Re: [obrolan-bandar] TOGE2 pada grafik REGIONAL (1293)

2006-06-21 Terurut Topik Dhany S





gaa2 DJ naik 104 ya mbah?


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  From: 
  jsx_consultant 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 9:15 
  AM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] TOGE2 pada 
  grafik REGIONAL (1293)
  
  
  TOGE2 pada grafik REGIONAL (1293)Coba perhatikan TOGE TOGE yang 
  tumbuh SUBUR sesudah BADAIAlangkah indahnya TOGE TOGE 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: We are NOTHING dihadapanNYA

2006-06-15 Terurut Topik Dhany S





tanda tanda up trend gitu bos?


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  up_trends 
  
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:10 
  PM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: We are 
  NOTHING dihadapanNYA
  
  
  gap down kemarin ditutup oleh YU begitu cepatnya. bahkan terlalu cepat. 
  now gap sudah ketutup 2 kali hm tanda tanda kah--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, 
  "jsx_consultant" jsx-[EMAIL PROTECTED].. wrote: 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, 
  "Hotma Sirait"  hotma.sirait@ wrote:  
   senior embah enggak salah kan prediksinya naik +325 dalam 50 hari 
   dari 3375   ke 3700. karena embah bacanya baru pagi ini 
  (baru 1 hari) berarti  kan masih   ada 50-1=49 hari lagi 
  kan mbah?  YUP.. SUHU embah mana bisa SALAH Dia 
  yang MEMPREDIKSIKAN kenaikan BUMI secara SPEKTAKULER dan TERBUKTI 
  !!!  HE IS A MAESTRO !!!
- Original Message -   From: 
  "jsx_consultant" jsx-consultant@  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 10:54 PM  Subject: 
  [obrolan-bandar] We are NOTHING dihadapanNYA
 We are NOTHING dihadapanNYA
 Embah mau mengajak KITA semua untuk MEMIKIR ULANG 
  posisi   kita dibursa. Kita cuman bisa BERUSAHA MENGANALISA 
  tapi   semuanya itu DIA yang menentukan.  
 Pagi ini embah membaca PREDIKSI dari seorang SENIOR 
  yang   memprediksikan PTBA akan naik +325 dalam 50 hari 
  dari   3375 ke 3700. Tapi kenyataanya dalam SEKEJAP 
  PTBA   dibikin ke 3050 (detik ini) atau turun -325 
  dalam   BEBERAPA JAM doang !!!
   Ini menunjukan BETAPA berkuasanya PARA BB    
Tulisan ini TIDAK untuk mendiscreditkan orang tsb, karena 
SENIOR tsb embah anggap sebagai SUHU embah sampai detik INI 
  !!! Dan tulisan ini bukan untuk MENAKUT 
  NAKUTI orang agar tidak   menulis. Embah juga AKAN terus 
  menulis TERLEPAS dari hasilnya   SALAH atau TIDAK 
  Hormat embah buat para SUHU embah ...  
 ... embah 
   
  
  
   
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: We are NOTHING dihadapanNYA

2006-06-15 Terurut Topik Dhany S





iya...
prediksinya sekarang, kemudian nuggu konfirmnya 3 
hari kemudian kan..


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  up_trends 
  
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:18 
  PM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: We are 
  NOTHING dihadapanNYA
  
  
  we shall see it next 3 days--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, 
  "Dhany S" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tanda tanda up trend gitu 
  bos?  - Original Message -  From: up_trends 
   To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:10 PM Subject: 
  [obrolan-bandar] Re: We are NOTHING dihadapanNYA   gap 
  down kemarin ditutup oleh YU begitu cepatnya. bahkan terlalu  cepat. 
  now gap sudah ketutup 2 kali hm tanda tanda kah  --- 
  In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, 
  "jsx_consultant" jsx- consultant@ wrote:  
   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, 
  "Hotma Sirait"   hotma.sirait@ wrote:  
 senior embah enggak salah kan prediksinya naik +325 
  dalam 50 hari   dari 3375ke 3700. karena 
  embah bacanya baru pagi ini (baru 1 hari) berarti   kan masih 
 ada 50-1=49 hari lagi kan mbah?
  YUP.. SUHU embah mana bisa SALAH  Dia yang MEMPREDIKSIKAN 
  kenaikan BUMI secara SPEKTAKULER dan  TERBUKTI !!!  
HE IS A MAESTRO !!!  
  - Original Message -From: 
  "jsx_consultant" jsx-consultant@   To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 10:54 PM   Subject: 
  [obrolan-bandar] We are NOTHING dihadapanNYA 
   We are NOTHING dihadapanNYA   
 Embah mau mengajak KITA 
  semua untuk MEMIKIR ULANG posisikita dibursa. Kita 
  cuman bisa BERUSAHA MENGANALISA tapisemuanya itu DIA 
  yang menentukan.   Pagi ini embah 
  membaca PREDIKSI dari seorang SENIOR yang
  memprediksikan PTBA akan naik +325 dalam 50 hari dari
  3375 ke 3700. Tapi kenyataanya dalam SEKEJAP PTBA
  dibikin ke 3050 (detik ini) atau turun -325 dalam
  BEBERAPA JAM doang !!!   Ini 
  menunjukan BETAPA berkuasanya PARA BB  
Tulisan ini TIDAK untuk mendiscreditkan orang tsb, karena 
 SENIOR tsb embah anggap sebagai SUHU embah sampai detik INI 
  !!!   Dan tulisan ini bukan untuk 
  MENAKUT NAKUTI orang agar tidakmenulis. Embah juga 
  AKAN terus menulis TERLEPAS dari hasilnyaSALAH 
  atau TIDAK   Hormat embah buat 
  para SUHU embah ...   ... 
embah
 
   
   
   

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Dow Jones Terbang!

2006-06-15 Terurut Topik Dhany S





Nggak perlu digantungkan...
kalo bener rebound dan udah penuh muatan kayak 
embah sih udah tutup mata aja :)



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Halim Mintareja 
  
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 7:54 AM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Dow 
  Jones Terbang!
  
  
  
  Moga-moga hari ini semua internet dari speedy 
  sampai starone jalan bagus.
  
  Nyawa daku betul-betul digantungkan di sana hari 
  ini
  
- Original Message - 
From: jsx_consultant 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 7:16 
AM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Dow Jones 
Terbang!


