Re: [ob] masih ada kesempatan beli ADMF ...akan mentok hampir 8000

2009-04-29 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Artinya, buat yg uda punya mending di kekep aja,
 atau dilepas dan switch yg lg lari kenceng ??





From: Andre Andre andre...@yahoo.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 4:14:04 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] masih ada kesempatan beli ADMF ...akan mentok hampir 8000





yes bener skali ehehehhe

GBU all





From: HL hutanle...@gmail. com
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 4:05:05 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] masih ada kesempatan beli ADMF ...akan mentok hampir 8000


Yg jadi harapan buat retail adalah BDMN akan beli dari market sekitar 2% total 
saham yg diterbitkan.

Seperti sudah di ketahui, saham beredar yg ada di market cuma sisa 7,47%. jadi 
kalo mau beli sekitar 2% saham yg diterbitkan dari market, berarti coba beli 
sekitar 30% lebih dari saham retail.

Bener ga yah itungannya ???


2009/4/29 Greg Hadiwinata ghadiwinata@ gmail.com




Gak ada TOnya pak... belinya jg ktnya dgn exercise call option. Ada yg tau 
option strike price harga brp?


--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, toto aja tototj...@.. . wrote:

 wah admf-nya baru sampe 5000 udah melorot tuh :)
 
 
 On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:01 AM, M Herman hermanlatief@ ... wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 








  

Re: [ob] BNBR TP 5000 DEC To. EL, How???...

2009-04-23 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
EL :
5 Lots x IDR 80/shr x 1,000 = IDR 200,000,000

BUT, U mentioned that gonna be IDR 1,000,000,000, at End of Dec 09.
It means  5x gains, Rite ?

Is this still CONFIRM ?, Pls be clear 





From: Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 1:26:09 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] BNBR TP 5000 DEC To. EL, How???...





I said 5 lots, 1000 participants, donate to Embah before christmas. But ppl get 
greedy and leverage it like 1 times. I NEVER SAID it's going to be 5000. 
omg why theres so many distorted information circling around

Elaine


2009/4/23 Gunawan Samin alwin_supriatna@ yahoo.com





skrg bln Apr masih ada 8 bulan lagi saham 50 bisa ke 5000? 1 bulan mesti naik 
brp yahhh

ane tetep buy 5 lot sumbangsi to participate EL buat christmas :) 

Salam cuan





--- On Thu, 4/23/09, poetra poetra...@yahoo. com wrote:


From: poetra poetra...@yahoo. com
Subject: Re: [ob] EL, mau buy or sell BNBR ???...
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, April 23, 2009, 3:55 AM


Kemaren gorengnya kematengan, jd gosong deh. 

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Aria Bela Nusa ariab...@.. . wrote:

 Wah,'ndak ada perlawananan2, 'tuh - kayaknya (broker sold  broker buyer)
 
 
  yg top sell skrg mah si YU, udah 1 jt lot.
  but anyway i'm already jump in.. ikut sumbang mbah
 
 
 


 







  

Re: [ob] Watch BUMI resources == EL ada yg NANTANG tuh

2009-04-23 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
I'm sure, EL won't be back off, will u ?

Mbah  JT jadi wasitnya ...




From: Vernichtung gambler@gmail.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 9:39:45 AM
Subject: Re: [ob] Watch BUMI resources.





Hey Elaine, let's play tug of war if BNBR can reach 400 (or more) by 31 Dec 
2009 I'll give you IDR 1 billion but if it didn't you have to give me IDR 1 
billion. 

Hey you can donate half of it to mbah if you win. Is it a deal?




On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 9:30 AM, jimmy jdars...@gmail. com wrote:



bnbr already awesome yesterday :)








  

Re: [ob] To pak JT -- BNBR - PGAS

2009-04-22 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Jadi sudah gak punya utang ya?, tinggal ke di tarik keatas Prof ? 



From: JsxTrader jsxtra...@yahoo.comTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 2:28:28 PMSubject: RE: [ob] To pak JT -- BNBR - PGAS



Hehehe…. PERCAYA NGGA PERCAYA…, gap ditutup…., BD edan.. !!

JT





From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of JsxTraderSent: 22 April 2009 13:12To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comSubject: RE: [ob] To pak JT -- BNBR - PGAS


kalau test gap trus mental BUY lah.., J 

well…, ini chart intraday 15 menit.., dalam chart intraday gap sering sekali terjadi…, meskipun teori gap tidak hanya berlaku di daily chart tapi juga di intraday, namun tentunya kalau di intraday technical significance- nya tidak seperti di daily…, jadi belum tentu di tutup lah, apalagi gapnya kelihatan break away gap…, jadi tenang aja lah…, anda investor toh ? J 

JT



From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of Huan ShengSent: 22 April 2009 12:46To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comSubject: Re: [ob] To pak JT -- BNBR - PGAS



Kalo ternyata balik nutup gap dulu Pak JT,sebelum terbang tinggi ?






- Original Message - 

From: JsxTrader 

To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 

Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:35 PM

Subject: RE: [ob] To pak JT -- BNBR - PGAS




Chart nya..., moga-moga ngga tembus support.

-Original Message-From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. ...com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of JsxTraderSent: 22 April 2009 12:30To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. ..comSubject: RE: [ob] To pak JT -- BNBR - PGAS
BNBR buat midterm lah.., saya kemarin juga beli segepok.., buat simpen.
Chartnya memang ada signal koreksi.., support 87.., semoga mantul disitu.
PGAS tinggal tunggu trigger.., watch very closely..., ini barang kalau jalan
juga gokil..., wushhh.. hehe
JT
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On Behalf Of Victor-milis
Sent: 22 April 2009 11:38
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [ob] To pak JT -- BNBR - PGAS
Kalau BNBR bagaimana pak?
Kalau saya lihat PGAS setengah hari, hrsnya volume bisa tembus ya pak nanti
sore
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Re: URGENT dari EMBAH Re: [ob] To pak JT -- BNBR - PGAS

2009-04-22 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Menurut saya, seharusnya EMBAH punya no HP senior2 OB ring-1 (Prof, P.Arto dkk) 
, sehingga kalau di hack atau sabotase, komunikasi masih tetap lancar. Dan 
senior2 OB ring-1 bisa communicate di millis.

I LOVE EMBAH





From: jimmy jdars...@gmail.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:47:18 PM
Subject: Re: URGENT dari EMBAH Re: [ob] To pak JT -- BNBR - PGAS





hati2 hacker bisa deface website dan juga mengirim email atas nama seseorang 
seperti aslinya.
mbah? apakah benar itu tulisan anda?

thanks.




2009/4/22 JoLind jems...@yahoo. co.id




Koq bs email nya mbah di blok ke milis ya.??? Apa ini sabotase dari BD??
 
Regards,
JoLind
 




  

Re: [ob] bozz akan contrarian lagi kah? == BOZZ baik hati

2009-04-20 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Hari ini BOZZ berbaik hati memberikan BIG oppurtunity, buat yg belum ikut 
gerbong AB.

DO NOT MISS IT !!





From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:43:35 AM
Subject: [ob] bozz akan contrarian lagi kah?





dear obers,

market regional merah.

apakah BOZZ akan contrarian lagi, seperti kemaren.?

let see sajalah.

note: 

elaine kalo nanti roadshow dan ketemu sama Lloyd C. Blankfein dan Robert 
E.Diamond, Jr., sampaikan salam dari arto yaa (sok kenal nih saya)





  

Re: [ob] BUMI - Hati2 Reject Bawah

2009-04-20 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Alasannya apa ya, bisa share ?
Kalo cuman feeling, kasihan Nubie, ntar kehilangan barang...





From: Jack Cowok jackcow...@yahoo.com
To: sa...@yahoogroups.com
Cc: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 11:05:40 AM
Subject: [ob] BUMI - Hati2 Reject Bawah





Just sharing for all of you.

Play carefully.


Salam
JACK
 




  

[ob] WELCOME WAVE-2

2009-04-16 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
BOZZ sdh memenuhi chart Mbah
Welcome WAVE2 ...

MBAH EMANG SAKTI EUY !


  

Re: [ob] high ihsg 1659 == what's next step General ??

2009-04-16 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
So, selanjutnya gimana Jend ? 
Mo rehat sejenak, sambil ngumpulin tenaga ?



From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id
To: ob obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 11:23:38 AM
Subject: [ob] high ihsg 1659.





 ihsg  high hari ini 1659. beda dikit dari target saya 1660.

anggap dah tercapai.





thanks GOD.




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[ob] ELSA : Apakah akan Tender Offer ??

2009-04-15 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Apakah ELSA wajib Tender Offer, kalo pelepasan saham jadi terlaksana ? Pls 
share ...
 
  

PELEPASAN SAHAM ELSAKepemilikan Saham ELSA Bakal Berpindah Tangan
JAKARTA. Kepemilikan PT Elnusa Tbk (ELSA) akan berpindah tangan. Salah satu 
pemegang saham ELSA, PT Tri Daya Esta kabarnya akan menjual saham Elnusa. Tri 
Daya Esta adalah pemilik 37,15% atau 2,71 miliar saham Elnusa.
Setidaknya sudah ada tiga perusahaan nasional dan asing yang berminat 
mengajukan penawaran untuk membeli saham ELSA milik Tri Daya. Sumber KONTAN 
membisikkan, ketiga perusahaan yang akan menyodorkan penawaran ke Tri Daya 
adalah PT Pertamina, Northstar Pacific, serta Petronas.
Kata sumber itu, Tri Daya berencana melepas saham ELSA pada harga premium. 
Konon, harga penawaran mereka sekitar dua kali dari nilai buku ELSA. Saat ini 
nilai buku ELSA sebesar Rp 221 per saham. Maka, harga penawaran Tri Daya 
mencapai Rp 442 per saham. Artinya, Tri Daya akan menjual 37,15% saham ELSA 
senilai Rp 1,2 triliun.
Pertamina mengaku sudah mendapat penawaran dari Tri Daya. Kami saat ini sedang 
mempertimbangkan penawaran tersebut, kata Vice President Communications 
Pertamina Anang Rizkani Noor kepada KONTAN, kemarin (15/4).
Kata Anang, saat ini Pertamina telah memiliki 41,10% atau 3 miliar saham ELSA. 
Namun melihat prospek bisnis Elnusa yang termasuk bagus, menambah kepemilikan 
saham ELSA bisa membawa keuntungan ekstra buat Pertamina. Apalagi ELSA 
merupakan anak perusahaan Pertamina yang dulu pernah kami kuasai penuh, 
ujarnya.





From: vaulst...@yahoo.com vaulst...@yahoo.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 8:58:50 AM
Subject: Re: [ob] Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kemana IHSG mengarah..? Mission 
Accomplished





Yes one more day.. I like that..


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From: Boys n Girls 
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 03:29:39 +0700
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [ob] Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kemana IHSG mengarah..? Mission 
Accomplished

Ngikutin pompa gorengan dari 1400 aja puas 

bener-bener HIGH CLASS PRIMARY BEAR RALLY..
gak ada matinye..

ha.ha..

anyway...DJI not bad today+100 signal nothing, tin  nickel keep strong 
just another day of wild money making :D

one more days guys 
enjoy




2009/4/15 Elaine Sui elainesui83@ gmail.com




What does WTA tell you? I want to see how effective your tool is. Embah seems 
to like it very much.

Elaine


On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 9:23 PM, billybudiman20 billybudiman20@ yahoo.com 
wrote:

So EL, how long we can go ? 1,800 or just 1,650.

GBU Always and ini sudah terbukti, Luar biasa ternyata OB isinya master saham 
yang mantab.



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Re: [ob] Re: mengenai: http://www.investdata.net

2009-04-10 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Mbah, Hope all the best 4 U.





From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 3:52:19 PM
Subject: [ob] Re: mengenai: http://www.investdata.net





- Kedepan sudah tidak dipassword.
- Laporan terakhir kwartal 4 sudah tidak dipassword (warna hijau)

K: masuk dalam index Kompas 100
I: masuk dalam index JII
i: Belum digunakan

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Mico Wendy micowe...@. .. wrote:

 dear all/ admin...
 ada info mengenai akses ke beberapa data yang ada di investdata.net?
 ada sebagian data kelihatannya di password. apakah harus member? atau
 datanya memang utk konsumsi internal?
 
 terus ada beberapa kode di belakang kode saham, itu artinya apa ya?
 contoh:
 ISAT http://www.investda ta.net/QUISAT. TXT K J
 ihttp://www.investda ta.net/private/ isat_clip. html
 
 terima kasih sebelumnya.. .
 
