Re: [obrolan-bandar] DEWA mulai menggeliat ?
bandar baru kayanya masuk tuh...:)...moga2 bisa ke 700 budi_noryanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Para suhu dan senior, Hari ini DEWA mulai bergerak, apa boleh mulai dicollect ? Rgds, Budi __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Kode saham FIRST MEDIA apa ?
kalo per di bawah 10 menurut pak TBumi beli aja. tapi kalo LIPPO Group? saya sich udah berkali kali kejebak saham LIPPO :(. salam, - Original Message - From: Surata nyoman To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Kode saham FIRST MEDIA apa ? First Media dahulu Broadband Multimedia/Kabel Vision listing di BES dengan kode KBLV . Dengan mergernya BEJ-BES tahun depan maka KBLV akan diperdagangkan di BEJ . Seingat saya KBLV merupakan anak usaha MLPL dan mungkin juga LPLI secara tidak langsung. Berbicara tentang LPLI ,apakah ada yang memperhatikan kinerja keuangan LPLI kuartal 3 tahun ini sangat fantastis ?LPLI diperdagangkan di harga 500 dengan EPS sekitar Rp. 400/saham atau PER hanya 1x sehingga menjadikan LPLI salah satu saham termurah secara fundamental di BEJ? --- Rita Pardede [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jadinya yang bener yang mana? LPLI apa MLPL apa KLBV(BES) ? Urgent nih Regards Rita --- Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First Media = Kabel vision .. cuma ganti brand aja..== LPLI - Original Message - From: Pieros To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Kode saham FIRST MEDIA apa ? MLPL - Original Message - From: Rita Pardede To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 7:20 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Kode saham FIRST MEDIA apa ? Mohon infonya donk, FIRST MEDIA kalau saya liat di berita2 koq selalu memakai kode PT.First Media Tbk. Padahal saya coba cari kode sahamnya koq gak ada. Apakah itu LPLI atau MLPL ? Thanks Rita __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] DEWA mulai menggeliat ?
Para suhu dan senior, Hari ini DEWA mulai bergerak, apa boleh mulai dicollect ? Rgds, Budi
[obrolan-bandar] Kompi WIKA!
Kompi WIKA, Run.. while U can. BD is haircutting it. Peace
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Kompi WIKA!
Correction: Until 650... carry on at last minutes. BD sets 'sweeping' at 650. Peace On 11/6/07, Brahma Kumbara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kompi WIKA, Run.. while U can. BD is *haircutting* it. Peace
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Feeling aja.. tolong jangan di gebukin ...
malam ini kayaknya dow ijo, jadi mungkin skenarionya berubah menjadi G,G,G,G regards On 11/5/07, Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yang udah master gak usah baca ya... G/R,R,R,R Besok ijo, mungkin gap up.. mm kira-kira (inverted) hammer, body bisa ijo ato merah. Lusa baru three black crows Friday I'm in love Note: Ini bukan tebakan/ramalan, tapi analisa candlestick+psikologi pasar historis. Disclaimer teuteup... ;)) Seandainya benar, silahkan kirim bunga, ayam segar, atau angpaw via JAPRI.. jgn menuhin milis... Seandainya salah, saya akan tari perut diatas meja... biar pada muntah bae.. huehehehe.. Sori, entah kenapa saya error beberapa hari ini bawaannya mau ketawa melulu.. Regards, DE
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Feeling aja.. tolong jangan di gebukin ...
penjelasan please... G,G,G,G...? G/R, R, R, R ? - Original Message From: Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2007 3:23:52 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Feeling aja.. tolong jangan di gebukin ... malam ini kayaknya dow ijo, jadi mungkin skenarionya berubah menjadi G,G,G,G regards On 11/5/07, Dean Earwicker dean.earwicker@ gmail.com wrote: Yang udah master gak usah baca ya... G/,R,R,R Besok ijo, mungkin gap up.. mm kira-kira (inverted) hammer, body bisa ijo ato merah. Lusa baru three black crows Friday I'm in love Note: Ini bukan tebakan/ramalan, tapi analisa candlestick+ psikologi pasar historis. Disclaimer teuteup... ;)) Seandainya benar, silahkan kirim bunga, ayam segar, atau angpaw via JAPRI.. jgn menuhin milis... Seandainya salah, saya akan tari perut diatas meja... biar pada muntah bae.. huehehehe.. Sori, entah kenapa saya error beberapa hari ini bawaannya mau ketawa melulu.. Regards, DE __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Koneksi ke Etrading ?
021-57931168 mirna atau linda - Pesan Asli Dari: Suwita Widjaja [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Selasa, 6 November, 2007 2:23:09 Topik: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Koneksi ke Etrading ? Boleh tau no tel IPOT ? From: maryon_88 [mailto:maryon_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.id] Sent: 06 Nopember 2007 13:46 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Koneksi ke Etrading ? --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Aa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IPOTS dimana web nya ? Mau lihat2 kecanggihannya apa spt yg dikatakan pak budi - Original Message - From: sbudianaY [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 6:27 PM Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Koneksi ke Etrading ? Mbah, Benar memang putus melulu, tapi di IPOT nga putus2. Makanya Mbah ikut ke IPOT juga, kalo saya lihat sih cukup canggih, yg penting orang2nya sampe ke 2 Top Figure nya yang sudah saya ngobrol sangat welcome dan terbuka bersedia terima masukkan kalo ada yang kita rasa kurang, saya mah minggu depan mulai nyoba trading di IPOT walau sementara masih tetap ada trading juga di Etrading, tapi di account yang satunya yang jarang ada gangguan dan account yang ngaco melulu sudah saya tutup aja daripada bikin pusing melulu, kalo ga di saingin begitu si, tu Korea, makin gede aja kepalanya. Sampe sekarang udah 18.30 ga saya putus IPOT masih nyambung terus tuh. Salam Cuan selalu, SB From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of jsx_consultant Sent: 04 Oktober 2007 11:34 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Koneksi ke Etrading ? Hari ini HOTS ke Etrading punya embah putus puluhan kali, sedangkan Line internet TIDAK PUTUS !!! Tanda APAKAH ini ? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.0/1048 - Release Date: 03/10/2007 20:22 _ I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 5158 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter http://www.spamfigh ter.com/len for free now! saya jg mengalami masalah yg sama. udah 10 hari ini tidak dpt akses HOTS. saya pakai Firefox sbg default,apakah ada hubungannya? ada yang punya pengalaman yg sama?... Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di di bidang Anda! Kunjungi Yahoo! Answers saat ini juga di http://id.answers.yahoo.com/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] DEWA mulai menggeliat ?
BN, Step forward slowly and surely. Fill your basket with ammunition, so long as not too greedy. DEWA can follow its brothers: PTBA/PGAS sooner or later. R.S is effective, despite its mining resources. Do U believe that it's only contractor? Come on... please deh! DS: ssst... they prefer to be called 'DEWA Sakti' than 'your BD Baru'. Peace On 11/6/07, budi_noryanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Para suhu dan senior, Hari ini DEWA mulai bergerak, apa boleh mulai dicollect ? Rgds, Budi
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Koneksi ke Etrading ?
www.ipotindonesia.com - Pesan Asli Dari: maryon_88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Selasa, 6 November, 2007 1:46:21 Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Koneksi ke Etrading ? --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Aa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IPOTS dimana web nya ? Mau lihat2 kecanggihannya apa spt yg dikatakan pak budi - Original Message - From: sbudianaY [EMAIL PROTECTED] . To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 6:27 PM Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Koneksi ke Etrading ? Mbah, Benar memang putus melulu, tapi di IPOT nga putus2. Makanya Mbah ikut ke IPOT juga, kalo saya lihat sih cukup canggih, yg penting orang2nya sampe ke 2 Top Figure nya yang sudah saya ngobrol sangat welcome dan terbuka bersedia terima masukkan kalo ada yang kita rasa kurang, saya mah minggu depan mulai nyoba trading di IPOT walau sementara masih tetap ada trading juga di Etrading, tapi di account yang satunya yang jarang ada gangguan dan account yang ngaco melulu sudah saya tutup aja daripada bikin pusing melulu, kalo ga di saingin begitu si, tu Korea, makin gede aja kepalanya. Sampe sekarang udah 18.30 ga saya putus IPOT masih nyambung terus tuh. Salam Cuan selalu, SB From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of jsx_consultant Sent: 04 Oktober 2007 11:34 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Koneksi ke Etrading ? Hari ini HOTS ke Etrading punya embah putus puluhan kali, sedangkan Line internet TIDAK PUTUS !!! Tanda APAKAH ini ? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.0/1048 - Release Date: 03/10/2007 20:22 _ I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 5158 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter http://www.spamfigh ter.com/len for free now! saya jg mengalami masalah yg sama. udah 10 hari ini tidak dpt akses HOTS. saya pakai Firefox sbg default,apakah ada hubungannya? ada yang punya pengalaman yg sama?... Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di di bidang Anda! Kunjungi Yahoo! Answers saat ini juga di http://id.answers.yahoo.com/
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Feeling aja.. tolong jangan di gebukin ...
G = Green R = Red Tapi Pak DE startnya kapan ya? Hari ini? Idx memang G sekarang... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, bob anti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: penjelasan please... G,G,G,G...? G/R, R, R, R ? - Original Message From: Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2007 3:23:52 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Feeling aja.. tolong jangan di gebukin ... malam ini kayaknya dow ijo, jadi mungkin skenarionya berubah menjadi G,G,G,G regards On 11/5/07, Dean Earwicker dean.earwicker@ gmail.com wrote: Yang udah master gak usah baca ya... G/,R,R,R Besok ijo, mungkin gap up.. mm kira-kira (inverted) hammer, body bisa ijo ato merah. Lusa baru three black crows Friday I'm in love Note: Ini bukan tebakan/ramalan, tapi analisa candlestick+ psikologi pasar historis. Disclaimer teuteup... ;)) Seandainya benar, silahkan kirim bunga, ayam segar, atau angpaw via JAPRI.. jgn menuhin milis... Seandainya salah, saya akan tari perut diatas meja... biar pada muntah bae.. huehehehe.. Sori, entah kenapa saya error beberapa hari ini bawaannya mau ketawa melulu.. Regards, DE __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] Data Perdagangan BEJ 1998-2002
Dear Temans, Saya membutuhkan data perdagangan saham BEJ tahun 1998-2002 (tidak perlu data Metastock). Mohon info dimana saya bisa mendapatkannya. Kalau ada yang punya, terima kasih sekali kalau bersedia memberikan copynya kepada saya. Terima kasih sebelumnya. LS
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Feeling aja.. tolong jangan di gebukin ...
G=Green R=Red, kali?? bob anti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: penjelasan please... G,G,G,G...? G/R, R, R, R ? - Original Message From: Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2007 3:23:52 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Feeling aja.. tolong jangan di gebukin ... malam ini kayaknya dow ijo, jadi mungkin skenarionya berubah menjadi G,G,G,G regards On 11/5/07, Dean Earwicker dean.earwicker@ gmail.com wrote: Yang udah master gak usah baca ya... G/,R,R,R Besok ijo, mungkin gap up.. mm kira-kira (inverted) hammer, body bisa ijo ato merah. Lusa baru three black crows Friday I'm in love Note: Ini bukan tebakan/ramalan, tapi analisa candlestick+ psikologi pasar historis. Disclaimer teuteup... ;)) Seandainya benar, silahkan kirim bunga, ayam segar, atau angpaw via JAPRI.. jgn menuhin milis... Seandainya salah, saya akan tari perut diatas meja... biar pada muntah bae.. huehehehe.. Sori, entah kenapa saya error beberapa hari ini bawaannya mau ketawa melulu.. Regards, DE __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Perhatikan cara bd kabur di ENRG sekarang...
Beberapa hari ini memang di collect terus... Eh hari ini sudah dikerjain. Dasar Bakal (BD lokal) kalau ada FEELING langsung KERJA Ketik REG spasi ENRG kirim ke 2000 bila Tuhan meridhoi anda akan KAYA Pesen dari sang Sopir Anggap saja guyonan di antara kami, boleh dicuekin
[obrolan-bandar] info para kontraktor?
salam, ada yang punya info mengenai para kontraktor? TRUB,ADHI,TOTL, kok pada terjun semua ya? bagaimana teknikal fundamentalnya? apa ada yg bisa kasih TP?... thq
[obrolan-bandar] BRPT: Laba anjlok tp saham naik :-)
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BI Rate ?
Sptnya dampaknya pos (+) ke market - USD/IDR menjadi menguat2 Happy chuan, Aria Rapat Dewan Gubernur (RDG) Bank Indonesia hari ini memutuskan mempertahankan tingkat suku bunga acuan (BI Rate) di posisi 8,25 persen. Kebijakan mempertahankan suku bunga ini sudah mempertimbangkan kondisi pasar saat ini, baik itu data inflasi bulan Oktober 2007 yang mencapai 0,79 persen dan target inflasi tahun ini serta meningkatnya harga minyak dan gas di pasar internasional. Demikian diungkapkan Direktur Direktorat Riset Ekonomi dan Kebijakan Moneter, I Made Sukada, di Gedung BI, Jakarta, Selasa (06/11). _ From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vic Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 12:39 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BI Rate ? gw rasa sih gak berubah (survei reuter). --- In obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, bernanke20551 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yang punya info tentang BI Rate tolong informasi nya ? thx
[obrolan-bandar] FED mungkin rate cut yang ke 3 ditahun ini ?
Dear Mbah Tetua OB, Ada spekulasi, Kalo FED mau motong rate cut yang ke3 kalinya, kalo kejadian bakal ijo2 lagi index n Indonesia kebanjiran dana terus ? SALAM hangat.Thanks NB : Hari ini cukup puas tapi ati-ati ah hari Kamis ini . Dollar Falls to Record as Bank Losses May Prompt Fed Rate Cut By Kosuke Goto and Stanley White Nov. 6 (Bloomberg) -- The dollar fell to a record low against the euro on speculation finance industry losses will prompt the U.S. Federal Reserve to cut interest rates for a third time this year. The currency declined versus all 16 of the most-actively traded currencies except the yen as Fed Governor Randall Kroszner said conditions for subprime-mortgage borrowers may get worse. It dropped the most against the currency of New Zealand, where the benchmark rate is 3.75 percentage points higher than in the U.S. ``The rolling credit crisis and lack of confidence in the U.S. financial sector is heightening fears for the broader U.S. economy,'' said Greg Gibbs, a currency strategist in Sydney at ABN Amro Holding NV, the biggest Dutch bank. ``The broader outlook for the dollar still looks very challenged.''
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Feeling aja.. tolong jangan di gebukin ...
