Re: JWB: Re: [ob] Price to Book value saham Bakrie per 4 jan 2010
Tenang aja Kang, ente inggrisnya dah bagus Gw lebih ga ngerti lagi kalau orang russia, india, atau perancis nulis email bahasa inggris. Anyway, sekarang kan ada google language Yang ga ngerti ulasan bahasa inggris, pake aja toolsnya google, masukin textnya dan minta google terjemahin dari inggris ke indo. Gitu aja koq report hehehe 2010/2/22 Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure@gmail.com Default mode-nya diusahakan bahasa indonesia yang simpel. cuman kalo lagi excited sama satu pertanyaan/pernyataan di milis saya suka reply langsung aja apa yg ada dan terlintas di kepala. agak ribet edit-edit dulu sana-sini, apalagi kalo pake hp. ya kan saya anggep aja ngomong di milis sama kaya saya ngomong sama temen-temen. bukan bikin report publikasi ato ngajar di kelas. kalo ada yg tidak nyaman ya mohon maaf dan dipersori aja. sukur2 ada yg mau benerin/jelasin ulang apa yg saya tulis. ato kalo ada waktu berikutnya saya jelasin ulang dengan penjabaran yang lebih simpel. biar sama-sama berbagi dan membetulkan. lebih asik begitu saya rasa. Btw, Japri untuk Pak CC dan kawan2 belon selesai, punten ye. sambil ngolah data-datanya dulu nih soalnya. sabar ya. kalo buat invest mah nyantai aja..
JWB: Re: [ob] Price to Book value saham Bakrie per 4 jan 2010
Kang Bagus.. Punten..abdi ogeh sami mawon. Entiasa bhs england. Kudu kumaha dibacana? Penghartikeun ke bhs Indonesia wae..nya..kang Bagus nu bageur.. Hatur nuhun Salam Kabayan Wkwkwk..milu ngebanyol nya..punten.sing dimaafkeun. --- Sent with System SEVEN - the new generation of mobile messaging -- pesan orisinal -- Subyek: Re: [ob] Price to Book value saham Bakrie per 4 jan 2010 Dari: B_ND nyaham.d...@gmail.com Tanggal: 21-02-2010 16.51 Punten Kan gBagus, Mun tiasa mah di_indonesiakeun wae atuh...dah abdi mah teu pati ngeurti basa inglish.eui..Komo deui mun make istilah-istialh ekonomi kiyeu...Punten pisan nyak Kang Salam, On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure@gmail.com wrote: nowaday a company is worth its cash generating abilities. rarely does it worth its 'balance sheet' unless on a few stripped-off case. Or in some 'overhang' situation its on the 'overhang working-out' condition. One does not simply buy a company and cashing its accounting book value at an exact market price. It could worth more, it could worth less. Its ultimately depends on the quality of the assets. Its cash and liquid assets on hand versus liabilities that need to be settled. It worth its cash generating abilities going forward. amount of new capital-injection needed to keep the business running is a huge factor too. its niche and franchise value.(Those VRIO stuffs.) might justify a premium intangibles valuation. There were three basic questions to resolve : First, what are the true economics of the business? Second, how do the economic compare to the reported earnings? Third, how are the interests of the decision makers aligned with the investors? Problems with UNSP is they were cash-burning and drownin in debt. Huge dillution with a big bet on an unproductive asset. Given the battered price, It may be worth the bet. The domba mas takeover might proves to be a good decision. But everything should be decided by a detail and prudent further assesment. It cant be done only by looking at current BV level. Unfortunetaly, Domba Mas data is unavailable to most of us. I personally prefer to wait 6-10 months from now to get a better after dillution data and facts about domba mas. Things might turn interesting for bakrie if after the RI execution UNSP announced they were withdrawing from domba mas deal. By that they will be hittin double, erasing the overhang on bad asset burden aswell as dilluting other shareholders and still with pile of cash on hand. That would be brilliant move but rather unsportive and tricky. On 21/02/2010, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id wrote: Price to Book value saham Bakrie per 4 jan 2010 Embah barusan buatkan nilai PBV saham saham Bakrie per 4 Jan 2010 yaitu sebelum Right Issue DEWA, ENRG dan UNSP BUMI = 2,1 BNBR = 1,2 ELTY = 0,8 UNSP = 0,8 , (note PBV AALI sekitar 6) BTEL = 0,7 DEWA = 0,6 ENRG = 0,1 Perhitungan ini mohon dicheck kembali, takutnya ada yg salah selengkapnya di: - hhtp://www.investdata.net/QZ93BAK5.TXT -- Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact, everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected...The test of all knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific “truth”. - Richard Feynman + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: JWB: Re: [ob] Price to Book value saham Bakrie per 4 jan 2010
Wah, aing bener2 ga nyahook. Wkakakaka Regards DvD™ In Te Domine, Speravi Non Confundar In Aeternum Powered by Merpati Post® -Original Message- From: ueno_kobaya...@yahoo.co.id ueno_kobaya...@yahoo.co.id Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 02:39:20 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: JWB: Re: [ob] Price to Book value saham Bakrie per 4 jan 2010 Kang Bagus.. Punten..abdi ogeh sami mawon. Entiasa bhs england. Kudu kumaha dibacana? Penghartikeun ke bhs Indonesia wae..nya..kang Bagus nu bageur.. Hatur nuhun Salam Kabayan Wkwkwk..milu ngebanyol nya..punten.sing dimaafkeun. --- Sent with System SEVEN - the new generation of mobile messaging -- pesan orisinal -- Subyek: Re: [ob] Price to Book value saham Bakrie per 4 jan 2010 Dari: B_ND nyaham.d...