Re: [ob] World Bank: Global Economy Faces Deflation

2009-07-19 Terurut Topik Ajie
Roubini is bullish now.
World Bank desperately wants to make money from negative condition.

Peace.

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World Bank: Global Economy Faces Deflation
Friday, July 17, 2009 8:53 AM

*By:* Julie Crawshaw A

The World Bank has given warning that the global economy will fall
into a deflationary
spiral unless urgent action is taken to reduce high levels of excess
capacity in industry, Ambrose Evans-Pritchard reported in the UK Telegraph.

Justin Lin, the bank’s chief economist, said factories running idle around
world threaten to trap economies in a vicious cycle, risking further spasms
of financial stress that require more rescue packages.

No country can count on currency depreciation and exports as a way out of
recession. Unless we deal with excess capacity, it will wreak havoc on all
countries,” Lin said.

“There is urgent need for global coordinated fiscal stimulus,” with
investments being focused on infrastructure in poor countries that are
bearing the brunt of the global crisis, he said.

Lin’s comments came as the Bank of Japan agreed to extend its quantitative
easing (QE) policies — mostly the purchase of corporate debt — and warned
that business investment is declining sharply.”

Powerful deflationary headwinds already have created deflation in Japan,
leading the International Monetary Fund to say that the Japanese government
and central bank should be ready to provide additional stimulus measures
should global demand fail to improve enough to support a recovery.

“There are downside risks, particularly if export demand continues to remain
weak and unemployment starts to weaken consumption further,” Jim Gordon, the
IMF mission chief to Japan, told Bloomberg. “This emphasizes the importance
of monetary policy, fiscal policy and financial sector policy to remain
supportive with additional measures” if the outlook deteriorates.

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Re: [ob] World Bank: Global Economy Faces Deflation

2009-07-19 Terurut Topik TimurLaut
Setuju pak Ajie
 
Saya yg oon ini, terpaksa lirik wikipedia dulu... In modern economies, 
deflation is caused by a collapse in demand (usually brought on by high 
interest rates), and is associated with recession and (more rarely) long term 
economic depressions

Mudah2an kecil lah kemungkinannya untuk global deflation ya? Lihatlah dimana2 
menurunkan interest rate. Belum lagi dana stimulus yg luar biasa besarnya. Di 
bawah adalah daftar stimulus packages yg iseng2 saya telusuri dari internet. 
Perlu waktu lah ya, untuk membelanjakan uang sebanyak ini. Sehingga perlu waktu 
pula untuk melihat efeknya.
 
Economy slow down in 2009; tentu. Namun apakah akan berkelanjutan ke 2010?
 Hukum Newton 3, AKSI = REAKSI. Apa kira2 reaksi dari aksi-aksi dibawah ini? 
Menurut saya, rekasinya adalah bullish, at least in 2 years. bagaimana menurut 
para suheng dan embah guru?
 
 
Oct 29, Japanese Prime Minister Taro Aso announced a 27 trillion yen ($275 
billion) stimulus package 
Nov 8, China's $586 billion stimulus package is its biggest contribution to 
the world, 
Nov 23, UK unveils $30bn stimulus package
Dec 4, French President Nicolas Sarkozy said Thursday he plans to spend his way 
out of recession with a euro26 billion ($33 billion) stimulus plan 
Dec 12, Japanese Prime Minister Taro Aso on Friday announced a new 23 trillion 
yen ($255 billion) stimulus package 
Jan 26, Norway announced a 20 billion kroner ($2.9 billion) stimulus package
Jan 13, Thailand's Cabinet approved a 115 billion baht ($3.3 billion) economic 
stimulus package 
Feb 17, Obama signs $787B US stimulus package into law 
 

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Roubini is bullish now.
World Bank desperately wants to make money from negative condition.

Peace.



From: Elaine Sui 
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:19:29 +0700
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [ob] World Bank: Global Economy Faces Deflation

  

When I said this, you didn't (want to) believe me, did you..



Elaine













World Bank: Global Economy Faces Deflation






Friday, July 17, 2009 8:53 AM

By: Julie Crawshaw
A




The World Bank has given warning that the global economy will fall into a 
deflationary spiral unless urgent action is taken to reduce high levels of 
excess capacity in industry, Ambrose Evans-Pritchard reported in the UK 
Telegraph.

