Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Hati2 BUMI mau diguyur

2007-12-14 Terurut Topik Vaulstrad

Hope sih.. tapi semua juga tau harga coal masih akan naik, BUMI
perusahaan bagus dari ubs tp 1 danareksa 7500 dan CLSA TP 8300.

Saya sendiri belum liat Research dari ML.

Saya si tidak perduli asal percaya saja. 

Saya selalu average up sampai sekarang. Berharap chrismast rally nanti
dan result dari annual report tahun ini akan memancing harga saham naik.

Buktinya harga BUMI sampai sekarang stabil stabil aja. Makin turun
makin di beli. 

Batubara sangat dibutuhkan meskipun sekarang lagi ada environment
conference gitu di bali yang bilang batubara itu kotor. Biar kotor
tapi di negara berkembang itu murah lebih penting.

Untuk sekarang ini batubara masih merupakan source paling murah untuk
energy. 

Cina sendiri punya demand yang begitu tinggi, belum india. dan
mengingat harga minyak yang naik terus, banyak perusahaan yang sudah
switch ke batubara. 



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Hotma Sirait [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 for : ML dan agen2nya,
 
 kalau you (ML) yakin TP BUMI = 2772 kenapa tidak you short saja
BUMI, biar investor BUMI bisa nampung dibawah nih sekalian dengan
ANTM-nya (biar ditampung para Antamers di forum ini). berani enggak ML
(jangan cuma omdo = omong doang) ? ditunggu besok ya action-nya ?
jangan-jangan besok malah dia (ML) yg beli-in BUMI  ANTM (lewat
sekuritas lain).
 
 regards,
 
 hotma sirait.
 
 - Original Message 
 From: Heryadi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 1:58:24 AM
 Subject: Re: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Hati2 BUMI mau diguyur
 
 
 Kang Ocoy mungkin bisa bantu ngitungin nich fundamental BUMI.
  
 Salam.
  
 - Original Message - 
 From: Hendra Santosa 
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 4:40 PM
 Subject: RE: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Hati2 BUMI mau diguyur
 
 
 Ada yang bisa di-share research-nya ML untuk tahu dasar perhitungannya?
 Kalau 2772 itu jauh lebih rendah daripada TP ANTM yang 46xx.
  
 HS
  
  
 
 
 
 From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: obrolan-bandar@
yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of arnold
 Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 8:25 PM
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Subject: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Hati2 BUMI mau diguyur
  
 janggal banget..
 
 separah2nya minyak, spread nya gak akan sejauh itu..
 
 ML against other securities..
 
 salam
 arnold
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Rei highwaystar91@ ... 
 wrote:
 
  ML targetkan PTBA 15000, tapi BUMI cuma 2700 yah?
  Ada yg janggal? Bukannya BUMI yg banyak export? Saya nggak punya 
  BUMI sih...
  
  --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Irmawan Sadikin 
  irmawan_sadikin@  wrote:
  
   
   
   Subject: BUMI (TP Rp2,772) - Merrill Lynch: Only for the
   brave and the nimble. Global assumptions on thermal coal price 
  raised.
   Assumptions on sales and cost mix refined. Outcome: A mixed bag; 
  Neutral
   reiterated. Current share pirce demands US$ 110/t thermal coal
   
   
   
   
 
 
 
  

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Re: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Hati2 BUMI mau diguyur

2007-12-10 Terurut Topik Irmawan Sadikin
ML ngeluaring analisa BUMI

Earnings revision
We have raised core net income by 17% for FY08E and by 16% for FY09E.
However, FY10 and FY11 forecasts are cut by 8% and 22%, respectively. Our
year-end 2008 DCF estimate has risen by 5% to Rp2,772/sh, still 55% below the
last closing price of Rp6,150.

Be safe the road is bumpy

- Original Message 
From: BEJ Trader [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 2:53:34 PM
Subject: Re: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Hati2 BUMI mau diguyur










  







Do you really know what you're talking about 
?

 

 


  - Original Message - 

  From: 
  William 
  Tevez 

  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
  

  Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 2:36 
  PM

  Subject: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] 
  Hati2 BUMI mau diguyur

  


  
  
  
Hati2 Bumi mau diguyur, tuker barang ke ANTM  BMRI

  

Irawan Sudarman [EMAIL PROTECTED] com 
  wrote:

  


Saya percaya tuh kalau koreksi ke 5500
dasarnya 
pengharapan



On Dec 10, 2007 11:39 AM, OKI SINGGIH oki.singgih@ yahoo.com  
wrote:


  
  
  
  
  

  
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To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: 
  Monday, December 10, 2007 10:26:05 AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] 
  BUMI 


  
  

  dasarnya apa?