Percaya ENGGA percaya, Bursa INDIA yang terbang 6,5% sehari udah jadi 
TANDA ALAM. Koneksi INTERNET yang PUTUS PUTUS jugamemberi TANDA ALAM 
tambahan bahwa kemaren sore adalahSAAT BUYING TIME. Jogjokan BB terhadap 
PTBA juga mengenapkanDUGAAN embah bahwa si BOZZ lagi NAKUT NAKUTI. 
Terlihat darigayanya NAEKIN IHSG pada pagi hampir +30 dan 
NGANCURINIHSG saat RUPIAH menguat terhadap usd...INilah yang 
mebuat embah BELANJA BORONGAN kemaren sore di BEJDITENGAH TENGAH koneksi 
internet yang PALING PARAH yangpernah embah alami (TANDA ALAM yg bawa 
hokie)--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, 
Odink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NEW YORK, June 15 
(Reuters) - U.S. stocks jumped on Thursday as Federal  Reserve 
Chairman Ben Bernanke said inflation expectations have fallen,  
while strong earnings from investment bank Bear Stearns Cos. (BSC.N: 
 Quote, Profile, Research) boosted the financial 
sector..
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Pejantan Tangguh

2006-06-14 Terurut Topik Dhany S





dj closing positif, dan naik 100 point... berimbas 
ke regional nggak yah?


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  oentoeng_q 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 9:17 
  AM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Pejantan 
  Tangguh
  
  
  Saya lihat setelah " Tsunami, Letusan Gunung, Gempa, Hujan, Panas,…" 
  menerpa BEJ muncul beberapa saham kategori "Pejantan 
  Tangguh".Prioritas Utama:TLKM, PGAS, PTBA, BBRI, BBCAPrioritas 
  berikutnya:UNTR, AALI, BLTA, APOL, APEX, PJAA, KLBF, BNGA, 
  UNSP….Mungkin bisa dipertimbangkan…Berdasar Fibonacci 61,8% juga 
  BAGUS……Yang lain juga boleh…..Good LuckDisclaimer :The information contained in this communication is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and others authorized to receive it. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Unless otherwise specifically stated by the sender, any documents or views presented are solely those of the sender and do not constitute official documents or views of PT Bank Niaga Tbk. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by responding to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and then delete it from your system. PT Bank Niaga Tbk is neither liable for the proper and complete transmission of the information contained in this communication nor for any delay in its receipt.
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Antam

2006-06-13 Terurut Topik Dhany S





DJ ngedrop lagi...
keseret banjir lagi gak ya?



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Karno Edy 
  
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 8:33 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: 
  Antam
  
  
  
  SUPERBOZZ belum nongol (dibandingkan 
  kemarin)
  
  http://finance.yahoo.com/intlindices?e=asia
  
  Ntar malem data CPI keluar...semoga mengakhiri 
  ketidakpastian yg berlarut-larut.
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BLTA...comment for Mr. Oentoeng

2006-06-13 Terurut Topik Dhany S





blta langsung mines juga.
mau kemana neeehhh?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  oentoeng_q 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 8:43 
  AM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: 
  BLTA...comment for Mr. Oentoeng
  
  
  Yang jelas banyak hal yang bisa diceritakan apalagi ttg BLTA...Hanya 
  keterbatasan "waktu dan ruang" saja saya cuman mengemukakan EKOR, BADAN, 
  TELINGA, atau HIDUNG dll. ala Si BUTA...cerita dari India.Saya juga 
  ikut senang kalau bisa MENGHIBUR ibu dalam kondisi MENGENASKAN seperti 
  sekarang.Tanggapan saya:- Saham akan KEBAL kalau BANDAR MENGUASAI 
  PERMAINAN bu...- BD pasti sudah punya "SANGU" (bekal) sebelum 
  MENGGORENG.Sama seperti ibu kalau mau masak di dapur; khan BELANJA dulu 
  segala KEPERLUAN. Bisa Bumbu, kubis, wortel, minyak goreng 
  dll...Bahkan Gas Elpiji kalau habis harus dibelikan duluYa nggak 
  BOZZ...?Masalah KEPENTINGAN semua sama bu...hanya maunya OENTOENG bukan 
  BOENTOENG! Siapapun yang berkepentingan...Mungkin angin segar 
  muncul dlm kaitan Listing di SGX...Bagi saya "angin neraka" muncul kalau 
  proses Buy Back DIMULAITidak tahu lagi...kalau sejarah TIDAK 
  BERULANG?Kita tunggu saja kapan SUSPENDnya DIBUKA...? Moga-moga 
  tebakan saya terbukti supaya EVERYONE GOING TO BE HAPPY--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, 
  Shinta Christiana shinta_christiana@... 
  wrote: Saya senang ada yang membahas saham yang saya miliki 
  (BLTA), krn dari kemarin yg dibahas banyakan PTBA dan saya agak bingung 
  kenapa saham ini terus2an disuspend, tapi senang juga karena ga ikut2an 
  turun, krn dlm situasi BEARISH, ga ada saham yg kebal. Tetapi dari 
  sudut kepentingan BD kan ga bisa ngumpulin saham ini kalo harga ga 
  dijatuhkan, sementara dari kepentingan emiten jelas ga pengen sahamnya 
  jatuh, jadi kalo saya liat kepentingan BD bertentangan dgn kepentingan 
  emiten, tapi yg punya kuasa disini kan emiten, gimana mas Oentoeng bener 
  ga analisa newbie ini ? Tapi yg jelas saya pengen waktu suspend dibuka 
  saham ini langsung naik, mengikuti bluechip yg lain, minimal saya ga rugi 
  waktu mikirin saham2 yg turun terus. BLTA ini menurut saya cukup bagus 
  jadi akan saya hold terus malah kalo ada duit mau nambah lagi. 
TANDA ALAM…..(When The Bell Ringing?) Posted by: 
  "oentoeng_q" [EMAIL PROTECTED].. oentoeng_q Date: Mon Jun 12, 2006 
  10:45 pm (PDT)  Dalam kondisi begini banyak orang bilang saham 
  yang paling BAGUS  adalah BLTA?  Saya bilang BISA 
  JADI… tetapi apakah TINDAKANNYA BOLEH DITIRU..?  
  Alasannya: 1.Beberapa saat lalu saya bilang kalau BLTA sudah RUNNING 
  berarti  MARKET akan Uptrend cenderung RALLY… 2.Beberapa saat 
  yang lalu…LEBIH LAMA…banyak yang mengamati, kalau  BLTA sudah TURUN 
  berarti MARKET sudah mulai BERAKHIR. 3.Kalau saat ini MARKET mulai 
  BEARISH (CRASH?)  langsung "DIANTISIPASI" oleh BLTA dengan 
  me-SUSPEND-kan DIRI…. Apapun alasannya: Walaupun semua tahu akan 
  Listing di Singapore…? Apakah itu SUDAH MEMADAI dijadikan PEMBENARAN 
  sebagai tindakan  PENYELAMATAN DIRI yang diambil BLTA? 
  Hehehe…..  Kesempatan ini saya bukannya mau MENYALAHKAN BLTA, 
  tapi hanya ingin  mengajak berpikir terhadap TANDA ALAM satu 
  ini! Dari sudut pandang Trader, Investor…..VERY GOOD…wong harga tidak 
   TERSERET TURUN. Bagi Margin Trader…PUSING 7 keliling….salah 
  sendiri beli pake  NGUTANG!?  Pelajaran dari sini 
  adalah Kita bisa belajar dari PERGERAKAN BLTA  untuk MEMPREDIKSI…Where 
  The Market is Going On? Kemarin sebenarnya BLTA mau dicabut 
  suspendnya..tapi MUNDUR LAGI! Memang kayak BELUT emiten satu 
  ini… Jelasnya BLTA adalah salah satu saham yang DIKENDALIKAN oleh BD 
   maupun EMITEN secara KETAT. Positifnya kok PINTER BANGET tahu 
  MARKET mo kayak gini?  Apakah di sini berada sekumpulan PROFESSIONAL 
  TRADER?INTERNATIONAL  TRADER??  Kita tebak2an aja 
  (Nggak tahu kapan): Tebakan saya BLTA pasti  DICABUT SUSPENDnya waktu 
  MARKET….. "Terang Benderang"….. mau NAIK!  So….DIBUKA langsung JUMP 
  UP!?  Saya pernah KHILAF terlalu memperhatikan dia sebagai 
  "Lonceng  Kematian" ternyata masih banyak Lonceng dan Tanda yang 
  lain….. Salah tidak apa2 toh saya masih bisa bertahan di 
  Bursa…..  Any comment?
 Shinta 
  Christiana Puspitasari, SH http://www.indonext.com/cgi-bin/comp.pl?ID=61954 
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BLTA...comment for Mr. Oentoeng