Wew Kayaknya hitungan gue bakal salah nih... Eropa ijo soalnya.. DJ Fut + (maap) Regards, DE On Nov 6, 2007 3:41 PM, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G = Green R = Red Tapi Pak DE startnya kapan ya? Hari ini? Idx memang G sekarang... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, bob anti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: penjelasan please... G,G,G,G...? G/R, R, R, R ? - Original Message From: Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2007 3:23:52 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Feeling aja.. tolong jangan di gebukin ... malam ini kayaknya dow ijo, jadi mungkin skenarionya berubah menjadi G,G,G,G regards On 11/5/07, Dean Earwicker dean.earwicker@ gmail.com wrote: Yang udah master gak usah baca ya... G/,R,R,R Besok ijo, mungkin gap up.. mm kira-kira (inverted) hammer, body bisa ijo ato merah. Lusa baru three black crows Friday I'm in love Note: Ini bukan tebakan/ramalan, tapi analisa candlestick+ psikologi pasar historis. Disclaimer teuteup... ;)) Seandainya benar, silahkan kirim bunga, ayam segar, atau angpaw via JAPRI.. jgn menuhin milis... Seandainya salah, saya akan tari perut diatas meja... biar pada muntah bae.. huehehehe.. Sori, entah kenapa saya error beberapa hari ini bawaannya mau ketawa melulu.. Regards, DE __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] NAEK NAEK ke G*N*NG 3000 -- TINGGI TINGGI SEKALI .. TOLEH KIRI TOLEH KANAN KULIHAT ... CUANNNZZ
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Kapan salam-salaman lagi? (Tins vs Antm)
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Joe Grunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dulu kejadian salaman (istilah pak Oen) antara duo metal ini sudah beberapa kali terjadi. Yang pertama, tins berlari lebih dahulu. Lalu tak lama Antm akan mengejar, kemudialn salaman lalu melewatinya. Mau tanya Pak Oentoeng, ada lagi gak cerita salaman seperti kemarin? Buat saya cerita salam2an antara ANTM sama TINS kayaknya sdh jadi masa lalu kita yg indah. Bagaimanapun kayak ANTM (sama BUMI) keliatan seperti cewek gembrot karena kebanykan penumpang. Coba bandingkan dengan TINS (ama PTBA), saham mahal semakin LINCAH dan GESIT. Karena byk trader yg ketakutan bermain di sana. Jadi sulit bersalaman kalau masih beda TYPE... Tapi ke depan saya niat mau bikin balapan lagi, cuman belon milih kendaraannya aja. Untuk saat ini menyamakan PERSEPSI antar para sopir cukup sulit. Banyak yg pengen maen terus selama minyak belon menyentuh level 100, sebagiannya lagi ada juga yg moderat nunggu perkembangan. Nggak tahu sampai kapan? Yang ngajak langsung ke 3000 sama kembali ke 2400 sama2 kuat euiy... Ntar deh kalau sudah nemu kata SEPAKAT di antara kami, saya akan ngajak cuan berjamaah LAGI. Rgrds
[obrolan-bandar] Stocks look to rebound (cnn)
Stocks look to rebound After concern about credit crunch, investors appear positive going into Tuesday's session. November 6 2007: 3:46 AM EST NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Investors appeared ready Tuesday to put the recent Citigroup-inspired wave of credit worries behind them, at least temporarily, as stocks were poised to open higher. At 3:35 a.m. ET, Nasdaq and SP futures were higher. U.S. light crude futures were up $1.12 to $95.10 a barrel in overnight NYMEX trading. Among stocks in the news early Tuesday: Sun Microsystems (Charts, Fortune 500), Mesa Air Group (Charts), SLM Corp. (Charts, Fortune 500) and Sony (Charts). Stocks ended lower Monday, unable to overcome declines caused by concern over Citigroup (Charts, Fortune 500)'s announcement that it may take an additional $11 billion in writedowns because of subprime mortgage exposure.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Stocks look to rebound (cnn)
Iya pak, emang future naik Cuma ati2 pada hari Kamis atawa Jumat ini untuk IHSG, aku ada rasa Feeling tak enak. SAFE TRADING aja ah...ngeri kesedot. Thanks berat neh... aku hari ini cukup puas Rabu mudah2-an asyik juga. Portofolio : konsentrasi di sektor tambang, kebun bank, Infrastruktur dikit aja Gimana pendapatnya pak ? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stocks look to rebound After concern about credit crunch, investors appear positive going into Tuesday's session. November 6 2007: 3:46 AM EST NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Investors appeared ready Tuesday to put the recent Citigroup-inspired wave of credit worries behind them, at least temporarily, as stocks were poised to open higher. At 3:35 a.m. ET, Nasdaq and SP futures were higher. U.S. light crude futures were up $1.12 to $95.10 a barrel in overnight NYMEX trading. Among stocks in the news early Tuesday: Sun Microsystems (Charts, Fortune 500), Mesa Air Group (Charts), SLM Corp. (Charts, Fortune 500) and Sony (Charts). Stocks ended lower Monday, unable to overcome declines caused by concern over Citigroup (Charts, Fortune 500)'s announcement that it may take an additional $11 billion in writedowns because of subprime mortgage exposure.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Feeling aja.. tolong jangan di gebukin ...
Good evening REI, How about 11.000 or extremely 12.000 (PER PBV: your homework) Hmmm. Peace On 11/6/07, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kalo salahnya dari R ke G, nggak apa deh Pak DE... Asal jangan dari G ke R, hehehe... ngomong2 ptba dahysat sekali hari ini. Mau dibawa ke berapa sih? Ada yg tahu? Trims! *Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: Wew Kayaknya hitungan gue bakal salah nih... Eropa ijo soalnya.. DJ Fut + (maap) Regards, DE On Nov 6, 2007 3:41 PM, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G = Green R = Red Tapi Pak DE startnya kapan ya? Hari ini? Idx memang G sekarang... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, bob anti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: penjelasan please... G,G,G,G...? G/R, R, R, R ? - Original Message From: Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2007 3:23:52 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Feeling aja.. tolong jangan di gebukin ... malam ini kayaknya dow ijo, jadi mungkin skenarionya berubah menjadi G,G,G,G regards On 11/5/07, Dean Earwicker dean.earwicker@ gmail.com wrote: Yang udah master gak usah baca ya... G/,R,R,R Besok ijo, mungkin gap up.. mm kira-kira (inverted) hammer, body bisa ijo ato merah. Lusa baru three black crows Friday I'm in love Note: Ini bukan tebakan/ramalan, tapi analisa candlestick+ psikologi pasar historis. Disclaimer teuteup... ;)) Seandainya benar, silahkan kirim bunga, ayam segar, atau angpaw via JAPRI.. jgn menuhin milis... Seandainya salah, saya akan tari perut diatas meja... biar pada muntah bae.. huehehehe.. Sori, entah kenapa saya error beberapa hari ini bawaannya mau ketawa melulu.. Regards, DE __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] info para kontraktor?
JJ, Forget TA + FA ADHI today, Today KZ simply splashed it down! But later, as proverb goes: ADHI, ayo maen bola lagi!... to 1800 field. Peace On 11/6/07, jeremia.jefferson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: salam, ada yang punya info mengenai para kontraktor? TRUB,ADHI,TOTL, kok pada terjun semua ya? bagaimana teknikal fundamentalnya? apa ada yg bisa kasih TP?... thq
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Feeling aja.. tolong jangan di gebukin ...
Kalo salahnya dari R ke G, nggak apa deh Pak DE... Asal jangan dari G ke R, hehehe... ngomong2 ptba dahysat sekali hari ini. Mau dibawa ke berapa sih? Ada yg tahu? Trims! Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wew Kayaknya hitungan gue bakal salah nih... Eropa ijo soalnya.. DJ Fut + (maap) Regards, DE On Nov 6, 2007 3:41 PM, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G = Green R = Red Tapi Pak DE startnya kapan ya? Hari ini? Idx memang G sekarang... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, bob anti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: penjelasan please... G,G,G,G...? G/R, R, R, R ? - Original Message From: Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2007 3:23:52 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Feeling aja.. tolong jangan di gebukin ... malam ini kayaknya dow ijo, jadi mungkin skenarionya berubah menjadi G,G,G,G regards On 11/5/07, Dean Earwicker dean.earwicker@ gmail.com wrote: Yang udah master gak usah baca ya... G/,R,R,R Besok ijo, mungkin gap up.. mm kira-kira (inverted) hammer, body bisa ijo ato merah. Lusa baru three black crows Friday I'm in love Note: Ini bukan tebakan/ramalan, tapi analisa candlestick+ psikologi pasar historis. Disclaimer teuteup... ;)) Seandainya benar, silahkan kirim bunga, ayam segar, atau angpaw via JAPRI.. jgn menuhin milis... Seandainya salah, saya akan tari perut diatas meja... biar pada muntah bae.. huehehehe.. Sori, entah kenapa saya error beberapa hari ini bawaannya mau ketawa melulu.. Regards, DE __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Jasa Marga IPO
kaya nya sih bagus untuk mid term, long term TP nya kaya nyabelum ada yang bikin riset nya sebenarnya ini salah satu favorit saya, cuma ada berepa hal yang agak menganjal waktu IPO kemarin beberpa Institusi besar agak ogah2an dengan harga 1700, karena mereka estimasi nya 1100-1500, harga 1700 equal dengan PER 29, kalau di kompare dengan perusahaan sejenis di Malaysia , PER nya hanya 14 tapi saya yakin,pemerintah sudah belajar fari kegagalan BBNI dan PGAS, sampai harus mengundur schedule IPO nya cukup lama dan menaikkan dulu tarif tool, untuk mempercantik lap keuangan nya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mbah, mohon izin utk membahas topik ini bila berkenan. In case ada member OB yang punya info prospek IPO Jasa Marga, mohon di share dong: - Kebetulan ada dpt alokasi sekian lot, apakah ini saham worth di keep ? TP utk short, medium and long term brp harganya? Thanks DW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Feeling aja.. tolong jangan di gebukin ...
It's ok. After all, you are only a simple human being. Just like the others Paling disuruh nari perut sama anak-anak ... wakakaka ANTM aja lebih +125 nih. Wah pak Tbumi bener nih. kikiki On 11/6/07, Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wew Kayaknya hitungan gue bakal salah nih... Eropa ijo soalnya.. DJ Fut + (maap) Regards, DE On Nov 6, 2007 3:41 PM, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G = Green R = Red Tapi Pak DE startnya kapan ya? Hari ini? Idx memang G sekarang... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, bob anti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: penjelasan please... G,G,G,G...? G/R, R, R, R ? - Original Message From: Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2007 3:23:52 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Feeling aja.. tolong jangan di gebukin ... malam ini kayaknya dow ijo, jadi mungkin skenarionya berubah menjadi G,G,G,G regards On 11/5/07, Dean Earwicker dean.earwicker@ gmail.com wrote: Yang udah master gak usah baca ya... G/,R,R,R Besok ijo, mungkin gap up.. mm kira-kira (inverted) hammer, body bisa ijo ato merah. Lusa baru three black crows Friday I'm in love Note: Ini bukan tebakan/ramalan, tapi analisa candlestick+ psikologi pasar historis. Disclaimer teuteup... ;)) Seandainya benar, silahkan kirim bunga, ayam segar, atau angpaw via JAPRI.. jgn menuhin milis... Seandainya salah, saya akan tari perut diatas meja... biar pada muntah bae.. huehehehe.. Sori, entah kenapa saya error beberapa hari ini bawaannya mau ketawa melulu.. Regards, DE
Re: [obrolan-bandar] NAEK NAEK ke G*N*NG 3000 -- TINGGI TINGGI SEKALI .. TOLEH KIRI TOLEH KANAN KULIHAT ... CUANNNZZ
Buset deh. pak Boen ini pasti kolek pas rendah banget kayaknya deh. ya Pak? Portofolionya udah untung berapa % pak? On 11/6/07, Mr. Boen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Feeling aja.. tolong jangan di gebukin ...
ENRG lebih hebat hari ini.. BTW, PER dan PBV apa sih? :D On 11/6/07, Ksatria Madangkara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good evening REI, How about 11.000 or extremely 12.000 (PER PBV: your homework) Hmmm. Peace On 11/6/07, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kalo salahnya dari R ke G, nggak apa deh Pak DE... Asal jangan dari G ke R, hehehe... ngomong2 ptba dahysat sekali hari ini. Mau dibawa ke berapa sih? Ada yg tahu? Trims! Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wew Kayaknya hitungan gue bakal salah nih... Eropa ijo soalnya.. DJ Fut + (maap) Regards, DE On Nov 6, 2007 3:41 PM, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G = Green R = Red Tapi Pak DE startnya kapan ya? Hari ini? Idx memang G sekarang... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, bob anti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: penjelasan please... G,G,G,G...? G/R, R, R, R ? - Original Message From: Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2007 3:23:52 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Feeling aja.. tolong jangan di gebukin ... malam ini kayaknya dow ijo, jadi mungkin skenarionya berubah menjadi G,G,G,G regards On 11/5/07, Dean Earwicker dean.earwicker@ gmail.com wrote: Yang udah master gak usah baca ya... G/,R,R,R Besok ijo, mungkin gap up.. mm kira-kira (inverted) hammer, body bisa ijo ato merah. Lusa baru three black crows Friday I'm in love Note: Ini bukan tebakan/ramalan, tapi analisa candlestick+ psikologi pasar historis. Disclaimer teuteup... ;)) Seandainya benar, silahkan kirim bunga, ayam segar, atau angpaw via JAPRI.. jgn menuhin milis... Seandainya salah, saya akan tari perut diatas meja... biar pada muntah bae.. huehehehe.. Sori, entah kenapa saya error beberapa hari ini bawaannya mau ketawa melulu.. Regards, DE
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Feeling aja.. tolong jangan di gebukin ...
REI, to the point: 20.000 by 2008. The choice is yours. Watch your back and keep your nose clean, body. Peace
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Feeling aja.. tolong jangan di gebukin ...
Capo AA, What do U think U're doing? Fighting without proper gun? Go soon to the nearest school and learn. Or U can 'get bang down' by someone soon. Click 'display image below'. On 11/6/07, abdulrahim abdulrahim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ENRG lebih hebat hari ini.. BTW, PER dan PBV apa sih? :D On 11/6/07, Ksatria Madangkara [EMAIL PROTECTED]brahmakumbara007%40gmail.com wrote: Good evening REI, How about 11.000 or extremely 12.000 (PER PBV: your homework) Hmmm. Peace On 11/6/07, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] highwaystar91%40yahoo.com wrote: Kalo salahnya dari R ke G, nggak apa deh Pak DE... Asal jangan dari G ke R, hehehe... ngomong2 ptba dahysat sekali hari ini. Mau dibawa ke berapa sih? Ada yg tahu? Trims! Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] dean.earwicker%40gmail.com wrote: Wew Kayaknya hitungan gue bakal salah nih... Eropa ijo soalnya.. DJ Fut + (maap) Regards, DE On Nov 6, 2007 3:41 PM, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED]highwaystar91%40yahoo.com wrote: G = Green R = Red Tapi Pak DE startnya kapan ya? Hari ini? Idx memang G sekarang... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, bob anti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: penjelasan please... G,G,G,G...? G/R, R, R, R ? - Original Message From: Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2007 3:23:52 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Feeling aja.. tolong jangan di gebukin ... malam ini kayaknya dow ijo, jadi mungkin skenarionya berubah menjadi G,G,G,G regards On 11/5/07, Dean Earwicker dean.earwicker@ gmail.com wrote: Yang udah master gak usah baca ya... G/,R,R,R Besok ijo, mungkin gap up.. mm kira-kira (inverted) hammer, body bisa ijo ato merah. Lusa baru three black crows Friday I'm in love Note: Ini bukan tebakan/ramalan, tapi analisa candlestick+ psikologi pasar historis. Disclaimer teuteup... ;)) Seandainya benar, silahkan kirim bunga, ayam segar, atau angpaw via JAPRI.. jgn menuhin milis... Seandainya salah, saya akan tari perut diatas meja... biar pada muntah bae.. huehehehe.. Sori, entah kenapa saya error beberapa hari ini bawaannya mau ketawa melulu.. Regards, DE
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Feeling aja.. tolong jangan di gebukin ...