 

  On 12/10/07, Vaulstrad [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: 
  




Percaya atau tidak, saya yakin BUMI akan naik this 
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RE: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Hati2 BUMI mau diguyur

2007-12-10 Terurut Topik Hendra Santosa
Berapa TP-nya ML?

Thx,

HS

 

  _  

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Irmawan Sadikin
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 7:16 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Hati2 BUMI mau diguyur

 

ML ngeluaring analisa BUMI

Earnings revision
We have raised core net income by 17% for FY08E and by 16% for FY09E.
However, FY10 and FY11 forecasts are cut by 8% and 22%, respectively. Our
year-end 2008 DCF estimate has risen by 5% to Rp2,772/sh, still 55% below the
last closing price of Rp6,150.

Be safe the road is bumpy

- Original Message 
From: BEJ Trader [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 2:53:34 PM
Subject: Re: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Hati2 BUMI mau diguyur

 

Do you really know what you're talking about ?

 

 

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From: William mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Tevez 

To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com  com 

Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 2:36 PM

Subject: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Hati2 BUMI mau diguyur

 

Hati2 Bumi mau diguyur, tuker barang ke ANTM  BMRI



Irawan Sudarman [EMAIL PROTECTED] com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:


Saya percaya tuh kalau koreksi ke 5500
dasarnya pengharapan



On Dec 10, 2007 11:39 AM, OKI SINGGIH oki.singgih@ yahoo.com mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]   wrote:

FEELING or HOPING? 

 

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To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com  com
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 10:26:05 AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI 

dasarnya apa?

 

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Percaya atau tidak, saya yakin BUMI akan naik this week.

 

 

 


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Re: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Hati2 BUMI mau diguyur

2007-12-10 Terurut Topik Irmawan Sadikin


Subject: BUMI (TP Rp2,772) - Merrill Lynch: Only for the
brave and the nimble. Global assumptions on thermal coal price raised.
Assumptions on sales and cost mix refined. Outcome: A mixed bag; Neutral
reiterated. Current share pirce demands US$ 110/t thermal coal




- Original Message 
From: Hendra Santosa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 3:53:41 PM
Subject: RE: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Hati2 BUMI mau diguyur










  












Berapa TP-nya ML?
 

Thx,
 

HS
 

  
 










From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. 
com ] On Behalf Of Irmawan Sadikin

Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007
7:16 PM

To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: Balasan: Re:
[obrolan-bandar] Hati2 BUMI mau diguyur
 




  
 











ML ngeluaring analisa
BUMI



Earnings revision

We have raised core net income by 17% for FY08E and by 16% for FY09E.

However, FY10 and FY11 forecasts are cut by 8% and 22%, respectively. Our

year-end 2008 DCF estimate has risen by 5% to Rp2,772/sh, still 55% below the

last closing price of Rp6,150.



Be safe the road is bumpy
 



- Original Message


From: BEJ Trader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com

To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 2:53:34 PM

Subject: Re: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Hati2 BUMI mau diguyur
 



 
 



Do you really know what you're talking about ?
 






 
 






 
 








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From: William
Tevez 
 






To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups.
com 
 






Sent: Monday, December
10, 2007 2:36 PM
 






Subject: Balasan: Re:
[obrolan-bandar] Hati2 BUMI mau diguyur
 






  
 








Hati2 Bumi mau diguyur, tuker barang ke ANTM  BMRI
 










Irawan Sudarman [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
wrote:
 












Saya percaya tuh kalau koreksi ke 5500

dasarnya pengharapan




 



On Dec 10, 2007 11:39 AM, OKI SINGGIH oki.singgih@ yahoo.com  wrote:
 













FEELING or HOPING? 
 



  
 



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From: PyRiEL PyRiEL  pyriel.pyriel@ gmail.com

To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups.
com

Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 10:26:05 AM

Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI 
 





dasarnya apa?



 
 






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Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Hati2 BUMI mau diguyur

2007-12-10 Terurut Topik Rei
ML targetkan PTBA 15000, tapi BUMI cuma 2700 yah?
Ada yg janggal? Bukannya BUMI yg banyak export? Saya nggak punya 
BUMI sih...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Irmawan Sadikin 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 Subject: BUMI (TP Rp2,772) - Merrill Lynch: Only for the
 brave and the nimble. Global assumptions on thermal coal price 
raised.
 Assumptions on sales and cost mix refined. Outcome: A mixed bag; 
Neutral
 reiterated. Current share pirce demands US$ 110/t thermal coal
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message 
 From: Hendra Santosa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 3:53:41 PM
 Subject: RE: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Hati2 BUMI mau diguyur
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Berapa TP-nya ML?
  