2006-06-13 Terurut Topik Dhany S





Oleh : Kafi Kurnia ([EMAIL PROTECTED])TITIK terendah, atau 
yang populer disebut "the lowest point", seringkali menjadi posisi yang 
dihindari banyak orang. Secara strategis tidak akan menguntungkan. 
Tetapi bukan berarti tidak bisa dimanfaatkan. Paul Arden, penulis buku 
kontroversial, It's not How Good You Are, It's How Good You Want to be, 
menulis bahwa titik terendah seringkali menjadi posisi terbaik untuk 
beriklan.Misalnya saja Bali saat ini. Sejak peristiwa bom kedua di 
Jimbaran, Bali secara perlahan dan pasti terasa semakin sepi. Hampir semua 
industri pariwisata berteriak karena bisnis menurun secara 
drastis.Tingkat hunian hotel banyak yang hanya di bawah 20%.Hal itu 
saya rasakan ketika mengunjungi Bali, minggu lalu. Ketika tiba di depan 
hotel, saya disambut secara ramah dan luar biasa. Guest relations 
hotel malah memberikan pelayanan istimewa. Kamar hotel saya 
di-"upgrade" ke tingkat yang lebih mewah. Tapi, ketika esoknya 
membayar biaya kamar, saya kaget bukan main. Harganya cuma Rp 600.000 
nett, sudah termasuk pajak dan makan pagi. Murah sekali. Ini harga 50% 
dari biasanya. Saya kaget bukan main.Selama di Bali, saya sempat 
jalan-jalan. Biasanya saya menyewa mobil dan sopir seharga Rp 350.000 untuk 
10 jam. Kali ini, karena sepi luar biasa, sang sopir pasrah dan tidak 
menentukan tarif. Menurut pegawai hotel, tarif mereka turun hingga Rp 
250.000. Ketika berjalan-jalan, saya sempat kecewa, beberapa toko favorit 
saya untuk berbelanja ternyata tutup. Mereka bangkrut karena sepi 
pengunjung.Restoran-restoran juga mengalami hal yang sama. Uniknya, 
karena situasi sepi ini, kualitas pelayanan naik tajam. Hal ini saya rasakan 
ketika makan di restoran dan berbelanja. Saya mendapat pelayanan khusus. 
Lebih diperhatikan. Saya merasa tersanjung sekali. Tiba-tiba saya 
merasakan kenikmatan yang ekstra dan berlebih, tetapi uang yang saya 
keluarkan justru lebih sedikit. Kesimpulannya, kalau Anda ingin menikmati 
Bali, inilah saat yang paling baik. Murah, sepi, tetapi Anda bisa menikmati 
pelayanan lebih baik.Sepulang dari Bali, saya kirim e-mail ke 
teman-teman saya yang doyan pelesir ke Bali, satu di Milan, satu di Amerika, 
dan satu lagi di Singapura. Berkat cerita saya yang menggiurkan, akhirnya 
mereka semua langsung ingin berlibur di Bali bulan depan. Peristiwa ini 
menampar imajinasi saya. Andaikata pemerintah memanfaatkan nasihat Paul 
Arden, dan mempromosikan Bali di titik terendah ini, maka situasi Bali 
justru akan cepat pulih. Sayangnya, pemerintah lebih kelihatan kehilangan 
akal.Pak Bob Sadino, pemilik pasar swalayan terkenal Kem Chicks, pernah 
bercerita kepada saya. Katanya, harga cabe di pasar seringkali tidak stabil. 
Pasar sering mengeluh banyak pasokan, dan harga cabe jatuh. Tidak jarang 
pasokan menjadi terlampau banyak, dan cabe membusuk. Menurut pengamatan Pak 
Bob Sadino, hal ini terjadi karena petani gagal memanfaatkan titik 
terendah.Umumnya petani bergairah ikut menanam cabe ketika harganya 
sedang naik karena pasokan rendah. Malah petani tidak jarang berebut menanam 
cabe ketika harga cabe sedang berada di titik tertinggi. Akibatnya, ketika 
mereka rame-rame panen, pasokan cabe berlimpah, dan harga cabe mau tak mau 
ambruk. Andai kata mereka jeli, justru mereka harus menanam cabe pada saat 
cabe berada di titik harga terendah. Ketika panen, harga cabe akan berada di 
titik tinggi karena pasokan kurang.Teori Pak Bob Sadino ini saya 
ceritakan kepada sejumlah perternak unggas, minggu lalu, dalam serangkaian 
seminar marketing yang disponsori Asosiasi Pemasaran Kacang Kedelai dari 
Amerika. Peternak unggas mengeluhkan hal yang sama bahwa mereka berada pada 
situasi yang SOS, yaitu titik terendah karena flu burung. Saya justru 
memotivasi mereka dengan memanfaatkan studi kasus Bali dan petani cabe. Saya 
anjurkan mereka menjadi aktivis flu burung, dan memanfaatkan situasi ini 
untuk mempromosikan perusahaan mereka.Teori Paul Arden memang ampuh. 
Titik terendah bukanlah situasi yang ideal. Tetapi titik terendah punya 
peluang yang unik dimanfaatkan. Yaitu situasi kondusif untuk berpromosi. 
Dosen komunikasi saya pernah memberikan nasihat unik. Menurut beliau, 
bayangkan di sebuah ruangan yang penuh sesak dengan orang. Dan semua orang 
berbicara hiruk-pikuk. Ruangan akan sangat ribut, dan saat itu proses 
komunikasi akan sangat sulit karena kita harus bicara keras-keras. Menguras 
energi dan membuat tenggorokan lecet.Tapi, sebaliknya, kalau pada titik 
terendah, ketika semua orang diam. Lalu hanya satu orang berbicara. Mungkin 
orang itu cukup berbicara pelan saja, tapi semua orang akan mendengar dan 
menyimak. Semua atensi ditujukan pada pembicara. Komunikasi berjalan 
lancar.Jadi, kalau Anda berada di titik terendah, jangan putus asa. 
Manfaatkan!-- Salam, 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  oentoeng_q 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 8:43 
  AM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: 
  BLTA...comment for Mr. Oentoeng
  