I am asking the meaning of PER and PBV I think What do you think am I doing then? :-? What is Capo? On 11/6/07, Ksatria Madangkara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Capo AA, What do U think U're doing? Fighting without proper gun? Go soon to the nearest school and learn. Or U can 'get bang down' by someone soon. Click 'display image below'. On 11/6/07, abdulrahim abdulrahim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ENRG lebih hebat hari ini.. BTW, PER dan PBV apa sih? :D On 11/6/07, Ksatria Madangkara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good evening REI, How about 11.000 or extremely 12.000 (PER PBV: your homework) Hmmm. Peace On 11/6/07, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kalo salahnya dari R ke G, nggak apa deh Pak DE... Asal jangan dari G ke R, hehehe... ngomong2 ptba dahysat sekali hari ini. Mau dibawa ke berapa sih? Ada yg tahu? Trims! Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wew Kayaknya hitungan gue bakal salah nih... Eropa ijo soalnya.. DJ Fut + (maap) Regards, DE On Nov 6, 2007 3:41 PM, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G = Green R = Red Tapi Pak DE startnya kapan ya? Hari ini? Idx memang G sekarang... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, bob anti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: penjelasan please... G,G,G,G...? G/R, R, R, R ? - Original Message From: Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2007 3:23:52 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Feeling aja.. tolong jangan di gebukin ... malam ini kayaknya dow ijo, jadi mungkin skenarionya berubah menjadi G,G,G,G regards On 11/5/07, Dean Earwicker dean.earwicker@ gmail.com wrote: Yang udah master gak usah baca ya... G/,R,R,R Besok ijo, mungkin gap up.. mm kira-kira (inverted) hammer, body bisa ijo ato merah. Lusa baru three black crows Friday I'm in love Note: Ini bukan tebakan/ramalan, tapi analisa candlestick+ psikologi pasar historis. Disclaimer teuteup... ;)) Seandainya benar, silahkan kirim bunga, ayam segar, atau angpaw via JAPRI.. jgn menuhin milis... Seandainya salah, saya akan tari perut diatas meja... biar pada muntah bae.. huehehehe.. Sori, entah kenapa saya error beberapa hari ini bawaannya mau ketawa melulu.. Regards, DE
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Feeling aja.. tolong jangan di gebukin ...
Hi bro...that's not as extreme as what I heard, hehehe... It might come true. I better not say it publicly here otherwise it may not come true...but 12000 is extreme enough. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Ksatria Madangkara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good evening REI, How about 11.000 or extremely 12.000 (PER PBV: your homework) Hmmm. Peace On 11/6/07, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kalo salahnya dari R ke G, nggak apa deh Pak DE... Asal jangan dari G ke R, hehehe... ngomong2 ptba dahysat sekali hari ini. Mau dibawa ke berapa sih? Ada yg tahu? Trims! *Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: Wew Kayaknya hitungan gue bakal salah nih... Eropa ijo soalnya.. DJ Fut + (maap) Regards, DE On Nov 6, 2007 3:41 PM, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G = Green R = Red Tapi Pak DE startnya kapan ya? Hari ini? Idx memang G sekarang... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com, bob anti ant_bob77@ wrote: penjelasan please... G,G,G,G...? G/R, R, R, R ? - Original Message From: Andri Wijaya andri.wijaya@ To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2007 3:23:52 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Feeling aja.. tolong jangan di gebukin ... malam ini kayaknya dow ijo, jadi mungkin skenarionya berubah menjadi G,G,G,G regards On 11/5/07, Dean Earwicker dean.earwicker@ gmail.com wrote: Yang udah master gak usah baca ya... G/,R,R,R Besok ijo, mungkin gap up.. mm kira-kira (inverted) hammer, body bisa ijo ato merah. Lusa baru three black crows Friday I'm in love Note: Ini bukan tebakan/ramalan, tapi analisa candlestick+ psikologi pasar historis. Disclaimer teuteup... ;)) Seandainya benar, silahkan kirim bunga, ayam segar, atau angpaw via JAPRI.. jgn menuhin milis... Seandainya salah, saya akan tari perut diatas meja... biar pada muntah bae.. huehehehe.. Sori, entah kenapa saya error beberapa hari ini bawaannya mau ketawa melulu.. Regards, DE __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] Re: info para kontraktor?
secara bisnis, lebih nguntungin jadi kontraktor apa operator pak ..? jasa marga hanya operator kan ? salam --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Ksatria Madangkara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JJ, Forget TA + FA ADHI today, Today KZ simply splashed it down! But later, as proverb goes: ADHI, ayo maen bola lagi!... to 1800 field. Peace On 11/6/07, jeremia.jefferson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: salam, ada yang punya info mengenai para kontraktor? TRUB,ADHI,TOTL, kok pada terjun semua ya? bagaimana teknikal fundamentalnya? apa ada yg bisa kasih TP?... thq
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Feeling aja.. tolong jangan di gebukin ...
kalau tanya om google atau paman wiki pasti dijawab deh pak.. suhu2 di sini mainannya ngasah golok, pedang, samurai.. siap buat sabet-sabetan esok hari ... hehe good luck arnold --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, abdulrahim abdulrahim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am asking the meaning of PER and PBV I think What do you think am I doing then? :-? What is Capo? On 11/6/07, Ksatria Madangkara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Capo AA, What do U think U're doing? Fighting without proper gun? Go soon to the nearest school and learn. Or U can 'get bang down' by someone soon. Click 'display image below'. On 11/6/07, abdulrahim abdulrahim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ENRG lebih hebat hari ini.. BTW, PER dan PBV apa sih? :D On 11/6/07, Ksatria Madangkara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good evening REI, How about 11.000 or extremely 12.000 (PER PBV: your homework) Hmmm. Peace
[obrolan-bandar] ANTM Sell by LG
Quote from Klubsaham.com Aneka Tambang, Riding On Metal Prices (ANTM.JK/ANTM IJ - Rp3,550) - SELL (under review) Result ANTM posted 9M07 revenues of Rp8.3tr or up by 143.1% YoY buoyed by strong metal prices and higher sales volume of high-grade nickel ores. Higher prices guarded costs that have been hiking throughout the year. [size=18][b] DISINI SI ANALIS TIDAK LIHAT REPORT PENGELUARAN BULANAN ANTM, DIA HANYA MENGUTARAKAN PENDAPAT PRIBADI.[/b][/size] As a result, ANTM registered robust gross profit and operating profit growth by 262.0% and 289.7%, respectively. Joint with higher dividend income, net interest income as well as a one-off item amounted Rp86bn, the company's strong operation performance lifted net profit by 373.7% YoY to Rp3.8tr. Sales volume of high-grade nickel ores, gold, and silver advanced by 126%, 83%, and 18% YoY to 5.0m wet metric ton (wmt), 3.7ton, and 18.9ton, respectively, compensating lower sales volume of low-grade nickel ores, bauxite, and ferronickel that dropped 62%, 23%, and 4% to 0.2mn wmt, 0.8mn wmt, and 9,279 ton. QoQ basis, ANTM booked 3Q07 revenues, gross profit, operating profit, and net profit of Rp2.3tr (-37.8% QoQ), Rp1.4tr (-48.1% QoQ), Rp1.2tr (-51.5% QoQ), and [b]Rp958.1bn [/b](-46.8% QoQ). Stock Data PERHATIKAN ANGKA-ANGKA AJAIB BERIKUT INI, ANGKA-ANGKA INI KELUAR TANPA ADA HUBUNGANNYA DENGAN ANGKA-ANGKA YANG DISAMPAIKAN DIATAS! Target Price: Rp2,720 angka ajaib !!! P/E (x): 7.8 angka lebih ajaib !!! KENAPA CUMAN 7.8? APA NGAK TERLALU BESAR? KENAPA TIDAK 6.18? ATAU 5.5? ATAU 4.3? ATAU.1 (satu) ? P/BV (x): 3.8 Div. Yield (%): 7.0 Comment High metal prices has been the driving factor for stellar 9M07 performance, bringing ANTM sets of record performances from top line (exceeding US$900m) to bottom line (exceeding US$400m). However, cost concerns will be the next crucial theme going into 4Q07 and onwards as oil price continues to strengthen while base metal prices has started to decline. With the absence of huge capital-intensive projects, strong metal prices generated generous free cash flows that helped ANTM solidify its balance sheet, raising cash by more than 4.0x to Rp4.4tr and trimmed debt by 38% YoY to Rp1.0tr. As a result, ANTM's balance sheet reported a turnaround from reporting a net debt of Rp770bn a year earlier to a net cash of Rp3.4tr or net cash per share of Rp355. A strong balance sheet should provide a leeway for ANTM to materialize their acquisition plans. An accidental stoppage of the newly built FeNi-3 unit in mid-2Q07 resulted in a 20% QoQ decline in ferronickel production. Luckily, ANTM was able to offset the lower contribution from ferronickel by boosting the sales of high-grade nickel ores to China. Going forward, ANTM toned down its ferronickel production target in 2008 to 17,000 ton from high 20,000 ton. Gold production from Pongkor has been slow to pick up with growth of only 1.0% YoY, while reporting a 3.0% QoQ production decline in 9M07. AIYA ! TERNYATA ANGKA Rp2,720 DENGAN PE 7.8an DIDASARKAN NETT CASH HINGGA BULAN SEP 07. YAITU SEBESAR RP 355 x7.8 (7.8 sendiri entah angka keramat dari mana?) BARU 1 KALI INI AKU LIHAT SEORANG ANALIS MEMPERKIRAKAN Price Earning Ratio TERHADAP NETT CASH, BUKAN NETT PROFIT KUARTALAN/TAHUNAN! WOW, MUNGKIN INI CARA ANALISA YANG BARU ! ANTM performance in 3Q07 was weak due to: 1) declining prices of all metals produced by the company, except gold; 2) lower sales volume of ferronickel and high-grade ores amid higher sales of gold and silver; and 3) continued cost escalation. Consequently, we are not surprised to by the set of weak quarterly result. We are revising our projections, hence our recommendation and target price. Base metal prices have started to rebound albeit at a slow pace, while gold price is on the up trend. Any gold mine acquisition, could be a potential surprise; yet, it hinges on the quality of the mine. Financial Summary Y-o-Y and Q-o-Q Profitability Performance (Rpbn) 9M06 9M07 Chg (%) 2Q07 3Q07 Chg (%) Revenue 3,401 8,270 143.1 3,628 2,256 (37.8) Gross profit 1,506 5,452 262.0 2,601 1,350 (48.1) Operating profit 1,317 5,132 289.7 2,496 1,211 (51.5) Net profit 809 3,831 373.7 1,800 958 (46.8) Gross margin (%) 44.3 65.9 71.7 59.8 Operating margin (%) 38.7 62.1 68.8 53.7 Net margin (%) 23.8 46.3 49.6 42.5 Adi Hartadi Tel: (6221) 515 2727 [EMAIL PROTECTED] DISCLAIMER MAKELAR BILANG BAHWA RESEARCH DARI SI ADI HARTADI BULL SHIT! Tapi sejujurnya Makelar sih senang kalau ANTM turun lagi karena sejujurnya ANTM overweight ama penumpang retail, sebaiknya para retail kecil seperti makelar dan teman-teman pada lepasin barang-barangnya agar ngereknya ngak susah. hihihi... Disclaimer on. Daisy You've got friend now!
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Feeling aja.. tolong jangan di gebukin ...
AA AR, Go home, have dinner, and watch 'sinetron cahaya' while thinking this: 1. PER = Price to Earning Ratio, PBV = Price to Book Value. (the rest: find yourself) 2. If U can kill 2 birds with 1 stone, why not 'MR. CONTRACTOR OPERATOR'/2 in 1, and not separately. See behind the scenes.* * *Welcome to Indo!* Now, go home... bodies. I'll smoke and see the moon. Peace Watch your back and keep your nose clean.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Analisa DE: Cuma mining yang angkat IHSG (wajarkah?)
BAD. One of clues in bear market. See EXXON in 1970. DJIA, Fut + now = bulls spreading... but let's not get fooled. *SO...* Peace
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Perhatikan cara bd kabur di ENRG sekarang...
Namanya juga ENRG-EN sekuat.macan..wauuummmminyak semakin langka demikian macannya juga makin langka makin mahall.wuauuu... oentoeng_qq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Beberapa hari ini memang di collect terus... Eh hari ini sudah dikerjain. Dasar Bakal (BD lokal) kalau ada FEELING langsung KERJA Ketik REG spasi ENRG kirim ke 2000 bila Tuhan meridhoi anda akan KAYA Pesen dari sang Sopir Anggap saja guyonan di antara kami, boleh dicuekin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] Re: info para kontraktor?
mr.ksatria thq for the info. bersihin lapangan dulu baru main lagi deh.he3x. salam
Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM Sell by LG
waduh.. koq jadi nyerang pribadi sih apalagi yg nyerang gak pernah keluarin riset dan rekomendasi sama sekali.. hehee kl semua analis serempak teriak beli, trus sapa yg supply barang di pasar supaya bisa dibeli? On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:33:05 +0700, gmail-doekoen.jamoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quote from Klubsaham.com Aneka Tambang, Riding On Metal Prices (ANTM.JK/ANTM IJ - Rp3,550) - SELL (under review) Result + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali memang diperlukan. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Analisa DE: Cuma mining yang angkat IHSG (wajarkah?)
Embah mencoba menangkap tulisan pak DE dan pak Madangkara: - Pak DE meragukan keadaan BULL saat ini karena tidak semua sector naik. - BULL menurut Mr Dow, menyaratkan index semua menguat pada arah yg sama. Jadi trader yg pegang saham apa saja akan untung karena semua cenderung naik. - Pak Madangkara 'menyiratkan' BULL akan menyebar kesektor yg lain (please koreksi kalo salah) AT least for TOMORROW karena saat ini Dow future udah +87 versi CNN. Hati hati sekarang angka Dow future lagi BEDA2 ??$$$% - Pak DE menyiratkan kedepan akan musim HUJAN sedang pak Madangkara menyiratkan besok TERANG (ENGGA hujan) KALO TANGKAPAN embah salah mohon dikoreksi and please nulisnya jangan SEPOTONG-SEPOTONG, ini masalah DOEIT, kalo salah NANGKEP baca tulisan pak Madangkara, duit bisa melayang. Kalo salah analisa masih wajar, kalo SALAH NGERTI baca tulisan bapak, KAN SAYANG... Tambahan analisa bandarmologi dari embah: - Kalo saham BUMI naik artinya besok IHSG naek seperti minggu lalu. BUMI saat ini menjadi leading indicator dari IHSG... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Ksatria Madangkara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BAD. One of clues in bear market. See EXXON in 1970. DJIA, Fut + now = bulls spreading... but let's not get fooled. *SO...* Peace
[obrolan-bandar] SELL MIRA NOW
Dear Folks, I've been watching MIRA for few days.and the result is the company DOES NOT have enough money to BRING the price UP. tomorrow will be a GREAT DISASTER... the price will go down below 600. TODAY, BIG PLAYER out from MIRA, including ME (XL). SEE the TOP SELLER, CM, they should be the STAND BY BUYER, but they sold their stocks during these few daysWHY ? BCOZ NOT ENOUGH MONEY Regards, MIRA BIG PLAYER
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Perhatikan cara bd kabur di ENRG sekarang...