 
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 m...@ yahoo: micowendy, icq: 1384769, msn: micowendy
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PILIH SESUAI HATI NURANI....Re: [ob] Re: Pion benteng BUMI mulai beraksi/Contreng=free starbucks

2009-04-08 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
PILIH SESUAI HATI NURANI ...
APAPUN PARTAINYA YG PENTING IKUTAN CONTRENG

JANGAN GOLPUT
GOLPUT = GOLONGAN LUPUT (TIDAK BERTANGGUNG JAWAB)





From: Kevin Hogan kvn...@gmail.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2009 8:32:02 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] Re: Pion benteng BUMI mulai beraksi/Contreng=free starbucks


Demokrat menang, hari Senin BUMI A/R kanan.. Sip


2009/4/8 918 boysngi...@gmail. com




Memang 

For fun aja..

Ha ha
Sent from my DemokratBerry® smartphone from 31's naik terusss

From: jku...@yahoo. com
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 12:58:06 + 

To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [ob] Re: Pion benteng BUMI mulai beraksi/Contreng= free starbucks

Demokrat = bumi naik?
Kalo begitu, hidup DEMOKRAT!

He he ada2 aja...


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From: 918 
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 12:50:49 +
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [ob] Re: Pion benteng BUMI mulai beraksi/Contreng= free starbucks

Tadinya mau golput

Bumi naik mau milih

Dikasih starbuck.. Pilih 31

DEMOKRAT.. LANJUTKAN..

Tarek
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From: sylar_fang 
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 12:48:23 -
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [ob] Re: Pion benteng BUMI mulai beraksi/Contreng= free starbucks


Jangan lupa abis contreng mampir ke starbucks terdekat ... get free 1 hot/iced 
coffee by showing ur finger print ... 

note: harus na starbucks buka stand ya di smua TPS :) ... hehehe ...

:)

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, 918 boysngi...@. .. wrote:

 No choice
 
 Contreng demokrat.. Jangan coblos
 
 Coblos aja istri anda...
 Kalau pacar jangan dulu.
 
 Bung ydizz dan hendrik harap bersabar ya
 
 918
 Sent from my DemokratBerry® smartphone from 31's naik terusss
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JsxTrader™ jsxtra...@.. .
 
 Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:37:55 
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Subject: Re: [ob] Re: Pion benteng BUMI mulai beraksi
 
 
 Demokrat lah..., Strong Buy !!
 
 Powered by TLKM BullBerry®
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Petualang Saham petualang.saham@ ...
 
 Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 11:12:41 
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Subject: [ob] Re: Pion benteng BUMI mulai beraksi
 
 
 Cakep apanya boss??..
 
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, JsxTraderâ„¢ jsxtrader@ wrote:
 
  Demokrat?? Cakep !!
  
  JT
  Powered by TLKM BullBerry®
  
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  From: fifi young fifiyoung03@
  
  Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:16:25 
  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
  Subject: Re: [ob] Re: Pion benteng BUMI mulai beraksi
  
  
  YES...!
  Mbah memang paling HEBAT...!
  Jangan lupa besok nyoblos...
  DEMOKRAT...!
  
  
  2009/4/8 Rei highwaystar91@
  
   Kabar baik Mbah...berarti bozz kira2 sdh tahu hasil akhor pemilu atau
   setidak2nya hasil akan sesuai ekspektasi makanya berani nambah uang. Siip
   lah! Thank you.
  
   2009/4/8 jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@
  
   BUMI OFFER 950 lagi dihabisin , ini baru INFLOW ke BEI
   meskipun IHSG -21...
  
   Ini menunjukan commitment Bozz untuk menambah dana di BEI meksipun
   BBRI -9%
  
   --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups. 
   com,
   jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ wrote:
   
Pion benteng BUMI mulai beraksi
   
   
Perkiraan embah bahwa ada 2 pion benteng yaitu TLKM dan BUMI mulai
terlihat:
- BUMI mulai BERAKSI +2,7% disaat IHSG -22
   
Ternyata advis embah didenger Bozz... hehehe...
   
  
  
   
  
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [ob] Jgn lupa contreng

2009-04-08 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
pilih yg terbaik menurut anda...
jika ternyata pilihan anda ternyata nyeleweng, maka anda telah berbuat 
1 kebaikan, krn anda telah mencoba yg terbaik.
Jika pilIhan anda orangnya OK, maka anda telah berbuat 2 kebaikan.

JANGAN GOLPUT !!!




From: tjetjun asias...@medancity.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2009 9:26:31 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] Jgn lupa contreng


ah, pusing. mau pilih atau ngak. sangsi ikut nambah dosa kalau yang kita pilih 
untuk duduk di dpr malah tukang ngumpul duit ngak halal.
Dosa atau ngak sih ya ? dosa dia atau dosa kita yang pilih ? :(

salam

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, PyRiEL PyRiEL pyriel.pyriel@ ... 
wrote:

 Tidak memilih juga pilihan lho..
 
 2009/4/8 Kidod25 kido...@... 
 
 
 
  Pojok kanan atas he he
 
  
 






  

[ob] Is it time to quit ??

2009-04-07 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Is it time to CL and wait the bottom of wave-2 ??


  

Re: [ob] Billy Special: BBCA

2009-03-26 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Dengan logika yg sama, ntar besok Jum'at kuda hitam cukup bergerak 1 langkah 
saja, atau malah cukup berputar2 di seputar benteng. Sementara pasukan darat 
akan merayap kedepan, dan infatri akan menyusup2 dan tiba2 sudah nongol di 
tempat yg jauh.

-Bukan anak militer-




From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 3:17:26 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] Billy Special: BBCA


Kemarin itu pasar LAGI NERVOUS, market lagi takut koreksi...
Jadi logikanya: Kuda hitam harus maju kedepan supaya market
engga panik...

TAPI sebaliknya jika pasukan induk MAU MENYERANG KEDEPAN,
pasukan bendera sebaiknya disuruh mundur untuk MENGECOH
LAWAN

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wrote:

 jadi dgn kata lain,
 prediksi utk test support disaat index turun agak sulit diterima
 mengingat peran bbca sbg balancer agar pasar tetap terlihat menarik?
 
 boleh ambil kesimpulan begitu ndak?
 
 
 --pta
 
 
 2009/3/26 jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ...:
  Re: [ob] Billy Special: BBCA
 
 
  Apanya yg engga ngerti ?.
 
  Note:
  Kuda Hitam itu mirip pasukan pembawa bendera didalam
  perang jaman kuno/romawi.
 
  Kalo kuda hitam yg didepan mundur, ini sama dengan pasukan
  pembawa bendera MUNDUR disaat pasukan induk lagi KRITIS (index
  minus).






  

Kuda BUM-BUM... (Re: [ob] Billy Special: BBCA)

2009-03-26 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Kuda BUM-BUM bertindak sbg pasukan MARTIR, artinya saat pasukan sudah bergerak 
di garis depan, dan siap2 di pukul mundur, pasukan MARTIR akan dikerahkan untuk 
penyeimbang pasukan, agar garis kemenangan tidak terlalu terpukul mundur.
SO, jadi wajar kalo pasukan MARTIR sekarang berkutat di BATALIYON 800. Tunggu 
semua pasukan menggerebak garis musuh di COORDINATE 1500, di saat itu pasukan 
MARTIR akan di berangkatkan.

-Rogerr...





From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 3:17:26 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] Billy Special: BBCA


Kemarin itu pasar LAGI NERVOUS, market lagi takut koreksi...
Jadi logikanya: Kuda hitam harus maju kedepan supaya market
engga panik...

TAPI sebaliknya jika pasukan induk MAU MENYERANG KEDEPAN,
pasukan bendera sebaiknya disuruh mundur untuk MENGECOH
LAWAN

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Paulus Tangke Allo paulu...@.. . 
wrote:

 jadi dgn kata lain,
 prediksi utk test support disaat index turun agak sulit diterima
 mengingat peran bbca sbg balancer agar pasar tetap terlihat menarik?
 
 boleh ambil kesimpulan begitu ndak?
 
 
 --pta
 
 
 2009/3/26 jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ...:
  Re: [ob] Billy Special: BBCA
 
 
  Apanya yg engga ngerti ?.
 
  Note:
  Kuda Hitam itu mirip pasukan pembawa bendera didalam
  perang jaman kuno/romawi.
 
  Kalo kuda hitam yg didepan mundur, ini sama dengan pasukan
  pembawa bendera MUNDUR disaat pasukan induk lagi KRITIS (index
  minus).






  

[ob] P.JT : INCO

2009-03-25 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Prof : advice utk INCO dunk...
 
Kemarin dpt unrealized gain...  sekarang jd unrealized loss nih 
 
 
GBU


  

[ob] P.JT : Napa PTBA di tahan abiz ?

2009-03-24 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Pd saat BC berlomba2 ke kutub utara, Bozz rasanya gak rela kalo PTBA ikutan.
Mohon diintipin dunk, entry yg pas di brp?

Thx



  

[ob] EL : Target BEI=2000 KAPAN ??

2009-03-24 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
EL, Target den BEI breaks 2,000, kira2 kapan, tahun ini atau 2012 ?



From: Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.comTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 3:18:31 PMSubject: Re: [ob] Re: Top Three Asian Markets to Invest --- Pasang tarohannya

Elaine Sui, Mark Mobius, Mark Matthews, then Jim Rogers and finally Warren Buffett, all said 'focus on Asia'... hee..  Then the great 'O' shows up as well and say 'Well, the planned agenda has been changed' -- lol this'd happen when IDX breaks 2000.(I was just teasing, where is he anyway? yoohooo)Yesterday siapa bilang fund inflow went to NON commodities, kalau Embah want change your mind, it's totally fine to do it now. Please, join us. We are real investors, with real money, and real target. In the end, I hope everyone will be happy and much wealthier than today.Elaine
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 12:31 PM, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id wrote:
Ayo kita balapin index Jakarta, Singapore dan China:http://finance. yahoo.com/ q/bc?t=5ds=%5EJKSEl=onz=lq=lc=%5EJKSE%2C01. SS%2C%5ESTI--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "sulistyo_winarto" sulistyo_winarto@ ... wrote: Top Three Asian Markets to Invest In The top three markets that Mark Matthews, Asia Pacific strategist at Fox-Pitt Kelton, likes are Singapore, China and Indonesia http://www.cnbc. com/id/15840232/ ?video=106900124 3play=1 . He explains his bullish outlook. CNBC Current Rally Still Has Legs The current rally seen in the Asian markets has got some legs, and could see another 15% rise http://www.cnbc. com/id/15840232/ ?video=106900121 9play=1 , predicts Mark Matthews, Asia Pacific strategist at Fox-Pitt Kelton.. CNBC kompor.com - - --+ ++ + + + +Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapuskecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.+ + + + ++ +Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web,
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Re: [ob] I'm Elaine's follower and I'm happy now == I'm NOT

2009-03-23 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
EL : 
Even I'm not your follower, I really appreciate for your suggestion and info.
Your word is really your BOND.

Keep posting di Waroeng Mbah.

GBU.


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Neng MIRA = to the point aja EL

2009-03-11 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
EL, koq kejadian baru comment seh 

Gini aja deh, dari list ini mana favorit EL untuk sort term
PTBA, PGAS, UNTR, BUMI, ITMG, ADRO

Dipilih...dipilih..., lalu kita lihat dlm kurun waktu 1 mingguan, 
apa emang cespleng 





From: Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 10:23:19 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Neng MIRA


  

[obrolan-bandar] P.JT : PGAS dunk

2009-03-10 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Prof, teropongin PGAS dunk...
Level 1900 kuat banget ya ?, mau nonjok ke atas atas malah longsor neh
 
Thx


  

[obrolan-bandar] Say it w/ Composite 1300+

2009-03-10 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
BOZZ :  Say it with Composite  1,300+

HAPPY BIRTHDAY OB

 
[ I believe, it's intended BD is fully respect to OB -Mbah]


  

BANKING REVIEW .... (P.Cendra) Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Us bank yang akan survive

2009-03-08 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
P. Cendra,

Welcome di Waoeng OB...
Your sharp analysis will enlighment our knowledge for investing, especially for 
NuBie.

Mohon reviewnya untuk Banking di BEI (my preference is BBCA and BBRI), apakah 
harga saat ini sdh pas untuk invest ?, atau nunggu aja setelah 1Q09 yg 
digadang2 oleh bear messanger BEI will touch 1000 ?.