@gmail.com Tanggal: 21-02-2010 16.51 Punten Kan gBagus, Mun tiasa mah di_indonesiakeun wae atuh...dah abdi mah teu pati ngeurti basa inglish.eui..Komo deui mun make istilah-istialh ekonomi kiyeu...Punten pisan nyak Kang Salam, On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure@gmail.com wrote: nowaday a company is worth its cash generating abilities. rarely does it worth its 'balance sheet' unless on a few stripped-off case. Or in some 'overhang' situation its on the 'overhang working-out' condition. One does not simply buy a company and cashing its accounting book value at an exact market price. It could worth more, it could worth less. Its ultimately depends on the quality of the assets. Its cash and liquid assets on hand versus liabilities that need to be settled. It worth its cash generating abilities going forward. amount of new capital-injection needed to keep the business running is a huge factor too. its niche and franchise value.(Those VRIO stuffs.) might justify a premium intangibles valuation. There were three basic questions to resolve : First, what are the true economics of the business? Second, how do the economic compare to the reported earnings? Third, how are the interests of the decision makers aligned with the investors? Problems with UNSP is they were cash-burning and drownin in debt. Huge dillution with a big bet on an unproductive asset. Given the battered price, It may be worth the bet. The domba mas takeover might proves to be a good decision. But everything should be decided by a detail and prudent further assesment. It cant be done only by looking at current BV level. Unfortunetaly, Domba Mas data is unavailable to most of us. I personally prefer to wait 6-10 months from now to get a better after dillution data and facts about domba mas. Things might turn interesting for bakrie if after the RI execution UNSP announced they were withdrawing from domba mas deal. By that they will be hittin double, erasing the overhang on bad asset burden aswell as dilluting other shareholders and still with pile of cash on hand. That would be brilliant move but rather unsportive and tricky. On 21/02/2010, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id wrote: Price to Book value saham Bakrie per 4 jan 2010 Embah barusan buatkan nilai PBV saham saham Bakrie per 4 Jan 2010 yaitu sebelum Right Issue DEWA, ENRG dan UNSP BUMI = 2,1 BNBR = 1,2 ELTY = 0,8 UNSP = 0,8 , (note PBV AALI sekitar 6) BTEL = 0,7 DEWA = 0,6 ENRG = 0,1 Perhitungan ini mohon dicheck kembali, takutnya ada yg salah selengkapnya di: - hhtp://www.investdata.net/QZ93BAK5.TXT -- Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact, everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected...The test of all knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific “truth”. - Richard Feynman + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: JWB: Re: [ob] Price to Book value saham Bakrie per 4 jan 2010
Tuh AB nyanyi bareng Ruhut di TV-One. Ahaaa. G7 kick back. On Feb 21, 2010, at 19:58, David Lau dj_davi...@yahoo.com wrote: Wah, aing bener2 ga nyahook. Wkakakaka Regards DvD™ In Te Domine, Speravi Non Confundar In Aeternum Powered by Merpati Post® From: ueno_kobaya...@yahoo.co.id ueno_kobaya...@yahoo.co.id Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 02:39:20 -0800 (PST) To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: JWB: Re: [ob] Price to Book value saham Bakrie per 4 jan 2010 Kang Bagus.. Punten..abdi ogeh sami mawon. Entiasa bhs england. Kudu kumaha dibacana? Penghartikeun ke bhs Indonesia wae..nya..kang Bagus nu bageur.. Hatur nuhun Salam Kabayan Wkwkwk..milu ngebanyol nya..punten.sing dimaafkeun. --- Sent with System SEVEN - the new generation of mobile messaging -- pesan orisinal -- Subyek: Re: [ob] Price to Book value saham Bakrie per 4 jan 2010 Dari: B_ND nyaham.d...@gmail.com Tanggal: 21-02-2010 16.51 Punten Kan gBagus, Mun tiasa mah di_indonesiakeun wae atuh...dah abdi mah teu pati ngeurti basa inglish.eui..Komo deui mun make istilah-istialh ekonomi kiyeu...Punten pisan nyak Kang Salam, On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure@gmail.com wrote: nowaday a company is worth its cash generating abilities. rarely does it worth its 'balance sheet' unless on a few stripped-off case. Or in some 'overhang' situation its on the 'overhang working-out' condition. One does not simply buy a company and cashing its accounting book value at an exact market price. It could worth more, it could worth less. Its ultimately depends on the quality of the assets. Its cash and liquid assets on hand versus liabilities that need to be settled. It worth its cash generating abilities going forward. amount of new capital-injection needed to keep the business running is a huge factor too. its niche and franchise value.(Those VRIO stuffs.) might justify a premium intangibles valuation. There were three basic questions to resolve : First, what are the true economics of the business? Second, how do the economic compare to the reported earnings? Third, how are the interests of the decision makers aligned with the investors? Problems with UNSP is they were cash-burning and drownin in debt. Huge dillution with a big bet on an unproductive asset. Given the battered price, It may be worth the bet. The domba mas takeover might proves to be a good decision. But everything should be decided by a detail and prudent further assesment. It cant be done only by looking at current BV level. Unfortunetaly, Domba Mas data is unavailable to most of us. I personally prefer to wait 6-10 months from now to get a better after dillution data and facts about domba mas. Things might turn interesting for bakrie if after the RI execution UNSP announced they were withdrawing from domba mas deal. By that they will be hittin double, erasing the overhang on bad asset burden aswell as dilluting other shareholders and still with pile of cash on hand. That would be brilliant move but rather unsportive and tricky. On 21/02/2010, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id wrote: Price to Book value saham Bakrie per 4 jan 2010 Embah barusan buatkan nilai PBV saham saham Bakrie per 4 Jan 2010 yaitu sebelum Right Issue DEWA, ENRG dan UNSP BUMI = 2,1 BNBR = 1,2 ELTY = 0,8 UNSP = 0,8 , (note PBV AALI sekitar 6) BTEL = 0,7 DEWA = 0,6 ENRG = 0,1 Perhitungan ini mohon dicheck kembali, takutnya ada yg salah selengkapnya di: - hhtp://www.investdata.net/QZ93BAK5.TXT -- Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact, everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected...The test of all knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific “truth”. - Richard Feynman + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Bls: JWB: Re: [ob] Price to Book value saham Bakrie per 4 jan 2010