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Heryadi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr Oentoeng waktu jum'at kemaren Makinta ambil banyak. apakah ENRG ini termasuk dari portofolio Makinta Mantap yang returnnya diatas 100 % per thn? Salam, Yang jelas saham X kalau tidak dikerjain yah tidak akan kemana2... Kalau dapat lawan yg berat, mestinya kita mencari kawan yg SEPADAN. Nah karena kondisi saat ini cukup RAWAN, kita mesti mencari kawan2 yg GESIT ama LINCAH. Ini semua adalah hasil kerja KEROYOKAN, dimana TST kalau situasi tidak memungkinkan kayak kemarin. Target hari ini benernya cuman pengen men-JEBOL pertahanan lawan di 1390-1400, walaupun perjuangan MELELAHKAN terjadi di 1360-1370. Semua bisa terjadi karena IKHTIAR ama DOA... Ketik REG spasi ENRG kirim ke 2000 bila Tuhan meridhoi anda akan KAYA Pesen dari sang Sopir
[obrolan-bandar] help donks....
hmm gmana neh nyangkut di Poly lumayan cut lost ato gimana yah??? mohon kabarnya donks tentang poly ^^
[obrolan-bandar] Re: info para kontraktor?
kalo ngeliat posisi mereka sebagai kontraktor tentu lebih nguntungin jadi kontraktor karena mereka punya risk yg harus ditanggung dan capital mereka juga besar2. sementara operator, kalo contohnya jasa marga, hmm..ini punya kartu sakti sih..he3x. kalo bandingannya operator telpon dengan kontraktor BTS ini lain cerita juga pak..he3x.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: FW: MSCI_Nov07_ProvSCPublicList_051107.pdf
Yg DIHAPUS: - ENRG - TRUB - PTBA Nah LO ? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Agung Cap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: andi Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 7:51 PM Subject: Fw: MSCI_Nov07_ProvSCPublicList_051107.pdf Berikut info yg masuk dalam daftar list (approved) oleh Morgan Stanley (MSCI)...ada juga yg dikeluarkan (deletion)... Thx An
[obrolan-bandar] IHSG MINING
16 Agustus IHSG low di 1863 dan sektor MINING low 1302 1 November IHSG high di 2732 dan sektor MINING high 2995 IHSG diBALAP sama MINING BUMI low 2025 sekarang 5000 INCO low 39200 high 117000 TINS low 8850 high 23400 ANTM low 1825 high 3725 kalau IHSG ada 50 saham MINING, IHSG bisa sama sepert HSI, he. regards
Re: [obrolan-bandar] help donks....
katanya mau di delisting pak .. tapi gak tahu benar atau gak /// On Nov 6, 2007 7:46 PM, blue_rud_7 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hmm gmana neh nyangkut di Poly lumayan cut lost ato gimana yah??? mohon kabarnya donks tentang poly ^^
Re: [obrolan-bandar] help donks....
Sebelum cut loss perlu dipertimbangkan (kayaknya klise sih): - berapa persentase loss yg bisa Anda tolerir 5%, 10% - berapa lama Anda bisa tolerir dana tsb ngendon di POLY 1 bln, 2 bln, 3 bln - prospek sahamnya, kalau fundamentalnya kurang bagus kenapa harus lama-lama pegang, tapi kalo fundamentalnya bagus (misal ANTM, TLKM) simpen aja Pak.. - apakah ada kesempatan gain di saham lain, kalo anda yakin cut loss di POLY bisa ditutup oleh saham lain tsb kenapa gak? - terakhir sih gimana feeling aja (EQ) ini harus dilatih. It's up to u. Santai aja Bro, kalo saya sih main saham n baca2 milis OB buat ngisi waktu luang daripada bengong pikiran kemana-mana. _ Original message _ Subject:[obrolan-bandar] help donks Author: blue_rud_7 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 06th November 2007 7:46:53 PM hmm gmana neh nyangkut di Poly lumayan cut lost ato gimana yah??? mohon kabarnya donks tentang poly ^^
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Feeling aja.. tolong jangan di gebukin ...
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Ksatria Madangkara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: REI, to the point: 20.000 by 2008. The choice is yours. Watch your back and keep your nose clean, body. Peace Mr. Ksatria maksudnya saham apa tuch yg 20.000?.tq
Re: [obrolan-bandar] FW: MSCI_Nov07_ProvSCPublicList_051107.pdf
TRUB ilang dr MSCI small cap, tp masuk ke MSCI satunya lagi On 11/6/07, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yg DIHAPUS: - ENRG - TRUB - PTBA Nah LO ? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Agung Cap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: andi Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 7:51 PM Subject: Fw: MSCI_Nov07_ProvSCPublicList_051107.pdf Berikut info yg masuk dalam daftar list (approved) oleh Morgan Stanley (MSCI)...ada juga yg dikeluarkan (deletion)... Thx An
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Feeling aja.. tolong jangan di gebukin ...
Hey thank you buddy. See? People are so kind. And you know what, there will always be people like you sharing their knowledge. Actually I always receive PMs as well when I ask things in these lists. Actually I am working hard to understand how this thing of dagang saham works. I am beginning to have understandings piece by piece. You'll be surpirsed when I'll become a master very soon hehehe I don't really get what you mean about preparing for the fight tomorrow. Why do you suggest me to go home preparing things for the fight tomorrow? What to prepare? Who is the contractor and who is the operator? What kind of stone could kill 2 birds at the same time? It seems you are a kungfu master here. Not because of your name (I know Brama is a sakti man), but I can also see your kesaktian from your confidence in your writings. Please do not hesitate to share your jurus2 sakti :). Thank you On 11/6/07, Ksatria Madangkara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AA AR, Go home, have dinner, and watch 'sinetron cahaya' while thinking this: 1. PER = Price to Earning Ratio, PBV = Price to Book Value. (the rest: find yourself) 2. If U can kill 2 birds with 1 stone, why not 'MR. CONTRACTOR OPERATOR'/2 in 1, and not separately. See behind the scenes. Welcome to Indo! Now, go home... bodies. I'll smoke and see the moon. Peace Watch your back and keep your nose clean.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: help donks....
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, anto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dalam investasi saham tidak boleh ada perasaan sayang atau menyesal dalam melakukan suatu keputusan. Pernah pemain juga dulu banyak sekali cutloss disaham preman dengan bahkan kerugian diatas 50%, tapi pemain masuk ke pertambangan, dan pemain sudah untung kembali berlipat lipat. Sebelum cut loss perlu dipertimbangkan (kayaknya klise sih): - berapa persentase loss yg bisa Anda tolerir 5%, 10% - berapa lama Anda bisa tolerir dana tsb ngendon di POLY 1 bln, 2 bln, 3 bln - prospek sahamnya, kalau fundamentalnya kurang bagus kenapa harus lama-lama pegang, tapi kalo fundamentalnya bagus (misal ANTM, TLKM) simpen aja Pak.. - apakah ada kesempatan gain di saham lain, kalo anda yakin cut loss di POLY bisa ditutup oleh saham lain tsb kenapa gak? - terakhir sih gimana feeling aja (EQ) ini harus dilatih. It's up to u. Santai aja Bro, kalo saya sih main saham n baca2 milis OB buat ngisi waktu luang daripada bengong pikiran kemana-mana. _ Original message _ Subject: [obrolan-bandar] help donks Author: blue_rud_7 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 06th November 2007 7:46:53 PM hmm gmana neh nyangkut di Poly lumayan cut lost ato gimana yah??? mohon kabarnya donks tentang poly ^^
[obrolan-bandar] IHSG BISA TEMBUS 3000 DENGAN BANTUAN SAHAM ANTM, BUMI DAN INCO.
ANTM, BUMI dan INCO bisa membantu IHSG lebih cepat lagi tembus 3000 di akhir 2007. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] Re: info para kontraktor?
dari website, jasa marga operates 78% dari jalan tol di indonesia. artinya, agak monopolistik. posisi dari nearest kompetitor - jauuh. revenue terjamin, asal tarif naik terus. agak2 mirip lah sama duopoli telco jaman dulu. betul pak ? salam --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jeremia.jefferson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: kalo ngeliat posisi mereka sebagai kontraktor tentu lebih nguntungin jadi kontraktor karena mereka punya risk yg harus ditanggung dan capital mereka juga besar2. sementara operator, kalo contohnya jasa marga, hmm..ini punya kartu sakti sih..he3x. kalo bandingannya operator telpon dengan kontraktor BTS ini lain cerita juga pak..he3x.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] help donks....
skrg udah di 50 .. gak mungkin turun lagi dan susah naek nya .. hidup segan mati tak mau .. On Nov 6, 2007 8:39 PM, anto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sebelum cut loss perlu dipertimbangkan (kayaknya klise sih): - berapa persentase loss yg bisa Anda tolerir 5%, 10% - berapa lama Anda bisa tolerir dana tsb ngendon di POLY 1 bln, 2 bln, 3 bln - prospek sahamnya, kalau fundamentalnya kurang bagus kenapa harus lama-lama pegang, tapi kalo fundamentalnya bagus (misal ANTM, TLKM) simpen aja Pak.. - apakah ada kesempatan gain di saham lain, kalo anda yakin cut loss di POLY bisa ditutup oleh saham lain tsb kenapa gak? - terakhir sih gimana feeling aja (EQ) ini harus dilatih. It's up to u. Santai aja Bro, kalo saya sih main saham n baca2 milis OB buat ngisi waktu luang daripada bengong pikiran kemana-mana. _ Original message _ Subject: [obrolan-bandar] help donks Author: blue_rud_7 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 06th November 2007 7:46:53 PM hmm gmana neh nyangkut di Poly lumayan cut lost ato gimana yah??? mohon kabarnya donks tentang poly ^^
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Analisa DE: Cuma mining yang angkat IHSG (wajarkah?)
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, darma erwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Memang anda benar. Ada yg punya ribuan LOT INCO harganya tidak sampai harga satu bungkus mie ayam yg dijual abang abang di terminal bis. Ehh...penonton..kayaknya INCO 3 tahun yang lalu 6000an yakksekarang kok kayak begene busyeet dahh..e ntong, nci, babeh jangan pade tidur aje. tuh lihat yang pada nyimpen eceran jaman dulu kagak punya ampe ratusan lot aja sekarang jadi bandar, eh bandar entar lagi mau stock split yakk...udah deh jangan pada maen2 kasihan yang menonton apalagi yang pada ngiler... komoditas emang maknjuss...top markotop Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sekali lagi MINING/ENERGY juara. Sayangnya tidak diikuti sektor lain. Misc Industri (ASII) sudah lemas. Agri hanya tumbuh sedikit. Property juga makin underperform thd indeks. Saya nggak tahu, is this supposed to be GOOD or BAD? Silahkan dinilai sendiri... Satu lagi.. ada yang menarik.. (atau lebih tepat mencurigakan), harga metal yang bullish hanya timah, nickel cenderung sideways... tapi apa yang terjadi pada saham tambang nickel (INCO dan ANTM)...? Super bullish! cmiiw Berikut gambar chart 3M diambil dari www.lme.co.uk (sejak 1 jun 07) 3M=3 month contract Regards, DE TIN 3M PRICE NICKEL 3M PRICE KINERJA SEKTORAL RELATIF TERHADAP IHSG (garis putus-putus) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Analisa DE: Cuma mining yang angkat IHSG (wajarkah?)
hehe .. it's so funny .. On Nov 6, 2007 9:28 PM, tbumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saham BUMI tergantung harga minyak dunia. Kalau minyak tembus $300, maka anda bisa tambah kaya lagi, mungkin BUMI tembus jadi 3. Kalo saham BUMI naik artinya besok IHSG naek seperti minggu lalu. BUMI saat ini menjadi leading indicator dari IHSG... Kenapa Mbah? Saya mungkin miss tulisan mbah mengenai ini...makasih Mbah! jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Embah mencoba menangkap tulisan pak DE dan pak Madangkara: - Pak DE meragukan keadaan BULL saat ini karena tidak semua sector naik. - BULL menurut Mr Dow, menyaratkan index semua menguat pada arah yg sama. Jadi trader yg pegang saham apa saja akan untung karena semua cenderung naik. - Pak Madangkara 'menyiratkan' BULL akan menyebar kesektor yg lain (please koreksi kalo salah) AT least for TOMORROW karena saat ini Dow future udah +87 versi CNN. Hati hati sekarang angka Dow future lagi BEDA2 ??$$$% - Pak DE menyiratkan kedepan akan musim HUJAN sedang pak Madangkara menyiratkan besok TERANG (ENGGA hujan) KALO TANGKAPAN embah salah mohon dikoreksi and please nulisnya jangan SEPOTONG-SEPOTONG, ini masalah DOEIT, kalo salah NANGKEP baca tulisan pak Madangkara, duit bisa melayang. Kalo salah analisa masih wajar, kalo SALAH NGERTI baca tulisan bapak, KAN SAYANG... Tambahan analisa bandarmologi dari embah: - Kalo saham BUMI naik artinya besok IHSG naek seperti minggu lalu. BUMI saat ini menjadi leading indicator dari IHSG... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Ksatria Madangkara brahmakumbara007@ wrote: BAD. One of clues in bear market. See EXXON in 1970. DJIA, Fut + now = bulls spreading... but let's not get fooled. *SO...* Peace __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] yah ... Minyak naik lagi dech ...
kan baru masuk musim dingin.. apalagi ntar akhir bulan pas thanksgiving.. hehee On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 21:18:37 +0700, boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tembus ke 100 kayaknya ascending triangle. + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali memang diperlukan. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG MINING
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bersyukurlah negara kami kaya dengan pertambangan, maka pemain kebagian rezeki di saham pertambangan juga. 16 Agustus IHSG low di 1863 dan sektor MINING low 1302 1 November IHSG high di 2732 dan sektor MINING high 2995 IHSG diBALAP sama MINING BUMI low 2025 sekarang 5000 INCO low 39200 high 117000 TINS low 8850 high 23400 ANTM low 1825 high 3725 kalau IHSG ada 50 saham MINING, IHSG bisa sama sepert HSI, he. regards
[obrolan-bandar] Re: help donks....