Justin Lin, the bank’s chief economist, said factories running idle around 
world threaten to trap economies in a vicious cycle, risking further spasms of 
financial stress that require more rescue packages.

No country can count on currency depreciation and exports as a way out of 
recession. Unless we deal with excess capacity, it will wreak havoc on all 
countries,” Lin said.

“There is urgent need for global coordinated fiscal stimulus,” with investments 
being focused on infrastructure in poor countries that are bearing the brunt of 
the global crisis, he said.

Lin’s comments came as the Bank of Japan agreed to extend its quantitative 
easing (QE) policies — mostly the purchase of corporate debt — and warned that 
business investment is declining sharply.”

Powerful deflationary headwinds already have created deflation in Japan, 
leading the International Monetary Fund to say that the Japanese government and 
central bank should be ready to provide additional stimulus measures should 
global demand fail to improve enough to support a recovery.

“There are downside risks, particularly if export demand continues to remain 
weak and unemployment starts to weaken consumption further,” Jim Gordon, the 
IMF mission chief to Japan, told Bloomberg. “This emphasizes the importance of 
monetary policy, fiscal policy and financial sector policy to remain supportive 
with additional measures” if the outlook deteriorates.




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Re: [ob] World Bank: Global Economy Faces Deflation

2009-07-19 Terurut Topik riil_investor
Memang perlu kita mencermati setiap analisis yg ada! Namun kita jangan 100% 
percaya!!!
Pengalaman sudah membuktikan bahwa, mereka juga analis, segala sesuatunya msh 
dlm koridor prediksi/perkiraan! MEREKA JUGA MANUSIA yg selalu penuh dg 
kesalahan! IMF juga telah membuat ekonomi kita hancur, dg $erekomendasikan 
penjualan asset? Nyatanya? Kita sangat dirugikan dengan pola/usulan mereka!
Saran saya, tetap kita sebagai bangsa kudu mandiri dan berdiri di kaki sendiri! 
Terakhir. Bank Dunia juga salah memprediksi tingkat pertumbuhan kita? So? 

Mari kita tanya kepada rumput yg bergoyang, apa yg akan terjadi nanti! He he he


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From: Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com

Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:19:29 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] World Bank: Global Economy Faces Deflation


*When I said this, you didn't (want to) believe me, did you..
* *
*
Elaine

World Bank: Global Economy Faces Deflation
Friday, July 17, 2009 8:53 AM

*By:* Julie Crawshaw A

The World Bank has given warning that the global economy will fall
into a deflationary
spiral unless urgent action is taken to reduce high levels of excess
capacity in industry, Ambrose Evans-Pritchard reported in the UK Telegraph.

Justin Lin, the bank’s chief economist, said factories running idle around
world threaten to trap economies in a vicious cycle, risking further spasms
of financial stress that require more rescue packages.

No country can count on currency depreciation and exports as a way out of
recession. Unless we deal with excess capacity, it will wreak havoc on all
countries,” Lin said.

“There is urgent need for global coordinated fiscal stimulus,” with
investments being focused on infrastructure in poor countries that are
bearing the brunt of the global crisis, he said.

Lin’s comments came as the Bank of Japan agreed to extend its quantitative
easing (QE) policies — mostly the purchase of corporate debt — and warned
that business investment is declining sharply.”

Powerful deflationary headwinds already have created deflation in Japan,
leading the International Monetary Fund to say that the Japanese government
and central bank should be ready to provide additional stimulus measures
should global demand fail to improve enough to support a recovery.

“There are downside risks, particularly if export demand continues to remain
weak and unemployment starts to weaken consumption further,” Jim Gordon, the
IMF mission chief to Japan, told Bloomberg. “This emphasizes the importance
of monetary policy, fiscal policy and financial sector policy to remain
supportive with additional measures” if the outlook deteriorates.

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2009-07-19 Terurut Topik swan silo
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Memang perlu kita mencermati setiap analisis yg ada! Namun kita jangan 100% 
percaya!!!
Pengalaman sudah membuktikan bahwa, mereka juga analis, segala sesuatunya msh 
dlm koridor prediksi/perkiraan! MEREKA JUGA MANUSIA yg selalu penuh dg 
kesalahan! IMF juga telah membuat ekonomi kita hancur, dg $erekomendasikan 
penjualan asset? Nyatanya? Kita sangat dirugikan dengan pola/usulan mereka!
Saran saya, tetap kita sebagai bangsa kudu mandiri dan berdiri di kaki sendiri! 
Terakhir. Bank Dunia juga salah memprediksi tingkat pertumbuhan kita? So? 