hehehehee...judul lagu nya juga asyik tuh.. Kemesraan ini...jangan lah Cepat berlalu.. wuakakakakak... tarik. Salam kobayashi Dari: TimurLangit i4...@yahoo.com Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Ming, 21 Februari, 2010 22:08:03 Judul: Re: JWB: Re: [ob] Price to Book value saham Bakrie per 4 jan 2010 Tuh AB nyanyi bareng Ruhut di TV-One. Ahaaa. G7 kick back. On Feb 21, 2010, at 19:58, David Lau dj_davi...@yahoo. com wrote: Wah, aing bener2 ga nyahook. Wkakakaka Regards DvD™ In Te Domine, Speravi Non Confundar In Aeternum Powered by Merpati Post® From: ueno_kobayashi@ yahoo.co. id ueno_kobayashi@ yahoo.co. id Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 02:39:20 -0800 (PST) To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: JWB: Re: [ob] Price to Book value saham Bakrie per 4 jan 2010 Kang Bagus.. Punten..abdi ogeh sami mawon. Entiasa bhs england. Kudu kumaha dibacana? Penghartikeun ke bhs Indonesia wae..nya..kang Bagus nu bageur.. Hatur nuhun Salam Kabayan Wkwkwk..milu ngebanyol nya..punten. sing dimaafkeun. --- Sent with System SEVEN - the new generation of mobile messaging -- pesan orisinal -- Subyek: Re: [ob] Price to Book value saham Bakrie per 4 jan 2010 Dari: B_ND nyaham.dong@ gmail.com Tanggal: 21-02-2010 16.51 Punten Kan gBagus, Mun tiasa mah di_indonesiakeun wae atuh...dah abdi mah teu pati ngeurti basa inglish.eui. .Komo deui mun make istilah-istialh ekonomi kiyeu...Punten pisan nyak Kang Salam, On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure.inc@ gmail.com wrote: nowaday a company is worth its cash generating abilities. rarely does it worth its 'balance sheet' unless on a few stripped-off case. Or in some 'overhang' situation its on the 'overhang working-out' condition. One does not simply buy a company and cashing its accounting book value at an exact market price. It could worth more, it could worth less. Its ultimately depends on the quality of the assets. Its cash and liquid assets on hand versus liabilities that need to be settled. It worth its cash generating abilities going forward. amount of new capital-injection needed to keep the business running is a huge factor too. its niche and franchise value.(Those VRIO stuffs.) might justify a premium intangibles valuation. There were three basic questions to resolve : First, what are the true economics of the business? Second, how do the economic compare to the reported earnings? Third, how are the interests of the decision makers aligned with the investors? Problems with UNSP is they were cash-burning and drownin in debt. Huge dillution with a big bet on an unproductive asset. Given the battered price, It may be worth the bet. The domba mas takeover might proves to be a good decision. But everything should be decided by a detail and prudent further assesment. It cant be done only by looking at current BV level. Unfortunetaly, Domba Mas data is unavailable to most of us. I personally prefer to wait 6-10 months from now to get a better after dillution data and facts about domba mas. Things might turn interesting for bakrie if after the RI execution UNSP announced they were withdrawing from domba mas deal. By that they will be hittin double, erasing the overhang on bad asset burden aswell as dilluting other shareholders and still with pile of cash on hand. That would be brilliant move but rather unsportive and tricky. On 21/02/2010, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id wrote: Price to Book value saham Bakrie per 4 jan 2010 Embah barusan buatkan nilai PBV saham saham Bakrie per 4 Jan 2010 yaitu sebelum Right Issue DEWA, ENRG dan UNSP BUMI = 2,1 BNBR = 1,2 ELTY = 0,8 UNSP = 0,8 , (note PBV AALI sekitar 6) BTEL = 0,7 DEWA = 0,6 ENRG = 0,1 Perhitungan ini mohon dicheck kembali, takutnya ada yg salah selengkapnya di: - hhtp://www.investda ta.net/QZ93BAK5. TXT -- Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact, everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected... The test of all knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific “truth”. - Richard Feynman - - -- + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links Sikap Peduli Lingkungan? Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers. http://id.answers.yahoo.com
Re: JWB: Re: [ob] Price to Book value saham Bakrie per 4 jan 2010
Dear pak bagus, Saya yang sehari2 kerja di perusahaan multinational dan menerima dan mengirim email dalam bahan inggris aja bingung baca tulisan bapak. Komanya ndak dikasih, dan grammar beberapa keliru. Sebaiknya indonesia aja Pak.. Ingat sumpah pemuda.. No hard feeling.. Just my 2 cents.. Salam, ND Powered by NDBerry® -Original Message- From: ueno_kobaya...@yahoo.co.id ueno_kobaya...@yahoo.co.id Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 02:39:20 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: JWB: Re: [ob] Price to Book value saham Bakrie per 4 jan 2010 Kang Bagus.. Punten..abdi ogeh sami mawon. Entiasa bhs england. Kudu kumaha dibacana? Penghartikeun ke bhs Indonesia wae..nya..kang Bagus nu bageur.. Hatur nuhun Salam Kabayan Wkwkwk..milu ngebanyol nya..punten.sing dimaafkeun. --- Sent with System SEVEN - the new generation of mobile messaging -- pesan orisinal -- Subyek: Re: [ob] Price to Book value saham Bakrie per 4 jan 2010 Dari: B_ND nyaham.d...