Sering2 nongkrong di Waroengnya Mbah yg penuh warna-warni ini ...

GBU





From: cendrawira cendraw...@yahoo.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2009 11:55:59 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Us bank yang akan survive


Hello mate

You asked some good questions there. To give you an awareness of how this 
crisis started is because of over-leverage. From fleas, dogs, people to 
companies in US are borrowing multiple times of their equities as collateral. 
That is why overtime, companies are able to expand rapidly and generate massive 
profits and with people/society having too much money be able to push up share 
prices to epic ridiculous valuation. Thus everything is wayyy overvalued in 
2007-2008. Even now at the current SP level, company is just reasonably valued 
with sense with about 12-15x PER. Would you buy something that will give you 
break even in over 10 years? I personally would not do so. Imagine yourself 
buying business or investment that give you back your total return in 12-15 
years? Bah. Correct. Stocks historically during the great depression is valued 
at 2-3x PER. Surprise? But of course the condition in 1928 is different from 
now. The world has advanced much in many
 terms(population, economically, standard of living, technology). People are 
much smarter now than last time and information from internet has dramatically 
shrank the world which give people edge in making timely decision or taking 
advantage. I do not make money by making a bet on the direction of the economy 
or hoping a screwed up company to overturn(This is extremely hard), but I love 
something that is really good, the best in it's industry, no problem with it's 
balance sheet, for discount sale in 20 years !!

Investment Bank in US is practically dead for now, I do not dare to touch an 
investment bank especially with derivatives because it is a giant ponzi scheme, 
nobody will be there especially in this economic climate is able to absorb the 
writedown/losses. I shudder at the thought of banks with derivatives product, 
it is what cause US financial system meltdown and AIG, Citigroup, Lehman 
brothers to go BUST. Retail, Commercial Banking will be the face of new US 
financial system. My money is on Wells Fargo. Some people like BK (Bank of New 
York Mellon) and USB (Us Bancorp), but I always like the cream of the good, 
pick the best horse and run to the finish with it.

Good luck !
Fandy Cendrawira

--- On Sun, 3/8/09, anthonykalisaran@ telstra.ap. blackberry. net 
anthonykalisaran@ telstra.ap. blackberry. net wrote:

From: anthonykalisaran@ telstra.ap. blackberry. net anthonykalisaran@ 
telstra.ap. blackberry. net
Subject: Us bank yang akan survive
To: cendraw...@yahoo. com
Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 5:46 PM

Dear cendrawira

Saya baru saja membaca tulisan anda mengenai perbankan (terutama citigroup)
cukup bagus dan logis , tapi bukankah harga di pasar saham us sudah cukup
efisien sehingga seharusnya harga skrg udah mencerminkan valuenya yg skarang?
Cmiiw. Lalu mengenai bank yang akan survive dan bisa memberikan return yg besar
yg seperti anda tulis tsb , apakah bank tsb memang mempunyai potensi begitu
bagusnya dan portfolio yang lebih baik dari para peers nya? . 

Kalo boleh share bank 2 yang berpotensi seperti itu bank apa pak? Apakah
investment bank( potensi leverage besar
Sehingga bisa growth dengan luar biasa) ato bank2 konvensional yang
mengandalkan business retail dan commercial , karena saya masih agak awam pak di
bidang investasi , jadi mohon bantuannya.

Trima kasih banyak pak

Salam hangat
Anthony
Sent via BlackBerry® from Telstra Network





  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INTERIM REPORT 1 (CAKRABIRAWA OPERATION)

2009-03-06 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Prof, review PGAS dunk...
Keknya yg buang hajat di last minutes, yg kemarin pake HG.
 
BOZZ PGAS sptnya bekas preman Tanah Abang tuh, kasar dan kepruk aja.


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Siapkan Ammo == Puasa

2009-03-05 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
OK's jadi akur nih, kite puasa 1 bulanan, spt temen kite yuidz.
sambil ngeliat gajah lawan gajah berantem, semutnya minggir dulu,
ntar kalo gajahnya ada yg koit, kite kerubitin aja.

So, BOZZ it's your fully time, play your game as you want.





From: indeksbei3...@gmail.com indeksbei3...@gmail.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2009 8:58:53 AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Siapkan Ammo


Betul Pak.
Saya Juga lagi nunggu Low seperti Bulan Okt.
Tapi ga dapet2 nih.

Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss... 
!

From: Rei 
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 08:53:43 +0700
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Siapkan Ammo

Saya setujumending nunggu pas jeblok dan belanja banyak daripada gerilya 
tiap hari dgn hasil yg kurang memuaskan...
UNLESS anda pak JT...(pasti ada lah beberapa yg bener jago trading spt pak JT 
di sini)


 
2009/3/6 Ajo Ramon ajo.ra...@yahoo. com

  
Guys,

Daripada pusing tiap hari monitor market dengan risk-reward yang sangat tidak 
seimbang, maka saya sarankan anda mempersiapkan ammo untuk menyambut pesta 
belanja kira-kira 4-6 minggu dari sekarang.  Jangan ambil pusing dengan 
jenderal2 yang selalu berkoar untuk serbuu di sini, lebih baik simpan energi, 
enjoy holiday atau cari kantaw yang lain karena buying spree di bursa akan 
segera datang.

Salam, 





  

[obrolan-bandar] EL : Buy back Finance ??

2009-03-04 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
EL, Have u start short covering Finance ?
if SO, mau kita bantuin.


  

[obrolan-bandar] Pak JT : BBCA-Review

2009-03-04 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Pak JT, sharing BBCA review dunk ...
 
thx,


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO deny dividen news = kode etik jurnalistik ?

2009-03-02 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Kode etik jurnalistiknya gimana ya ?
Apakah begitu mudah untuk menyebar rumours yg berakibat kerugian investor.





From: Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 2:38:42 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO deny dividen news


Simple, Tbumi wants to get out hehehe
Joking.com


On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Bettina Tan bettina.tan@ gmail.com wrote:

After news on dividend from INCO and TINS, today INCO announce in their website 
to deny the news.. what happen?

http://www.pt- inco.co.id/ new/berita. php?b_id= 2009270205441




  

[obrolan-bandar] deviden INCO = USD0.036 == YPS18% ?

2009-02-27 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
http://economy.okezone.com/index.php/ReadStory/2009/02/27/278/196857/tins-inco-usulkan-bagi-dividen

Sedangkan, INCO mengusulkan seluruh laba bersih sepanjang 2008 senilai USD359,3 
juta akan dibagikan sebagai dividen. Rencana tersebut akan diusulkan kepada 
para pemegang saham pada April 2009.






From: Boys n Girls boysngi...@gmail.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 4:01:22 AM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] OOT : yahoo finance pun stress


hehe 

iseng-iseng bangun tidur buka yahoo finance
--

lucu juga lihat yahoo finance yang notabene mesin bisa bikin such error 
calculation.

Mungkin ikutan bingung lihat volatilitas bursa 

masa SNP500 738.16 ditulis cuman -1.95 :D

--
mesin pun frustasi lihatnya.. gimana manusia

-
gambar tersebut diambil beberapa menit sebelum tutup NYSE hari jumat 



  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Apakah sebaiknya MELIKWIDASI investasi dulu ? == apa perlu CL ?

2009-02-25 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Kalo yg nynagkut kira2 15% Loss, apa worth it untuk CL ?
Dan ambil lagi pas den BEI nyentuh 1000?

OB expert pls your suggestion.



From: Rei highwaysta...@gmail.comTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 1:21:05 PMSubject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Apakah sebaiknya MELIKWIDASI investasi dulu ?


Pak Halim,

Are you thinking what I am thinking? 

2009/2/26 Boys n Girls boysngi...@gmail. com





memang susah ya.. 

btwada beberapa emiten yang naik lho earningnya

harga coal jan 08 lebih rendah dari jam 09
2009/2/26 jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id





Apakah sebaiknya MELIKWIDASI investasi dulu ?Ada yg tanya seperti begini, ini pertanyaan yg sangat penting,jadi embah lemparkan aja ke floor biar dibahas bersama sama:Kapan investor balik ke BEI ?:- 31 Maret 09, penyampaian lap keuangan final 2008, IHSG akan bergejolak karena banyak laporan keuangan yg akan mirip INCO dan BDMN yang performancenya jatuh pada Q4 terutama emiten sektor commodity.- 30 April penyampaian lap keuangan Q1 2009, IHSG kembali bergejolakkarena:- Performance Q1/2009 akan jatuh BANGET dibanding Q1/2008terutama sektor commodity.- Dampak resesi global akan NAMPAK pada laporan Q1/2009.- Minggu kedua April ada pemilu legislatif, investor akanwait and see.Apakah Investor akan mulai masuk ke BEI pada pertengahan Aprilsesudah pemilu ?.Pada saat ini mungkin sudah jelas apakah DOW akan kelevel 6000 ?dan apakah IHSG balik kelevel 900 ?.Gimana
 menurut teman2 ?. Apakah sesudah pemilu presiden bulanSeptember ?. Tapi ini kejauhan, mungkin Dow udah rebound dariLOWnya saat itu ?.




  

[obrolan-bandar] Mbah 'napa BANKING LOYO

2009-02-23 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Mbah, 
Regional  Europ semua ijo di gerakkan oleh Banking, tp napa den BEI anteng2 
wae ??

Apa buat amunisi BOZZ besok ? spt mbah bilang, super tanker yg bisa gerakin BEI 
ke Utara adalh Banking.

Comment, pls



  

[obrolan-bandar] TRUB Lover

2009-02-22 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Boeat : TRUB lover ...

Comment, argument Analysis R welcome

Cheerz,
Truba Bidik Pendapatan Rp2,7 Trilyun 
Senin, 23 Februari 2009 
Jakarta (Indofinanz) - PT Truba Alam Manunggal Engineering Tbk (TRUB) 
memproyeksikan meraih pendapatan antar Rp2,5 trilyun sampai Rp2,7 trilyu tahun 
2009. Pertumbuhan pendapatan bakal diperoleh setelah pertambangan batubara 
perseroan mulai berproduksi. Corporate Secretary TRUB Gamala Virasa Katoppo 
seperti yang dilansir Bisnis Indonesia mengatakan, pendapatan perseroan tahun 
ini pasti lebih tinggi dari tahun lalu. Sementara pendapatan per Desember 2008 
dipastikan lebih besar ketimbang per September 2008 sejumlah Rp2,07 trilyun 
dengan laba Rp193 milyar. 



  

[obrolan-bandar] Napa BBCA ikut PROSOTAN ?....

2009-02-11 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
BCA news pd positive semua, spt di bawah. 
Tapi napa ya koq ikut prosotan ?...
 
Kredit BCA Melesat 
Rabu, 11 Februari 2009 
Jakarta (Indofinanz) - PT Bank Central Asia Tbk (BCA/BBCA) sampai akhir 
Desember 2008 telah menyalurkan kredit sebesar Rp112 trilyun atau meningkat 
sekitar 34 persen ketimbang tahun 2007. 
Direktur Retail BCA Suwignyo Budiman, usai penandatanganan kerjasama dengan PT 
Metro Batavia di Hotel Red Top, Jakarta, Selasa (10/02), mengungkapkan, 
pertumbuhan penyaluran kredit tahun 2008 lebih tinggi dari tahun sebelumnya. 
Tak hanya kredit yang meningkat, jumlah dana pihak ketiga (DPK) juga ikut 
menebal menjadi Rp209 trilyun dengan rasio antara DPK dan pinjaman (non 
performing loan/NPL) di bawah satu persen. 
Bagaimana dengan target penyaluran kredit tahun ini? Meski diyakini tetap 
bertumbuh, namun peningkatan gelontoran pinjaman tahun 2009 diperkirakan lebih 
rendah dari tahun 2008 sebagai dampak dari terjadinya krisis ekonomi global. 
Untuk itu perseroan tahun ini akan fokus pada peningkatan kualitas layanan 
kepada nasabah dan berupay menjaga NPL tetap di bawah satu persen. 


  

[obrolan-bandar] Ada apa dg banking ???

2009-02-10 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Ada apa dg banking, koq tiarapnya lama banget ???



  

[obrolan-bandar] BDMN must be in trader radar !

2009-02-03 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
For trader, BDMN must be in our radar !  


  

[obrolan-bandar] Jagoan BEI turun tahta ?

2009-02-02 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
WILL this year TLKM be REPLACED by BXXX or PXXX ?
 
