[obrolan-bandar] (ELAINE) Re: Prediksi Saham tgl 5 Januari 2009

2009-01-04 Terurut Topik FromBuitenzorg
A Noob ? ...hehehe UTY :)
But 'm, only a man behind the 'hidden' gun

GBU

Rgrds




Elaine Sui elainesu...@... wrote:

 *I guess  you're right. You're a noob. Sorry. [?]
 
 Elaine**
 *
 2009/1/4 FromBuitenzorg frombuitenz...@...
 
  Hi Sexy,
  Thanks, I'm just newbie based on Nov posting, coz in the past I
  did'nt have enough time to monitor thid OB, ... due to market
  growth :)
 
  Btw, your answer is not bad, it's only a small element of leading
  economic indicator reflected in a number unit of 
housing/constraction
  activity ..up or down, it's just an example of the leading 
economic
  indicator. But remember, there is out there, a number copper
  substitute, ask constraction engineer.
 
  That's all debatable hehehe ... CAPEK DEH...
 
  Back to laptop for tommorow Jan 5...
 
  Regards
 
 
  Elaine Sui elainesui83@ wrote:
  
   *The answer is 'a', Copper spot price. Copper is the most widely
  used metal,
   mainly for electricity. The chief commercial use of copper is 
based
  on its
   electrical conductivity (second only to that of silver); about 
half
  the
   total annual output of copper is employed in the manufacture of
  electrical
   apparatus and wire.
  
   Copper is also used extensively as roofing, in making copper
  utensils, and
   for coins and metalwork. Copper tubing is used in plumbing, and,
  because of
   its high heat conductivity, in heat-exchanging devices such as
  refrigerator
   and air-conditioner coils. Powdered copper is sometimes used as 
a
  pigment in
   paints.
  
   An important use of copper is in alloys such as brass, bronze,
  gunmetal,
   Monel metal, and German silver. Compounds of copper are widely 
used
  as
   insecticides and fungicides; as pigments in paints; as mordants
  (fixatives)
   in dyeing; and in electroplating.*
   *
   You aren't newbie, cuz your answer is the same as any economist
  would give.
   [?]. Ask Embah if you don't believe me.
   **
   Elaine**
   *
   2009/1/4 FromBuitenzorg frombuitenzorg@
  
Ohhh no ! Your questions intimidate newbie like me who is 
still
learning more abt macro-ec hahahaha I'm not 
economist ...
  not
expert, ask them.
   
I think you can answer yourself honey, because I bet you know 
more
about  Leading Economic Indicator that will change direction
  before
the economy begins to change  :))
   
None can predict accurately - the future economic growth-
  Underlined -
- FUTURE
   
But I or you ,maybe simply, have a kind of indicator that 
could be
indicators for future economic growth ?? Say that Stock 
Index-
common stocks traded on the IDX or NYSE etc.
   
Bullish or bearish of the stocks price / index will be good
  indicator
of the future economic growth. Whether the movement of stocks 
hv
  long
or short time bullish/bearish will affect market and 
investor'
sentiment. They will assume the future growth, but don't 
forget
  the
interest rates movement ... hehehe
   
Regards
   
   
Elaine Sui elainesui83@ wrote:

 *Answer this, noob. [?] Which one is commonly used to 
measure
**future
 economic growth:
 a. Copper spot price
 b. Crude Oil
 c. Consumer price index
 d. GDP
 e. none above

 I bet you can't answer that.

 Elaine
 **
 *2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg frombuitenzorg@

  I'd like to appreciate your views dan comments honey, but 
I'm
still
  newbie on my nov first posting :)
 
  Btw, Have a Nice weekend.
 
  Regards
 
 
  Elaine Sui elainesui83@ wrote:
  
   *You're not new around here, are you? well whoever you 
were,
  welcome back
   but you don't have to play noob lol fgod sake.. [?]
  
   Elaine**
   *
   2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg frombuitenzorg@
  
Ic honey, I actually use both, TA  FA, plus learning 
more
macro-
econ, global commodties  market trend ...
   
   
Regards
   
   
Elaine Sui elainesui83@ wrote:

 *You know, most ppl is actually losing money by 
using
technical
because they
 don't really know how to use it. Technical is like a
  hand
gun,
  it
can save
 your life, or make yourself killed.

 It's the man behind the gun.. (lol now where did I 
ever
  hear
  that
before..)