@gmail.com Tanggal: 21-02-2010 16.51 Punten Kan gBagus, Mun tiasa mah di_indonesiakeun wae atuh...dah abdi mah teu pati ngeurti basa inglish.eui..Komo deui mun make istilah-istialh ekonomi kiyeu...Punten pisan nyak Kang Salam, On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure@gmail.com wrote: nowaday a company is worth its cash generating abilities. rarely does it worth its 'balance sheet' unless on a few stripped-off case. Or in some 'overhang' situation its on the 'overhang working-out' condition. One does not simply buy a company and cashing its accounting book value at an exact market price. It could worth more, it could worth less. Its ultimately depends on the quality of the assets. Its cash and liquid assets on hand versus liabilities that need to be settled. It worth its cash generating abilities going forward. amount of new capital-injection needed to keep the business running is a huge factor too. its niche and franchise value.(Those VRIO stuffs.) might justify a premium intangibles valuation. There were three basic questions to resolve : First, what are the true economics of the business? Second, how do the economic compare to the reported earnings? Third, how are the interests of the decision makers aligned with the investors? Problems with UNSP is they were cash-burning and drownin in debt. Huge dillution with a big bet on an unproductive asset. Given the battered price, It may be worth the bet. The domba mas takeover might proves to be a good decision. But everything should be decided by a detail and prudent further assesment. It cant be done only by looking at current BV level. Unfortunetaly, Domba Mas data is unavailable to most of us. I personally prefer to wait 6-10 months from now to get a better after dillution data and facts about domba mas. Things might turn interesting for bakrie if after the RI execution UNSP announced they were withdrawing from domba mas deal. By that they will be hittin double, erasing the overhang on bad asset burden aswell as dilluting other shareholders and still with pile of cash on hand. That would be brilliant move but rather unsportive and tricky. On 21/02/2010, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id wrote: Price to Book value saham Bakrie per 4 jan 2010 Embah barusan buatkan nilai PBV saham saham Bakrie per 4 Jan 2010 yaitu sebelum Right Issue DEWA, ENRG dan UNSP BUMI = 2,1 BNBR = 1,2 ELTY = 0,8 UNSP = 0,8 , (note PBV AALI sekitar 6) BTEL = 0,7 DEWA = 0,6 ENRG = 0,1 Perhitungan ini mohon dicheck kembali, takutnya ada yg salah selengkapnya di: - hhtp://www.investdata.net/QZ93BAK5.TXT -- Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact, everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected...The test of all knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific “truth”. - Richard Feynman + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: JWB: Re: [ob] Price to Book value saham Bakrie per 4 jan 2010
apa yg terlintas di kepala saya ya ditulis aja, masa iya udah pake hp lagi di jalan saya ngedit typo lg. saya kan bukan lagi nulis riset buat atasan. yg penting idea yg terlintas di kepala saya sampaikan. yg bingung kan tinggal pake googletrans ato semacamnya. ato didelete langsung. saya agak sulit mengkompromikan apa yg terlintas di kepala saya dengan extra effort benerin grammar dan typo. apalagi kalo ngetiknya pake hp. kalo ada yg bisa nyampein apa yg saya tulis dengan bahasa yg lebih sederhana silahkan diperbaiki. jadi rumit dan ngaco kan karena keterbatasan ilmu saya. yang ilmunya lebih tinggi silahkan dipaparkan dengan lebih jelas. saya sendiri seneng kalo ada yg bisa kasih elaborasi detail untuk hal hal dan analisa seperti ini dengan bahasa yang lebih simpel. tanpa mengurangi substansi dari idea dan teori yang disampaikan. lebih bisa dimengerti. problemnya saya gak bisa. kurang ilmu mungkin. yang ilmunya lebih tinggi dan lebih ahli tentunya bisa menjabarkan dengan lebih baik. saya gak lagi ngajar di kelas resmi ato bikin report publikasi kan?. justru kalo saya nulis spontan dan impulsif seringkali bisa tertulis tanpa saya filter beberapa teknik idea dan metode investasi yang biasanya kalo saya mesti tulis dengan mikir typo dulu akan saya hapus dan samarkan, would i deliberately share my personal techniques?! lets do ourselves a little favor, next msg button is always one click away. skippin my post might be a better option than havin ur head dizzy and confused. but again, there might be some nice technique and ideas hidden somewhere within my lousy post u wont get anywhere else. i am confidently assured with that. On 21 February 2010 23:12, ND nyariduit...@gmail.com wrote: Dear pak bagus, Saya yang sehari2 kerja di perusahaan multinational dan menerima dan mengirim email dalam bahan inggris aja bingung baca tulisan bapak. Komanya ndak dikasih, dan grammar beberapa keliru. Sebaiknya indonesia aja Pak.. Ingat sumpah pemuda.. No hard feeling.. Just my 2 cents.. Salam, ND Powered by NDBerry® -- *From: * ueno_kobaya...@yahoo.co.id ueno_kobaya...@yahoo.co.id *Date: *Sun, 21 Feb 2010 02:39:20 -0800 (PST) *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *JWB: Re: [ob] Price to Book value saham Bakrie per 4 jan 2010 Kang Bagus.. Punten..abdi ogeh sami mawon. Entiasa bhs england. Kudu kumaha dibacana? Penghartikeun ke bhs Indonesia wae..nya..kang Bagus nu bageur.. Hatur nuhun Salam Kabayan Wkwkwk..milu ngebanyol nya..punten.sing dimaafkeun. --- Sent with System SEVEN - the new generation of mobile messaging -- pesan orisinal -- Subyek: Re: [ob] Price to Book value saham Bakrie per 4 jan 2010 Dari: B_ND nyaham.d...