Experts, Suhu and Seniors OB, pls comment ...


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] BEI sepi, OB sepi, Eropa berdarah = EL, comment pls ?

2009-02-02 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
EL, as part of Bull Warrior,
I think, you have to share your comment on below valid view.





From: Ajo Ramon ajo.ra...@yahoo.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 2, 2009 10:10:56 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BEI sepi, OB sepi, Eropa berdarah


Meninggalkan milis OB dari akhir September 08 sampai hari ini di inbox saya ada 
sekitar 24000an unread emails,,,OB is really something, padahal profesi sebagai 
trader adalah profesi yang paling menyenangkan dimana ada saat2 kita harus 
bekerja keras (bull) dan ada saat2 dimana kita diberi kesempatan buat 
beristirahat (bear),,,but you guys are trading all the ways, during ups and 
downs,,,do you get commensurate results? be honest to yourself, not me.

Let me tell you what lies ahead:
- Ada pemilu yang belum ketahuan arahnya apakah bakalan aman atau rusuh. Kalau 
anda adalah investor asing apakah anda akan membiarkan investasi di negara yang 
belum ketahuan mau kemana arah jalannya??
- Ada beberapa bisul di komponen bursa yang masih belum di disclose ke 
masyarakat (MKBD sekuritas yang udah jebol, Modal nyangkut di repo, NAB 
Reksadana yang udah kelojotan, gagal bayar, dlsb) yang demi alasan keamanan 
sampai saat ini masih diusahakan untuk diselesaikan secara diam-diam oleh mereka
- Data2 ekonomi yang semakin memburuk, bayangkan kalo krisis mortgage di USA 
merembet dari subprime ke prime karena semakin banyaknya PHK.
- Ekonomi Jepang yang semakin keteter (kalo mau prediksi ekonomi kita mau 
kemana, gambaran sedikit banyaknya bisa diperoleh dari situasi perekonomian 
Jepang ini)
- Negara tetangga mini mulai menggunakan cadangannya buat melawan resesi karena 
motor ekonominya nyangkut berat pada beberapa investasi di US.

Why are you still here??

Jangan pernah merasa takut akan ditinggal oleh bull kalo dia datang, belajarlah 
dari sejarah bahwa kalo bull datang maka dia akan merangsek selama 
bertahun-tahun.  So, pack your things, enjoy your money, enjoy your time with 
your family.  Let the world turns without you for a while.

Cheers.





From: hepisa...@gmail. com hepisa...@gmail. com
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, February 2, 2009 9:23:49 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BEI sepi, OB sepi, Eropa berdarah


Mbah, ga biasanya dari jam 6pm sampai jam 9pm belum ada email masuk dari OB 
members, ada apa Mbah, apa BD bule itu nepu lagi ya..

PAMHO Mbah.
hz.

lov...@blackberry

 


  

Re: Trs: [obrolan-bandar] Re: SULI ?? Hebat = Diinject Sampoerna, Info dari mana ?

2009-01-30 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Info dari mana SULI di inject Michele ?
News : Utangnya sdh default

Thx





From: Mr.Daniel Benningthon benningt...@yahoo.com
To: oBrolan bandar obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 3:43:09 PM
Subject: Trs: [obrolan-bandar] Re: SULI ?? Hebat


SULI naik mau tau gak...?
di injek dana segar sama michele sampoerna..injek di pasar modal  juga injek 
untuk perluasan lahan..
SULI bergerak di bidang perkayuan...






- Pesan Diteruskan 
Dari: agung39 agun...@yahoo. com
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Terkirim: Jumat, 30 Januari, 2009 14:49:29
Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: SULI ?? Hebat


SADIS...bandar SULI sadiss...
Dari 200 udah ke 250...
Yang kemarin kena gertak Cut LOSS.:(

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, agung39 agun...@...  wrote:

 Si SULI..bener2 mantap..
 baru dimimpiin aja udah mo AR kiri :)
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Darmawan dadiresmawan02@  
 wrote:
 
  Suli, hebat
 




Lebih bergaul dan terhubung dengan lebih baik.. 
Tambah lebih banyak teman ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang!  


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI chart 15 Menit 230109 == Planned Agenda (P.Oen)

2009-01-23 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Mungkin dg konsep berbagi gratis P. Oentoeng tetap Oentoeng ya ...
Supaya Oentoengnya tambah banyak, bisa bagi2 Planned Agenda 2009 dunk pak ..., 
spt keyakinan bhw den BEI akan 1000.
Apapun info tsb even keliatannya absurd pasti berguna buat kita


Thx




From: Provokator Saham oentoeng...@yahoo.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 4:52:55 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI chart 15 Menit 230109


--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Halim Mintareja hmin...@... 
wrote:

 Kalau gak salah... ilmu yang satu ini pernah Mr Oen share di Surabaya..
 
 gratis lho
 
 Contohnya ANTM di 4000
 
 betul ??
 

P Hamin,

Kenapa bisa gratis?

Karena saya merasa bahwa ilmu tsb blm tentu bermanfaat bagi temen2
lainnya.
Bisa jadi hanya menjadi pengetahuan yg biasa saja.

Lain kalau saya membuat kursus (apapun) ttg TRADING.
Karena sy akan MENJAMIN bahwa teknik saya akan mampu digunakan oleh
semua peserta untuk meningkatkan gain mereka.

Caranya seperti Service After Sales
Misal; Kursus seharga 1 jt.
Selesai acara; saya meminta peserta untuk menyediakan dana min 10jt.
Setiap peserta akan trading bareng saya untuk mencari gain 1jt.
Tujuannya minimal sbg ganti rugi atas keikutsertaan mereka kemarin.
Supaya saya tidak ada beban moral dikatain bhw saya nyari duit dari
peserta kursus.

Selama itu blm bisa saya jalankan, dimanapun, kapanpun saya akan
melakukannya secara GRATIS...

 


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] HOT V2_info dari petugas eTrading == TRANSAKSI TDK JALAN !!!

2009-01-04 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
To Etrading,

Masalah yg saya temuin tidak bisa transaksi BUY or SELL, muncul error code 
1002. Saya sdh coba berkali2 tapi tetap gagal !
Please respond ASAP !.





From: Bambang Saputro bes_...@yahoo.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2009 9:40:08 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] HOT V2_info dari petugas eTrading


Wah...seneng nih pak Wayansaya sudah masuk ke versi baru dan mencoba-coba 
program kecuali transaksi... PIN masih ditolak!

--- On Sun, 1/4/09, wayan gunawan gunawan.milis. fo...@gmail. com wrote:

From: wayan gunawan gunawan.milis. fo...@gmail. com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] HOT V2_info dari petugas eTrading
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, January 4, 2009, 9:30 PM


Malam ini saya dah bisa menggunakan HOTS v.2 padahal kemaren ketika memasukkan 
pin selalu wrong password
 
 


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Happy Belated ...New Year 09

2009-01-01 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Maaf. yg di-infokan koq kurang jelas ya ?, bisa tambahin lagi cluenya? di 
sektor apa? kalo bisa sekalian saham apa gitu.
Nyang pasti...resiko ditanggung masing2





From: James Liem prim...@yahoo.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 2, 2009 12:38:34 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Happy Belated ...New Year 09


Dear all,

sekedar menambahkan ...selebihnya silahkan cross check dgn yg lebih ahli di 
forum2 yg ada secara Tech  Fundamentalnya, kita termasuk yg suka dgn satu ini 
 kolek terus target price rumors di 09 ...350 - 400 (Discl on), kalo yg ini 
 Bt beda dgn B group  yg ada lainnya ... F  D sdh pada mulai akumulasi dari 
level 180 - 215 

Goodluck all 


the year 08 has gone.. but made us strong 
the path was long, but we walked with song 
there wer feras  tears  cheers as we travelled the year ..
we know that GOD doesn't require us to BE the Best 
He just want's us to DO our best ... andHE will take care of the rest 
 
Happy Belated New year 09 
 
Regards
 
James Liem 
 


  

Re: BUY MORE ..!! [obrolan-bandar] Arah index? == PROPERTY ?

2008-12-30 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
dear EL, I don't see property of Citra grp as part of your recomendation such like : CTRS, CTRP nCTRA.
With PBV 0.5, Dun't u see those very cheap in 2H09 while BI rate about 7-8% ?

any comment ?

Thanks



From: Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.comTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 12:35:38 AMSubject: Re: BUY MORE ..!! [obrolan-bandar] Arah index?

IDX slumped because of commodity crash back in mid 2008. I remember that I already told you guys that we were switching to financials and avoid energy/agriculture for 2H08. If you ask whether we got hit, then the answer is yes we were hit (I guess everyone were too) in the 2H, but not severe and fortunately we're still outperforming the market, thanks for the commodity rally. Our analyst team was right about commodity crash in 2H and Bakrie repos case, but the bankruptcy of LEH was a shocker. We had to let go some of the losing positions and rebalance our portfolio.But don't worry, we're ABOUT TO SEE THE BIGGEST, LONGEST BUT RATHER SLOW BULL MARKET. Remember this, some corporations have major problem with cash but that is because most OTHER major corporations are holding their HUGE amount of money inside their sleeves, waiting to be SPENT in 2009.And you know what,.. I'm happy for you too. Do not overtrade, INVEST!..
 or at least expand your trading timeframe. Don't get cornered with the market volatility, you will lose. Be a winner. BUY!!Where is jsxtrader anyway... yoohoo... r u there... Elaine
2008/12/30 Vincent Chase chase.vincent@ yahoo.com

this is buy more part 2 rite?do you still keep buy more part 1, the one that you have posted b4 ihsg slumped? 


Elaine Sui elainesui83@ gmail.com wrote:


HAPPY NEW YEAR 2009. May everyone has good health and prosperity.Here's a review for buy and hold strategy (refer to the hints below, Dec 6th):




Dec 5
Dec 30
GAIN(%)

LPKR
840
800
 (4.76)

DEWA
50
50
 - 

BTEL
50
51
 2.00 

ADRO
475
485
 2.11 

INCO
1890
1930
 2.12 

INDF
890
930
 4.49 

HEXA
630
690
 9.52 

MEDC
1690
1870
 10.65 

LSIP
2600
2925
 12.50 

JSMR
800
910
 13.75 

BUMI
760
910
 19.74 

ISAT
4750
5750
 21.05 

MNCN
125
154
 23.20 

BMRI
1640
2025
 23.48 

AALI
7900
9800
 24.05 

SMGR
3325
4150
 24.81 

SOBI
680
900
 32.35 
What do you think? I assume traders should have better gain than above figure. JsxTrader? Embah?Elaine
2008/12/6 Elaine Sui elainesui83@ gmail.com
I'll quit posting until January 2009. Let the market speak for itself. I have told what you guys may want to know, and I think you get the message clearly. And, since OB already has a bullish general Artomoro, I hope you guys listen carefully to his commands. I WILL support him.Gen. Art, good luck with your mission.Good night, take care, Merry Xmas and Happy New Year 2009.Elaine SuiDec08 top performers: Indosat, Darma Henwa, Sorini, Bakrie Telecom, Bumi Res, Adaro, Mandiri,
 INCO, Medco, PP London Sumatera, Hexindo, Lippo K, Jasa, Astra Agro, MNC, Cemen Gressik and Indofood. Traders! Put these on your watchlist.
2008/12/6 artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id




buy more..!! just BUY...bear waria says index mau ke 900 ternyata sudah tidak terbukti. pentungan sudah hilang.bumi mau ke 500 juga tidak terbukti, malah kita sudah dapat harga murah, kalo ada sale lagi, ya kita tampungin, volume yang kita mau baru 20%-an dari keseluruhan total volume yg kita inginkan. buat siapa? he he he.november rain..?? aah november sudah lewat. yang ada hanya desember ceria. oli price dijadikan ajang spekulasi para pedagang komoditi saja. gak perlu kuatir. kecuali wallstreet tutup, mungkin artomoro jadi pengepul kertas. he he he.kemaren dow minus -600an , BEI hanya minus kecil. biasalah sudah.BEI sudah sangat imun dengan semua bad news US
 dan lainnya. memang situasi begini tidak di sukai para trader tek tok. hahaha.maunya buy lowest hari itu trus hari itu juga maunya harga terbang tinggi. he he he.rubahlah dari trader menjadi investor. kalo jadi traders cuma bikin kenyang broker nya. hehehe..(maaf brokers, becanda)so. apa yang di tunggu. kereta santa sudah bawa hadiah besar utk 2009.silakan pilih. cari yang lap keu Q3 sangat bagus, yang menjadi leader di sectornya, next year anda jadi milyarder, so next year cuma 1 bulan dari sekarang. artomoro9 (sang pengepul : ho ho ho!)Elaine Sui elainesui83@ gmail.com wrote:


BUY! I'll be consistent with this, Rei. You should check it yourself, market is now getting more and more resistant to bad news. The news media has the ability to make good news sounds bad, and bad news sounds worse.Massive layoffs. Falling oil price. Bailouts. From an investor view, these are GOOD news. Massive layoffs = efficiency. Falling oil price = lower operating cost. Bailouts = Govt. takeovers/acquisiti on. Since about one hundred years ago, the economy always has the ability to cure itself, and for Q109 (or FY08) results,they will be overall above expectation. Investors should get maximum investment return if they start to accumulate now.And I know Oentoeng 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] EMOSI = NO 1.... Re: We get a STRONG Elliott Wave 5 == P.OEN, pls share

2008-12-18 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
P.OEN,

Welcome on board, sptnya agak lama menghilang, moga2 kembali bawa news buat 
kita2.
Biasanya di akhir tahun BOZZ punya planned agenda buat thn dpn, kira2 agendanya 
gmn ya?
Apa the lowest di March09 (sblm pemilu) msh berlaku atau ada perubahan plan. 
Please share pak.