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Boen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nasi sudah jadi bubur. Tunggu tgl kematian saja. skrg udah di 50 .. gak mungkin turun lagi dan susah naek nya .. hidup segan mati tak mau .. On Nov 6, 2007 8:39 PM, anto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sebelum cut loss perlu dipertimbangkan (kayaknya klise sih): - berapa persentase loss yg bisa Anda tolerir 5%, 10% - berapa lama Anda bisa tolerir dana tsb ngendon di POLY 1 bln, 2 bln, 3 bln - prospek sahamnya, kalau fundamentalnya kurang bagus kenapa harus lama-lama pegang, tapi kalo fundamentalnya bagus (misal ANTM, TLKM) simpen aja Pak.. - apakah ada kesempatan gain di saham lain, kalo anda yakin cut loss di POLY bisa ditutup oleh saham lain tsb kenapa gak? - terakhir sih gimana feeling aja (EQ) ini harus dilatih. It's up to u. Santai aja Bro, kalo saya sih main saham n baca2 milis OB buat ngisi waktu luang daripada bengong pikiran kemana-mana. _ Original message _ Subject: [obrolan-bandar] help donks Author: blue_rud_7 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 06th November 2007 7:46:53 PM hmm gmana neh nyangkut di Poly lumayan cut lost ato gimana yah??? mohon kabarnya donks tentang poly ^^
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Feeling aja.. tolong jangan di gebukin ...
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, abdulrahim abdulrahim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh maksute BUMI dan DEWA is it Correct Hey thank you buddy. See? People are so kind. And you know what, there will always be people like you sharing their knowledge. Actually I always receive PMs as well when I ask things in these lists. Actually I am working hard to understand how this thing of dagang saham works. I am beginning to have understandings piece by piece. You'll be surpirsed when I'll become a master very soon hehehe I don't really get what you mean about preparing for the fight tomorrow. Why do you suggest me to go home preparing things for the fight tomorrow? What to prepare? Who is the contractor and who is the operator? What kind of stone could kill 2 birds at the same time? It seems you are a kungfu master here. Not because of your name (I know Brama is a sakti man), but I can also see your kesaktian from your confidence in your writings. Please do not hesitate to share your jurus2 sakti :). Thank you On 11/6/07, Ksatria Madangkara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AA AR, Go home, have dinner, and watch 'sinetron cahaya' while thinking this: 1. PER = Price to Earning Ratio, PBV = Price to Book Value. (the rest: find yourself) 2. If U can kill 2 birds with 1 stone, why not 'MR. CONTRACTOR OPERATOR'/2 in 1, and not separately. See behind the scenes. Welcome to Indo! Now, go home... bodies. I'll smoke and see the moon. Peace Watch your back and keep your nose clean.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Perhatikan cara bd kabur di ENRG sekarang...
P Oen, ada denger denger dewa mau ke 1000 tidak? tau siapa bandar dewa di KI yg seenak jidat buang dewa 3-4pt kebawah ? oentoeng_qq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Heryadi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr Oentoeng waktu jum'at kemaren Makinta ambil banyak. apakah ENRG ini termasuk dari portofolio Makinta Mantap yang returnnya diatas 100 % per thn? Salam, Yang jelas saham X kalau tidak dikerjain yah tidak akan kemana2... Kalau dapat lawan yg berat, mestinya kita mencari kawan yg SEPADAN. Nah karena kondisi saat ini cukup RAWAN, kita mesti mencari kawan2 yg GESIT ama LINCAH. Ini semua adalah hasil kerja KEROYOKAN, dimana TST kalau situasi tidak memungkinkan kayak kemarin. Target hari ini benernya cuman pengen men-JEBOL pertahanan lawan di 1390-1400, walaupun perjuangan MELELAHKAN terjadi di 1360-1370. Semua bisa terjadi karena IKHTIAR ama DOA... Ketik REG spasi ENRG kirim ke 2000 bila Tuhan meridhoi anda akan KAYA Pesen dari sang Sopir __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Analisa DE: Cuma mining yang angkat IHSG (wajarkah?)
Ingat presiden kita jatoh karena minyak naek (minyak masih jauh dibawah $100). Kalo minyak $300, bukan cuman presidennya yg jatoh, langit juga jatuh NIMPA KITA karena akan ada REVOLUSI SOSIAL. Boro boro you bisa kaya, masih bisa idup selamet aja udah untung --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tbumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei highwaystar91@ wrote: Saham BUMI tergantung harga minyak dunia. Kalau minyak tembus $300, maka anda bisa tambah kaya lagi, mungkin BUMI tembus jadi 3.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: FW: MSCI_Nov07_ProvSCPublicList_051107.pdf
Dear friends, ENRG emang kurang diminati analis asing, mereka suka rekomen BUMI, PGAS, SGRO, INCO, ASII, dll (mohon lihat postingan yang lama). Sedang saham cap kecil, kurang dilirik. Si bule selalu liat fundamentalnya, ternyata kebanyakan bener juga sih. Tapi gue juga punya ENRG walau dikit. Thanks nih NB : hari ini puas juga besok, tapi kita ati2 aja diKamis atawa Jumat --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yg DIHAPUS: - ENRG - TRUB - PTBA Nah LO ?
RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ANTM : TERBESAR DI VOLUME VALUE. TERKUAT DAN TERPERCAYA JUGA !
Masa beli di 3650 di HIGH ??? From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of abdulrahim abdulrahim Sent: 05 Nopember 2007 1:52 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ANTM : TERBESAR DI VOLUME VALUE. TERKUAT DAN TERPERCAYA JUGA ! Waduh, nunggu turun di bawah 3000 atau beli di 3650 nih pak DE, pak TBUMI ??? On 11/4/07, Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:dean.earwicker%40gmail.com wrote: Tendensius sekali :) Saya tunggu di 3000 aja, boleh ya..? Regards, DE On Nov 4, 2007 9:49 PM, tbumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tbumi%40yahoo.com wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nanti suatu hari bisa tertinggi naiknya di bursa Jakarta dan bahkan teraman di antara saham lainnya. Ada 1 lagi pak...Terlama naiknya dibanding tambang2 lainnya J/K. Antm mantap koq! Budi Sh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kalau dilihat trading setiap hari, boleh dikatakan ANTM ini seperti tak tersaing di bursa Jakarta lagi utk saat ini dan waktu yang akan datang juga. Semua TER... di ANTM. - Terbesar proyeknya di pertambangan - Terbaik laporan keuangannya - Terkecil PER (karena dibawah 10) - Terkuat dalam menghadapi serangan badai - Terlaris sahamnya di bursa Jakarta baik di volume dan value - Terpercaya bagi investor asing - Tercinta bagi ibu ibu rumah tangga utk tabungan pendidikan anaknya - Termashyur emiten ini di bursa Jakarta - Teraman bagi investor jangka panjang - Termurah diantara saham pertambangan yg ada di bursa Jakarta Belum pernah ada investor yg kecewa dengan ANTM On Nov 4, 2007 9:49 PM, tbumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tbumi%40yahoo.com wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nanti suatu hari bisa tertinggi naiknya di bursa Jakarta dan bahkan teraman di antara saham lainnya. Ada 1 lagi pak...Terlama naiknya dibanding tambang2 lainnya J/K. Antm mantap koq! Budi Sh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kalau dilihat trading setiap hari, boleh dikatakan ANTM ini seperti tak tersaing di bursa Jakarta lagi utk saat ini dan waktu yang akan datang juga. Semua TER... di ANTM. - Terbesar proyeknya di pertambangan - Terbaik laporan keuangannya - Terkecil PER (karena dibawah 10) - Terkuat dalam menghadapi serangan badai - Terlaris sahamnya di bursa Jakarta baik di volume dan value - Terpercaya bagi investor asing - Tercinta bagi ibu ibu rumah tangga utk tabungan pendidikan anaknya - Termashyur emiten ini di bursa Jakarta - Teraman bagi investor jangka panjang - Termurah diantara saham pertambangan yg ada di bursa Jakarta Belum pernah ada investor yg kecewa dengan ANTM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.14/1100 - Release Date: 30/10/2007 18:26 _ I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 6575 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter http://www.spamfighter.com/len for free now!
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Analisa DE: Cuma mining yang angkat IHSG (wajarkah?)
Setuju Mbah .. haha .. gak tahan pengen ketawa .., tbumi anggota extravaganza kalee .. regards On Nov 6, 2007 10:18 PM, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ingat presiden kita jatoh karena minyak naek (minyak masih jauh dibawah $100). Kalo minyak $300, bukan cuman presidennya yg jatoh, langit juga jatuh NIMPA KITA karena akan ada REVOLUSI SOSIAL. Boro boro you bisa kaya, masih bisa idup selamet aja udah untung --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, tbumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Rei highwaystar91@ wrote: Saham BUMI tergantung harga minyak dunia. Kalau minyak tembus $300, maka anda bisa tambah kaya lagi, mungkin BUMI tembus jadi 3.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG MININ
anda ini menulis seolah olah anggota laen milis ini dari luar negeri dech ?? coba check tata bahasanya - agak sedikit gak pas kayaknya .. maap sebelumnya bunk tbumi. On Nov 6, 2007 9:25 PM, tbumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bersyukurlah negara kami kaya dengan pertambangan, maka pemain kebagian rezeki di saham pertambangan juga. 16 Agustus IHSG low di 1863 dan sektor MINING low 1302 1 November IHSG high di 2732 dan sektor MINING high 2995 IHSG diBALAP sama MINING BUMI low 2025 sekarang 5000 INCO low 39200 high 117000 TINS low 8850 high 23400 ANTM low 1825 high 3725 kalau IHSG ada 50 saham MINING, IHSG bisa sama sepert HSI, he. regards
[obrolan-bandar] Re: help donks.... POLY
Dear sobat, di POLY, gue gain 1 kali n kecentok 2 kali. Saran : di CL aja. Masih banyak saham yang naik 10 % sehari koq atau saham prospek luaarr biasa dikemudian hari. Emang sih : Cut loss atau average down is part of the game, cuma SAKITnya itu lho. Cuma POLY khan dah mentok dibawah. HeHe sama-sama buat pelajaran (maaf kalo nyingung yang lain) NB : kabarnya POLY mo dibeli asing Salam Rabu pasti IHSG OK punya koq --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Boen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: katanya mau di delisting pak .. tapi gak tahu benar atau gak /// On Nov 6, 2007 7:46 PM, blue_rud_7 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hmm gmana neh nyangkut di Poly lumayan cut lost ato gimana yah??? mohon kabarnya donks tentang poly ^^
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Analisa DE: Cuma mining yang angkat IHSG (wajarkah?)
mm, presiden yg mana yah mbah... tapi saya optimis minyak bisa ke $300, mungkin 4-5 tahun lagi... dan saat itu MUNGKIN industri BIODIESEL dan energi alternatif kita sudah maju. So, it can be good news. Just keep optimistic on everything, yuuk.. ya mungkin besok-besok PASTI akan ada koreksi (biar gimana mesti realized profit kan, kalo nggak bd nya bisa digetok sama provost), entah itu namanya pentungan, bom nuklir, atau apalah, tapi saya percaya BOZZ tahu apa yang mereka kerjakan, dan tentunya tidak akan mengecewakan orang-orang dibelakangnya. Lagipula siapa yang bisa jamin BUMI gak bakal ke 3? Yang gak bisa ditebak kan waktunya... hehe.. sapa tahu pak mentri jadi RI-1? Regards, DE On Nov 6, 2007 10:18 PM, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ingat presiden kita jatoh karena minyak naek (minyak masih jauh dibawah $100). Kalo minyak $300, bukan cuman presidennya yg jatoh, langit juga jatuh NIMPA KITA karena akan ada REVOLUSI SOSIAL. Boro boro you bisa kaya, masih bisa idup selamet aja udah untung --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, tbumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Rei highwaystar91@ wrote: Saham BUMI tergantung harga minyak dunia. Kalau minyak tembus $300, maka anda bisa tambah kaya lagi, mungkin BUMI tembus jadi 3.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: FW: MSCI_Nov07_ProvSCPublicList_051107.pdf
Naik kelas kali Embah... Ke MSCI yg lain-lainnya lagi... ;-) Contohnya lihat attachment... -- Salam ALX™ On 11/6/07, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yg DIHAPUS: - ENRG - TRUB - PTBA Nah LO ? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Agung Cap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: andi Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 7:51 PM Subject: Fw: MSCI_Nov07_ProvSCPublicList_051107.pdf Berikut info yg masuk dalam daftar list (approved) oleh Morgan Stanley (MSCI)...ada juga yg dikeluarkan (deletion)... Thx An MSCI_Nov07_ProvSTPublicList_051107.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG MININ
Hahaha... Anda yang lucu sekali komentarnya pak Boen... Betul juga. Itu gara2 pak tbumi bilam KAMI melulu sih... hehehe On 11/6/07, Mr. Boen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anda ini menulis seolah olah anggota laen milis ini dari luar negeri dech ?? coba check tata bahasanya - agak sedikit gak pas kayaknya .. maap sebelumnya bunk tbumi. On Nov 6, 2007 9:25 PM, tbumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bersyukurlah negara kami kaya dengan pertambangan, maka pemain kebagian rezeki di saham pertambangan juga. 16 Agustus IHSG low di 1863 dan sektor MINING low 1302 1 November IHSG high di 2732 dan sektor MINING high 2995 IHSG diBALAP sama MINING BUMI low 2025 sekarang 5000 INCO low 39200 high 117000 TINS low 8850 high 23400 ANTM low 1825 high 3725 kalau IHSG ada 50 saham MINING, IHSG bisa sama sepert HSI, he. regards
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG MININ
NEGARA KITA dong.. nasionalis dikit boleh laa... kita punya best performing stock market setelah shanghai lo.. Regards, DE On Nov 6, 2007 9:25 PM, tbumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bersyukurlah *negara kami* kaya dengan pertambangan, maka pemain kebagian rezeki di saham pertambangan juga. 16 Agustus IHSG low di 1863 dan sektor MINING low 1302 1 November IHSG high di 2732 dan sektor MINING high 2995 IHSG diBALAP sama MINING BUMI low 2025 sekarang 5000 INCO low 39200 high 117000 TINS low 8850 high 23400 ANTM low 1825 high 3725 kalau IHSG ada 50 saham MINING, IHSG bisa sama sepert HSI, he. regards
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG MININ
Really, runner up?? wow.. Tadi pagi (GMT+1) saya liat CNN, alibaba.com punya china dapet gede banget di IPOnya. keren abis. Dari komentar jurnalis, saya jadi tau kalau orang di negeri cina itu lebih melek saham ternyata Hmm difikir2, mereka khan mikirnya duit melulu. Ya pantes aja, soal saham mereka tob abis. On 11/6/07, Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NEGARA KITA dong.. nasionalis dikit boleh laa... kita punya best performing stock market setelah shanghai lo.. Regards, DE On Nov 6, 2007 9:25 PM, tbumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bersyukurlah negara kami kaya dengan pertambangan, maka pemain kebagian rezeki di saham pertambangan juga. 16 Agustus IHSG low di 1863 dan sektor MINING low 1302 1 November IHSG high di 2732 dan sektor MINING high 2995 IHSG diBALAP sama MINING BUMI low 2025 sekarang 5000 INCO low 39200 high 117000 TINS low 8850 high 23400 ANTM low 1825 high 3725 kalau IHSG ada 50 saham MINING, IHSG bisa sama sepert HSI, he. regards
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Perhatikan cara bd kabur di ENRG sekarang...