@gmail.com nyaham.dong%40gmail.com Tanggal: 21-02-2010 16.51 Punten Kan gBagus, Mun tiasa mah di_indonesiakeun wae atuh...dah abdi mah teu pati ngeurti basa inglish.eui..Komo deui mun make istilah-istialh ekonomi kiyeu...Punten pisan nyak Kang Salam, On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure@gmail.com disclosure.inc%40gmail.com wrote: nowaday a company is worth its cash generating abilities. rarely does it worth its 'balance sheet' unless on a few stripped-off case. Or in some 'overhang' situation its on the 'overhang working-out' condition. One does not simply buy a company and cashing its accounting book value at an exact market price. It could worth more, it could worth less. Its ultimately depends on the quality of the assets. Its cash and liquid assets on hand versus liabilities that need to be settled. It worth its cash generating abilities going forward. amount of new capital-injection needed to keep the business running is a huge factor too. its niche and franchise value.(Those VRIO stuffs.) might justify a premium intangibles valuation. There were three basic questions to resolve : First, what are the true economics of the business? Second, how do the economic compare to the reported earnings? Third, how are the interests of the decision makers aligned with the investors? Problems with UNSP is they were cash-burning and drownin in debt. Huge dillution with a big bet on an unproductive asset. Given the battered price, It may be worth the bet. The domba mas takeover might proves to be a good decision. But everything should be decided by a detail and prudent further assesment. It cant be done only by looking at current BV level. Unfortunetaly, Domba Mas data is unavailable to most of us. I personally prefer to wait 6-10 months from now to get a better after dillution data and facts about domba mas. Things might turn interesting for bakrie if after the RI execution UNSP announced they were withdrawing from domba mas deal. By that they will be hittin double, erasing the overhang on bad asset burden aswell as dilluting other shareholders and still with pile of cash on hand. That would be brilliant move but rather unsportive
Re: JWB: Re: [ob] Price to Book value saham Bakrie per 4 jan 2010
Just the way u are kang.. Lakukan yg nyaman buat kang ocoy ajah.. Kalo ada yg gak puas, maklum aja Yg bikin puas mah biasanya bini doank Wkwkwk Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...! -Original Message- From: Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure@gmail.com Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 23:42:25 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: JWB: Re: [ob] Price to Book value saham Bakrie per 4 jan 2010 apa yg terlintas di kepala saya ya ditulis aja, masa iya udah pake hp lagi di jalan saya ngedit typo lg. saya kan bukan lagi nulis riset buat atasan. yg penting idea yg terlintas di kepala saya sampaikan. yg bingung kan tinggal pake googletrans ato semacamnya. ato didelete langsung. saya agak sulit mengkompromikan apa yg terlintas di kepala saya dengan extra effort benerin grammar dan typo. apalagi kalo ngetiknya pake hp. kalo ada yg bisa nyampein apa yg saya tulis dengan bahasa yg lebih sederhana silahkan diperbaiki. jadi rumit dan ngaco kan karena keterbatasan ilmu saya. yang ilmunya lebih tinggi silahkan dipaparkan dengan lebih jelas. saya sendiri seneng kalo ada yg bisa kasih elaborasi detail untuk hal hal dan analisa seperti ini dengan bahasa yang lebih simpel. tanpa mengurangi substansi dari idea dan teori yang disampaikan. lebih bisa dimengerti. problemnya saya gak bisa. kurang ilmu mungkin. yang ilmunya lebih tinggi dan lebih ahli tentunya bisa menjabarkan dengan lebih baik. saya gak lagi ngajar di kelas resmi ato bikin report publikasi kan?. justru kalo saya nulis spontan dan impulsif seringkali bisa tertulis tanpa saya filter beberapa teknik idea dan metode investasi yang biasanya kalo saya mesti tulis dengan mikir typo dulu akan saya hapus dan samarkan, would i deliberately share my personal techniques?! lets do ourselves a little favor, next msg button is always one click away. skippin my post might be a better option than havin ur head dizzy and confused. but again, there might be some nice technique and ideas hidden somewhere within my lousy post u wont get anywhere else. i am confidently assured with that. On 21 February 2010 23:12, ND nyariduit...@gmail.com wrote: Dear pak bagus, Saya yang sehari2 kerja di perusahaan multinational dan menerima dan mengirim email dalam bahan inggris aja bingung baca tulisan bapak. Komanya ndak dikasih, dan grammar beberapa keliru. Sebaiknya indonesia aja Pak.. Ingat sumpah pemuda.. No hard feeling.. Just my 2 cents.. Salam, ND Powered by NDBerry® -- *From: * ueno_kobaya...@yahoo.co.id ueno_kobaya...@yahoo.co.id *Date: *Sun, 21 Feb 2010 02:39:20 -0800 (PST) *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *JWB: Re: [ob] Price to Book value saham Bakrie per 4 jan 2010 Kang Bagus.. Punten..abdi ogeh sami mawon. Entiasa bhs england. Kudu kumaha dibacana? Penghartikeun ke bhs Indonesia wae..nya..kang Bagus nu bageur.. Hatur nuhun Salam Kabayan Wkwkwk..milu ngebanyol nya..punten.sing dimaafkeun. --- Sent with System SEVEN - the new generation of mobile messaging -- pesan orisinal -- Subyek: Re: [ob] Price to Book value saham Bakrie per 4 jan 2010 Dari: B_ND nyaham.d...@gmail.com nyaham.dong%40gmail.com Tanggal: 21-02-2010 16.51 Punten Kan gBagus, Mun tiasa mah di_indonesiakeun wae atuh...dah abdi mah teu pati ngeurti basa inglish.eui..Komo deui mun make istilah-istialh ekonomi kiyeu...Punten pisan nyak Kang Salam, On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure@gmail.com disclosure.inc%40gmail.com wrote: nowaday a company is worth its cash generating abilities. rarely does it worth its 'balance sheet' unless on a few stripped-off case. Or in some 'overhang' situation its on the 'overhang working-out' condition. One does not simply buy a company and cashing its accounting book value at an exact market price. It could worth more, it could worth less. Its ultimately depends on the quality of the assets. Its cash and liquid assets on hand versus liabilities that need to be settled. It worth its cash generating abilities going forward. amount of new capital-injection needed to keep the business running is a huge factor too. its niche and franchise value.