Mari kita tanya kepada rumput yg bergoyang, apa yg akan terjadi nanti! He he he


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From:  Elaine Sui 
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:19:29 +0700
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [ob] World Bank: Global Economy Faces Deflation
  
When I said this, you didn't (want to) believe me, did you..


Elaine


World Bank: Global Economy Faces Deflation 


Friday, July 17, 2009 8:53 AM

By: Julie Crawshaw A  


The World Bank has given warning that the global economy will fall into a 
deflationary spiral unless urgent action is taken to reduce high levels of 
excess capacity in industry, Ambrose Evans-Pritchard reported in the UK 
Telegraph.
Justin Lin, the bank’s chief economist, said factories running idle around 
world threaten to trap economies in a vicious cycle, risking further spasms of 
financial stress that require more rescue packages.
No country can count on currency depreciation and exports as a way out of 
recession. Unless we deal with excess capacity, it will wreak havoc on all 
countries,” Lin said.
“There is urgent need for global coordinated fiscal stimulus,” with investments 
being focused on infrastructure in poor countries that are bearing the brunt of 
the global crisis, he said.
Lin’s comments came as the Bank of Japan agreed to extend its quantitative 
easing (QE) policies — mostly the purchase of corporate debt — and warned that 
business investment is declining sharply.”
Powerful deflationary headwinds already have created deflation in Japan, 
leading the International Monetary Fund to say that the Japanese government and 
central bank should be ready to provide additional stimulus measures should 
global demand fail to improve enough to support a recovery.
“There are downside risks, particularly if export demand continues to remain 
weak and unemployment starts to weaken consumption further,” Jim Gordon, the 
IMF mission chief to Japan, told Bloomberg. “This emphasizes the importance of 
monetary policy, fiscal policy and financial sector policy to remain supportive 
with additional measures” if the outlook deteriorates.
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Re: Bls: [ob] World Bank: Global Economy Faces Deflation

2009-07-19 Terurut Topik Matt Nowo
Saya rasa, dia hanya ingin agar OB'ers tetap waspada. Agar cuan ditangan tidak 
lenyap kembali. 
Logika ekonomi dgn berbagai indikator   menunjukkan probabilita cukup tinggi 
akan terjadi global deflasi. Ini telah disadari, sehingga banyak negara (barat) 
melakukan kebijakan couter cyclical. Tinggal dilihat mana efek yg lebih 
dominan. Jika kebijakan counter cyclical berdampak, probalita global deflasi 
akan menurun. Time will tell. 
BTW, sebagai contoh gagal, pemerintah jepang sudah sejak lama melakukan 
kebijakan counter cyclical (a.l. suku bunga rendah, defisit gov spending, 
dpresiasi) tetapi nampaknya gagal (atau belum berhasil?). Interaksi dgn rest of 
the world, menyebabkan uncertainty. Bagaimana pihak lain bereaksi atas aksi 
(strategi) yg dipilih menentukan pay off matrix (hasil) masing2 pihak. 
Bottom line: selalu waspada, karena uncertainty selalu ada.
 
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Subject: Bls: [ob] World Bank: Global Economy Faces Deflation


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Memang perlu kita mencermati setiap analisis yg ada! Namun kita jangan 100% 
percaya!!!
Pengalaman sudah membuktikan bahwa, mereka juga analis, segala sesuatunya msh 
dlm koridor prediksi/perkiraan! MEREKA JUGA MANUSIA yg selalu penuh dg 
kesalahan! IMF juga telah membuat ekonomi kita hancur, dg $erekomendasikan 
penjualan asset? Nyatanya? Kita sangat dirugikan dengan pola/usulan mereka!
Saran saya, tetap kita sebagai bangsa kudu mandiri dan berdiri di kaki sendiri! 
Terakhir. Bank Dunia juga salah memprediksi tingkat pertumbuhan kita? So? 

Mari kita tanya kepada rumput yg bergoyang, apa yg akan terjadi nanti! He he he


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From:  Elaine Sui 
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:19:29 +0700
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [ob] World Bank: Global Economy Faces Deflation
  
When I said this, you didn't (want to) believe me, did you..