 
 Thx,
  
 
 HS
  
 
   
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: obrolan-bandar@ 
yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Irmawan Sadikin
 
 Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007
 7:16 PM
 
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 
 Subject: Re: Balasan: Re:
 [obrolan-bandar] Hati2 BUMI mau diguyur
  
 
 
 
 
   
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 ML ngeluaring analisa
 BUMI
 
 
 
 Earnings revision
 
 We have raised core net income by 17% for FY08E and by 16% for 
FY09E.
 
 However, FY10 and FY11 forecasts are cut by 8% and 22%, 
respectively. Our
 
 year-end 2008 DCF estimate has risen by 5% to Rp2,772/sh, still 
55% below the
 
 last closing price of Rp6,150.
 
 
 
 Be safe the road is bumpy
  
 
 
 
 - Original Message
 
 
 From: BEJ Trader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
 
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 
 Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 2:53:34 PM
 
 Subject: Re: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Hati2 BUMI mau diguyur
  
 
 
 
  
  
 
 
 
 Do you really know what you're talking about ?
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message - 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: William
 Tevez 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups.
 com 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Sent: Monday, December
 10, 2007 2:36 PM
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Subject: Balasan: Re:
 [obrolan-bandar] Hati2 BUMI mau diguyur
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Hati2 Bumi mau diguyur, tuker barang ke ANTM  BMRI
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Irawan Sudarman [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
 wrote:
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Saya percaya tuh kalau koreksi ke 5500
 
 dasarnya pengharapan
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 On Dec 10, 2007 11:39 AM, OKI SINGGIH oki.singgih@ yahoo.com  
wrote:
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 FEELING or HOPING? 
  
 
 
 
   
  
 
 
 
 - Original Message
 
 
 From: PyRiEL PyRiEL  pyriel.pyriel@ gmail.com
 
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups.
 com
 
 Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 10:26:05 AM
 
 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 dasarnya apa?
 
 
 
  
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 12/10/07, Vaulstrad [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 yakin BUMI akan naik this week.
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Hati2 BUMI mau diguyur

2007-12-10 Terurut Topik arnold
janggal banget..

separah2nya minyak, spread nya gak akan sejauh itu..

ML against other securities..

salam
arnold

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 ML targetkan PTBA 15000, tapi BUMI cuma 2700 yah?
 Ada yg janggal? Bukannya BUMI yg banyak export? Saya nggak punya 
 BUMI sih...
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Irmawan Sadikin 
 irmawan_sadikin@ wrote:
 
  
  
  Subject: BUMI (TP Rp2,772) - Merrill Lynch: Only for the
  brave and the nimble. Global assumptions on thermal coal price 
 raised.
  Assumptions on sales and cost mix refined. Outcome: A mixed bag; 
 Neutral
  reiterated. Current share pirce demands US$ 110/t thermal coal
  
  
  
  




Re: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Hati2 BUMI mau diguyur

2007-12-10 Terurut Topik bob anti
apakah MO yg sama pada saat ML buang ANTM?


- Original Message 
From: Irmawan Sadikin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 4:07:09 PM
Subject: Re: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Hati2 BUMI mau diguyur

Subject: BUMI (TP Rp2,772) - Merrill Lynch: Only for the brave and the nimble. 
Global assumptions on thermal coal price raised. Assumptions on sales and cost 
mix refined. Outcome: A mixed bag; Neutral reiterated. Current share pirce 
demands US$ 110/t thermal coal



- Original Message 
From: Hendra Santosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] net
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 3:53:41 PM
Subject: RE: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Hati2 BUMI mau diguyur


Berapa TP-nya ML?
Thx,
HS
 



From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. 
com ] On Behalf Of Irmawan Sadikin
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 7:16 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Hati2 BUMI mau diguyur
 
ML ngeluaring analisa BUMI

Earnings revision
We have raised core net income by 17% for FY08E and by 16% for FY09E.
However, FY10 and FY11 forecasts are cut by 8% and 22%, respectively. Our
year-end 2008 DCF estimate has risen by 5% to Rp2,772/sh, still 55% below the
last closing price of Rp6,150.

Be safe the road is bumpy
- Original Message 
From: BEJ Trader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 2:53:34 PM
Subject: Re: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Hati2 BUMI mau diguyur
 
Do you really know what you're talking about ?
 