(Those VRIO stuffs.) might justify a premium intangibles valuation. There were three basic questions to resolve : First, what are the true economics of the business? Second, how do the economic compare to the reported earnings? Third, how are the interests of the decision makers aligned with the investors? Problems with UNSP is they were cash-burning and drownin in debt. Huge dillution with a big bet on an unproductive asset. Given the battered price, It may be worth the bet. The domba mas takeover might proves to be a good decision. But everything should be decided by a detail and prudent further assesment. It cant be done only by looking at current BV level. Unfortunetaly, Domba Mas data is unavailable to most of us. I
Re: JWB: Re: [ob] Price to Book value saham Bakrie per 4 jan 2010
Ya Kang Bagus, biar kami aja yang beradaptasi, sambil nunggu Bos DE lepas dari keasyikannya di scripting, sehingga bisa menterjemahkan dalam bahas gaul Your time and your bright thogh is too valuable for us to ask more. But we always appreciate so much kalau Kang Bagus teringat untuk membahasa indonesiakannya right away. Timur From: pyriel.pyr...@gmail.com pyriel.pyr...@gmail.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, February 22, 2010 12:04:03 AM Subject: Re: JWB: Re: [ob] Price to Book value saham Bakrie per 4 jan 2010 Just the way u are kang.. Lakukan yg nyaman buat kang ocoy ajah.. Kalo ada yg gak puas, maklum aja Yg bikin puas mah biasanya bini doank Wkwkwk Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss... ! From: Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure.inc@ gmail.com Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 23:42:25 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: JWB: Re: [ob] Price to Book value saham Bakrie per 4 jan 2010 apa yg terlintas di kepala saya ya ditulis aja, masa iya udah pake hp lagi di jalan saya ngedit typo lg. saya kan bukan lagi nulis riset buat atasan. yg penting idea yg terlintas di kepala saya sampaikan. yg bingung kan tinggal pake googletrans ato semacamnya. ato didelete langsung. saya agak sulit mengkompromikan apa yg terlintas di kepala saya dengan extra effort benerin grammar dan typo. apalagi kalo ngetiknya pake hp. kalo ada yg bisa nyampein apa yg saya tulis dengan bahasa yg lebih sederhana silahkan diperbaiki. jadi rumit dan ngaco kan karena keterbatasan ilmu saya. yang ilmunya lebih tinggi silahkan dipaparkan dengan lebih jelas. saya sendiri seneng kalo ada yg bisa kasih elaborasi detail untuk hal hal dan analisa seperti ini dengan bahasa yang lebih simpel. tanpa mengurangi substansi dari idea dan teori yang disampaikan. lebih bisa dimengerti. problemnya saya gak bisa. kurang ilmu mungkin. yang ilmunya lebih tinggi dan lebih ahli tentunya bisa menjabarkan dengan lebih baik. saya gak lagi ngajar di kelas resmi ato bikin report publikasi kan?. justru kalo saya nulis spontan dan impulsif seringkali bisa tertulis tanpa saya filter beberapa teknik idea dan metode investasi yang biasanya kalo saya mesti tulis dengan mikir typo dulu akan saya hapus dan samarkan, would i deliberately share my personal techniques?! lets do ourselves a little favor, next msg button is always one click away. skippin my post might be a better option than havin ur head dizzy and confused. but again, there might be some nice technique and ideas hidden somewhere within my lousy post u wont get anywhere else. i am confidently assured with that. On 21 February 2010 23:12, ND nyariduit153@ gmail.com wrote: Dear pak bagus, Saya yang sehari2 kerja di perusahaan multinational dan menerima dan mengirim email dalam bahan inggris aja bingung baca tulisan bapak. Komanya ndak dikasih, dan grammar beberapa keliru. Sebaiknya indonesia aja Pak.. Ingat sumpah pemuda.. No hard feeling.. Just my 2 cents.. Salam, ND Powered by NDBerry® From: ueno_kobayashi@ yahoo.co. id ueno_kobayashi@ yahoo.co. id Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 02:39:20 -0800 (PST) To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: JWB: Re: [ob] Price to Book value saham Bakrie per 4 jan 2010 Kang Bagus.. Punten..abdi ogeh sami mawon. Entiasa bhs england. Kudu kumaha dibacana? Penghartikeun ke bhs Indonesia wae..nya..kang Bagus nu bageur.. Hatur nuhun Salam Kabayan Wkwkwk..milu ngebanyol nya..punten. sing dimaafkeun. --- Sent with System SEVEN - the new generation of mobile messaging -- pesan orisinal -- Subyek: Re: [ob] Price to Book value saham Bakrie per 4 jan 2010 Dari: B_ND nyaham.dong@ gmail.com Tanggal: 21-02-2010 16.51 Punten Kan gBagus, Mun tiasa mah di_indonesiakeun wae atuh...dah abdi mah teu pati ngeurti basa inglish.eui. .Komo deui mun make istilah-istialh ekonomi kiyeu...Punten pisan nyak Kang Salam, On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure.inc@ gmail.com wrote: nowaday a company is worth its cash generating abilities. rarely does it worth its 'balance sheet' unless on a few stripped-off case. Or in some 'overhang' situation its on the 'overhang working-out' condition. One does not simply buy a company and cashing its accounting book value at an exact market price. It could worth more, it could worth less. Its ultimately depends on the quality of the assets. Its cash and liquid assets on hand versus liabilities that need to be settled. It worth its cash generating abilities going forward. amount of new capital-injection needed to keep the business running is a huge factor too. its niche and franchise value.(Those VRIO stuffs.) might justify a premium intangibles valuation. There were three basic questions to resolve : First, what are the true economics of the business? Second, how do the economic compare to the reported
