 (Bloomberg) -- Nickel extended a decline for a third consecutive day in London on speculation that stainless- steel makers, the biggest consumers of the metal, will cut use. Tin and copper also dropped. Posco, the world's fourth-largest steelmaker, will increase output of a nickel-free stainless-steel product fivefold by next year after nickel rose to a record, the South Korean company said yesterday. Nickel consumers are using stockpiles, said Michael Widmer, head of metals research at Calyon, one of 11 companies trading on the London Metal Exchange's floor. ``It's the demand side that is taking prices lower,'' Widmer said in a telephone interview in London. Nickel for delivery in three months on the LME dropped $750, or 1.6 percent, to $46,550 a metric ton as of 1:40 p.m. local time. The contract traded at $50,200 a ton April 24, the highest ever. The metal has gained 40 percent this year as demand from China, the world's largest user, expanded. Prices are ``excessive'' and may lead to a decline, Eramet SA, operator of the world's largest ferronickel plant, said yesterday. Stainless-steel production growth will slow to 1.6 percent this year, triggering a decline in nickel prices, steel industry consulting company MEPS (International) Ltd. said April 2. Outokumpu Oyj said April 24 it will cut its stainless-steel output by about 10 percent in the second quarter because customers are using inventories instead of placing orders. Inventories of nickel monitored by the LME gained 4.3 percent to 5,052 tons, taking the increase for this week to 25 percent. Stockpiles are still ``low,'' Widmer said. Peru Strike Tin fell for a third consecutive day on speculation that Indonesia, the world's second-largest producer of the metal, will export more metal. The Southeast Asian nation's government awarded five more tin-export licenses, bringing to 10 the number of companies that can ship the metal overseas. The metal dropped $190 to $13,310 a ton on the LME. Copper declined $100, or 1.3 percent, to $7,760 a ton, after earlier rising as much as 1.1 percent to $7,948 a ton. The price will be supported by falling stockpiles and a labor dispute in Peru, Alex Heath, head of the base-metals trading team at RBC Capital Markets in London, said by telephone. Inventories monitored by the LME fell for an eighth consecutive day to their lowest since Dec. 7. Workers from Southern Copper Corp.'s Ilo smelter said they will strike over wages as soon as April 28. The Phoenix-based company is the world's fifth-largest copper producer. At least 48 Peruvian labor unions said they will join a national mining strike on April 30, Jesus del Castillo, a spokesman for the Lima-based Mining Federation, said April 20. The group represents about 28,000 mine was unchanged at $2,822 a ton, lead fell $10 to $1,970, and zinc dropped $35 to $3,720. To contact the reporters on this story: Brett Foley in London at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Chanyaporn Chanjaroen in London at [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 4/27/07, Wiro Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear rekans, Berita ttg nikel ini, apa pengaruhanya ya terhadap ANTM dan INCO untuk short, med dan long term? Posco introduces nickel-free stainless steel Posco, the world's fourth-largest steel maker, will raise output of a nickel-free stainless steel fivefold next year as the price of nickel has hit a record. Posco plans to sell 10,000 tonnes a month of the steel, which it introduced this month, from 2,000 this year, the Pohang-based firm said yesterday. The steel, which uses chromium instead of nickel, is the equivalent of US$2,470 a tonne, half the price of so-called 300-series cold-rolled coil steel. Posco has raised stainless steel prices four times this year because of the cost of nickel. While Posco's product is not the first of its kind and may be similar to products
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: SHORT!! lock your profit.
menang taruhan kalau margin call, mr lee? benar khan
it's time to SHORT .. SHORT..
NEVER BUY ...
On 4/27/07, bangsur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
om Lee..
kesempatan ngumpulin barang ya om, obral discount ya om..
mana senin om mau menang taruhan lagi 100M hi...hi...
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Hi...hi...