 
- Original Message - 
From: William Tevez 
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 2:36 PM
Subject: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Hati2 BUMI mau diguyur
 
Hati2 Bumi mau diguyur, tuker barang ke ANTM  BMRI


Irawan Sudarman [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:

Saya percaya tuh kalau koreksi ke 5500
dasarnya pengharapan


On Dec 10, 2007 11:39 AM, OKI SINGGIH oki.singgih@ yahoo.com  wrote:
FEELING or HOPING? 
 
- Original Message 
From: PyRiEL PyRiEL  pyriel.pyriel@ gmail.com
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 10:26:05 AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI 
dasarnya apa?

 
On 12/10/07, Vaulstrad [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: 
Percaya atau tidak, saya yakin BUMI akan naik this week.
 
 
 



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RE: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Hati2 BUMI mau diguyur

2007-12-10 Terurut Topik Hendra Santosa
Ada yang bisa di-share research-nya ML untuk tahu dasar perhitungannya?

Kalau 2772 itu jauh lebih rendah daripada TP ANTM yang 46xx.

 

HS

 

 

  _  

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of arnold
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 8:25 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Hati2 BUMI mau diguyur

 

janggal banget..

separah2nya minyak, spread nya gak akan sejauh itu..

ML against other securities..

salam
arnold

--- In obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 ML targetkan PTBA 15000, tapi BUMI cuma 2700 yah?
 Ada yg janggal? Bukannya BUMI yg banyak export? Saya nggak punya 
 BUMI sih...
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com, Irmawan Sadikin 
 irmawan_sadikin@ wrote:
 
  
  
  Subject: BUMI (TP Rp2,772) - Merrill Lynch: Only for the
  brave and the nimble. Global assumptions on thermal coal price 
 raised.
  Assumptions on sales and cost mix refined. Outcome: A mixed bag; 
 Neutral
  reiterated. Current share pirce demands US$ 110/t thermal coal
  
  
  
  

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Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Hati2 BUMI mau diguyur

2007-12-10 Terurut Topik lk_manz
Wah..ML mah terlalu kebanyakan bikin rumour hanya sekedar utk 
kepentingan clientnya ga masalah reputasi dikorbanin yg penting dia 
cuan sendiri, kita semua agar ingat bagaimana kasus PGAS dulu, ML 
bilang kemahalan2 ternyata pasar menentukan lain PGAS melejit 
teruuu, skrg ANTM kemahalan kemahalan...diem2 dia nampung 
balik di hrg 4500an

Rgds
LKMNZS

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 ML targetkan PTBA 15000, tapi BUMI cuma 2700 yah?
 Ada yg janggal? Bukannya BUMI yg banyak export? Saya nggak punya 
 BUMI sih...
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Irmawan Sadikin 
 irmawan_sadikin@ wrote:
 
  
  
  Subject: BUMI (TP Rp2,772) - Merrill Lynch: Only for the
  brave and the nimble. Global assumptions on thermal coal price 
 raised.
  Assumptions on sales and cost mix refined. Outcome: A mixed bag; 
 Neutral
  reiterated. Current share pirce demands US$ 110/t thermal coal
  
  
  
  
  - Original Message 
  From: Hendra Santosa hendra@
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 3:53:41 PM
  Subject: RE: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Hati2 BUMI mau diguyur
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Berapa TP-nya ML?
   
  
  Thx,
   
  
  HS
   
  

   
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: obrolan-bandar@ 
 yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Irmawan Sadikin
  
  Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007
  7:16 PM
  
  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
  
  Subject: Re: Balasan: Re:
  [obrolan-bandar] Hati2 BUMI mau diguyur
   
  
  
  
  

   
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  ML ngeluaring analisa
  BUMI
  
  
  
  Earnings revision
  
  We have raised core net income by 17% for FY08E and by 16% for 
 FY09E.
  
  However, FY10 and FY11 forecasts are cut by 8% and 22%, 
 respectively. Our
  
  year-end 2008 DCF estimate has risen by 5% to Rp2,772/sh, still 
 55% below the
  
  last closing price of Rp6,150.
  
  
  
  Be safe the road is bumpy
   
  
  
  
  - Original Message
  
  
  From: BEJ Trader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
  
  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
  
  Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 2:53:34 PM
  
  Subject: Re: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Hati2 BUMI mau diguyur
   
  
  
  
   
   
  
  
  
  Do you really know what you're talking about ?
   