  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Traders 40 Bio..? PUZZLES b egin. (PTBA JANGAN DIJUAL)

2006-06-12 Terurut Topik Dhany S





Boleh jual boss
Biar saya tampung dikit dibawah... boleh dong bagi2 
dikit :)


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  EKA 
  SUWANDANA 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 1:41 PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Traders 
  40 Bio….? PUZZLES begin. (PTBA JANGAN DIJUAL)
  
  
  
  JANGAN JUAL PTBA. Kemarin jatuh karena market jatuh, mungkin besok juga 
  koreksitapi target kejauhan! 
  Dulu saya bilang target 7000 sekarang yah...relaistis aja 5500. Costnya 
  naik. Tapi masih jauh! 
  HOOLD PTBA!Deddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

SO? nasi sudah menjadi bubur, PTBA sudah makin subur harganya. sudah 
diatas 3rebu, so SELL???:)--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, 
"oentoeng_q" oentoeng_q@... wrote: Saya mau 
jalan2 ke Mall dulu... Posting ini mungkin bisa menjawab 
Kita harus belajar dari SEJARAH  oentoeng posting: Fri 
Mar 24, 2006 7:44 am  Re: SUPER STRONG BUY PTBA!!! Exponetial growth 
is here!   Sekarang kalo NGOMONG PTBA sebenarnya saya ingin 
mencontoh Pak Eka Suwanda. COLLECT PTBA DI BAWAH 2000! Sampai 
JEBOL DOKU ANDA! Sederhana aja; kalo BOZZ pernah "MEMAINKAN" PGAS 
dan ANTM kayak "GITU". Suatu saat nanti ketika di level 
3000-an PERCAYALAH "TARIAN"-NYA AKAN SAMA! Karena ini sudah SCHEDULE 
tahun 2005. Malah kalo mau lihat ke belakang; waktu 1800 saya udah 
WORO- WORO AMBIL PTBA ALASAN MENYUSUL kalo SUDAH 2000! Ntar Para 
Analis yang membuat BERITA-nya. Banyak SENTIMEN yg 
BERSEMAYAM di dalam PTBA; itu yg PALING PENTING! Yang paling disukai 
BOZZ  reply from pak Eka S.  Sat Mar 25, 
2006 5:04 am   Bener pak Untung! Coba kalo saya ikutan pak 
Untung di jaman 1900-an  udah Oentoeng deh!   Ntar 
saya lanjutin lagi  Saya tidak suka sinetron saya suka liat 
bioskop... hehehe...  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, 
"edy1276" edy1276@ wrote:   Iya, Kayak film 
anak-anak/sinetron aja ... ada tulisan to be  continue   
(bersambung)   Langsung aja tulis..napa? atau nunggu ntar sore 
setelah tutup?  Peace!   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, 
"Deddy" larimun@ wrote: tanggung 
amat, langsung aja , nanti dikoreksi ama senior kalo  salah. 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, 
"oentoeng_q"  oentoeng_q@
wrote:   
MaksudnyaGebrakan ala YU...di PTBA adalah 
salah satu "TRANSAKSI TRADER  40 
BIO".Semoga ada teman kita yg bisa memberikan 
PENJELASAN lebih  rinci...Terus terang saya 
tahu tapi TIDAK BISA MEMASTIKANmumpung  ada   
  teman yg KENAL DEKAT atau malah BELIAU sendiri transaksinya 40 
bio/day?Dari saya ada 5 
point yang BISA DIJELASKANsemoga bisa   dijadikan 
pencerahan bagi kita semua.
Mungkin akan dijelaskan oleh Embah, Boss Donax, Mr. 
Guntur  atauyang 
lain.Kalau saya ingin tahu apakah pengetahuan 
saya selama ini  SALAH? Maklum pemula...tapi 
harus sabar menunggu yg senior BICARA.  
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, 
"Halim Mintareja" hmin918@ wrote: 
Sorry ...   
   maksudnya ??
   On 6/12/06, 
oentoeng_q oentoeng_q@ wrote: 
  Hahahaha…….
  Saya terus-terang TERTAWA sampai perut saya  
sakit…..melihat Obrolan 
 tentang PTBA dalam kaitannya dengan AGRESIFITAS beli oleh   
YU…..  Maaf ini bukan untuk MENYINDIR 
SIAPAPUN!!!  
 Tapi bagi saya inilah SAATnya KITA SEMUA 
 mempertanyakan "PENGETAHUAN" BOSS DONAX and Mister GUNTUR   
GUNTUR  tentang TRADERS 40 BIO…??? 
 Semoga Beliau–beliau bisa memberi PENCERAHAN kepada 
kita semuanya.  Pak 
saya juga menunggu ulasannya dengan sangat  PENASARAN….!? 
 Apakah sudah saatnya kita menginjak Obrolan 
 dengan "Kurikulum Baru" ?   
Mungkin EMBAH bisa membantu 
ANALISAnya?  
 Semoga analisa menurut saya sangat BERBEDA….tapi tidak  akan 
  saya  keluarkan sebelum 
Beliau2 di atas mengeluarkan ILMU-nya….  
Pemula harus tahu diri……
   Bagi saya point2 dlm kasus ini: 
 1.Who is YU? ….YU  BOZZ, kalau perlu BOZZ_ku sendiri yg 
   bicara!  2.Order Trader 
40 Bio ?  3.Nge-ROLL TEHNIQUE….? 
 4.Endhy Ridho? Who is He? Sekuritas……?  
5.Too Cheap To be true…What does "it" means ? 
  Semoga KASUS ini 
menjadikan kita semua bisa "lebih baik  dari
  kemarin…" begitulah katanya Orang yang hidupnya  
Beroentoeng.  Yang jelas tidak akan ada 
"PENJELASAN" di milis manapun  saat 
ini……  selain Obrolan ala Bandar… 
 BOZZ aja sudah banyak ngasih PENCERAHAN kepada 
kita…semoga   kita bisa  
naik ke level lebih tinggi dalam Obrolan ke 
depan….Obrolan   para Dewa 
 di Kahyangan…..   