Kalo saya pribadi, semua input yg masuk di OB adalah valuable info, tapi jgn 
ditelan mentah2 dan hrs difilter.
Kan, sekarang, informasi sudah flat dan gampang di akses.
Walau P.Oen, di cap sbg Bear Warrior, mnrt saya, banyak nilai positifnya. Salah 
satunya, sbg penyeimbang info dan jg break yg over optimist.
So far, tebak2an P.Oen terjadi hampir 80-90%, artinya, memang BOZZ still able 
to control the market.

So, pls share Planned Agenda 2009, buat kita2 yg mash culun ini.

Thanks,

 




From: Provokator Saham oentoeng...@yahoo.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:25:14 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] EMOSI = NO 1 Re: We get a STRONG Elliott Wave 5



--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, y_dizz y_d...@... wrote:

 Pak JT, salah satu penyebabnya, saya kira karena selama berbulan2 ini 
 kita selalu diteror oleh para BEAR WARIA dengan berbagai berita 
 negatif. Ya repo lah, ya RATU SIMA lah, ya BRAHMA KUMBARA, belum lagi 
 PENTOENG yang legendaris.
 

Jadi menurut anda masalah yg muncul ini cuman isapan jempol belaka?


http://www.detikfin ance.com/ read/2008/ 11/17/172207/ 1038452/6/ bakrie-tolak- 
lunasi-repo- liar
 
http://www.bisnis. com/servlet/ page?_pageid= 
127_dad=portal30_schema=PORTAL30vnw_lang_id= 1ptopik=ENGcdate=17-DEC- 
2008inw_id=643957
Apakah pengetahuan di bursa itu hanyalah bicara;
- Saham mana yg mau naik? 
- Indeks mau kemana? 
- Kenapa saham  turun/naik?
Dst...

Hohohoho

Oentoeng


 


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Wellcome pak Ekonombeling = Pak Marlow pls comment

2008-12-17 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Thanks atas refreshnya pak, jd semangat lagi baca analisisnya pak Marlow Riza.

To : Pak Marlow,
Kalo ada waktu bisa di evaluasi lagi kira2 range IHSG di thn2009-2010, dg 
asumsi inflasi spt ditargetkan oleh govt. Katakanlah ambil batas atasnya (worst 
case).
Kira2 sektor2 apa yg bisa mendorong pertumubuhan tsb.
Positif ato negative, wet or dry, bagi saya, analisisnya is very valuable info 
for us.

GBU

 




From: edwinkdr edwin...@yahoo.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 2:35:54 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Wellcome pak Ekonombeling



 Dulu pernah ada tulisan dimilis OB tentang model perhitungan
 IHSG dengan menggunakan basis GDP dari seorang pengajar UI. Embah
 lupa namanya.

Apa mungkin ini mbah ? :-)

http://finance. groups.yahoo. com/group/ obrolan-bandar/ message/107144

NILAI WAJAR IHSG 1427-2331 base on 10years Indonesia’s GDP growth

Marlow Riza ©
- There is always an opportunity behind fear

Alumni of FEUI, majored in Financial Management

Kesimpulan culun dari saya...hihi :

Kita jatuh, untuk dapat melompat lebih tingi...:-)

Sheila On 7 - Melompat Lebih Tinggi

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=A6VY-cQ42ZM

Tks

Best Regards

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsx_consultant
jsx-consultant@  wrote:

 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, ekonombeling 
 ekonombeling@  wrote:
 
  wah.kl dah menyangkut nama saham, mending ke para trader langsung 
  ya, lebih jago mereka drpd saya. o iya dah jarang nulis lagi, belum 
  ada waktu.
  
 
 Keahlian Para ekonom seperti Pak Sirait Phd dan pak Ekonombeling 
 sangat diperlukan dipasar modal untuk targeting harga saham dan index 
 dimasa depan.
 
 Dua faktor utama yang sangat menentukan index dimasa depan adalah:
 1. Growth.
 2. Cost of capital/Suku bunga.
 
 Secara UMUM (dari rumus Gordon growth):
 - Harga saham/index berbanding lurus dengan Growth
 - Hraga saham/index berbanding terbalik dengan Cost of capital
 
 - Growth: 
 Pertumbuhan GDP, secara kasar mewakili pertumbuhan para emiten.
 - Cost of capital.
 Tingkat suku bunga, inflasi, kebijakan monter dan fiskal merupakan
 subject para Ekonom.
 
 Jadi jika kita BISA meramalkan Growth dan Suku bunga 2009, kurang
 lebih kita tahu index akan naik atau turun keberapa pada thn 2009.
 
 Dulu pernah ada tulisan dimilis OB tentang model perhitungan
 IHSG dengan menggunakan basis GDP dari seorang pengajar UI. Embah
 lupa namanya.
 
 Mohon dikoreksi jika ada yang kurang tepat.


 


  

[obrolan-bandar] When the PROPERTY played ? (to ALL MASTER OB)

2008-12-16 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
EL, Prof, Mbah, dkk
 
Kapan kira2 Property dimainkan?,  Jan 09?


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kompi 1261 serbu (tunggu risk di 30% aja) == SENIN NYENTUH 1240-1220

2008-12-12 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Kalo setiap hareIJO, tentu kita happy prend. 
Tapi kan kita bisa prediksi dr data yg ada saat ini, dan klop dg prediksinya 
master Tasrul.

Anyway, moga2 ntar mlm Dow cuman merah jambu aja, ato pink... favorit colornya 
EL

 



From: y_dizz y_d...@yahoo.co.id
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 3:27:46 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kompi 1261 serbu (tunggu risk di 30% aja) == 
SENIN NYENTUH 1240-1220


Kongres Amerika kelihatannya belum belajar dari pengalaman. Ingat, 
dulu waktu permohonan bailout Lehman Brothers ditolak, seluruh dunia 
kena getahnya. Masa sih cuma $14 Billion untuk menyelamatkan sekian 
ratus ribu pekerja di sektor otomotif US dari PHK aja kagak 
dikabulin. Pelit tuh bule2..

Biasanya Dow Fut memang akan mempengaruhi opening di NYSE, tapi siapa 
tahu closing bisa merah tipis. Seninnya ijo, Selasa The Fed cut rate, 
OPEC cut production, kita bisa HAPPY deh...

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Dvc Mm investorijo@ ... wrote:

 Se-7, Dow Fut MERAH MEMBARA
 Ntar Malam BLACK FRINDAY di US = BLACK MONDAY di JSX
 
 
 
 
  _ _ __
 From: Tasrul tas...@...
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 2:01:25 PM
 Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kompi 1261 serbu (tunggu risk di 
30% aja)
 
 
 Dear All,
  
 IHSG sesi dua masih dalam tekanan jual, saat ini riks sudah 46.33 % 
disarankan untuk kembali ambil posisi buy untuk saham-saham yang 
outperform jika risk IHSG menimal mendekati 30 % atau sekitar level 
1,226.49 (antara S3 dan S2). 
  
 Dari indikator teknikal terlihat MFI yang belum stabil dengan 
kecenderungan turun, W%R dan yang masih berpotensi turun dan MACD 
namun masih tetap divergence positif dengan indeks.
  
 Jika volume hari ini mampu tembus trend volume maka besar 
kemungkinan IHSG akan ke risk 30 % tsb diatas.

 


  

[obrolan-bandar] OB = Referensi para BD

2008-12-12 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Ck..ck   OB benar2 jd refernsi para BIG BOZZ JSX
Hare ini ditutup pas di garisnya Mbah 1262...
Mbah emang moy...
 
Artinye : Homework buat master dan suhu OB.
Mbah, Prof, dan suhu2 laennya, week-n ini di kasi' PR ama Bozz.
Senin will go to NORTH or SOUTH
 
 
Happy Week-n


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kompi 1261 serbu (tunggu risk di 30% aja) == SENIN NYENTUH 1240-1220

2008-12-12 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Honestly, saya termasuk fanz analisisnya pak Tasrul.
Statistics banget gitu lo...jd terukur brp % risk : reward.
 
Analisis numerik ini, apa termasuk dlm sort course kmrn ?
Maunya sih pingin iku, tp sy jauh diluar jkt, jd hrs di manage wktnya.
 
Sering2 posting pak.
 
GBU


From: Tasrul tas...@overseas.co.id
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 4:22:25 PM
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kompi 1261 serbu (tunggu risk di 30% aja) == 
SENIN NYENTUH 1240-1220


Saya masih belajar kok Pak..masih banyak yang jago statistic disini…sayangnya 
gak mau nongol…jadi malu nih..
 



From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
] On Behalf Of Dvc Mm
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 3:57 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kompi 1261 serbu (tunggu risk di 30% aja) == 
SENIN NYENTUH 1240-1220
 
Kalo setiap hareIJO, tentu kita happy prend. 
Tapi kan kita bisa prediksi dr data yg ada saat ini, dan klop dg prediksinya 
master Tasrul.
 
Anyway, moga2 ntar mlm Dow cuman merah jambuaja, ato pink... favorit colornya EL
 



From:y_dizz y_d...@yahoo. co.id
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 3:27:46 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kompi 1261 serbu (tunggu risk di 30% aja) == 
SENIN NYENTUH 1240-1220
Kongres Amerika kelihatannya belum belajar dari pengalaman. Ingat, 
dulu waktu permohonan bailout Lehman Brothers ditolak, seluruh dunia 
kena getahnya. Masa sih cuma $14 Billion untuk menyelamatkan sekian 
ratus ribu pekerja di sektor otomotif US dari PHK aja kagak 
dikabulin. Pelit tuh bule2..

Biasanya Dow Fut memang akan mempengaruhi opening di NYSE, tapi siapa 
tahu closing bisa merah tipis. Seninnya ijo, Selasa The Fed cut rate, 
OPEC cut production, kita bisa HAPPY deh...

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Dvc Mm investorijo@ ... wrote:

 Se-7, Dow Fut MERAH MEMBARA
 Ntar Malam BLACK FRINDAY di US = BLACK MONDAY di JSX
 
 
 
 
  _ _ __
 From: Tasrul tas...@...
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 2:01:25 PM
 Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kompi 1261 serbu (tunggu risk di 
30% aja)
 
 
 Dear All,
  
 IHSG sesi dua masih dalam tekanan jual, saat ini riks sudah 46.33 % 
disarankan untuk kembali ambil posisi buy untuk saham-saham yang 
outperform jika risk IHSG menimal mendekati 30 % atau sekitar level 
1,226.49 (antara S3 dan S2). 
  
 Dari indikator teknikal terlihat MFI yang belum stabil dengan 
kecenderungan turun, W%R dan yang masih berpotensi turun dan MACD 
namun masih tetap divergence positif dengan indeks.
  
 Jika volume hari ini mampu tembus trend volume maka besar 
kemungkinan IHSG akan ke risk 30 % tsb diatas.
  


  

[obrolan-bandar] Pak JT : ASII

2008-12-11 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
ASII kira2 resis dimana pak ?
BK gak brenti2 ngeguyur euy.
 
thx


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: bozz lagi duduk manis... == THE QUEEN

2008-12-11 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
If u could make it, U R reallyTHE QUEEN.
NO Queen SiXX...