 Elaine**
 *
 2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg frombuitenzorg@

  Benar Pak gak usah takut dikatakan bodo, pede aja
  walau
kalah
  sama
  senior2, namanya belajar, kalo meleset wajar
 
  Mungkin saya termasuk 'Newbie' ya karena pertama 
kali
posting
  baru
  mulai tgl 24 nop 2008, salah biasa :)
 
  Peace
 
  Regards
 
 
 
  ruzli indeksbei3000@ wrote:
  
   Namanya belajar sih ga ada bodo nya Pak Y, 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] (ELAINE) Re: Prediksi Saham tgl 5 Januari 2009

2009-01-04 Terurut Topik Elaine Sui
*Okay, you're a man behind the 'hidden' gun. I'm sorry if I offended you. I
thought you were someone else I know.

What's UTY, dear?

Elaine**
*
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:27 PM, FromBuitenzorg frombuitenz...@yahoo.comwrote:

 A Noob ? ...hehehe UTY :)
 But 'm, only a man behind the 'hidden' gun

 GBU

 Rgrds




 Elaine Sui elainesu...@... wrote:
 
  *I guess  you're right. You're a noob. Sorry. [?]
 
  Elaine**
  *
  2009/1/4 FromBuitenzorg frombuitenz...@...
 
   Hi Sexy,
   Thanks, I'm just newbie based on Nov posting, coz in the past I
   did'nt have enough time to monitor thid OB, ... due to market
   growth :)
  
   Btw, your answer is not bad, it's only a small element of leading
   economic indicator reflected in a number unit of
 housing/constraction
   activity ..up or down, it's just an example of the leading
 economic
   indicator. But remember, there is out there, a number copper
   substitute, ask constraction engineer.
  
   That's all debatable hehehe ... CAPEK DEH...
  
   Back to laptop for tommorow Jan 5...
  
   Regards
  
  
   Elaine Sui elainesui83@ wrote:
   
*The answer is 'a', Copper spot price. Copper is the most widely
   used metal,
mainly for electricity. The chief commercial use of copper is
 based
   on its
electrical conductivity (second only to that of silver); about
 half
   the
total annual output of copper is employed in the manufacture of
   electrical
apparatus and wire.
   
Copper is also used extensively as roofing, in making copper
   utensils, and
for coins and metalwork. Copper tubing is used in plumbing, and,
   because of
its high heat conductivity, in heat-exchanging devices such as
   refrigerator
and air-conditioner coils. Powdered copper is sometimes used as
 a
   pigment in
paints.
   
An important use of copper is in alloys such as brass, bronze,
   gunmetal,
Monel metal, and German silver. Compounds of copper are widely
 used
   as
insecticides and fungicides; as pigments in paints; as mordants
   (fixatives)
in dyeing; and in electroplating.*
*
You aren't newbie, cuz your answer is the same as any economist
   would give.
[?]. Ask Embah if you don't believe me.
**
Elaine**
*
2009/1/4 FromBuitenzorg frombuitenzorg@
   
 Ohhh no ! Your questions intimidate newbie like me who is
 still
 learning more abt macro-ec hahahaha I'm not
 economist ...
   not
 expert, ask them.

 I think you can answer yourself honey, because I bet you know
 more
 about  Leading Economic Indicator that will change direction
   before
 the economy begins to change  :))

 None can predict accurately - the future economic growth-
   Underlined -
 - FUTURE

 But I or you ,maybe simply, have a kind of indicator that
 could be
 indicators for future economic growth ?? Say that Stock
 Index-
 common stocks traded on the IDX or NYSE etc.

 Bullish or bearish of the stocks price / index will be good
   indicator
 of the future economic growth. Whether the movement of stocks
 hv
   long
 or short time bullish/bearish will affect market and
 investor'
 sentiment. They will assume the future growth, but don't
 forget
   the
 interest rates movement ... hehehe

 Regards


 Elaine Sui elainesui83@ wrote:
 
  *Answer this, noob. [?] Which one is commonly used to
 measure
 **future
  economic growth:
  a. Copper spot price
  b. Crude Oil
  c. Consumer price index
  d. GDP
  e. none above
 
  I bet you can't answer that.
 
  Elaine
  **
  *2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg frombuitenzorg@
 
   I'd like to appreciate your views dan comments honey, but
 I'm
 still
   newbie on my nov first posting :)
  
   Btw, Have a Nice weekend.
  
   Regards
  
  
   Elaine Sui elainesui83@ wrote:
   
*You're not new around here, are you? well whoever you
 were,
   welcome back
but you don't have to play noob lol fgod sake.. [?]
   