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Perhatikan grafik bursa INDIA

2006-06-09 Terurut Topik Dhany S





Lihat Dow Future sepertinya sejak kamis kemarin 
udah ijo terus... mungkin minggu depan kena pengaruhnya ya mbah...


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  jsx_consultant 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 3:27 PM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Perhatikan 
  grafik bursa INDIA
  
  
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, 
  Odink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  hehee selamat 
  ya pak.. tapi jangan lupa time to sell nya :)Mau jual hari INI 
  atau SENIN ?Nah INI yang agak GAMBLING diluar kemampuan ilmu 
  embah...Tapi: FTSE udah +80, DOW future udah PLUS...Gimana ANY 
  COMMENT ?. Anybody ?, pak Oentoeng ?, please ADVICE, jual Senin atau 
  Sekarang ?. Senin para Teknikalis akan BILANG IJO, mungkin Senin saat 
  SELL yah ?Disclaimer :The information contained in this communication is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and others authorized to receive it. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Unless otherwise specifically stated by the sender, any documents or views presented are solely those of the sender and do not constitute official documents or views of PT Bank Niaga Tbk. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by responding to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and then delete it from your system. PT Bank Niaga Tbk is neither liable for the proper and complete transmission of the information contained in this communication nor for any delay in its receipt.
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] UNTR Red Alert

2006-06-06 Terurut Topik Dhany S





Thanks for the warning pak Vibby...
ditunggu warning berikutnya...
semoga gak banyak..


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Santo Vibby 

  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  ; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 8:53 
  AM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] UNTR Red 
  Alert
  
  
  
  Minta maaf sebelumnya, bukannya pesimis.. bagi yg 
  megang UNTR mohon agar hati2.. Ascending Trianglenya failed dan broke down 
  kebawah.. kemungkinan akan berdarah2..Support berikutnya di 5200-5250 mudah2an 
  mampu bertahan.
  
  regards
  
  Vibby
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: STAY TUNE......

2006-05-30 Terurut Topik Dhany S





jangan underestimate pnbn tins loh... tapi 
pertambangan masih idola yah..

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Deddy 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 1:40 PM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: STAY 
  TUNE..
  jd saham apa yg bakal ditarik nih? apakah kali ini PNBN  
  TINS?:)--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, 
  "oentoeng_q" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saya lihat 
  milis ini SEPI karena lagi STAY OUT…atau lagi BENGONG2… atau WAIT anda 
  SEE….atau sebab lain mungkin???   Dalam kesempatan ini saya 
  ingin BERBAGI buat yang masih ingin STAY  TUNE dengan BEJ….. 
   BOZZ wrote:  Teman kami bilang... negara kalian 
  adalah negara mesin uang... Ini duit sekian 
  ...US$ tolong kalian putar agar bisa  
  dapat 10%.. itu akan dibagi.  Why not..???  
   Sebelumnya perkiraan saya akan ada KAITAN "ACTION" ketika ASING 
  akan  masuk di sisi lain "NEWS" menyebutkan "ASING keluar 
  dari ASIA,  Indeks Anjlok…bla..bla..bla. Tandanya adalah 
  PENGUATAN IDR dari 9350-an kembali ke seputaran 9200- an. 
  Apakah ini karena INTERVENSI??? Uang yang DITERIMA BOZZ itu dari 
  TETANGGA AGAK JAUH tapi dekat di  HATI sekitar JUTAAN USD…..lumayan 
  lah kalau BOZZ dapet bagian dari  CUAN-nya. Ketika saya 
  ungkapkan hari Jum'at terus di AMIN-i oleh BOZZ. Dan  NAIKnya baru2 
  ini…..masih LUMRAH kan… Hari ini banyak BROKER yang sudah mulai 
  NGEH….bahwa ada DANA MASUK  berarti kita semua bisa BERHARAP 
  kan?  Secara sederhana dalam KAITAN 10%, jadi 1300 ditambah 
  10%…..bisalah  kita berharap V-SERIES….menyentuh 1450-an. Tapi apakah 
  itu TARGET  BOZZ??? Ada yang tahu?  Saya sudah menebak dengan 
  FULL HOUSE……IT WILL BE HAPPEN…..so we can  reach highest 
  level AGAIN!?  Tapi kalau kartu BOZZ bukan seperti yang saya 
  perkirakan berarti  saya bukan pemain kartu yang baik. 
   There's will not be an armagedon... Hari KENAIKAN sudah 
  dekat... akankah tibauntuk kita??? Are you ready? 
   SEHARUSNYA kita semua READY….saat KITA OPTIMIS bahwa BADAI PASTI 
   BERLALU…..KENAIKAN akan berjalan "BIAR LAMBAT ASAL SELAMAT" ya 
  BOZZ!? Tapi yang ingin saya TEGASKAN bahwa ini akan terjadi 
  BERBARENGAN  dengan REGIONAL……. Do you believe that??? 
   Prepare your self... with your own method NEW METHOD, NEW 
  STYLE with NEW BEHAVIOUR NEW LIFE..  Teknik 
  ini yang akan saya ulas HABIS2an….. Wait for me BOZZ….. 
   Makanya ada yang bilang  Jangka Pendek Bullish.. 
  Jangka Menengah Bearish… Jangka Panjang Bullish…  
  Artinya:  Bahwa rebound SAAT INI "kita bisa berharap" akan mencapai 
  level  ABOVE 1400…. Tapi setelah itu JANGAN KAGET kalau KETEMU 
  UNDER 1250……. Setelah itu jangan KAGET LAGI kalau ONE DAY….MENCAPAI 
  level 1800- 2000!!! Ya nggak BOZZ……..  
  Bener nggak BOZZ kalau analisa saya ini menunjukkan saya masih STAY  
  TUNE dengan dirimu??? Mungkin Mbah atau yang lain ingin 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Today's trading with Elliott Wave