Re: JWB: Re: [ob] Price to Book value saham Bakrie per 4 jan 2010
OKE lah kalo begitu Kang Bagus, Saya sependapat saja dengan mas TImur, biar kami yang beradaptasi. Terima kasih sudah sharing di sini. Saya akan coba belajar bahasa Inggris lebih baik lagi terutama hal berbau ekonomi supaya bisa ngerti postingan Kang Bagus. Salam, On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 7:35 AM, TimurLangit i4...@yahoo.com wrote: Ya Kang Bagus, biar kami aja yang beradaptasi, sambil nunggu Bos DE lepas dari keasyikannya di scripting, sehingga bisa menterjemahkan dalam bahas gaul Your time and your bright thogh is too valuable for us to ask more. But we always appreciate so much kalau Kang Bagus teringat untuk membahasa indonesiakannya right away. Timur -- *From:* pyriel.pyr...@gmail.com pyriel.pyr...@gmail.com *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Mon, February 22, 2010 12:04:03 AM *Subject:* Re: JWB: Re: [ob] Price to Book value saham Bakrie per 4 jan 2010 Just the way u are kang.. Lakukan yg nyaman buat kang ocoy ajah.. Kalo ada yg gak puas, maklum aja Yg bikin puas mah biasanya bini doank Wkwkwk Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss... ! -- *From: *Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure.inc@ gmail.com *Date: *Sun, 21 Feb 2010 23:42:25 +0700 *To: *obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com *Subject: *Re: JWB: Re: [ob] Price to Book value saham Bakrie per 4 jan 2010 apa yg terlintas di kepala saya ya ditulis aja, masa iya udah pake hp lagi di jalan saya ngedit typo lg. saya kan bukan lagi nulis riset buat atasan. yg penting idea yg terlintas di kepala saya sampaikan. yg bingung kan tinggal pake googletrans ato semacamnya. ato didelete langsung. saya agak sulit mengkompromikan apa yg terlintas di kepala saya dengan extra effort benerin grammar dan typo. apalagi kalo ngetiknya pake hp. kalo ada yg bisa nyampein apa yg saya tulis dengan bahasa yg lebih sederhana silahkan diperbaiki. jadi rumit dan ngaco kan karena keterbatasan ilmu saya. yang ilmunya lebih tinggi silahkan dipaparkan dengan lebih jelas. saya sendiri seneng kalo ada yg bisa kasih elaborasi detail untuk hal hal dan analisa seperti ini dengan bahasa yang lebih simpel. tanpa mengurangi substansi dari idea dan teori yang disampaikan. lebih bisa dimengerti. problemnya saya gak bisa. kurang ilmu mungkin. yang ilmunya lebih tinggi dan lebih ahli tentunya bisa menjabarkan dengan lebih baik. saya gak lagi ngajar di kelas resmi ato bikin report publikasi kan?. justru kalo saya nulis spontan dan impulsif seringkali bisa tertulis tanpa saya filter beberapa teknik idea dan metode investasi yang biasanya kalo saya mesti tulis dengan mikir typo dulu akan saya hapus dan samarkan, would i deliberately share my personal techniques?! lets do ourselves a little favor, next msg button is always one click away. skippin my post might be a better option than havin ur head dizzy and confused. but again, there might be some nice technique and ideas hidden somewhere within my lousy post u wont get anywhere else. i am confidently assured with that. On 21 February 2010 23:12, ND nyariduit153@ gmail.comnyariduit...@gmail.com wrote: Dear pak bagus, Saya yang sehari2 kerja di perusahaan multinational dan menerima dan mengirim email dalam bahan inggris aja bingung baca tulisan bapak. Komanya ndak dikasih, dan grammar beberapa keliru. Sebaiknya indonesia aja Pak.. Ingat sumpah pemuda.. No hard feeling.. Just my 2 cents.. Salam, ND Powered by NDBerry® -- *From: *ueno_kobayashi@ yahoo.co. id ueno_kobaya...@yahoo.co.id ueno_kobayashi@ yahoo.co. id ueno_kobaya...@yahoo.co.id *Date: *Sun, 21 Feb 2010 02:39:20 -0800 (PST) *To: *obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *JWB: Re: [ob] Price to Book value saham Bakrie per 4 jan 2010 Kang Bagus.. Punten..abdi ogeh sami mawon. Entiasa bhs england. Kudu kumaha dibacana? Penghartikeun ke bhs Indonesia wae..nya..kang Bagus nu bageur.. Hatur nuhun Salam Kabayan Wkwkwk..milu ngebanyol nya..punten. sing dimaafkeun. --- Sent with System SEVEN - the new generation of mobile messaging -- pesan orisinal -- Subyek: Re: [ob] Price to Book value saham Bakrie per 4 jan 2010 Dari: B_ND nyaham.dong@ gmail.com nyaham.dong%40gmail.com Tanggal: 21-02-2010 16.51 Punten Kan gBagus, Mun tiasa mah di_indonesiakeun wae atuh...dah abdi mah teu pati ngeurti basa inglish.eui. .Komo deui mun make istilah-istialh ekonomi kiyeu...Punten pisan nyak Kang Salam, On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure.inc@ gmail.com disclosure.inc%40gmail.com wrote: nowaday a company is worth its cash generating abilities. rarely does it worth its 'balance sheet' unless on a few stripped-off case. Or in some 'overhang' situation its on the 'overhang working-out' condition. One does not simply buy a company and cashing its accounting book value at an exact market price
Re: JWB: Re: [ob] Price to Book value saham Bakrie per 4 jan 2010
Default mode-nya diusahakan bahasa indonesia yang simpel. cuman kalo lagi excited sama satu pertanyaan/pernyataan di milis saya suka reply langsung aja apa yg ada dan terlintas di kepala. agak ribet edit-edit dulu sana-sini, apalagi kalo pake hp. ya kan saya anggep aja ngomong di milis sama kaya saya ngomong sama temen-temen. bukan bikin report publikasi ato ngajar di kelas. kalo ada yg tidak nyaman ya mohon maaf dan dipersori aja. sukur2 ada yg mau benerin/jelasin ulang apa yg saya tulis. ato kalo ada waktu berikutnya saya jelasin ulang dengan penjabaran yang lebih simpel. biar sama-sama berbagi dan membetulkan. lebih asik begitu saya rasa. Btw, Japri untuk Pak CC dan kawan2 belon selesai, punten ye. sambil ngolah data-datanya dulu nih soalnya. sabar ya. kalo buat invest mah nyantai aja.. On 22 February 2010 06:56, B_ND nyaham.d...