Sejujurnya koleksi dewa krn berita mau dibw ke 1000 jg.tp kok kayaknya jauh panggang dr api neh pak. On 11/6/07, Vincent Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P Oen, ada denger denger dewa mau ke 1000 tidak? tau siapa bandar dewa di KI yg seenak jidat buang dewa 3-4pt kebawah ? oentoeng_qq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Heryadi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr Oentoeng waktu jum'at kemaren Makinta ambil banyak. apakah ENRG ini termasuk dari portofolio Makinta Mantap yang returnnya diatas 100 % per thn? Salam, Yang jelas saham X kalau tidak dikerjain yah tidak akan kemana2... Kalau dapat lawan yg berat, mestinya kita mencari kawan yg SEPADAN. Nah karena kondisi saat ini cukup RAWAN, kita mesti mencari kawan2 yg GESIT ama LINCAH. Ini semua adalah hasil kerja KEROYOKAN, dimana TST kalau situasi tidak memungkinkan kayak kemarin. Target hari ini benernya cuman pengen men-JEBOL pertahanan lawan di 1390-1400, walaupun perjuangan MELELAHKAN terjadi di 1360-1370. Semua bisa terjadi karena IKHTIAR ama DOA... Ketik REG spasi ENRG kirim ke 2000 bila Tuhan meridhoi anda akan KAYA Pesen dari sang Sopir __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] Re: yah ... Minyak naik lagi dech ...
Memang bener klu disebut juga sbg emas hitam.. emas bagi satu pihak.. hitam bagi yg lain... :P Kita2 aja sekarang blum langsung kerasa dampak kenaikannya (dari dulu bgitu).. karena mekanisme subsidi bukan memakai mekanisme pasar murni.. (sengaja) ditunda karena pertimbangan politis.. padahal beban subsidi dg tingkat harga sekarang, udah naik hampir 2 x lipet dari anggaran semula.. pasti udah ngos2-an bin puyeng 9 keliling tu orang2 yg berwenang (depkeu). Kuat2-an bin pinter2-an aja ama pasar en legislatif.. akrobat..akrobat dach.. nyari tutupannya.. yg paling pas tentunya, biar ga nabrak2 target/anggaran lainnya (target defisit anggaran, target inflasi, dll) Klu dah ga kuat ama realita pasar en ndak bisa di-tutup2-in lagi dari Senayan... terpaksa dech.. apa boleh baut.. BOOMMM!!!... Semua pasti keseret ndak pandang bulu... mau bulu ayam, bulu burung, bulu kucing, bulu kukus...hehehe.. kok jadi ngaco gnie sie.. efek domino gtu lah... Yah ati2 aja... sekedar mengingatkan (sok inget dach..saya..klu udah gnie :D) Segitu aja.. maaf klu kepanjangan (pdhl saya sbenernya..senengnya yg pendek2 lho :P) dan terkesan terlalu pesimistis..seperti kata Mbah bilang... krn menyangkut masalah Doeit... biar ga salah nangkep.. klu salah analisa.. udah jelas itu trade mark saya mah.. ber-probabilitas besar untuk salah...hihihi.. Salam --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Odink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: kan baru masuk musim dingin.. apalagi ntar akhir bulan pas thanksgiving.. hehee On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 21:18:37 +0700, boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tembus ke 100 kayaknya ascending triangle.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] help donks....
Kalo perlu memang delisting saja sekalian ini saham,biar tidak ada lg yg keblasuk didalamnya. WASPADALAH! WASPADALAH! On 11/6/07, Mr. Boen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: skrg udah di 50 .. gak mungkin turun lagi dan susah naek nya .. hidup segan mati tak mau .. On Nov 6, 2007 8:39 PM, anto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sebelum cut loss perlu dipertimbangkan (kayaknya klise sih): - berapa persentase loss yg bisa Anda tolerir 5%, 10% - berapa lama Anda bisa tolerir dana tsb ngendon di POLY 1 bln, 2 bln, 3 bln - prospek sahamnya, kalau fundamentalnya kurang bagus kenapa harus lama-lama pegang, tapi kalo fundamentalnya bagus (misal ANTM, TLKM) simpen aja Pak.. - apakah ada kesempatan gain di saham lain, kalo anda yakin cut loss di POLY bisa ditutup oleh saham lain tsb kenapa gak? - terakhir sih gimana feeling aja (EQ) ini harus dilatih. It's up to u. Santai aja Bro, kalo saya sih main saham n baca2 milis OB buat ngisi waktu luang daripada bengong pikiran kemana-mana. _ Original message _ Subject: [obrolan-bandar] help donks Author: blue_rud_7 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 06th November 2007 7:46:53 PM hmm gmana neh nyangkut di Poly lumayan cut lost ato gimana yah??? mohon kabarnya donks tentang poly ^^
[obrolan-bandar] Breaking News : Indonesia on focus Next week in Bloomberg Television
Wow, cheers up and prepare for the new funds coming soon to Indonesia. I just watched Bloomberg Television a minutes ago, and there's advertisement regarding one of their programme for next week as I mention on the subject above. (every day for the whole week) I hope that programme will brings a lot of funds to our stock exchange too. Cheers DJ
Re: [obrolan-bandar] AmiQuote cuma download sampai H-1 dari Yahoo
untuk Yahoo Historical memang bgitu pak, setelah itu ganti ke Yahoo Curent. Pada tanggal 06/11/07, abdulrahim abdulrahim [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: Saya dari tadi nyobain pengen download data dari Yahoo! Finance pake AmiQuote. Koq cuma sampai tgl 5 ya? (sekarang khan udah tgl 6, di amrik pun udah tgl 6)? Ada yang tau gimana agar AmiBroker saya bisa bikin charts sampe detik terikini?? ;)
Re[2]: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Analisa DE: Cuma mining yang angkat IHSG (wajarkah?)
Hem, kalo minyak ke 300$ sudah kehilangan nilai ekonominya, bisa saja sih tetapi mungkin sudah bukan commodity lagi, melainkan chemical goods, tentunya sudah keluar dari pasar nymex. Dengan oil price 100$ / barrel, biofuel sudah menunjukkan nilai ekonominya, bahkan dengan harga dibawah itu, salah satu pengganjal majunya biofuel di Indonesia adalah: 1. Perhatian pemerintah yang mengharapkan swasta yang mengembangkan, padahal ini akan menjadi Pertamina yang baru. 2. Bisa jadi ada sikap reluktansi dari pihak yang berkepentingan, dhi Pertamina karena menyangkut persaingan bisnis yang sebelumnya tidak ada. 3. Dalam skala yang besar, jika pengembangan biofuel menggunakan bahan pangan maka akan terjadi permasalahan baru, sebab akan terjadi rebutan antara perut manusia dengan tangki fuel mobil :) 4. Dalam penelitian yang lebih baik, dijelaskan bahwa ganggang hijau adalah alternatif terbaik untuk pengembangan bio fuel, tidak tahu kenapa Pemerintah ini tidak terlihat perhatiannya kearah sana, padahal kita dengan potensi luasan laut yang besar, dapat menjadi keuntungan tersendiri. 5. Adanya subsidi, yang satu pihak menguntungkan, dipihak lain menghambat pengembangan biofuel, menjadikan gap price yang lebih tinggi. biofuel sudah didepan mata, siap / tidak siap karena negara indonesia saat ini adalah negara yang tergantung pada hasil minyak bumi, maka... hal ini akan menentukan masa depan negara kita juga... Tuesday, November 6, 2007, 10:43:54 PM, Dean wrote: DE mm, presiden yg mana yah mbah... DE tapi saya optimis minyak bisa ke $300, mungkin 4-5 tahun DE lagi... dan saat itu MUNGKIN industri BIODIESEL dan energi DE alternatif kita sudah maju. So, it can be good news. DE Just keep optimistic on everything, yuuk.. ya mungkin DE besok-besok PASTI akan ada koreksi (biar gimana mesti realized DE profit kan, kalo nggak bd nya bisa digetok sama provost), entah DE itu namanya pentungan, bom nuklir, atau apalah, tapi saya percaya DE BOZZ tahu apa yang mereka kerjakan, dan tentunya tidak akan DE mengecewakan orang-orang dibelakangnya. DE Lagipula siapa yang bisa jamin BUMI gak bakal ke 3? Yang DE gak bisa ditebak kan waktunya... hehe.. sapa tahu pak mentri jadi DE RI-1? DE Regards, DE DE Jul
[obrolan-bandar] DJI dikasih ijo dikit
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[obrolan-bandar] Crude Prices Soar Past $97 a Barrel on Middle East Bombings, Government Demand Expectations...
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/071106/oil_prices.html Oil Hits $97 on Bombs, Demand Forecast Tuesday November 6, 5:01 pm ET By John Wilen, AP Business Writer Crude Prices Soar Past $97 a Barrel on Middle East Bombings, Government Demand Expectations NEW YORK (AP) -- Oil futures jumped to a new record above $97 a barrel Tuesday after bombings in Afghanistan and an attack on a Yemeni oil pipeline compounded the supply concerns that have driven crude prices higher in recent weeks. Those concerns were also fed by a government prediction on Tuesday that domestic oil inventories will fall further this year while consumption rises. At the pump, meanwhile, gas prices continued to rise, following oil's 39 percent price rally since August. The national average price of a gallon of gas jumped 2 cents overnight to $3.024 a gallon, according to AAA and the Oil Price Information Service. Separately, the federal Energy Information Administration reported that diesel fuel prices reached a national average of $3.303 a gallon, a new record. Light, sweet crude for December delivery rose $2.72 to settle at a record $96.70 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange Tuesday after earlier rising as high as $97.10, a new trading record. Oil's seemingly relentless climb raises the question of how high energy prices will go. If crude does keep going up, it might be some time until consumers see relief at the pump. Some analysts predict prices could rise as high as $3.50 to $4 a gallon next summer. The Energy Information Administration is predicting gas prices will remain above $2.90 a gallon for the rest of the year, and will set a new record national average of $3.235 a gallon by May. In May 2007, prices peaked at $3.227 a gallon as refiners, faced with a series of unexpected outages, struggled to produce enough gas to meet demand. Meanwhile, estimates of where oil is headed from here range from $50 a barrel to $120. Some analysts believe supplies will get tighter as the year wears on, supporting prices. Others argue that prices have been driven artificially higher by speculative investing. The EIA expects crude oil prices to rise from an average of $71.36 a barrel this year to $79.92 a barrel next year. On Tuesday, oil was already up before news of the blasts in northern Afghanistan that killed 28 people and the attack in Yemen. Severe weather forecasts for the North Sea, expectations that domestic crude supplies fell last week and the weak dollar all contributed to the latest move upward. While Afghanistan doesn't produce much oil, traders watch for the possibility that any escalation in the conflict there between U.S. armed forces and Islamic militants could spill over into other countries, disrupting oil supplies out of the Middle East. John Kilduff, vice president of risk management at MF Global UK Ltd., noted that the attack in Yemen has disrupted a pipeline that carries 155,000 barrels a day of crude. Meanwhile, investors believe crude supplies are declining in the U.S. Analysts surveyed by Dow Jones Newswires predict, on average, that crude oil inventories fell by 1.6 million barrels last week. The EIA will issue its weekly inventory report on Wednesday. Oil futures' rise above $90 a barrel has been fueled in part by two weeks of unexpected declines in inventories. On Tuesday, the EIA predicted oil consumption will rise in the fourth quarter and next year despite higher prices, and that inventories will fall. Strong demand, limited surplus capacity, falling inventories and geopolitical concerns continue to weigh on the market, the EIA said in its monthly Short-Term Energy Outlook. The weak dollar, which fell to a new low against the euro Tuesday, is also lifting oil prices. Oil futures offer a hedge against a weak dollar, and oil futures bought and sold in dollars are more attractive to foreign investors when the greenback is falling. Oil prices settled 66 percent higher Tuesday than on Jan. 3, the first trading day of the year. But Tuesday's trading record of $97.10 a barrel is up 95 percent from this year's trading low of $49.90, set Jan. 18. Other energy futures also rose Tuesday. December gasoline futures jumped 5.39 cents to settle at $2.435 a gallon on the Nymex, while December heating oil futures added 6.39 cents to settle at $2.6078 a gallon. Natural gas for December delivery fell 13.6 cents to settle at $7.863 per 1,000 cubic feet on the Nymex on predictions for mild temperatures next week in the Midwest and Northeast, and expectations that inventories, already at record levels, will continue to rise. In London, Brent crude rose $2.77 to settle at $93.26 a barrel on the ICE Futures exchange. A number of North Sea oil platforms were being evacuated Tuesday in advance of expected severe weather. On Wednesday, analysts also expect the EIA to report that gasoline inventories rose by 200,000 barrels during the week ended Nov. 2, while supplies of distillates, which include
[obrolan-bandar] Stocks Jump As Investors Buy Bargains and Energy and Metals Producers; Credit Worries Remain...