2006-05-29 Terurut Topik Dhany S





ada gambar elliot wave nya yg terbaru 
mbah?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  hst auto 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 11:28 
AM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Today's 
  trading with Elliott Wave
  hari ini trading masih menunggu elliot wave yang mba bilang 
  prediksi saya sebentar lagi terjadi tsunami tahap ke 3 siap siap.pak busur 
  kok jarang muncul nih... biasanya informasi dari pak busur manteb buat 
  rekan-rekan trader. ISAT hari ini berhenti naek, PTBA, ANTM, INCO, 
  BLTA trus melaju, ASII, TLKM mulai unjuk gigi.
  On 5/29/06, oentoeng_q  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Kalau saya boleh MENAMBAHKAN keterangan pada Gambar Mbah...- Pada 
Angka 4 (Biru tua/ Lowest)..Angka 2 (hijau tua)...Angka 2 (hijau 
muda)... Selalu menemukan HIGHER LOW...!- Sama seperti Angka 1 (hijau 
tua)...Angka 1 (Hijau muda)...cenderung mencari HIGHER HIGH...!- 
Jadi inilah teknik "KOCOK2" menurut Mbah dan BOZZ...tapi bagi saya tetap 
"teknik MENGUPIL" (masih menggunakan TANGAN KOSONG kan!?)...* Kalau 
hari ini highest +31 dengan close +10yang penting kan masih PLUS. 
Kita lihat BESOK.kemungkinan besar "DIKOCOK2" lagi...sampe Mual, 
Mulas, Muntah deh"Stay Tune" terus Guys...--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx-consultant 
jsx-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote: Today's trading with Elliott Wave  
  Wave 3 terbentuk pada subwave HIJAU dan HIJAU 
MUDA...  Resisten KUAT akan dihadapi PADA garis 5B 
 Saat ini IHSG close sesi 1 +27 di 1350.  Perhatikan 
2 garis STOP LOSS yang terlampir  note: - Terlampir 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: IPO BUKOPIN

2006-05-18 Terurut Topik Dhany S





hehehe, orang BRI udah angkat bicara 
tuh...


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Cahyo Hari Purwanto 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 8:06 AM
  Subject: IPO BUKOPIN
  
  
  BUKOPIN jadi anak 
  perusahaan BRI ???!!! Mungkin info yang tidak benar dan menyesatkan. Tidak ada 
  dalam Master Plan BRI. Bisnis relatif hampir sama, dan tidak memberi 
  nilai tambah buat BRI seperti kalo mau ambil BTN walau sekarang belum jelas 
  juga nasib akuisisi BTN dengan Bank mana.
  
  
  
  
  From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  on behalf of Andri WijayaSent: Thu 5/18/2006 7:04 PMTo: 
  obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IPO 
  BUKOPIN
  
  thanx untk infonya dan salam cuan
  regards
  On 5/18/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   wrote: 
  


perhatikan saja prospektus bukopin melalui 
surat-surat kabar dalam waktu dekat...disitu akan dipaparkan kinerja,jmlh 
lembar yg ditawarkan,jumlah dana yg ingin digalan dan agen 
penjual-nya..yang lebih sip lagi tanya broker broker kapan dia akan 
Publik Expose untuk IPO saham dia...karna disitu nanti akan diberi lembar 
untuk diisi mengenai jumlah saham yang anda inginkan untuk selanjutnya 
dikirimkan (difax) ke agen penjualnnya. 

Secara Valuasi kinerja bukopin bagus...rata 
rata pertumbuhan CAGRnya 20%...selama ditawarkan pada kisaran P/BV 1.6-2.0 
masih menarik...bandingin sama P/BV perbangkan saat ini yg P/BVnya 
2.7x...kalo sama yg sekelas asetnya (PNBN,BNGA,NISP,BII) P/BVnya 
sekitar1.8x-an.

nb:denger denger sih kedepannya (4-5 
tahunan...who knows??)Bukopin ini bisa di jadiin anak perush. BRI soalnya 
bekas Dirutnya khan sekarang jadi dirut BRI dan sampe sekarang mereka saling 
kerjasama untung lending ke institusi2 pemerintah seperti grup BuloG,dll. 



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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] IPO 
BUKOPIN

Mungkin ada yang bisa sharing dan berbagi pengalaman tentang IPO, IPO 
BUKOPIN layak beli nggak?
dan gimana caranya kalau mau pesan?
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] buang blta?

2006-05-17 Terurut Topik Dhany S





ANalisa pak Vibby mungkin perlu digaris 
bawahi...

kalo waktu2 gini yg paling santai pasti pak busur, 
karena belon ada yg reach new high dalam waktu dekat...