Elaine


World Bank: Global Economy Faces Deflation 


Friday, July 17, 2009 8:53 AM

By: Julie Crawshaw A  


The World Bank has given warning that the global economy will fall into a 
deflationary spiral unless urgent action is taken to reduce high levels of 
excess capacity in industry, Ambrose Evans-Pritchard reported in the UK 
Telegraph.
Justin Lin, the bank’s chief economist, said factories running idle around 
world threaten to trap economies in a vicious cycle, risking further spasms of 
financial stress that require more rescue packages.
No country can count on currency depreciation and exports as a way out of 
recession. Unless we deal with excess capacity, it will wreak havoc on all 
countries,” Lin said.
“There is urgent need for global coordinated fiscal stimulus,” with investments 
being focused on infrastructure in poor countries that are bearing the brunt of 
the global crisis, he said.
Lin’s comments came as the Bank of Japan agreed to extend its quantitative 
easing (QE) policies — mostly the purchase of corporate debt — and warned that 
business investment is declining sharply.”
Powerful deflationary headwinds already have created deflation in Japan, 
leading the International Monetary Fund to say that the Japanese government and 
central bank should be ready to provide additional stimulus measures should 
global demand fail to improve enough to support a recovery.
“There are downside risks, particularly if export demand continues to remain 
weak and unemployment starts to weaken consumption further,” Jim Gordon, the 
IMF mission chief to Japan, told Bloomberg. “This emphasizes the importance of 
monetary policy, fiscal policy and financial sector policy to remain supportive 
with additional measures” if the outlook deteriorates.
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Re: Bls: [ob] World Bank: Global Economy Faces Deflation

2009-07-19 Terurut Topik rangga_the_demon

kayaknye WB lagi ngejar target tahunan nehhihihihi.slow down 
beibeh...OR YOU'LL BE DOWN.(halah, apa coba..)

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Matt Nowo inf...@... wrote:

 Saya rasa, dia hanya ingin agar OB'ers tetap waspada. Agar cuan ditangan 
 tidak lenyap kembali. 
 Logika ekonomi dgn berbagai indikator   menunjukkan probabilita cukup tinggi 
 akan terjadi global deflasi. Ini telah disadari, sehingga banyak negara 
 (barat) melakukan kebijakan couter cyclical. Tinggal dilihat mana efek yg 
 lebih dominan. Jika kebijakan counter cyclical berdampak, probalita global 
 deflasi akan menurun. Time will tell. 
 BTW, sebagai contoh gagal, pemerintah jepang sudah sejak lama melakukan 
 kebijakan counter cyclical (a.l. suku bunga rendah, defisit gov spending, 
 dpresiasi) tetapi nampaknya gagal (atau belum berhasil?). Interaksi dgn rest 
 of the world, menyebabkan uncertainty. Bagaimana pihak lain bereaksi atas 
 aksi (strategi) yg dipilih menentukan pay off matrix (hasil) masing2 pihak. 
 Bottom line: selalu waspada, karena uncertainty selalu ada.
  
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 Memang perlu kita mencermati setiap analisis yg ada! Namun kita jangan 100% 
 percaya!!!
 Pengalaman sudah membuktikan bahwa, mereka juga analis, segala sesuatunya msh 
 dlm koridor prediksi/perkiraan! MEREKA JUGA MANUSIA yg selalu penuh dg 
 kesalahan! IMF juga telah membuat ekonomi kita hancur, dg $erekomendasikan 
 penjualan asset? Nyatanya? Kita sangat dirugikan dengan pola/usulan mereka!
 Saran saya, tetap kita sebagai bangsa kudu mandiri dan berdiri di kaki 
 sendiri! 
 Terakhir. Bank Dunia juga salah memprediksi tingkat pertumbuhan kita? So? 
 
 Mari kita tanya kepada rumput yg bergoyang, apa yg akan terjadi nanti! He he 
 he
 
 
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 Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:19:29 +0700
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Subject: Re: [ob] World Bank: Global Economy Faces Deflation
   
 When I said this, you didn't (want to) believe me, did you..
 