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/071106/wall_street.html Stocks Rally As Credit Worries Remain Tuesday November 6, 5:26 pm ET By Madlen Read, AP Business Writer Stocks Jump As Investors Buy Bargains and Energy and Metals Producers; Credit Worries Remain NEW YORK (AP) -- Wall Street bounded higher Tuesday as investors still mindful of widening credit problems nonetheless went in search of bargain stocks. The Dow Jones industrial average rose 117 points, with soaring oil and precious metals prices driving up the companies that produce those commodities. Investors remain haunted by the big debt problems at banks, notably Citigroup Inc. and Merrill Lynch Co. But companies outside of the banking, lending and housing industries have been posting strong financial results -- on Tuesday, Tenet Healthcare Corp., Nortel Networks Corp. and Archer Daniels Midland Co. impressed Wall Street with their quarterly earnings. And with no major bad news to follow up Citigroup's Sunday announcement that it was preparing to mark down another $8 billion to $11 billion of subprime debt, even bank stocks, pummeled in recent months, looked like bargains. Citigroup fell, but JPMorgan Chase Co., Bank of America Corp., Wachovia Corp., Wells Fargo and Washington Mutual Inc. -- which all hit 52-week lows Monday -- each jumped Tuesday. There was an absence of bad news, said Jim Herrick, manager of equity trading at Baird Co. But there's room for another shoe to drop. I don't think we're out of the woods yet. It's a classic relief rally. The Dow rose 117.54 or 0.87 percent, to 13,660.94. The size of the gain masked the nervousness in the market; stocks were earlier in the session. Broader stock indicators also turned higher. The Standard Poor's 500 index rose 18.10, or 1.20 percent, to 1,520.27, and the Nasdaq composite index rose 30.00, or 1.07 percent, to 2,825.18. Government bonds dipped as money flowed back into stocks. The yield on the 10-year Treasury note, which moves opposite the price, rose to 4.37 percent from 4.34 percent late Monday. The Dow is about 500 points, about 3.5 percent, below the all-time high close of 14,164.53 it reached Oct. 9. Many companies, particularly in the technology and industrial sectors, have been consistently posting strong quarterly results, and appear undervalued. But third-quarter weakness in the financial sector -- the biggest in the SP 500 -- has dragged down overall U.S. earnings growth. We've had a pretty good run, as far as a return for the year for the broad market indices, said Janna Sampson, director of portfolio management at Oakbrook Investments, pointing out that the SP 500 index is up more than 8 percent for the year. There may not be, given the level of earnings growth, a lot more for this quarter. The dollar reached yet another record low against the euro. The 13-nation currency rose to a high of $1.4569 before pulling back slightly. Crude oil on the New York Mercantile Exchange briefly passed $97 a barrel for the first time, before settling up $2.72 at a record $96.70. Gold on the Nymex rose to another 27-year high, settling up $12.60 $823.40 an ounce. One of the most active stocks on the NYSE Tuesday was silver and gold miner Coeur d'Alene Mines Corp., which shot higher on higher metals prices and a Bear Stearns analyst's comment that the stock is underpriced. Shares climbed 52 cents, or 13.5 percent, to $4.36. Exxon Mobil Corp., one of the 30 Dow components, was another big gainer, rising $2.72, or 3.1 percent, to $90.38. Anthony Conroy, managing director at BNY ConvergEx Group, said it's a stock-picker's market. If you do your due diligence, you can make money in the markets. In earnings news, hospital operator Tenet Healthcare reported its third-quarter loss narrowed on higher charges and more admissions in commercial managed care. Tenet rose 72 cents, or 22.3 percent, to $3.95. Nortel Networks said it swung to a profit in the third quarter despite lower revenue. The Canadian telecom equipment supplier reported its best operating margin since 2004. Nortel rose $2.90, or 17.8 percent, to $19.18. Agricultural processor Archer Daniels Midland Co. said its fiscal first-quarter profit rose 9 percent as improved results at its oilseeds processing business offset higher corn prices. ADM rose $2.37, or 6.9 percent, to $36.89. Advancing issues outnumbered decliners by about 7 to 4 on the New York Stock Exchange, where volume came to 1.50 billion shares. The Russell 2000 index of smaller companies rose 11.34, or 1.43 percent, to 801.77. Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke spoke in San Antonio Tuesday afternoon, but his prepared remarks did not address monetary policy or the direction of interest rates. Investors are awaiting his scheduled testimony Thursday before Congress' Joint Economic Committee. Overseas, Japan's Nikkei stock average closed down 1.62 percent, while Hong Kong's Hang Seng index rose 1.71 percent a day after falling 5 percent. Britain's
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Analisa DE: Cuma mining yang angkat IHSG (wajarkah?)
Kalau dilihat dari tulisannya, ini yang ngomong Pak Rei? aduh belibet deh, pusing gw bacanya... Biasanya dalam penulisan email, tanda '' digunakan sebagai penanda tulisan sebelumnya / terdahulu, sehingga tulisan reply kita dituliskan tanpa tanda tersebut. Tuesday, November 6, 2007, 9:28:09 PM, tbumi wrote: t --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saham BUMI tergantung harga minyak dunia. t Kalau minyak tembus $300, maka anda bisa tambah kaya t lagi, mungkin BUMI tembus jadi 3. Jul
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Jasa Marga IPO
emang mahal. kalau pake per 14 berarti cuma 800-900 donk. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, rudd haas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: kaya nya sih bagus untuk mid term, long term TP nya kaya nyabelum ada yang bikin riset nya sebenarnya ini salah satu favorit saya, cuma ada berepa hal yang agak menganjal waktu IPO kemarin beberpa Institusi besar agak ogah2an dengan harga 1700, karena mereka estimasi nya 1100-1500, harga 1700 equal dengan PER 29, kalau di kompare dengan perusahaan sejenis di Malaysia , PER nya hanya 14 tapi saya yakin,pemerintah sudah belajar fari kegagalan BBNI dan PGAS, sampai harus mengundur schedule IPO nya cukup lama dan menaikkan dulu tarif tool, untuk mempercantik lap keuangan nya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mbah, mohon izin utk membahas topik ini bila berkenan. In case ada member OB yang punya info prospek IPO Jasa Marga, mohon di share dong: - Kebetulan ada dpt alokasi sekian lot, apakah ini saham worth di keep ? TP utk short, medium and long term brp harganya? Thanks DW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] George Soros warns of 'serious' US correction
November 6, 2007George Soros warns of 'serious' US correctionOne of the world's most influential investors has said that America is on course for a worse-than-expected downturn Marcus Leroux George Soros, the currency investor who almost single-handedly drove the pound out of the European exchange-rate mechanism on Black Wednesday, has given warning that the US is on the brink of a slowdown far more serious than the Federal Reserve is expecting. Mr Soros said that the US economy is on the verge of a very serious economic correction after decades of overspending. His opinion caused disquiet among investors and central bankers, as Mr Soros made £1 billion betting against the Bank of England in 1992. His comments came as Alan Greenspan, Ben Bernanke's predecessor as Chairman of the Federal Reserve, said that a housing downturn could drag the US economy towards a recession. Mr Soros told an audience at New York University: We have borrowed an awful lot of money and now the bill is coming to us. Asked whether a recession was inevitable, Mr Soros replied: I think we are definitely in for a slowdown that I think will be a bigger slowdown than Bernanke is seeing. Mr Bernanke has described the past few months as a challenging period. Speaking in October, he said: Conditions in financial markets have shown some improvement since the worst of the storm in mid-August, but a full recovery of market functioning is likely to take time, and we may well see some setbacks. This is the first time that Mr Soros has spoken out about America's macroeconomic state since credit markets seized to a halt after a surge in foreclosures on subprime mortgages. He said that China, the biggest US creditor, was the absolute winner and said that its economy would soar for years to come. Jim Rogers, the investor with whom Mr Soros founded his Quantum Fund in the 1970s, recently recommended that investors get out of the dollar and sell shares in investment banks and American housing companies. Mr Greenspan, whose pronouncements are scrutinised carefully by traders around the world, added his voice yesterday to the chorus of despair. He told a conference in Tokyo that high inventories of unsold housing in America presented a risk to the US economy. He said: We still need to accelerate the rate of inventory liquidation, and that will mean bringing housing starts down and sales up. We have a long way to go. Mr Greenspan added: The critical issue on the whole subprime, and by extension the whole financial system, rests very narrowly on getting rid of probably 200,000 to 300,000 excess units in inventories in the United States. Speaking in Boston last Wednesday, he gestured towards the likelihood of further crises, and the improbability of averting them. Will we have another crash? Yes. Will we have another credit crisis? Yes. Can we do anything about it? No, he said. Mr Greenspan and Mr Soros are joined by another collossus of international business in their gloomy forecasts. A fortnight ago Warren Buffett, the billionaire investor, predicted that the subprime crisis would have a long-lasting impact. He said: In the next 6 months, one year, two years the problems in the mortgage market can cause a lot of problems with consumers and hurt buying power in the United States,. But, unlike Mr Greenspan, he does not envisage the subprime fall-out precipitating a wider slowdown in the American economy. Overall the economy will make progress, he said. Mr Soros's and Mr Greenspan's pessimistic evaluations of the American economy come as Mervyn King, the Governor of the Bank of England, said in a rare broadcast interview that uncertainty over the extent of banks' losses in the subprime crisis would continue for months. In recent days Charles Prince, the chief executive of Citigroup, and Stan O'Neal, the chief executive of Merrill Lynch, have stepped down, becoming the highest-profile victims of the market turbulence. http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/economics/article2819069.\ ece
[obrolan-bandar] TBLA
kalo ngitung gaya kang ocoy pake saringan per teman-temannya, tbla udah gak lulus dari awal. ujian tahap berikutnya, PER 1/cost of capital tidak lulus juga. namun karena peserta istimewa, dengan katebelece (kate bang eka), langsung masuk valuasi. sialnya restate balance sheet gak bisa dilakukan, karena gak tau korelasi produktivitas - umur. cuma tahu mulai produksi umur 4 tahun, puncak produksi 9-13 tahun, lalu menurun dan pensiun di usia 25 tahun. pukul rata produksi tahun ke-4 sampai ke-25 sama, maka hanya tersisa 20% tanaman yang belum menghasilkan. apakah pertambahan 25% produksi berarti pertambahan 25% laba? kita anggap saja begitu. jadi eps yang 12 perak itu (menurut etrading) bertambah jadi 15 perak. kalau suatu saat lahan yang belum ditanami diolah, maka bertambah 73% lagi. jadilah epsnya 26 perak (per 24). ada yang aneh nih. dengan per yang sama (26) aali memiliki pbv 11. sementara pbv tbla masih dua koma. berarti salah di jumlah produksi ya? di korelasinya atau produktivitas (karena jenis lahan atau hal lain)? ada yang bisa bantu nerangin?
Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG BISA TEMBUS 3000 DENGAN BANTUAN SAHAM ANTM, BUMI DAN INCO.
caranya gimana pak? On Nov 6, 2007 9:46 PM, Bumi T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ANTM, BUMI dan INCO bisa membantu IHSG lebih cepat lagi tembus 3000 di akhir 2007. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] CAPITAL INFLOW?
FED memotong ratenya 50bp dan kemudian 25bp lagi akhir Oktober kemarin menyebabkan inflasi meroket. Harga minyak mentah tembus $97 per barrel juga emas melambung ke $821/oz. US$ kehilangan daya belinya, EURO mencapai nilai tertingginya thd dollar. Celakanya (untungnya) Rupiah hanya bergerak di kisaran Rp. 9000-an terhadap mata uang paman sam ini alias relatif tetap. Padahal dollar terdepresiasi sangat dalam thd mata uang lain. Kabar terakhir Hongkong terpaksa membeli US$ untuk menjaga HK$ tidak terlalu tinggi nilalnya. Jadi bila Amrik sana inflasi, bumi pertiwi ini juga turut inflasi. Akibatnya produk kita (baca:saham) menjadi terlalu murah. Tentunya mereka tidak akan membeli uang kartal kita tetapi akan mengincar uang riil yang nilai instrinsik tidak pernah berkurang alias komoditi seperti emas, perak, minyak, gas, batubara, bijih besi, CPO, karet, jagung, coklat. Silakan tunggu tanggal mainnya, CAPITAL IN FLOW Happy cuan JM
[obrolan-bandar] IPO JASA MARGA - ADA RITEL GAK DAPAT
Seorang rekan adakan YM dengan saya. Kebetulan saya juga baru kenal. Dia komplain sekaligus tanya, kalau dia pesan IPO JASA MARGA lewat Mandiri Sekuritas. Beberapa hari yang lalu, dia dikabari kalau TIDAK DAPAT 1 lembarpun. Padahal pesanpun gak banyak, cuma beberapa ratus lot. Terlepas dari masalah lain, Kita semua tahu kalau banyak SEKURITAS yang CURANG. Seringkali jatah RITEL di MAKAN sendiri. Saya banyak menemui komplain seperti itu, dan banyak TRIK sekuritas. waktu IPO WIKA, - Ada sekuritas yang mengharuskan bayar penuh didepan seminggu sebelum masa pembelian. - Ada sekuritas yg membolehkan bayar 1/2 dari pesanan. - Ada sekuritas yg mengenakan charge sampai 1% dari pemesanan, tapi bayar dibelakang. Ya, begitulah INDONESIA. Salam JACK __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Re : ANTM Sell by LG