THE REAL QUEEN CAN MAKE IMPOSIBLE TO BE POSSIBLE





From: Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 9:07:20 PMSubject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: bozz lagi duduk manis...

Aw shit I forgot this.. BUY!!!  Elaine tidak janji tapi coba mau kasih 15 consecutive white candles. lol.. Elaine
2008/12/11 Elaine Sui elainesui83@ gmail.com
Artomoro dan Oentoeng punya kenal bozz. Elaine tidak tahu bozz. Kalau Market Makers itu Elaine tahu. They're responsible for maintaining market liquidity. About 40% of the daily volume is NOT made by traders. Terlalu sedikit traders (with adequate fund) untuk bisa keep IDX liquid, and most big funds are not doing day trading.These market makers are official and endorsed by the IDX (though never exposed). Basically what they do are just moving things around. So you know. Sometimes you may see their work by looking at broker codes, like broker XX bought 60,000 shares, and then sold 59,500 shares on the next day. I assure you that THIS was done by a market maker. The fact that they only did a net buy of 500 shares. No fees of course.Without them, IDX will be very 'dry' and volatile. Their job is to provide buyers/sellers for everyone. Every stock market
 has market makers, I dunno about IDX, but in the US this is done by automated computers.Elaine
2008/12/11 elvira raven elviraraven@ yahoo.com



jgn telan bulat2 omongan di milist ini... bahkan sekalipun ia seorang jendral di milis ataupun institutional dealer di sekuritas asing ..setiap orang punya kepentingan masing2 dalam posting disini, apalagi dealer2 asing yg pake nama bozz dan lain2...--- On Thu, 12/11/08, y_dizz [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.id wrote: From: y_dizz [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.id Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: bozz lagi duduk manis... To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008, 1:41 AM


 Katanya DONT SELL ANYTHING, sekarang kok suruh disiplin pada target Pak? --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, artomoro9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote:   cuaca belum mendukung...   sabar...kalo cuaca mendukung, bozz siap2 terbangin lagi.jangan lupa disiplin pada target anda.salam, artomoro9 (ngopi dulu aaahh...) DISCLAIMER ON    - - ---   Bersenang-senang di Yahoo! Messenger dengan semua teman 
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[obrolan-bandar] Ada yg punya riset ML

2008-12-09 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Prendz,
ada yg punya riset ML untuk Outlook Indonesia and Astra group. Bisa share prend 
?

Thx,


  

[obrolan-bandar] TINS gmn P. JT ?

2008-12-08 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Trio macan , khususnya TINS, gmn pak ?.
Kmrn Gen. Arto rekomen ini
 
thx, 
 


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Analisa volume == ORANG BAIK = REZEKI BAIK

2008-12-05 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Hukum Alam : Orang Baik = Rezeki Baik.

Kalo isinya FA, TA dan BA Mbah, Saya yakin jd BEST EVER SELLER buku investasi 
di Indonesia.
 Jadi kapan bukunya terbit neh ?  

Fans OB 
Jong Sumatera



From: izenox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2008 12:22:32 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Analisa volume


Saya--bekerja di penerbitan dgn armada pemasaran lebih dari 2000 orang di 
seluruh Indonesia--siap menampung buah pikiran para master FA dan TA di sini. 
 
Regards,
Iwan.
 
 
- Original Message - 
From: Bambang Saputro 
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Analisa volume

SETUJUU. jadikan buku saja kuliah para jenderal .! Biar tidak 
ada anak buah tiri krn gak sempat hadir ke Jakarta! Hehehe.
Yogyakarta_Group

--- On Sat, 12/6/08, Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com wrote:

From: Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Analisa volume
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 9:53 AM


Ide yg bagus tuh pak JT...member OB 8000-an, ntar kalo bisa jual ke setengahnya 
saja, sudah ada 4000 standby buyers (kayak stanby buyernya EL kalo index 900 
hehehe). Terus sisa lempar ke pasar...butuh sponsor? hehe
Susah cuan dari saham, kan masih ada peluang lain :)


2008/12/6 Herman Tobing herman.tobing@ gmail.com

Pak JT, sebenarnya saya pingin ikut, tapi tinggal di Malang.
Usul saja , apakah  nanti bisa dibukukan dan dijual untuk member OB?

Salam ,
Herman


2008/12/6 JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com

Yes Sir, itu akan kita diskusikan.. , termasuk juga finding turning point, 
bottom  top, using Volume Analysis.., dll.
 
Regards, 
JsxTrader
 
From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] 
On Behalf Of ruzli
Sent: 05 Desember 2008 18:50
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Analisa volume

Analisa seperti di bawah ini jg diajarkan waktu training nanti kan Boss JT ?
Pada 3 Desember 2008 11:48, jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com menulis:
Tergantung kebutuhan Pak.., apa yg mau diukur (kekuatan trend, kekuatan 
SAR, kekuatan GAP, validitas candle, validitas breakout, dsb) dan time 
framenya. Bisa dibandingkan dgn rata-rata dari suatu titik tertentu, 
bisa juga dibandingkan dengan volume di 'sekitar-nya' , atau bisa juga 
deng volume di har-hari tertentu, dsb.

Penjelasan detailnya agak, panjang Pak, nanti ya, kapan kapan kita 
diskusikan.

Tuh bumi digebukin lagi kan..., ampun dah..., presurenya gede banget.., 
mudah-mudahan temen-temen ngga ada yg benjol-benjol. 

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, hendras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Pak JT,
 
 kalo volume dikatakan besar/kecil itu biasanya dibandingkan dengan 
volume yg
 mana ya ?
 apakah sehari sebelumnya, volume rata-rata seminggu, sebulan, 3 bulan 
etc...
 Mohon petunjuknya. .
 Thanks.
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Relax dulu lah:: Oil May Fall Below $25 Next Year, Merrill Lynch Says

2008-12-05 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Definisi short term and long term nya bisa di perjelas time range-nya.
Apa short term sampai 2Q09/2H09 and Long Term 2012 ??

Thx,



From: Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSent: Saturday, December 6, 2008 1:35:20 PMSubject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Relax dulu lah:: Oil May Fall Below $25 Next Year, Merrill Lynch Says

Market is going UP! Slowly, but persistent. You're about to see lots of price gaps. Sudden surge/drop near opening/closing. Irregular volumes. Whatever tools you use, it will be too late. Biar traders bosan dan jadi investors saja. ha ha ha... Jsxtrader mau kasih course, Elaine titip msg boleh? tell them this: 'BUY! Lebih fun jadi investors. Buy lowest, sell highest.' okay dear? Short term financials, long term commodities, infras/telecomms for defense.Elaine
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 9:56 PM, artomoro9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.id wrote:
Emh... Enjoy long week end dulu ajalah. English nya ratu sima jadimesti sering2 buka kamus lagi. Santai dulu, biar lahir batin bisafresh lagi. Mikirin market mau kemana? Ntar2 sajalah. Btw: prof. JT,Saya "nonton" anda besok. Salam, artomoro (ho ho ho..)--- In obrolan-[EMAIL PROTECTED] com, "RATU SIMA" [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: "Pertanyannya apakah ada yg tahu MOTIFnya kenapa oil "diajak" turunterus?" Ha ha ha, LETKOL OENTOENG... Your question is so naive yet funny. The cost of tanker-rental is ABSOLUTELY EXPENSIVE, Lieutenant! So systematically, speculators have been selling and cashing outtheir hoarded stuff concomitant with their hidden
 political agenda. One thing that is beyond your prediction is the flow of this oil. The handover of this GODLY STUFF is done beyond the visible markets (underhand). Simply put, hoarders exchange with other hoarders. In this scenario, the oil price decline is done on step-by-stepbasis as the global economy is deteriorating. Most people think it as downturning of global market diminishingdemand, but it doesn't solely stand on that logic. Oil $25, Dow , S  P 500 666. AMITABHA RATU SIMA, THE UNITED KINGDOM OF KALINGGA, JAVA - - --+ ++ + + + +Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapuskecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.+ + + + ++ +Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MBAH ......KENAPA BANKING...??? == MBAH = The Eagle Eye

2008-12-04 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Mbah ikut ngajar di sort course sama Professor JT khan ?, kalo confirm saya 
akan ambil cuti dan booking pesawat ke JKT Mbah, SUER NIH.
Apalagi kalo Neng EL ikutmanstap man !




From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2008 4:19:32 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MBAH ..KENAPA BANKING...???


--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, pram [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. wrote:


 
 Embah jadi kapan IHSG bullish nih 
 

Liat engga GERAK TIPU pada penutupan ?.

IHSG yg seharusnya tutup diatas 1210 batal karena index sectoral
Infrastucture diKERJAIN supaya range kenaikan IHSG besok bisa
lebih gede.

http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwuptrend. htm

 


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Ooh etrading == Mgt etrading TULI

2008-12-03 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Pengalaman perfromance IPTO gmn, lebih baik ?
Etrading memang sdh hrs ditinggalin nih, pas disaat critical pasti nge-hang. 
Berkali2 complain tp sptnya management etrading uda TULI tuh, waktu potong fee 
cepat sekali, gantian provide services lelet dan pura2 TULI.
 
Krn, ane termasuk rajin ngasi income ke Etrading, jd fair aja kalo complaint 
kaya gini. Managementnya mungkin uda pd gak punya telinga dan pura2 BLIND tuh
 
Selain IPOT, ada rekomendasi lain ?




From: datasahamku [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2008 12:52:23 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Ooh etrading


saya sudah pindah dari etrading ke IPOTudah kesel banget deh
sering mati servernya... ..tp ga sy tutup accountnya, katanya januari
2009 mau pakai sistim baru.

bukan provokasi lho...

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Bambang Sulistio [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
wrote:

 Jadi pengen ganti sekuritas, kira - kira apa ya ??
 
 
 
 
  _ _ __
 From: Meiliany Halim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2008 10:36:32 AM
 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Ooh etrading
 
 ETRADING LAGU LAMA
 
 
 On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Anto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Kumat ... :(
 
 -anto


 


  

[obrolan-bandar] UNTR pls .... (to Pak JT)

2008-12-02 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
analysis TA buat UNTR dunk pak... koq di teken trus nih



  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] si bozz masih belum bangun == SUDAH SIANG BOZZ, BANGUUUNN

2008-12-02 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
  BANGUN BOZZ, WAKE UP EUY ..
 


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] UPGRADE YOUR TARGET NOW ==== P.OEN bisa share comment dg prediksi ini

2008-11-28 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Pak OEN, pls commentnya dunk
Wet or Dry will be usefull for us.

thx,





From: Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 2:20:59 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] UPGRADE YOUR TARGET NOW


FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 28TH, 2008

BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE, LET ME WARN ALL ANALYSTS, TRADERS AND INVESTORS IN THIS 
GROUP

UPGRADE YOUR COMMODITY  ENERGY STOCKS 12M TARGET AT LEAST 500% FROM TODAY'S 
POSITION

MOST OF YOU MADE MISTAKES EARLIER THIS YEAR, MAKE SURE YOU DON'T MAKE ANOTHER 
ONE TODAY

STOP TRADING


INVEST
TO ALL BEARISH MESSENGERS,. .

IT'S PAYBACK TIME

ELAINE SUI

ps: for reference, this was my downgrade call (April 8th, 08), when commodities 
hit all time highs:
http://finance. groups.yahoo. com/group/ obrolan-bandar/ message/74267

that followed my subtle warning for IDX crash (Dec 29th, 07), just couple days 
before it hit highest, and never came back:
http://finance. groups.yahoo. com/group/ obrolan-bandar/ message/52989

I'm not always right, but most of the time I get what I want. lol.
 


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] UPGRADE YOUR TARGET NOW ==== please appreciate the informer

2008-11-28 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Guys,
Tolong untuk tdk saling menghina ke personal side.
I believe, EL has background and integrity with her statement.
EL : Kalo boleh bisa share clue2nya knp ada recomendation yg aduhai ini 

thx,




From: Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 4:03:10 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] UPGRADE YOUR TARGET NOW


Your reply is as dumb as your name. A relative of the Talebans? ha ha 
ha... 

Elaine


On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 3:54 PM, abdulrahim abdulrahim abdul.rahman. [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] com wrote:

Nona Elaine yangkut berat juga soale
=)) =))


On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 9:51 AM, yuta.tiziano@ gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Elaine,

 I really like your statement. Pinpoint, sharp and very determine.

 Mind to disclose what justification behind? Inflow or any kind of?