@gmail.com wrote: OKE lah kalo begitu Kang Bagus, Saya sependapat saja dengan mas TImur, biar kami yang beradaptasi. Terima kasih sudah sharing di sini. Saya akan coba belajar bahasa Inggris lebih baik lagi terutama hal berbau ekonomi supaya bisa ngerti postingan Kang Bagus. Salam, On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 7:35 AM, TimurLangit i4...@yahoo.com wrote: Ya Kang Bagus, biar kami aja yang beradaptasi, sambil nunggu Bos DE lepas dari keasyikannya di scripting, sehingga bisa menterjemahkan dalam bahas gaul Your time and your bright thogh is too valuable for us to ask more. But we always appreciate so much kalau Kang Bagus teringat untuk membahasa indonesiakannya right away. Timur -- Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact, everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected... The test of all knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific “truth”. - Richard Feynman -- Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact, everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected...The test of all knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific “truth”. - Richard Feynman
Re: JWB: Re: [ob] Price to Book value saham Bakrie per 4 jan 2010
saya dukung Kang Bagus, bhs inggris ga apa2 drpd nanti yg di kepala malah tidak tertuang tp, stlh itu diterjemahkan lagi di bhs indonesia... hahaha.. teuteup... salam sukses selalu kang 2010/2/22 Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure@gmail.com Default mode-nya diusahakan bahasa indonesia yang simpel. cuman kalo lagi excited sama satu pertanyaan/pernyataan di milis saya suka reply langsung aja apa yg ada dan terlintas di kepala. agak ribet edit-edit dulu sana-sini, apalagi kalo pake hp. ya kan saya anggep aja ngomong di milis sama kaya saya ngomong sama temen-temen. bukan bikin report publikasi ato ngajar di kelas. kalo ada yg tidak nyaman ya mohon maaf dan dipersori aja. sukur2 ada yg mau benerin/jelasin ulang apa yg saya tulis. ato kalo ada waktu berikutnya saya jelasin ulang dengan penjabaran yang lebih simpel. biar sama-sama berbagi dan membetulkan. lebih asik begitu saya rasa. Btw, Japri untuk Pak CC dan kawan2 belon selesai, punten ye. sambil ngolah data-datanya dulu nih soalnya. sabar ya. kalo buat invest mah nyantai aja.. On 22 February 2010 06:56, B_ND nyaham.d...@gmail.com wrote: OKE lah kalo begitu Kang Bagus, Saya sependapat saja dengan mas TImur, biar kami yang beradaptasi. Terima kasih sudah sharing di sini. Saya akan coba belajar bahasa Inggris lebih baik lagi terutama hal berbau ekonomi supaya bisa ngerti postingan Kang Bagus. Salam, On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 7:35 AM, TimurLangit i4...@yahoo.com wrote: Ya Kang Bagus, biar kami aja yang beradaptasi, sambil nunggu Bos DE lepas dari keasyikannya di scripting, sehingga bisa menterjemahkan dalam bahas gaul Your time and your bright thogh is too valuable for us to ask more. But we always appreciate so much kalau Kang Bagus teringat untuk membahasa indonesiakannya right away. Timur -- Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact, everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected... The test of all knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific “truth”. - Richard Feynman -- Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact, everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected...The test of all knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific “truth”. - Richard Feynman
Re: JWB: Re: [ob] Price to Book value saham Bakrie per 4 jan 2010
Hmmm.. japri utk Pak CC dan kawan2... jangan lupa dan kawan2 nya termasuk saya yah Kang. Hatur nuhun pisan From: Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure@gmail.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, February 22, 2010 8:09:21 AM Subject: Re: JWB: Re: [ob] Price to Book value saham Bakrie per 4 jan 2010 Default mode-nya diusahakan bahasa indonesia yang simpel. cuman kalo lagi excited sama satu pertanyaan/pernyata an di milis saya suka reply langsung aja apa yg ada dan terlintas di kepala. agak ribet edit-edit dulu sana-sini, apalagi kalo pake hp. ya kan saya anggep aja ngomong di milis sama kaya saya ngomong sama temen-temen. bukan bikin report publikasi ato ngajar di kelas. kalo ada yg tidak nyaman ya mohon maaf dan dipersori aja. sukur2 ada yg mau benerin/jelasin ulang apa yg saya tulis. ato kalo ada waktu berikutnya saya jelasin ulang dengan penjabaran yang lebih simpel. biar sama-sama berbagi dan membetulkan. lebih asik begitu saya rasa. Btw, Japri untuk Pak CC dan kawan2 belon selesai, punten ye. sambil ngolah data-datanya dulu nih soalnya. sabar ya. kalo buat invest mah nyantai aja.. On 22 February 2010 06:56, B_ND nyaham.dong@ gmail.com wrote: OKE lah kalo begitu Kang Bagus, Saya sependapat saja dengan mas TImur, biar kami yang beradaptasi. Terima kasih sudah sharing di sini. Saya akan coba belajar bahasa Inggris lebih baik lagi terutama hal berbau ekonomi supaya bisa ngerti postingan Kang Bagus. Salam, On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 7:35 AM, TimurLangit i4...@yahoo. com wrote: Ya Kang Bagus, biar kami aja yang beradaptasi, sambil nunggu Bos DE lepas dari keasyikannya di scripting, sehingga bisa menterjemahkan dalam bahas gaul Your time and your bright thogh is too valuable for us to ask more. But we always appreciate so much kalau Kang Bagus teringat untuk membahasa indonesiakannya right away. Timur -- Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact, everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected... The test of all knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific “truth”. - Richard Feynman -- Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact, everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected... The test of all knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific “truth”. - Richard Feynman