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Berita nikel ini, apa pengaruhanya ya? -- Bingung
Setuju, Pak! Pasti bingung bagi para trader. Tapi kalo bagi investor pasti akan lebih percaya prospek ANTM yang bagus. Bukan hanya dalam jangka pendek, tapi juga jangka menengah dan panjang. Buat investor, mereka akan keep the stock as long as they can. Sriwisnu-gmail wrote: Yang hobi ama saham INCO ANTM bingung. Rumors net profit ANTM 1T membuat ekspektasi harga harusnya naik tinggi. Berita Harga Nickle LME turun membuat ekspektasi harga harusnya ikut turun. Liat di market pagi ini turun tapi ada tarik menarik di ANTM. bingung nih mau jual atau mau tambah muatan... Sore hari ada trader gila lagi gak yach ?... - Original Message - *From:* Bettina Tan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 27, 2007 9:08 AM *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] Berita nikel ini, apa pengaruhanya ya? SELL INCO ANTM? On 4/27/07, *Dodi Aulia* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /Sekedar tambahan berita dari bloomberg/ Nickel Falls on Speculation Steelmakers May Cut Use; Tin Drops By Brett Foley and Chanyaporn Chanjaroen April 26 (Bloomberg) -- Nickel extended a decline for a third consecutive day in London on speculation that stainless- steel makers, the biggest consumers of the metal, will cut use. Tin and copper also dropped. Posco, the world's fourth-largest steelmaker, will increase output of a nickel-free stainless-steel product fivefold by next year after nickel rose to a record, the South Korean company said yesterday. Nickel consumers are using stockpiles, said Michael Widmer, head of metals research at Calyon, one of 11 companies trading on the London Metal Exchange's floor. ``It's the demand side that is taking prices lower,'' Widmer said in a telephone interview in London. Nickel for delivery in three months on the LME dropped $750, or 1.6 percent, to $46,550 a metric ton as of 1:40 p.m. local time. The contract traded at $50,200 a ton April 24, the highest ever. The metal has gained 40 percent this year as demand from China, the world's largest user, expanded. Prices are ``excessive'' and may lead to a decline, Eramet SA, operator of the world's largest ferronickel plant, said yesterday. Stainless-steel production growth will slow to 1.6 percent this year, triggering a decline in nickel prices, steel industry consulting company MEPS (International) Ltd. said April 2. Outokumpu Oyj said April 24 it will cut its stainless-steel output by about 10 percent in the second quarter because customers are using inventories instead of placing orders. Inventories of nickel monitored by the LME gained 4.3 percent to 5,052 tons, taking the increase for this week to 25 percent. Stockpiles are still ``low,'' Widmer said. Peru Strike Tin fell for a third consecutive day on speculation that Indonesia, the world's second-largest producer of the metal, will export more metal. The Southeast Asian nation's government awarded five more tin-export licenses, bringing to 10 the number of companies that can ship the metal overseas. The metal dropped $190 to $13,310 a ton on the LME. Copper declined $100, or 1.3 percent, to $7,760 a ton, after earlier rising as much as 1.1 percent to $7,948 a ton. The price will be supported by falling stockpiles and a labor dispute in Peru, Alex Heath, head of the base-metals trading team at RBC Capital Markets in London, said by telephone. Inventories monitored by the LME fell for an eighth consecutive day to their lowest since Dec. 7. Workers from Southern Copper Corp.'s Ilo smelter said they will strike over wages as soon as April 28. The Phoenix-based company is the world's fifth-largest copper producer. At least 48 Peruvian labor unions said they will join a national mining strike on April 30, Jesus del Castillo, a spokesman for the Lima-based Mining Federation, said April 20. The group represents about 28,000 mine was unchanged at $2,822 a ton, lead fell $10 to $1,970, and zinc dropped $35 to $3,720. To contact the reporters on this story: Brett Foley in London at [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Chanyaporn Chanjaroen in London at [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 4/27/07, *Wiro Hardy* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear rekans, Berita ttg nikel ini, apa pengaruhanya ya
[obrolan-bandar] Re: DON'T SHORT!! .
setuju om...HOLD kita tungguin minimal sampai stock split
kan, kemarin sdh ada yg bilang jika harga nickel di LME 3 masih
aman lah, yah klo ANTM 17000 akhir bulan april (senin bsk kan tgl 30)
yah...terlalu cepat kali klo awal MEI ok lah.
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
PRICE = PERCEPTION
If you believemarket still grow up Don't short!
But if you believe... market will be down sell out.
If you are big investor it doesn't matter. but if you are small
investor.. you will buy in the high.
My GURU said NEVER SHORT THE TREND
Shorting the trend refers to sell short when a new high is reached
in the stock market, or, in an individual stock, when the trend has
been definitely upward. The investor making a large gamble that
market will turn and decline.
The market and the stock might turn or not turn. The fact is
stocks tend to move as a group, and trends tend to continue.
- Original Message
From: Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 27 April 2007 9:45:11AM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] SHORT!! lock your profit.
NOW..
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