 
 Elaine
 
 
 World Bank: Global Economy Faces Deflation 
 
 
 Friday, July 17, 2009 8:53 AM
 
 By: Julie Crawshaw A  
 
 
 The World Bank has given warning that the global economy will fall into a 
 deflationary spiral unless urgent action is taken to reduce high levels of 
 excess capacity in industry, Ambrose Evans-Pritchard reported in the UK 
 Telegraph.
 Justin Lin, the bank’s chief economist, said factories running idle around 
 world threaten to trap economies in a vicious cycle, risking further spasms 
 of financial stress that require more rescue packages.
 No country can count on currency depreciation and exports as a way out of 
 recession. Unless we deal with excess capacity, it will wreak havoc on all 
 countries,” Lin said.
 “There is urgent need for global coordinated fiscal stimulus,” with 
 investments being focused on infrastructure in poor countries that are 
 bearing the brunt of the global crisis, he said.
 Lin’s comments came as the Bank of Japan agreed to extend its quantitative 
 easing (QE) policies †mostly the purchase of corporate debt †and warned 
 that business investment is declining sharply.”
 Powerful deflationary headwinds already have created deflation in Japan, 
 leading the International Monetary Fund to say that the Japanese government 
 and central bank should be ready to provide additional stimulus measures 
 should global demand fail to improve enough to support a recovery.
 “There are downside risks, particularly if export demand continues to 
 remain weak and unemployment starts to weaken consumption further,” Jim 
 Gordon, the IMF mission chief to Japan, told Bloomberg. “This emphasizes 
 the importance of monetary policy, fiscal policy and financial sector policy 
 to remain supportive with additional measures” if the outlook deteriorates.
 © 2009 Newsmax. All rights reserved. 
 
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Re: Bls: [ob] World Bank: Global Economy Faces Deflation

2009-07-19 Terurut Topik troyanese
Yang lebih pasti mungkin fakta-fakta ini  :

1. Penduduk bumi terus bertambah maka kebutuhan manusia juga terus bertambah : 
sandang, pangan, transportasi dlsb. 
2. Wilayah bumi tidak bertambah, sehingga dengan jumlah manusia yang semakin 
besar ruang hidup jadi lebih sempit, dan dengan supply yang tetap sedang demand 
meningkat maka harga lahan juga semakin mahal.
3. Natural resources tidak bisa diperbaharui, sehingga akan semakin langka dan 
kalau tidak terdapat produk substitusinya, maka harganya juga akan semakin 
mahal.
4. Peradaban manusia tidak akan berjalan mundur, sehingga kebutuhan manusia 
akan tehnologi, khususnya tehnologi informasi akan terus meningkat.

Namun fakta-fakta tersebut bisa tidak terjadi apabila terjadi perang atau 
bencana alam besar yang memusnahkan atau membuat sejumlah besar manusia 
terbunuh. Silahkan dikoreksi dan ditambahkan fakta-fakta lainnya.


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 Terkirim: Senin, 20 Juli, 2009 04:58:09
 Judul: Re: [ob] World Bank: Global Economy Faces Deflation
 
   
 Memang perlu kita mencermati setiap analisis yg ada! Namun kita jangan 100% 
 percaya!!!
 Pengalaman sudah membuktikan bahwa, mereka juga analis, segala sesuatunya msh 
 dlm koridor prediksi/perkiraan! MEREKA JUGA MANUSIA yg selalu penuh dg 
 kesalahan! IMF juga telah membuat ekonomi kita hancur, dg $erekomendasikan 
 penjualan asset? Nyatanya? Kita sangat dirugikan dengan pola/usulan mereka!
 Saran saya, tetap kita sebagai bangsa kudu mandiri dan berdiri di kaki 
 sendiri! 
 Terakhir. Bank Dunia juga salah memprediksi tingkat pertumbuhan kita? So? 
 
 Mari kita tanya kepada rumput yg bergoyang, apa yg akan terjadi nanti! He he 
 he
 
 
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 From:  Elaine Sui 
 Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:19:29 +0700
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Subject: Re: [ob] World Bank: Global Economy Faces Deflation
   
 When I said this, you didn't (want to) believe me, did you..
 