Elaine**
*
2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg frombuitenzorg@
   
 Ic honey, I actually use both, TA  FA, plus learning
 more
 macro-
 econ, global commodties  market trend ...


 Regards


 Elaine Sui elainesui83@ wrote:
 
  *You know, most ppl is actually losing money by
 using
 technical
 because they
  don't really know how to use it. Technical is like a
   hand
 gun,
   it
 can save
  your life, or make yourself killed.
 
  It's the man behind the gun.. (lol now where did I
 ever
   hear
   that
 before..)
 
  Elaine**
  *
  2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg frombuitenzorg@
 
   Benar Pak gak usah takut dikatakan bodo, pede aja
   walau
 kalah
   sama

[obrolan-bandar] (ELAINE) Re: Prediksi Saham tgl 5 Januari 2009

2009-01-04 Terurut Topik FromBuitenzorg
Elaine Sui elainesu...@... wrote:

 *Okay, you're a man behind the man which also behind the gun. WHAT 
are you
 doing exactly in a man's behind? [?] lllooolll...
 
 Sorry, bad joke. [?]err.. good night, Buitenzorg. [?]
 
 Elaine**



Hehehe ... keep the man which also behind the gun working properly 
honey :)

But don't ask the economics size ,  of IHSG, not gun.

See the IHSG movement now...

Regards




[obrolan-bandar] (ELAINE) Re: Prediksi Saham tgl 5 Januari 2009

2009-01-03 Terurut Topik FromBuitenzorg
Ohhh no ! Your questions intimidate newbie like me who is still 
learning more abt macro-ec hahahaha I'm not economist ... not 
expert, ask them.

I think you can answer yourself honey, because I bet you know more 
about  Leading Economic Indicator that will change direction before 
the economy begins to change  :))

None can predict accurately - the future economic growth- Underlined -
- FUTURE

But I or you ,maybe simply, have a kind of indicator that could be 
indicators for future economic growth ?? Say that Stock Index-  
common stocks traded on the IDX or NYSE etc. 

Bullish or bearish of the stocks price / index will be good indicator 
of the future economic growth. Whether the movement of stocks hv long 
or short time bullish/bearish will affect market and investor' 
sentiment. They will assume the future growth, but don't forget the 
interest rates movement ... hehehe

Regards


Elaine Sui elainesu...@... wrote:

 *Answer this, noob. [?] Which one is commonly used to measure 
**future
 economic growth:
 a. Copper spot price
 b. Crude Oil
 c. Consumer price index
 d. GDP
 e. none above
 
 I bet you can't answer that.
 
 Elaine
 **
 *2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg frombuitenz...@...
 
  I'd like to appreciate your views dan comments honey, but I'm 
still
  newbie on my nov first posting :)
 
  Btw, Have a Nice weekend.
 
  Regards
 
 
  Elaine Sui elainesui83@ wrote:
  
   *You're not new around here, are you? well whoever you were,
  welcome back
   but you don't have to play noob lol fgod sake.. [?]
  
   Elaine**
   *
   2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg frombuitenzorg@
  
Ic honey, I actually use both, TA  FA, plus learning more 
macro-
econ, global commodties  market trend ...
   
   
Regards
   
   
Elaine Sui elainesui83@ wrote:

 *You know, most ppl is actually losing money by using 
technical
because they
 don't really know how to use it. Technical is like a hand 
gun,
  it
can save
 your life, or make yourself killed.

 It's the man behind the gun.. (lol now where did I ever hear
  that
before..)

 Elaine**
 *
 2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg frombuitenzorg@

  Benar Pak gak usah takut dikatakan bodo, pede aja walau 
kalah
  sama
  senior2, namanya belajar, kalo meleset wajar
 
  Mungkin saya termasuk 'Newbie' ya karena pertama kali 
posting
  baru
  mulai tgl 24 nop 2008, salah biasa :)
 
  Peace
 
  Regards
 
 
 
  ruzli indeksbei3000@ wrote:
  
   Namanya belajar sih ga ada bodo nya Pak Y, sy jg mau 
post
  chart
  sektor
   banking tp takut kelihatan bodonya sm senior2 
disini : .
  Kalau
di
   chart sy, BBRI dan BMRI ada Divergence Negatif antara 
Price
  
  Volume,
   kalau BBNI dan BDMN Divergence Positif. Kemungkinan akan
  koreksi
  tgl 7
   Jan 09, sesi 2, setelah pengumuman BI Rate. Untuk tgl 5 
Jan
  sy
jg
   optimis ijo Pak Y.
  