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Santo Vibby 

  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 11:33 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] buang 
  blta
  
  BLTA dari tadi udah dibuang koq di angka 2030 
  ampe ke 1990, tapi saya menilai itu merupakan koreksi wajar yg terjadi hampir 
  di seluruh stock yg naik pagi ini pak...
  
  Bahkan, jika tak salah saya melihat Buangan BLTA 
  dimakan mentah2 ama FX dan tidak terjadi penjebolan supportnya.. So mendingan 
  anda cross cek sendiri dgn analisa anda, drpd menelan mentah2 infodr 
  sekuritas anda..
  
  Jika ... hanya jika lho.. tidak terjadi 
  apa2 di JSX, maka itungan saya BLTA kemungkinan tutup di sekitar 2050 
  keatas
  
  
  
  regards
  
  Vibby
  
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Giselle 
Wang 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 11:25 
AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] buang 
blta
saya juga dengar rumor yg sama. any 
comment...?oho milyuners [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote: 
sekuritas 
  saya mengatakan bahwa blta akan diguyur ntarsiang.--- obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:   Pengalaman, saya pernah beli ISAT 5300 
  (terlalutinggi) di bln Jan'06 lalu turun teruss, 4500-4600, 
  saya uji kesabaransaya, e, ternyata April'06 kembali, malah 
  untung ...  Krn, menurut TEORI CUT LOSS, hanya boleh 
  dilakukanbila kondisi sbb: 1) Kondisi Politik di suatu negara 
  sedangBERGEJOLAK/ tidak menentu misal: Terjadi perebutan 
  KEKUASAAN 2) Kondisi Ekonomi TIDAK Stabil (banyak 
  perubahanakibat No.1) misalnya: - 
  Perubahan Drastis terhadap SUKU BUNGA - EMBARGO Ekonomi oleh 
  suatu negara. - Cadangan Devisa Negara TIPIS - 
  Ketidak pastian pembayaran UTANG Negara (NegaraTidak Mampu 
  Bayar Utang) 3) Aksi TERORISME  Pengeboman 4) 
  Masyarakat Tidak Percaya lagi terhadap MATA UANGsendiri. 
   Bila tidak ada tanda2 seperti diatas sebaiknya TIDAKperlu cut 
  Loss. Harga yakin akan kembali NORMAL, asal beli 
  saham2Fundamentalnya BAGUS.  Jadi saya tidak pernah 
  CUT LOSS, berapapun, hargajatuh. Mungkin teman lain ada yang 
  punya pengalaman lain.
  -- Kalo cut loss di 3%, 
  habis itu ambil dibawah... bukannya itu sama saja ngeshort, tapi 
  lebih enggakdeg-degan? :)  - Original Message 
  - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
  obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 
  2006 9:12 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit saran 
  buatmilis   Berapapun index turun saya tidak 
  akan CUT LOSS, sayaakan beli - berapapun dilevel 
  terendah. Ingat RUGI bila cut loss. 
  -- setuju pak, hati2 kalau cut 
  loss dah jadi budaya, bakalan gulung tikar... he..he..he. 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit saran buat milis to p oentoeng

2006-05-17 Terurut Topik Dhany S





kondisi market terakhir gimana nih?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
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  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 1:25 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit 
  saran buat milis to p oentoeng
  Baru dapet kabar nih dari RUPS BUMI nih:Betul deviden 
  tahun 2005 cuma 10perakTapi ada lagi deviden dari penjualan KPC dan BUMI 
  sebesar 190 perakjadi katar rumor bener karena total 200perakJadi 
  ceceng man, 940 nya pade dicabutin tuh- Original Message - 
  From: "Karno Edy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSent: 
  Wednesday, May 17, 2006 2:05 PMSubject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit 
  saran buat milis to p oentoeng Kalau bener siap nyebur 
  :) - Original Message -  From: "tuangede" 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
  obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 
  12:43 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit saran buat milis to p 
  oentoeng Kayanya meledak ke bawah nih...inpo-nya 
  div/sh cuman 10 perak. kalau bener gile 
  bener... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Karno 
  Edy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  Yg tadi guyur bumi 880  890 Ini Bakrie sendiri, BOS bego, 
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  saran buat milis to p 
  oentoeng  wah pak oentoeng 
  tapi kapan berangkatnya! apakah anda  yakin tau persis ttg 
  inaf, pnbn? thx  --- 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit saran buat milis

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Dhany S



Kalo cut loss di 3%, habis itu ambil dibawah...
bukannya itu sama saja ngeshort, tapi lebih enggak deg-degan? :)

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Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 9:12 AM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit saran buat milis


Berapapun index turun saya tidak akan CUT LOSS, saya akan
beli - berapapun dilevel terendah.
Ingat RUGI bila cut loss.


--
setuju pak, hati2 kalau cut loss dah jadi budaya,
bakalan gulung tikar... he..he..he.

cheers
iful






 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Angka FIBONACCI, memang SAKTI

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Dhany S
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mestinya kalo percaya fundamental, gak akan cut 
loss...
kecuali yg based on rumor

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Alfred Surya 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 10:42 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Angka 
  FIBONACCI, memang SAKTI
  
  10:38
  IHSG 
  +52
  
  time 
  to buy? mbah mohon petunjuk
  thanks
  

-Original Message-From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
oentoeng_qSent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 10:28 
AMTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSubject: 
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Angka FIBONACCI, memang SAKTIBOZZ 
juga suka BERMAIN ANGKA mbah...Kita lihat aja permainan minggu 
ini...Saya IKUT BERDUKA yg CUT LOSS kemarin2--- In 
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant" 
jsx-[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 09:57  
IHSG +45 dilevel 61,8% dari LOW...  Angka FIBONACCI, memang 
SAKTI makanya embah lagi MEMBUDAYAKAN angka 2 FIBONACCI 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] buang blta

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Dhany S





fundamentalnya minimal di 3000 bukan 
pak?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Santo Vibby 

  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 11:33 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] buang 
  blta
  
  BLTA dari tadi udah dibuang koq di angka 2030 
  ampe ke 1990, tapi saya menilai itu merupakan koreksi wajar yg terjadi hampir 
  di seluruh stock yg naik pagi ini pak...
  
  Bahkan, jika tak salah saya melihat Buangan BLTA 
  dimakan mentah2 ama FX dan tidak terjadi penjebolan supportnya.. So mendingan 
  anda cross cek sendiri dgn analisa anda, drpd menelan mentah2 infodr 
  sekuritas anda..
  