 
 Elaine
 
 
 World Bank: Global Economy Faces Deflation 
 
 
 Friday, July 17, 2009 8:53 AM
 
 By: Julie Crawshaw A  
 
 
 The World Bank has given warning that the global economy will fall into a 
 deflationary spiral unless urgent action is taken to reduce high levels of 
 excess capacity in industry, Ambrose Evans-Pritchard reported in the UK 
 Telegraph.
 Justin Lin, the bank’s chief economist, said factories running idle around 
 world threaten to trap economies in a vicious cycle, risking further spasms 
 of financial stress that require more rescue packages.
 No country can count on currency depreciation and exports as a way out of 
 recession. Unless we deal with excess capacity, it will wreak havoc on all 
 countries,” Lin said.
 “There is urgent need for global coordinated fiscal stimulus,” with 
 investments being focused on infrastructure in poor countries that are 
 bearing the brunt of the global crisis, he said.
 Lin’s comments came as the Bank of Japan agreed to extend its quantitative 
 easing (QE) policies †mostly the purchase of corporate debt †and warned 
 that business investment is declining sharply.”
 Powerful deflationary headwinds already have created deflation in Japan, 
 leading the International Monetary Fund to say that the Japanese government 
 and central bank should be ready to provide additional stimulus measures 
 should global demand fail to improve enough to support a recovery.
 “There are downside risks, particularly if export demand continues to 
 remain weak and unemployment starts to weaken consumption further,” Jim 
 Gordon, the IMF mission chief to Japan, told Bloomberg. “This emphasizes 
 the importance of monetary policy, fiscal policy and financial sector policy 
 to remain supportive with additional measures” if the outlook deteriorates.
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Re: [ob] World Bank: Global Economy Faces Deflation

2009-07-18 Terurut Topik Elaine Sui
*When I said this, you didn't (want to) believe me, did you..
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Elaine

World Bank: Global Economy Faces Deflation
Friday, July 17, 2009 8:53 AM

*By:* Julie Crawshaw A

The World Bank has given warning that the global economy will fall
into a deflationary
spiral unless urgent action is taken to reduce high levels of excess
capacity in industry, Ambrose Evans-Pritchard reported in the UK Telegraph.

Justin Lin, the bank’s chief economist, said factories running idle around
world threaten to trap economies in a vicious cycle, risking further spasms
of financial stress that require more rescue packages.

No country can count on currency depreciation and exports as a way out of
recession. Unless we deal with excess capacity, it will wreak havoc on all
countries,” Lin said.

“There is urgent need for global coordinated fiscal stimulus,” with
investments being focused on infrastructure in poor countries that are
bearing the brunt of the global crisis, he said.

Lin’s comments came as the Bank of Japan agreed to extend its quantitative
easing (QE) policies — mostly the purchase of corporate debt — and warned
that business investment is declining sharply.”

Powerful deflationary headwinds already have created deflation in Japan,
leading the International Monetary Fund to say that the Japanese government
and central bank should be ready to provide additional stimulus measures
should global demand fail to improve enough to support a recovery.

“There are downside risks, particularly if export demand continues to remain
weak and unemployment starts to weaken consumption further,” Jim Gordon, the
IMF mission chief to Japan, told Bloomberg. “This emphasizes the importance
of monetary policy, fiscal policy and financial sector policy to remain
supportive with additional measures” if the outlook deteriorates.

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Re: [ob] World Bank: Global Economy Faces Deflation

2009-07-18 Terurut Topik mekindascrewel
Sapa nyang ngk percaya el ?
Kita cuman lg ngeharapin ada spike terakhir sblm crash boom bang .
Itu aja kok 


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Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:19:29 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] World Bank: Global Economy Faces Deflation


*When I said this, you didn't (want to) believe me, did you..
* *
*
Elaine

World Bank: Global Economy Faces Deflation
Friday, July 17, 2009 8:53 AM

*By:* Julie Crawshaw A

The World Bank has given warning that the global economy will fall
into a deflationary
spiral unless urgent action is taken to reduce high levels of excess
capacity in industry, Ambrose Evans-Pritchard reported in the UK Telegraph.

Justin Lin, the bank’s chief economist, said factories running idle around
world threaten to trap economies in a vicious cycle, risking further spasms
of financial stress that require more rescue packages.

No country can count on currency depreciation and exports as a way out of
recession. Unless we deal with excess capacity, it will wreak havoc on all
countries,” Lin said.

“There is urgent need for global coordinated fiscal stimulus,” with
investments being focused on infrastructure in poor countries that are
bearing the brunt of the global crisis, he said.

Lin’s comments came as the Bank of Japan agreed to extend its quantitative
easing (QE) policies — mostly the purchase of corporate debt — and warned
that business investment is declining sharply.”