 Rgds,

 Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry(R) 


  _ _ __
 From: Elaine Sui elainesui83@ gmail.com
 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:20:59 +0700
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] UPGRADE YOUR TARGET NOW

 FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 28TH, 2008

 BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE, LET ME WARN ALL ANALYSTS, TRADERS AND INVESTORS IN
 THIS GROUP

 UPGRADE YOUR COMMODITY  ENERGY STOCKS 12M TARGET AT LEAST 500% FROM TODAY'S
 POSITION

 MOST OF YOU MADE MISTAKES EARLIER THIS YEAR, MAKE SURE YOU DON'T MAKE
 ANOTHER ONE TODAY

 STOP TRADING

 INVEST

 TO ALL BEARISH MESSENGERS,. 

 IT'S PAYBACK TIME

 ELAINE SUI

 ps: for reference, this was my downgrade call (April 8th, 08), when
 commodities hit all time highs:
 http://finance. groups.yahoo. com/group/ obrolan-bandar/ message/74267

 that followed my subtle warning for IDX crash (Dec 29th, 07), just couple
 days before it hit highest, and never came back:
 http://finance. groups.yahoo. com/group/ obrolan-bandar/ message/52989

 I'm not always right, but most of the time I get what I want. lol.

 


  

[obrolan-bandar] BBRI : Resisten di brp ? (to P. JT)

2008-11-27 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Mohon analisa TAnya, resisten terkuat BBRI di harga berapa ?
 
thx,


  

[obrolan-bandar] Usul : Jagoan OB ngadain kursus BA TA

2008-11-27 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Mbah usul, gimana kalo jagoan2 OB (Mbah, P DE, JT dll) ngadain kursus singkat 
BA dan TA.
So pasti, karena gurunya adalah suhu2, maka fee/cost sort coursenya jg hrs 
sesuai.
Saya yakin warga OB banyak yg tertarik dg kursus ini, selain itu dpt memprkuat 
tali silaturahmi di antara warga OB.

Setuju ? , Jadi kapan Mbah kursusnya ? ,


  

[obrolan-bandar] BUMI : Salut (Mbah General)

2008-11-25 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Standing applaus..  buat suhu mbah dan general Arto.
Kala yg lain pd takut dg Bumi, mbah dan gen secara konsisten bilang akan naik
...and.. it's proved.

Keep sharing  posting your great view


  

FA BBRI ? .... Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBRI is cheaper than BBCA

2008-11-20 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
boeat yg jago FA
bisa diitungin pengaruh indoxxx ke BBRI.
Sptnya parah banget nih, dibanding BBCA jauh pisan euy.
 
thx





From: Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 4:25:25 AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBRI is cheaper than BBCA


wajarlah...

kalau lihat indover..wajar BBRI tewas... 


2008/11/20 ruzli indeksbei3000@ gmail.com

Iya, saya perhatikan BANGET.
Besok nambah lagi ah BBRI nya.

 
2008/11/20, y_dizz [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.id: 
Ada yang perhatikan?

Bingung saya, sampe monitornya saya refresh 2x, barangkali salah liat.

Market emang PIG, capee deh...



 


  

[obrolan-bandar] BBRI vs BBCA (to P. Artomoro)

2008-11-18 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
bbri msh valid ke 4025 ?,  
bbca bertahan di +, bbri ancur lebur, ada apa dg bbri, apa ketarik indover ?
 
thx,


  

[obrolan-bandar] Ada apa dg BBRI ???

2008-11-13 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
 


  

[obrolan-bandar] PTBA 3rb??? (To Ratu Shima)

2008-11-05 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Bisa share hints, napa PTBA bisa sampe mlorot ke 3 ribon ?
 
appreciate ur view,
 




From: RATU SIMA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2008 2:05:08 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BI rate 9,50; Mohon Pencerahan Suhu2 OB


Misi Om...
To me, temporary BI should keep 'the IDR Value' stronger than speculating on 
'Untimely Inflation'.
Smart money yesterday still revolved around the stock market, proving + 300.

Btw, we are sweetly awaiting BUMI to 1500. Where's the GUT INSTINCT of the 
SHARKS? 
Pls MIND GAMES won't work NOTHING... Or U are SIMPLY BROKE BROKE?

And I see PTBA is potentially reaching low 3000...

Ratu Sima,
The United Kingdom of KALINGGA.

  


  

TANGGUNG JAWAB ETRADING (Re: [obrolan-bandar] ETRADING NGADAT MANING ......!!!!!)

2008-11-02 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Management Etrading, mana tanggung jawabmu ?

kalo potong fee dan bunga margin, gak pernah lelet, gantian trader mo trading, 
macet 

Kalo anda punya tanggung jawab, anda harus compensate kerugian macetnya HOTS 
anda.
Caranya?
 Salah satunya dg gratisin (0%) untuk fee trading dlm 2-3 bln kedepan
any comment ?





From: Nyaham Dong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 3, 2008 10:27:54 AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ETRADING NGADAT MANING ..!


Telp dealing roomnya juga ga ada yg angkat. Kebanyakan order masuk kali ya?

On 11/3/08, Pahala Baringbing [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:
 perasaan setiap kali ada lonjakan dan perosotan tiba2 selalu hots mengalami
 problem
 DE JA VU


 2008/11/3 Juragan Cumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] com

 Yang bisa masuk cuma yang dah kebagian pentungan dari Oom DE

 Salam,
 Cumi, Cuma Mimpi

 2008/11/3 tora kopitorabika@ gmail.com kopitorabika% 40gmail.com :

  mbah bisa jalan normal ya hots nya?
  bisa order/porto?
 
  pake server brp mbah?
 
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: jsx_consultant
  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.. com
  Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 9:49 AM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ETRADING NGADAT MANING ..!
 
  Tapi suruh Etrading balikin IHSG +84 ke +0 dulu...
 
  Masa belanja di IHSG +6,6% ?
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
  obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups. com,
 kusumo k [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
  pake 13 ama im2 bisa jalan normal tuh ...
 
  2008/11/3 M|C michael.cupert@ ...
 
   esmartnya BNIS juga servernya ngadat katanya...
  
   2008/11/2 Juragan Cumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
  
   Same here,
   wap dan web bilang Database failed to respond
  
   Salam,
   Cumi, Cuma Mimpi
  
   2008/11/3 qasuaribo [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. qasuaribo%40yahoo. com:
  
9:35
selalu dan selalu jika index extreme bullish or bearish ..
  ampun
dahhh...
   
   
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[obrolan-bandar] Planned Agenda 2009 ....(To : pak Oen)

2008-10-23 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Kira2 maunya BOZZ BEZAR gmn pak Oen, sdh mulai corat-coret Planned Agenda 2009 ?
Ada bocorannya gak ?
Hijau merah kita anggap sbg informasi yg berguna.

thx


 


From: Provokator Saham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 11:30:50 AM
Subject: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Hallo Pak Artomoro ... pasukannya masih 
ada sisa ga?


--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Frendy wildwildwest84@ ...
wrote:

 pak Oen kenapa gak langsung omong lowest nya brp utk taun ini dan
taun depan
 mesti nunggu match dulu...hehehehe
 

Pengalaman bikin prediksi ke level 2000, orang kelamaan nunggunya.
Akhirnya saya buatstep by step...

Menunggu gimana komentar para Bull Warrior?
Sambil memperhatikan yg mulai kelihatan berkhianat trus bergabung dg
bear warrior...
Juga yg bermunculan jadi pahlawan kesiangan
Dan masih banyak alasan lainnya...

Oentoeng

(Not) Fortune Teller

 


  

[obrolan-bandar] P OEN : Bisa share view BEI ?

2008-10-16 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
P. Oen, bisa share view kira2 scenario BEI akan lari kemana, say, sampe 2Q2009 ?
Positif ato negative, tetap kita pandang sbg informasi yg bermanfaat.


thx,


  

Hasilnya gimana ?....Re: [obrolan-bandar] Pak Oen di #obrolanbandar, Minggu 12 Oct 2008, 19:00 WIB

2008-10-12 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Bisa share hasil chatting sama pak Oen ?. thx



- Original Message 
From: Rully [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 7:24:02 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Pak Oen di #obrolanbandar, Minggu 12 Oct 2008, 
19:00 WIB


 
server dalnet
room: #obrolanbandar
 
Sampai ketemu disana,
Rully
 
 
- Original Message - 
From: andiyanto dharmawan 
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 7:03 PM
Subject: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Pak Oen di #obrolanbandar, Minggu 12 Oct 2008, 
19:00 WIB

maaf roomnya apa ya?



- Pesan Asli 
Dari: Rully rullymainsaham@ gmail.com
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Terkirim: Minggu, 12 Oktober, 2008 17:00:04
Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Pak Oen di #obrolanbandar, Minggu 12 Oct 2008, 19:00 WIB


Dear OBers,
 
Saya baru saja mengirim pesan pendek kepada Pak Oen, mengundang beliau untuk 
hadir di room untuk memberikan sedikit informasi dan arahan. Semoga Pak Oen 
bisa hadir pada waktu tersebut. Silahkan kalau ingin ikut mendengarkan.
 
Salam,
Rully

Yahoo! sekarang memiliki alamat Email baru 
Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. 
br Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain!  


  

Mgt TRUBA ???...Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: apa trub korban short????,bisa jadi sih...

2008-09-24 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Integritas Management TRUBA, bisa di percaya nggak?. Jika bonafid spt ASII sih, 
gw Se-7, ini saham prospek banget.
Interim lapkeunya banyak yg sangsi tuh pak.
 
jst my 2 cents,



- Original Message 
From: t_bumi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 2:44:45 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: apa trub korban short,bisa jadi sih...


--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, dLaw lawyer_master@ ... wrote:

 Pak TBUMI memang ruar biasa,
 
 tapi sayang yah pak, kalau ada yang udah profit taking sekarang...
 
 
 
 sip : tbumi

Profit taking bisa terjadi disaham apa saja. Bukankah beberapa hari

lalu disaat harga sekitar Rp. 120 sdh kami posting bahwa TRUB 

boleh dibeli karena harganya sdh murah sekali dan juga 

fundamental bagus.

 


  

[obrolan-bandar] Cadangan Tin brp lama ?.....Re. TINS: It is FUNDAMENTAL, stupid !!!!

2008-09-15 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Mbah  dkk, punya info berapa lama (tahun) cadangan timah yg dipunyai TINS?
Faktor yg ckp krusial fundamental pertambangan adalah cadangan yg tersedia.

thx-


- Original Message 
From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 8:02:07 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] TINS: It is FUNDAMENTAL, stupid 


TINS Investor Call: It is FUNDAMENTAL, stupid !!!

Hari ini TINS diturunin -18,3%, Thanks Sinterklas.. ..

Bedah TINS (H1/2008)

- PRICE = 1250 (15/9/08)
- ROE = 62% (Laba bersih = 62% x Modal sendiri)
- ROA = 32% (Laba bersih = 32% x Total Asset)
- EPS = 221/6 bln (442 setahun)
- Deviden = 300 (25% dari harga TINS hari ini)
- PER = 2,83 (Harga TINS = 2,83 X Laba bersih)
- COP = 1,63 (Harga TINS = 1,63 X Laba operasi)
- Net profit growth = 52%

Ini saham SUDAH UNDERVALUE banget, kumpulin PELAN PELAN
karena masih ada kemungkin SERANGAN LANJUTAN...

VALUE STOCK seperti INI, kejadiannya hanya terjadi 5 ampe 10
tahun sekali. Daripada bikin usaha sendiri dijaman susah
begini, mending jadi Investor TINS dengan:

- Target keuntungan minimal 100% setahun.

http://www.investda ta.net/QTTINS. TXT

Note:
Bukan untuk Trading, hanya untuk INVEST karena IHSG masih
cenderung TURUN...

 


  

[obrolan-bandar] THANKS TO P.OENTOENG.....Gelar Pendekar Tangan Kosong .....Re: MITOS si BEJO (The Untold Story)

2008-09-14 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Dari pengalaman selama ini, personally sy melihat p.entoeng tdk bermaksud 
negative thd warga OB, bahkan hints2nya kemana market dlm wktu ke dpn dpt 
menjadi pertimbangan bg warga OB.

Memang terkadang time frame dari terawangannya yg tdk bisa terdeteksi, kadang 
ordenya mingguan, kadang sampe bulanan, tapi bisa dibilang kemungkinan besar 
akan terjadi. In my view, inputan P.OEN menjadi warna tersendiri di waroeng 
mbah ini.
Personally, if i could wish, stay tune in this waraoeng pak, share anything you 
would, banyak wong cilik yg manjdi slilitannya big Bozz di jsx ini, your info 
would minimize it.
 