  Jika ... hanya jika lho.. tidak terjadi 
  apa2 di JSX, maka itungan saya BLTA kemungkinan tutup di sekitar 2050 
  keatas
  
  
  
  regards
  
  Vibby
  
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Giselle 
Wang 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 11:25 
AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] buang 
blta
saya juga dengar rumor yg sama. any 
comment...?oho milyuners [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote: 
sekuritas 
  saya mengatakan bahwa blta akan diguyur ntarsiang.--- obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:   Pengalaman, saya pernah beli ISAT 5300 
  (terlalutinggi) di bln Jan'06 lalu turun teruss, 4500-4600, 
  saya uji kesabaransaya, e, ternyata April'06 kembali, malah 
  untung ...  Krn, menurut TEORI CUT LOSS, hanya boleh 
  dilakukanbila kondisi sbb: 1) Kondisi Politik di suatu negara 
  sedangBERGEJOLAK/ tidak menentu misal: Terjadi perebutan 
  KEKUASAAN 2) Kondisi Ekonomi TIDAK Stabil (banyak 
  perubahanakibat No.1) misalnya: - 
  Perubahan Drastis terhadap SUKU BUNGA - EMBARGO Ekonomi oleh 
  suatu negara. - Cadangan Devisa Negara TIPIS - 
  Ketidak pastian pembayaran UTANG Negara (NegaraTidak Mampu 
  Bayar Utang) 3) Aksi TERORISME  Pengeboman 4) 
  Masyarakat Tidak Percaya lagi terhadap MATA UANGsendiri. 
   Bila tidak ada tanda2 seperti diatas sebaiknya TIDAKperlu cut 
  Loss. Harga yakin akan kembali NORMAL, asal beli 
  saham2Fundamentalnya BAGUS.  Jadi saya tidak pernah 
  CUT LOSS, berapapun, hargajatuh. Mungkin teman lain ada yang 
  punya pengalaman lain.
  -- Kalo cut loss di 3%, 
  habis itu ambil dibawah... bukannya itu sama saja ngeshort, tapi 
  lebih enggakdeg-degan? :)  - Original Message 
  - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
  obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 
  2006 9:12 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit saran 
  buatmilis   Berapapun index turun saya tidak 
  akan CUT LOSS, sayaakan beli - berapapun dilevel 
  terendah. Ingat RUGI bila cut loss. 
  -- setuju pak, hati2 kalau cut 
  loss dah jadi budaya, bakalan gulung tikar... he..he..he. 
   cheers iful 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] buang blta

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Dhany S





kalo emang gitu, kenapa harus takut kena guyur? 
cuek aja deh kalo mo jadi investor...

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Oskar 
  Syahbana 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 11:52 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] buang 
  blta
  Ya ke 3000 sih kayaknya nyampe. Tapi kapannya itu loh pak 
  masalahnya. Dan sepanjang jalan menuju 3000 kan bisa naik turun harga 
  sahamnya. Belinya nanti pas turun lagi :-D
  On 5/17/06, Dhany S 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  


fundamentalnya minimal di 3000 bukan 
pak?


- 
Original Message - 
From: 
Santo Vibby 
To: 
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: 
Wednesday, May 17, 2006 11:33 AM
Subject: 
Re: [obrolan-bandar] buang blta

BLTA dari tadi udah dibuang koq di angka 2030 
ampe ke 1990, tapi saya menilai itu merupakan koreksi wajar yg terjadi 
hampir di seluruh stock yg naik pagi ini pak...

Bahkan, jika tak salah saya melihat Buangan 
BLTA dimakan mentah2 ama FX dan tidak terjadi penjebolan supportnya.. So 
mendingan anda cross cek sendiri dgn analisa anda, drpd menelan mentah2 
infodr sekuritas anda..

Jika ... hanya jika lho.. tidak terjadi 
apa2 di JSX, maka itungan saya BLTA kemungkinan tutup di sekitar 2050 
keatas



regards

Vibby



  - 
  Original Message - 
  From: 
  Giselle Wang 
  To: 
  obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: 
  Wednesday, May 17, 2006 11:25 AM
  Subject: 
  Re: [obrolan-bandar] buang blta
  saya juga dengar rumor yg sama. any 
  comment...?oho milyuners [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  sekuritas 
saya mengatakan bahwa blta akan diguyur ntarsiang.--- obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
 Pengalaman, saya pernah beli ISAT 5300 (terlalutinggi) di 
bln Jan'06 lalu turun teruss, 4500-4600, saya uji 
kesabaransaya, e, ternyata April'06 kembali, malah untung 
...  Krn, menurut TEORI CUT LOSS, hanya boleh 
dilakukanbila kondisi sbb: 1) Kondisi Politik di suatu 
negara sedangBERGEJOLAK/ tidak menentu misal: Terjadi 
perebutan KEKUASAAN 2) Kondisi Ekonomi TIDAK Stabil (banyak 
perubahanakibat No.1) misalnya: - 
Perubahan Drastis terhadap SUKU BUNGA - EMBARGO Ekonomi 
oleh suatu negara. - Cadangan Devisa Negara 
TIPIS - Ketidak pastian pembayaran UTANG Negara 
(NegaraTidak Mampu Bayar Utang) 3) Aksi TERORISME 
 Pengeboman 4) Masyarakat Tidak Percaya lagi terhadap MATA 
UANGsendiri.  Bila tidak ada tanda2 seperti diatas 
sebaiknya TIDAKperlu cut Loss. Harga yakin akan kembali 
NORMAL, asal beli saham2Fundamentalnya BAGUS.  Jadi 
saya tidak pernah CUT LOSS, berapapun, hargajatuh. Mungkin 
teman lain ada yang punya pengalaman lain.   
 -- Kalo cut 
loss di 3%, habis itu ambil dibawah... bukannya itu sama saja 
ngeshort, tapi lebih enggakdeg-degan? :)  - 
Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: 
Wednesday, May 17, 2006 9:12 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: 
sedikit saran buatmilis   Berapapun index 
turun saya tidak akan CUT LOSS, sayaakan beli - berapapun 
dilevel terendah. Ingat RUGI bila cut loss. 
-- setuju pak, hati2 kalau cut 
loss dah jadi budaya, bakalan gulung tikar... 
he..he..he.  cheers iful 
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