Powerful deflationary headwinds already have created deflation in Japan,
leading the International Monetary Fund to say that the Japanese government
and central bank should be ready to provide additional stimulus measures
should global demand fail to improve enough to support a recovery.

“There are downside risks, particularly if export demand continues to remain
weak and unemployment starts to weaken consumption further,” Jim Gordon, the
IMF mission chief to Japan, told Bloomberg. “This emphasizes the importance
of monetary policy, fiscal policy and financial sector policy to remain
supportive with additional measures” if the outlook deteriorates.

 © 2009 Newsmax. All rights reserved.

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Re: [ob] World Bank: Global Economy Faces Deflation

2009-07-18 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi

defure-taisaku (deflation measure) in japan is a decade issue, representing 
crisis starting more than decade ago. may the world learn and act swiftly from 
the experience to cope with current situation, keep the global economic growth. 
  



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To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
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When I said this, you didn't (want to) believe me, did you..



Elaine





World Bank: Global Economy Faces Deflation

Friday, July 17, 2009 8:53 AM


By: Julie Crawshaw




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The World Bank has given warning that the global economy will fall into a 
deflationary spiral unless urgent action is taken to reduce high levels of 
excess capacity in industry, Ambrose Evans-Pritchard reported in the UK 
Telegraph.









Justin Lin, the bank’s chief economist, said factories running idle around 
world threaten to trap economies in a vicious cycle, risking further spasms of 
financial stress that require more rescue packages.




No country can count on currency depreciation and exports as a way out of 
recession. Unless we deal with excess capacity, it will wreak havoc on all 
countries,” Lin said.









“There is urgent need for global coordinated fiscal stimulus,” with investments 
being focused on infrastructure in poor countries that are bearing the brunt of 
the global crisis, he said.




Lin’s comments came as the Bank of Japan agreed to extend its quantitative 
easing (QE) policies — mostly the purchase of corporate debt — and warned that 
business investment is declining sharply.”









Powerful deflationary headwinds already have created deflation in Japan, 
leading the International Monetary Fund to say that the Japanese government and 
central bank should be ready to provide additional stimulus measures should 
global demand fail to improve enough to support a recovery.









“There are downside risks, particularly if export demand continues to remain 
weak and unemployment starts to weaken consumption further,” Jim Gordon, the 
IMF mission chief to Japan, told Bloomberg. “This emphasizes the importance of 
monetary policy, fiscal policy and financial sector policy to remain supportive 
with additional measures” if the outlook deteriorates.














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Re: [ob] World Bank: Global Economy Faces Deflation

2009-07-18 Terurut Topik prima_ferra
Kepada para senior, bisa menjelaskan dampaknya terhadap ekonomi indonesia serta 
ihsg? Tks
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From: Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com

Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:19:29 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] World Bank: Global Economy Faces Deflation


*When I said this, you didn't (want to) believe me, did you..
* *
*
Elaine

World Bank: Global Economy Faces Deflation
Friday, July 17, 2009 8:53 AM

*By:* Julie Crawshaw A

The World Bank has given warning that the global economy will fall
into a deflationary
spiral unless urgent action is taken to reduce high levels of excess
capacity in industry, Ambrose Evans-Pritchard reported in the UK Telegraph.

Justin Lin, the bank’s chief economist, said factories running idle around
world threaten to trap economies in a vicious cycle, risking further spasms
of financial stress that require more rescue packages.

No country can count on currency depreciation and exports as a way out of
recession. Unless we deal with excess capacity, it will wreak havoc on all
countries,” Lin said.

“There is urgent need for global coordinated fiscal stimulus,” with
investments being focused on infrastructure in poor countries that are
bearing the brunt of the global crisis, he said.

Lin’s comments came as the Bank of Japan agreed to extend its quantitative
easing (QE) policies — mostly the purchase of corporate debt — and warned
that business investment is declining sharply.”

Powerful deflationary headwinds already have created deflation in Japan,
leading the International Monetary Fund to say that the Japanese government
and central bank should be ready to provide additional stimulus measures
should global demand fail to improve enough to support a recovery.

“There are downside risks, particularly if export demand continues to remain
weak and unemployment starts to weaken consumption further,” Jim Gordon, the
IMF mission chief to Japan, told Bloomberg. “This emphasizes the importance
of monetary policy, fiscal policy and financial sector policy to remain
supportive with additional measures” if the outlook deteriorates.

 © 2009 Newsmax. All rights reserved.

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