 
-investorijo


  

TO EL: Mana penjelasannya ??? Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Alert: Euro lagi rebound kencang ke 1,41

2008-09-12 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
EL : Mana penjelasannya?, knp hari ini spt kesetanan SORT SELLINGnya.
Your word is BOND or GARBAGE 

The truth is Out there ...



- Original Message 
From: Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 6:20:40 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Alert: Euro lagi rebound kencang ke 1,41


Tidak bisa Rei, fundamentally banyak berubah target Elaine and commodity sudah 
crash.  I'm really sorry but I think we have to wait for another year. Ini ada 
repurchase scandal Bakrie Group yang rusak our target + Lehman's. Elaine salah 
juga janji terlalu gampang ya :( terlalu semangat...


Elaine


On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com wrote:

http://finance. groups.yahoo. com/group/ obrolan-bandar/ message/67167
 
This year(obviously NOT this month) you'll see a slow yet unstoppable 1000+ 
points rallythat could last for months. Please print this email and stick it on 
the wall. I can guarantee you IF you can sucessfully pick ANY bluechips at the 
bottom, at the end of this year you can get a filthy 50% gain to say the least, 
100% if you're good. Up to 400% if you're that lucky.
 
We'll see if the Genie really has magic power...
:-)
 
On 9/12/08, abdulrahim abdulrahim abdul.rahman. [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: 
Coba wish nya ditempel di dinding aja pak REI. Sekali2 kirim ke milis,
kali2 aja nona Elaine lupa atau gimana

On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com wrote:
 Sudah kepalang tanggung juga pak, mau jual sdh kerendahan walau warning pak
 Oen mengerikan.. .kiamat kah den Bei? Maybe...masa tujuan bozz hancurin
 periuk nasi sendiri? Hard to believe...
 Lagian, saya kan dikasih wish sama Genie Elaine, dan saya minta 1000 points
 rally THIS YEAR as PROMISED! :D
 nagih.co.id


 On 9/12/08, kangduren [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:

 isu badai ini memang aneh, kalo dilihat sih memang besar, tapi harga
 oil masih stagnan. Thx mas Kabu infonya, saya masih HOLD saham juga,
 cuma udah ga trading lagi, wait n see.

 salam

 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Kabu Nusi [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. 
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Hurricane Ike Heads for Texas Coast; Thousands Flee
 

 http://www.bloomber g.com/apps/ news?pid= 
 20601087sid=ax4kDoAg6pfIrefer=home
 
 
  Texas Coast
  Ike's center was 265 miles southeast of Galveston and moving
  west-northwest at 13 mph. Because of its wide diameter, Ike will
  be felt as a ``major hurricane'' along the Texas coast long
  before landfall, which is forecast for near Galveston late today
  or early tomorrow.
  The storm left more than 70 people dead in Haiti and killed
  four in Cuba as it swept through Caribbean earlier this week.
  The U.S. weather center's forecasters said Ike may
  strengthen to at least Category 3 intensity, meaning sustained
  winds of at least 111 mph, before it makes landfall. Other
  forecasters predict Ike may become a Category 4 storm, the
  second-strongest on the five-step Saffir-Simpson scale, packing
  winds from 131 to 155 mph.
  Hurricane-force winds extend as far as 120 miles from Ike's
  center, while tropical-storm force winds of at least 39 mph
  extend out 275 miles, according to the hurricane center.
  Larger Than Katrina
  Ike's winds cover an area larger than that of Katrina, the
  storm that devastated New Orleans in 2005, said Jeff Masters,
  director of meteorology at private forecaster Weather Underground
  Inc.
  ``The total amount of energy is more powerful than Katrina,
  so we could be seeing a storm surge that could rival Katrina,''
  Masters said yesterday. Ike is so big ``the location doesn't
  matter much. It is going to inundate a huge part of the Texas
  coast.''
  President George W. Bush declared an emergency for Texas,
  his home state. As many as 7,500 Texas National Guard members are
  on standby.
  Houston's population is 2.2 million, making it the fourth-
  biggest U.S. city, according to the U.S. Census Bureau, and its
  metropolitan area, with a population of 5.6 million, is the
  sixth-largest in the U.S.
  ``It is a massive storm. It is impacting in terms of its
  scope 40 percent of the Gulf,'' Michael Chertoff, secretary of
  homeland security, said in a conference call from Washington.
  ``The most important message I can send is: Do not take this
  storm lightly. This is not a storm to gamble with. It is large
  and powerful and carries a lot of water with it.''
  Refining Capacity
  About 12 percent of U.S. refining capacity is being shut
  before Ike makes landfall. The Gulf coast region is home to 26
  percent of U.S. oil production.
  The storm has shut 97 percent of Gulf oil production and 93
  percent of natural gas output, the Minerals Management Service
  said yesterday.
  Crude oil for October delivery rose as much as $1.42, or 1.4
  percent, to $102.29 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange.
  It was at $102.12 a barrel at 8:54 a.m. in London. Prices are up
  28 percent from a year ago.
 
 
 
 
  --- On 

[obrolan-bandar] To. P.OEN EL : YG JELAS2 SAJALAH

2008-09-11 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Dear P.Oen  EL

Yg jelas2 sajalah, apakah den BEI mau di bawa ke 14xx / 13xx taun ini, tepatnya 
sekitar NOV ?
Apa rally +1000pts within a month masih valid utk tahn ini, soalnya sdh 
ditempel di tembok dan dilaminating+ pigura nih.

Rugi sdh gak keitung, CL udah berkali2, jika memang stone age itu tahun 13xx, 
saya mau CL lg lalu minggat dan balik tahun depan.


Appreciate your sharing n honesty,


  

[obrolan-bandar] Saham juara ! ?

2008-09-10 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
To seniors,
 
Apa saham yg saat ini gak turun atau naik dikit, dipastikan akan jd juara 
sprint wkt rally, spt BMRI dan BDMN ?.
Atau BD nya lagi baekan aja jagain tuh barang ?
 
Cheerz


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Kuning2 ngambang di BUMI,wajib baca

2008-09-10 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
So, mending kita hold dulu n wait di 16xx, lalu copet BUMI?,
kira2 lowestnya BUMI berapa prend ?



- Original Message 
From: Mr.Daniel Benningthon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: oBrolan bandar obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 10:02:33 AM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Kuning2 ngambang di BUMI,wajib baca


helo Bro...salah jwb nya bener adalah..

pertanyaan sebelum nya...

Kuning-Kuning ngambang di BUMi apa hayo.?

kuning-kuning ngambang di BUMI,yg bener adalah..
ada emas yg ngambang  terselip di antara Batubara BUMI...
artinyawalaupun skrg BUMI hancurrr lebu..
masih ada emas untuk batu bara menjadi kinclonkkk kembali seperti emas, emas 
tersebut akan di angkat  diambil...jadi skrg memang bursa crash...namun bursa 
crash bisa brikan return cpt...bahkan 100% dlm sekejap...tapi blom ada 
katalis'nya buat bursa kita...

skrg yg berlaku hukum fisika...
benda jatuh dari suatu tempat...,maka akan jadi lbh cepat jatuh'nya..sampai dia 
ke bawah..dan ada membal nya sedikit..

tetapi kalo di padukan hukum fisika dgn Analisa
skrg bursa jatuh dari support nya..di 2035..dia sudah jatuh dari suatu 
tempat'nya makanya dia jatuh cpt..dan semakin lbh cepat sekali dia jatuhnya.
tetapi ketika dia jatuh sampai bottom dia ada sedikit membal..namun kalo membal 
tersebut tembus SmallPost resis nya..dia membentuk pattern...atinya bandar siap 
Tebus kejatuhan SAHAM2 tersebutt.


skrg masih bisa jatuh lagi karena belum sampai bottom
kalo analisis saya bisa ke 1600-1700


Bursa crash:
di saat bursa crash smpai titik bottom'nya,pasti naik kembalikarena bandar 
tebus kejatuhan tersebut  ter'tawa2 untuk mereka yg terjebak dlm crash nya 
market...biasa nya si LOKAL yg tertipu^ ^


GW BILANG APA.CUTLOSS- CUTLOSS.. ..... ..GW UDAH BILANG DARI IDX 2300 
SKRG SI UDAH TELAT!!!
RECOMENT: JGN PANIK,..TETAPI HOLD  SPK.BUY


SUDAH TERBUKTI DARI PULUHAN BAHKAN DARI RATUSAN TAHUN...DI SAAT BURSA CRASH 
KITA BISA DPT UNTUNG 100% DLM SEKEJAP...^^





 


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Kuning2 ngambang di BUMI,wajib baca

2008-09-10 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
So, mending kita hold dulu n wait di 16xx, lalu copet BUMI?,
kira2 lowestnya BUMI berapa prend ?



- Original Message 
From: Mr.Daniel Benningthon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: oBrolan bandar obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 10:02:33 AM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Kuning2 ngambang di BUMI,wajib baca


helo Bro...salah jwb nya bener adalah..

pertanyaan sebelum nya...

Kuning-Kuning ngambang di BUMi apa hayo.?

kuning-kuning ngambang di BUMI,yg bener adalah..
ada emas yg ngambang  terselip di antara Batubara BUMI...
artinyawalaupun skrg BUMI hancurrr lebu..
masih ada emas untuk batu bara menjadi kinclonkkk kembali seperti emas, emas 
tersebut akan di angkat  diambil...jadi skrg memang bursa crash...namun bursa 
crash bisa brikan return cpt...bahkan 100% dlm sekejap...tapi blom ada 
katalis'nya buat bursa kita...

skrg yg berlaku hukum fisika...
benda jatuh dari suatu tempat...,maka akan jadi lbh cepat jatuh'nya..sampai dia 
ke bawah..dan ada membal nya sedikit..

tetapi kalo di padukan hukum fisika dgn Analisa
skrg bursa jatuh dari support nya..di 2035..dia sudah jatuh dari suatu 
tempat'nya makanya dia jatuh cpt..dan semakin lbh cepat sekali dia jatuhnya.
tetapi ketika dia jatuh sampai bottom dia ada sedikit membal..namun kalo membal 
tersebut tembus SmallPost resis nya..dia membentuk pattern...atinya bandar siap 
Tebus kejatuhan SAHAM2 tersebutt.


skrg masih bisa jatuh lagi karena belum sampai bottom
kalo analisis saya bisa ke 1600-1700


Bursa crash:
di saat bursa crash smpai titik bottom'nya,pasti naik kembalikarena bandar 
tebus kejatuhan tersebut  ter'tawa2 untuk mereka yg terjebak dlm crash nya 
market...biasa nya si LOKAL yg tertipu^ ^


GW BILANG APA.CUTLOSS- CUTLOSS.. ..... ..GW UDAH BILANG DARI IDX 2300 
SKRG SI UDAH TELAT!!!
RECOMENT: JGN PANIK,..TETAPI HOLD  SPK.BUY


SUDAH TERBUKTI DARI PULUHAN BAHKAN DARI RATUSAN TAHUN...DI SAAT BURSA CRASH 
KITA BISA DPT UNTUNG 100% DLM SEKEJAP...^^





 


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] LAP KEU TRUB ? (TRUB mau sampe ke mana ya?

2008-08-14 Terurut Topik Dvc Mm
Ada yg punya lapkue TRUB?, Bisa dishare fren?



- Original Message 
From: Wachjudi, Ferry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 1:46:30 PM
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] TRUB mau sampe ke mana ya?


Heran……heran….heran.
Rupanya di BEI jangan 2 sahamnya  gak boleh naik…..mis: ARTI naik 70% disuspen.
Tapi TRUB turun dari 900 ke 400an gak disuspen.
 
From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
ps.com] On Behalf Of tora
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 12:42 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] TRUB mau sampe ke mana ya?
 
 
mau ke dasar...sar. ..sar
hehehe temen gw ada tuh yg punya di harga 200 (IPO)
mungkin dia aja yg masih bisa senyum :)
kira-kira apa pengaruh RI nanti ya...
 
 
- Original Message - 
From:iwan jalal 
To:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
Sent:Thursday, August 14, 2008 11:56 AM
Subject:[obrolan-bandar] TRUB mau sampe ke mana ya?
 
bosbos.. .yang punya TRUB, dia mau ke mana itu kok REMnya blong?
 

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