  
  
  
  
  
  
   
   
  
  
  
  
  
  
   
   
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  - Original Message - 
   
  
  
  
  
  
  
  From: William
  Tevez 
   
  
  
  
  
  
  
  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups.
  com 
   
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Sent: Monday, December
  10, 2007 2:36 PM
   
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Subject: Balasan: Re:
  [obrolan-bandar] Hati2 BUMI mau diguyur
   
  
  
  
  
  
  

   
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Hati2 Bumi mau diguyur, tuker barang ke ANTM  BMRI
   
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Irawan Sudarman [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
  wrote:
   
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Saya percaya tuh kalau koreksi ke 5500
  
  dasarnya pengharapan
  
  
  
  
   
  
  
  
  On Dec 10, 2007 11:39 AM, OKI SINGGIH oki.singgih@ yahoo.com  
 wrote:
   
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  FEELING or HOPING? 
   
  
  
  

   
  
  
  
  - Original Message
  
  
  From: PyRiEL PyRiEL  pyriel.pyriel@ gmail.com
  
  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups.
  com
  
  Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 10:26:05 AM
  
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI 
   
  
  
  
  
  
  dasarnya apa?
  
  
  
   
   
  
  
  
  
  
  
  On 12/10/07, Vaulstrad [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:
  
   
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Percaya atau tidak, saya
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Re: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Hati2 BUMI mau diguyur

2007-12-10 Terurut Topik Heryadi
Kang Ocoy mungkin bisa bantu ngitungin nich fundamental BUMI.

Salam.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Hendra Santosa 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 4:40 PM
  Subject: RE: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Hati2 BUMI mau diguyur



  Ada yang bisa di-share research-nya ML untuk tahu dasar perhitungannya?

  Kalau 2772 itu jauh lebih rendah daripada TP ANTM yang 46xx.

   

  HS

   

   


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  From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
arnold
  Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 8:25 PM
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Hati2 BUMI mau diguyur

   

  janggal banget..

  separah2nya minyak, spread nya gak akan sejauh itu..

  ML against other securities..

  salam
  arnold

  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  
   ML targetkan PTBA 15000, tapi BUMI cuma 2700 yah?
   Ada yg janggal? Bukannya BUMI yg banyak export? Saya nggak punya 
   BUMI sih...
   
   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Irmawan Sadikin 
   irmawan_sadikin@ wrote:
   


Subject: BUMI (TP Rp2,772) - Merrill Lynch: Only for the
brave and the nimble. Global assumptions on thermal coal price 
   raised.
Assumptions on sales and cost mix refined. Outcome: A mixed bag; 
   Neutral
reiterated. Current share pirce demands US$ 110/t thermal coal






   


RE: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Hati2 BUMI mau diguyur

2007-12-10 Terurut Topik Hendra Santosa
Beberapa yang aneh:

1.  Di websitenya bumiresources 2007 core income bisa naik 61% (setelah
dikurangi penjualan TATA), th 2008 cuma diprediksikan naik 17%? Walaupun
diperkirakan terjadi kenaikan harga coal yang sedemikian tinggi? (malah
sudah disebutkan asumsi coal $110). 95% penjualan th 2006 adalah export.
2.  Perkiraan harga akhir tahun 2008 adalah 2772, padahal sekarang jelas
harga 6000an dan PER nya masih rendah. Mining stock termahal se-universenya
(ANTM) masih dihargai 46xx (dari harga 5000an waktu itu), sementara BUMI
dihargai cuma 2772 (dari harga sekarang 6000). Berarti BUMI super termahal
dari seluruh universe yang pernah terciptakan?

Bingung antara riset beneran atau cuma romor saja ya? Wah kalau rumor semoga
bisa diampuni dosa2nya.

 

HS

 

  _  

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of arnold
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 8:25 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Hati2 BUMI mau diguyur

 

janggal banget..

separah2nya minyak, spread nya gak akan sejauh itu..

ML against other securities..

salam
arnold

--- In obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 ML targetkan PTBA 15000, tapi BUMI cuma 2700 yah?
 Ada yg janggal? Bukannya BUMI yg banyak export? Saya nggak punya 
 BUMI sih...
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com, Irmawan Sadikin 
 irmawan_sadikin@ wrote:
 
  
  
  Subject: BUMI (TP Rp2,772) - Merrill Lynch: Only for the
  brave and the nimble. Global assumptions on thermal coal price 
 raised.
  Assumptions on sales and cost mix refined. Outcome: A mixed bag; 
 Neutral
  reiterated. Current share pirce demands US$ 110/t thermal coal
  
  
  
  

Earnings revision
We have raised core net income by 17% for FY08E and by 16% for FY09E.
However, FY10 and FY11 forecasts are cut by 8% and 22%, respectively. Our
year-end 2008 DCF estimate has risen by 5% to Rp2,772/sh, still 55% below
the
last closing price of Rp6,150.

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