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Biasalah maling teriak maling dalam keadaan ini. Nanti market yang membuktikan analisa siapa yg benar. Ada pihak yg ingin barang murah, tapi masih belum bisa dapat barang murah. Sehingga bikin news yg pesimis saja. Dalam investasi, pemodal harus selalu optimis. Hanya doa yg optimis pasti dikabuli TUHAN. Pak Sulistyo, bukannya anda sdh memutuskan hal ini waktu beli? dibeli, buat warisan anak2 kalo udah gede aja...nah kalo sdh gitu, nggak usah pusing pak dgn rekomendasi dan berita ini itu yg tujuan utamanya adalah hanya utk mendistorsi pikiran para trader (seems to be working in your case as you doubted again your decision). Mesti sabar pak dalam hal investasi saham, ingat postingan pak DE mengenai bagaimana cuan 100%...baru2 ini. Kalo saham blue chip apalagi pertambangan di hold minimum 3 thn akan memberikan return yg sangat bagus. Ingat saja, teruslah tambah posisi antm anda sedikit demi sedikit layaknya membangun bisnis atau fondasi yg kuat. Ingat, ini bukan utk anda tapi utk ANAK2 anda jadi hitung2 nabung buat mereka (jadi nantinya kita nggak usah keriting mikirin uang edukasi buat mereka apalagi kalo mereka bilang, Pa, teman2 semua ke US lho...saya IKUT!. Nah, niscaya nantinya anda tinggal bilang, No problem!!! So...sekali beli nggak usah ragu utk menyimpan antm (aduh, saya mesti minta komisi nih dari antam ). It takes patience time to achieve great wealth. Kecuali mau trading harian...mending ke Genting aja pak lebih seru sulistyo_winarto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Sobat2 OB, Soal ANTM punya aku gimana nehh ? dibeli, buat warisan anak2 kalo udah gede aja. Ini cuplikan dari luar dalam soal ANTM Aneka Tambang Tbk PT ANTM.JK (Jakarta) Sector: Basic Materials Industry: Gold Silver View ANTM.JK on other exchanges As of 4:00 AM EST Rp.3,675IDR Price Change 125.00 Percent Change 3.52% Profile Report Consensus Recommendation Company Fiscal Year End Month Last Updated HOLD December Monday, November 05, 2007 Analyst Recommendations and Revisions 1-5 Linear ScaleCurrent 1 Month Ago 2 Months Ago 1 Year Ago BUY (1) 2 2 3 1 OUTPERFORM (2) 2 2 1 0 HOLD (3) 3 3 3 7 UNDERPERFORM (4)2 1 1 0 SELL (5) 3 3 4 1 No Opinion 0 0 0 0 3.18 3.09 3.17 3.00 NB : semakin besar nilai rekomendasi, maka semakin kurang disukai ANTM Kesulitan Jadi Perusahaan Kelas Dunia Posted November 2nd, 2007 by Redaksi o Berita o detik Finance Perusahaan pelat merah, PT Aneka Tambang Tbk (Antam) mengaku sulit berkembang menjadi perusahaan kelas dunia seperti Companhia Vale do Rio Doce (CVRD) dengan kondisi seperti sekarang. Dirut Antam D Aditya Sumanegara menjelaskannya dalam diskusi pertambangan yang digelar di Graha Niaga, Jakarta, Jumat (2/11/2007). Berita selengkapnya bisa dilihat di detik Finance --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, gmail-doekoen.jamoe doekoen.jamoe@ wrote: Quote from Klubsaham.com Aneka Tambang, Riding On Metal Prices (ANTM.JK/ANTM IJ - Rp3,550) - SELL (under review) Result ANTM posted 9M07 revenues of Rp8.3tr or up by 143.1% YoY buoyed by strong metal prices and higher sales volume of high-grade nickel ores. Higher prices guarded costs that have been hiking throughout the year. [size=18][b] DISINI SI ANALIS TIDAK LIHAT REPORT PENGELUARAN BULANAN ANTM, DIA HANYA MENGUTARAKAN PENDAPAT PRIBADI.[/b][/size] As a result, ANTM registered robust gross profit and operating profit growth by 262.0% and 289.7%, respectively. Joint with higher dividend income, net interest income as well as a one-off item amounted Rp86bn, the company's strong operation performance lifted net profit by 373.7% YoY to Rp3.8tr. Sales volume of high-grade nickel ores, gold, and silver advanced by 126%, 83%, and 18% YoY to 5.0m wet metric ton (wmt), 3.7ton, and 18.9ton, respectively, compensating lower sales volume of low-grade nickel ores, bauxite, and ferronickel that dropped 62%, 23%, and 4% to 0.2mn wmt, 0.8mn wmt, and 9,279 ton. QoQ basis, ANTM booked 3Q07 revenues, gross profit, operating profit, and net profit of Rp2.3tr (-37.8% QoQ), Rp1.4tr (-48.1% QoQ), Rp1.2tr (-51.5% QoQ), and [b]Rp958.1bn [/b](-46.8% QoQ). Stock Data PERHATIKAN ANGKA-ANGKA AJAIB BERIKUT INI, ANGKA-ANGKA INI KELUAR TANPA ADA HUBUNGANNYA DENGAN ANGKA-ANGKA YANG DISAMPAIKAN DIATAS! Target Price: Rp2,720 angka ajaib !!! P/E (x): 7.8 angka lebih ajaib !!! KENAPA CUMAN 7.8? APA NGAK TERLALU BESAR? KENAPA TIDAK 6.18? ATAU 5.5? ATAU 4.3? ATAU.1 (satu) ? P/BV (x): 3.8 Div. Yield (%): 7.0 Comment High metal prices has been the driving factor for stellar 9M07 performance, bringing ANTM sets of record performances from top line (exceeding US$900m) to bottom line (exceeding US$400m). However, cost concerns will be the next crucial theme going into 4Q07 and onwards as oil price
[obrolan-bandar] Re: RAUP TRILIUNAN DGN IPO
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Jack Cowok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bagaimana dengan pabik kondom kami. Tentu IPO ini sangat disukai oleh laki dan wanita juga. Sekarang inilah saatnya bagi anda2 yang punya perusahaan untuk Go Public dan meraup rupiah TRILIUNAN dengan murah dan mudah. Mumpung ijinnya mudah. IPO sekarang sudah tidak RASIONAL. Nilainya sudah gila-gila an. Coba bandingkan nilai rupiah yg di raup antara IPO nya ALIBABA atau PETROCHINA dengan ACE HARDWARE dll yang akan segera IPO. Saya juga rencana mengajukan IPO untuk perusahaan saya. PABRIK KENTANG GORENG. BELI YA!! Salam JACK __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] Gold Reaches 27-Year High on Dollar, Oil Records; Silver Gains
Gold Reaches 27-Year High on Dollar, Oil Records; Silver Gains By Pham-Duy Nguyen Nov. 6 (Bloomberg) -- Gold rose to the highest since 1980 as record oil prices and a slumping dollar increased concern that inflation will accelerate. Silver jumped to the highest in 26 years. Oil surged as high as $97 a barrel in New York and the dollar extended its slide to the lowest ever against the euro, boosting the appeal of precious metals as an inflation hedge. Investment in the StreetTracks Gold Trust, an exchange-traded fund backed by bullion, has risen 32 percent this year to a record 598 metric tons. ``This gold market is up, up and away,'' said Ron Goodis, futures trading director at Equidex Brokerage Group Inc. in Closter, New Jersey. ``The dollar is going to keep skidding. We don't know if it's going to be a recession, inflation, stagflation. People want to buy gold.'' Gold futures for December delivery rose $14, or 1.7 percent, to $824.80 an ounce at 10:42 a.m. on the Comex division of the New York Mercantile Exchange. The price earlier climbed to $826.40, the highest for a most-active contract since Jan. 21, 1980, the day gold reached a record $873. Gold has rallied 29 percent this year and is heading for the seventh straight annual gain. Silver futures for December delivery rose 56.5 cents, or 3.8 percent, to $15.35 an ounce, after earlier reaching $15.405, the highest price for a most-active contract since Jan. 21, 1981. Before today, the metal climbed 14 percent this year. Weakening Dollar The dollar fell to $1.457 against the euro, the lowest ever, on speculation losses related to U.S. subprime-mortgage defaults will prompt the Federal Reserve to reduce interest rates for a third time this year. Gold gained 23 percent last year when the dollar dropped 10 percent against the euro. The dollar is down 9.3 percent against the euro in 2007 and has fallen 3.9 percent since Sept. 18, when the Fed lowered the overnight lending rate for the first time in four years. The Fed cut rates again by 0.25 percentage point to 4.5 percent on Oct. 31. Five of the past six bear markets for the U.S. currency have resulted in a gold rally. Interest-rate futures indicate investors believe there is a 62 percent chance the Fed will lower rates to 4.25 percent by Dec. 11, compared with a 6 percent chance a month ago. ``Everyone should keep accumulating gold and selling dollars,'' said James Turk, founder of GoldMoney.com, which had $237 million of gold and silver in storage for investors at the end of October. $1,000 Prediction Turk expects gold to breach $1,000 in 2008. He correctly predicted last year gold would rise above $800 in 2007. ``Gold remains cheap and the dollar is still way overvalued,'' he said. UBS AG today raised its one-month forecast to $850 from $700. ``With the two external drivers of gold -- a weak U.S. dollar and strong oil -- together conspiring to lift the metal higher, we are now in range of a move to the all-time nominal high of $850,'' said UBS AG analyst John Reade. Gold for immediate delivery in London rose $16.22, or 2 percent, to $822.72. The spot price has averaged $677.64 this year. Crude-oil futures traded higher on concern demand will outpace supply. Gold reached its record in January 1980 after oil costs doubled in a year, sparking a surge in the inflation rate. To contact the reporter on this story: Pham-Duy Nguyen in Seattle at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Last Updated: November 6, 2007 10:53 EST __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Gold Reaches 27-Year High on Dollar, Oil Records; Silver Gains
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Joe Grunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ANTM kan kebagian rezeki nanti. Kalau begitu boleh serbu ANTM nanti !! Gold Reaches 27-Year High on Dollar, Oil Records; Silver Gains By Pham-Duy Nguyen Nov. 6 (Bloomberg) -- Gold rose to the highest since 1980 as record oil prices and a slumping dollar increased concern that inflation will accelerate. Silver jumped to the highest in 26 years. Oil surged as high as $97 a barrel in New York and the dollar extended its slide to the lowest ever against the euro, boosting the appeal of precious metals as an inflation hedge. Investment in the StreetTracks Gold Trust, an exchange-traded fund backed by bullion, has risen 32 percent this year to a record 598 metric tons. ``This gold market is up, up and away,'' said Ron Goodis, futures trading director at Equidex Brokerage Group Inc. in Closter, New Jersey. ``The dollar is going to keep skidding. We don't know if it's going to be a recession, inflation, stagflation. People want to buy gold.'' Gold futures for December delivery rose $14, or 1.7 percent, to $824.80 an ounce at 10:42 a.m. on the Comex division of the New York Mercantile Exchange. The price earlier climbed to $826.40, the highest for a most-active contract since Jan. 21, 1980, the day gold reached a record $873. Gold has rallied 29 percent this year and is heading for the seventh straight annual gain. Silver futures for December delivery rose 56.5 cents, or 3.8 percent, to $15.35 an ounce, after earlier reaching $15.405, the highest price for a most-active contract since Jan. 21, 1981. Before today, the metal climbed 14 percent this year. Weakening Dollar The dollar fell to $1.457 against the euro, the lowest ever, on speculation losses related to U.S. subprime-mortgage defaults will prompt the Federal Reserve to reduce interest rates for a third time this year. Gold gained 23 percent last year when the dollar dropped 10 percent against the euro. The dollar is down 9.3 percent against the euro in 2007 and has fallen 3.9 percent since Sept. 18, when the Fed lowered the overnight lending rate for the first time in four years. The Fed cut rates again by 0.25 percentage point to 4.5 percent on Oct. 31. Five of the past six bear markets for the U.S. currency have resulted in a gold rally. Interest-rate futures indicate investors believe there is a 62 percent chance the Fed will lower rates to 4.25 percent by Dec. 11, compared with a 6 percent chance a month ago. ``Everyone should keep accumulating gold and selling dollars,'' said James Turk, founder of GoldMoney.com, which had $237 million of gold and silver in storage for investors at the end of October. $1,000 Prediction Turk expects gold to breach $1,000 in 2008. He correctly predicted last year gold would rise above $800 in 2007. ``Gold remains cheap and the dollar is still way overvalued,'' he said. UBS AG today raised its one-month forecast to $850 from $700. ``With the two external drivers of gold -- a weak U.S. dollar and strong oil -- together conspiring to lift the metal higher, we are now in range of a move to the all-time nominal high of $850,'' said UBS AG analyst John Reade. Gold for immediate delivery in London rose $16.22, or 2 percent, to $822.72. The spot price has averaged $677.64 this year. Crude-oil futures traded higher on concern demand will outpace supply. Gold reached its record in January 1980 after oil costs doubled in a year, sparking a surge in the inflation rate. To contact the reporter on this story: Pham-Duy Nguyen in Seattle at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Last Updated: November 6, 2007 10:53 EST __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Analisa DE: Cuma mining yang angkat IHSG (wajarkah?)
Ini tulisan pak tbumi pak atas jawaban pertanyaan saya ke Mbah. Memang pak tbumi agak membingungkan dalam penggunaan kolom dalam menjawab pertanyaan member milis...yah tapi masih ok kok. julyanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kalau dilihat dari tulisannya, ini yang ngomong Pak Rei? aduh belibet deh, pusing gw bacanya... Biasanya dalam penulisan email, tanda '' digunakan sebagai penanda tulisan sebelumnya / terdahulu, sehingga tulisan reply kita dituliskan tanpa tanda tersebut. Tuesday, November 6, 2007, 9:28:09 PM, tbumi wrote: t --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saham BUMI tergantung harga minyak dunia. t Kalau minyak tembus $300, maka anda bisa tambah kaya t lagi, mungkin BUMI tembus jadi 3. Jul __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] TIGA FAKTOR YANG MENDORONG IHSG BISA TEMBUS 3000 DI 2007.
Menurut analisa kami, ada 3 faktor yang bisa membuat IHSG bisa tembus 3000 : - Penurunaan bunga The FED. Bunga deposito yg tidak menarik lagi membuat fund manager dan deposan memindahkan sebagian dana deposito ke bursa Saham. - Ekonomi Indonesia yang tidak berkembang membuat daya beli konsumen menurun. Pebisnis tidak mau lagi memperlebar usaha mereka lagi. Mulai dari pengusaha sampai pedagang pedagang memindahkan sebagian dana bisnis mereka ke bursa saham. - Pertumbuhan ekonomi di China dan India yg meroket membuat permintaan energi dan pertambangan ikut meroket. Jadi emiten pertambangan di Indonesia juga kebagian rezeki. Ini terbukti kenaikan saham pertambangan yg luar biasa disaat ini. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] IPO JASA MARGA - ADA RITEL GAK DAPAT
Di OD, boleh pesan sampai 5X NAV nasabah, tanpa setor sepeserpun. Tapi ya itu, fee-nya 1%. Dapetnya juga cuma sekitar 1% dari pesanan. Buat short term, anggap aja capital gain dari IPO itu seperti bonus dari sekuritas aja atas kesetiaan nasabah. On 11/7/07, Jack Cowok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seorang rekan adakan YM dengan saya. Kebetulan saya juga baru kenal. Dia komplain sekaligus tanya, kalau dia pesan IPO JASA MARGA lewat Mandiri Sekuritas. Beberapa hari yang lalu, dia dikabari kalau TIDAK DAPAT 1 lembarpun. Padahal pesanpun gak banyak, cuma beberapa ratus lot. Terlepas dari masalah lain, Kita semua tahu kalau banyak SEKURITAS yang CURANG. Seringkali jatah RITEL di MAKAN sendiri. Saya banyak menemui komplain seperti itu, dan banyak TRIK sekuritas. waktu IPO WIKA, - Ada sekuritas yang mengharuskan bayar penuh didepan seminggu sebelum masa pembelian. - Ada sekuritas yg membolehkan bayar 1/2 dari pesanan. - Ada sekuritas yg mengenakan charge sampai 1% dari pemesanan, tapi bayar dibelakang. Ya, begitulah INDONESIA. Salam JACK __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Analisa DE: Cuma mining yang angkat IHSG (wajarkah?)
Percaya gak percaya.. Sebentar lagi ada yang reply nawarin ANTM nih... heheh... mining senyangkut nyangkutnya bisa dipegang long term. Regards, DE On Nov 7, 2007 8:41 AM, Bandar A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Between 1970 and 1982, oil prices went from $1.35 a barrel to a high of nearly $35. That is a 26-fold increase. To match that experience this decade, the price of oil would have to reach $260 a barrel. In 1970s, the oil crisis was primarily political. This time around, the issue is ceiling on supply - a more difficult problem to solve. Breaking the ceiling of oil supply for energy source can be done through the following: 1. coal, the dirtiest of all fossil fuel 2. nuclear/uranium, which is a resource in far shorter than oil 3. natural gas and exotic fossil fuel, 4. biofuels 5. alternative energy (wind, solar, sea current, etc) None of the energies available will single handedly be able to satisfy the worlds growing energy needs. The inability of energy supplies to meet soaring demand and the wave of inflation that will result, is a serious threat. Unable to fight inflation without risking economic meltdown, policy makers will put all their efforts into keeping the economy growing, so that wage rise faster than interest rates and debt does not overwhelm the average citizen. They will have no option but to allow inflation to reach heights that would have been considered unacceptable in any previous decade. Inflation will lifts the prices of homes and other assests and will diminish the weight of debt underlying those assets. To make money when inflation soars, avoid these investment pitfalls: 1. Cash 2. Bonds 3. Stocks, especially defensive groups (cosmetic, food, retail), airlines, autos, chemicals 4. small cap stocks And chose these investment jackpots 1. Gold and gold shares. I believe natural resources (mining and agri) also included here 2. Oil and oil shares. And i believe any energy related shares, such as oil services company, energy mining and alternative energy company 3. real estate 4. China and India Thats the summary from Stephen Leeb's 2006 book, the coming economic collapse, how you can thrive when oil cost $200 a barrel. he's the author of the oil factor, which published in february 2004. at the moment, oil price was under $33 a barrel and he predicted that soaring oil prices above $100 was around the corner. On 11/6/07, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ingat presiden kita jatoh karena minyak naek (minyak masih jauh dibawah $100). Kalo minyak $300, bukan cuman presidennya yg jatoh, langit juga jatuh NIMPA KITA karena akan ada REVOLUSI SOSIAL. Boro boro you bisa kaya, masih bisa idup selamet aja udah untung --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, tbumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Rei highwaystar91@ wrote: Saham BUMI tergantung harga minyak dunia. Kalau minyak tembus $300, maka anda bisa tambah kaya lagi, mungkin BUMI tembus jadi 3.