   On 1/3/09, y_dizz y_dizz@ wrote:
Chart DJIA udah diposting sama Pak Tirta. Santa Claus
  wave-nya
  IHSG
juga udah diposting sama Embah. Saya nggak usah 
posting
  lagi
lah,
nanti malah keliatan bodonya.
   
Yang jelas saya masih yakin sama chart yang dulu saya
  post. 5
  Januari
akan jadi hari pembuktian.
   
   
   
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ruzli
  indeksbei3000@
wrote:
   
Semua orang bisa bikin prediksi.
Tidak begitu penting hasilnya benar atau salah.
Yg penting ada reason/alasan nya.
Kalau pakai TA, mohon disertakan chartnya, baik itu
candlestick,
stochastic,dll.
Kalau pakai FA, mohon data-datanya, baik itu analisa
  laporan
keuangan,
maupun yg lainnya.
Data + analisa = konklusi
Kalau cuma pakai feelingmology, berarti sm seperti 
mama
loren,
  cuma
ho ki te it
Di tahun 09, milis OB harus lebih OK.
Mbah, New Year Resolution milis OB apa nih. Mungkin 
ada
saran,
masukan
buat ke depan?
   
   
Regards
   
On 1/3/09, y_dizz y_dizz@ wrote:
 Kalo versi saya IHSG 5 Januari 150% UP. DJIA  oil
  breakout
trendline-
 nya, very2 awesome signal. Saatnya kita gas pol, 
1430
  here
we
come...



 --- In obrolan-
ban...@yahoogroups.com, FromBuitenzorg
 frombuitenzorg@ wrote:

 Boleh gak ya test prediksi ? Untuk membuktikan
  sulitnya
memprediksi
 masa depan. Bukan mo nyaingin mama loren yg
  ngeramal,  ini
prediksi
 pasti banyak mleset, . Kalo salah wajar, kalo 
tepat
  pasti
kita
 cepat
 kaya :)

 Berikut test prediksi utk tgl 5 januari 2009, 
Pliz. ..
mohon
jangan
 diikuti. Gunakan keyakinan masing2 berbasis TA 
atau
  FA.
Ini
  hanya
 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] (ELAINE) Re: Prediksi Saham tgl 5 Januari 2009

2009-01-03 Terurut Topik Elaine Sui
*The answer is 'a', Copper spot price. Copper is the most widely used metal,
mainly for electricity. The chief commercial use of copper is based on its
electrical conductivity (second only to that of silver); about half the
total annual output of copper is employed in the manufacture of electrical
apparatus and wire.

Copper is also used extensively as roofing, in making copper utensils, and
for coins and metalwork. Copper tubing is used in plumbing, and, because of
its high heat conductivity, in heat-exchanging devices such as refrigerator
and air-conditioner coils. Powdered copper is sometimes used as a pigment in
paints.

An important use of copper is in alloys such as brass, bronze, gunmetal,
Monel metal, and German silver. Compounds of copper are widely used as
insecticides and fungicides; as pigments in paints; as mordants (fixatives)
in dyeing; and in electroplating.*
*
You aren't newbie, cuz your answer is the same as any economist would give.
[?]. Ask Embah if you don't believe me.
**
Elaine**
*
2009/1/4 FromBuitenzorg frombuitenz...@yahoo.com

 Ohhh no ! Your questions intimidate newbie like me who is still
 learning more abt macro-ec hahahaha I'm not economist ... not
 expert, ask them.

 I think you can answer yourself honey, because I bet you know more
 about  Leading Economic Indicator that will change direction before
 the economy begins to change  :))

 None can predict accurately - the future economic growth- Underlined -
 - FUTURE

 But I or you ,maybe simply, have a kind of indicator that could be
 indicators for future economic growth ?? Say that Stock Index-
 common stocks traded on the IDX or NYSE etc.

 Bullish or bearish of the stocks price / index will be good indicator
 of the future economic growth. Whether the movement of stocks hv long
 or short time bullish/bearish will affect market and investor'
 sentiment. They will assume the future growth, but don't forget the
 interest rates movement ... hehehe

 Regards


 Elaine Sui elainesu...@... wrote:
 
  *Answer this, noob. [?] Which one is commonly used to measure
 **future
  economic growth:
  a. Copper spot price
  b. Crude Oil
  c. Consumer price index
  d. GDP
  e. none above
 
  I bet you can't answer that.
 
  Elaine
  **
  *2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg frombuitenz...@...
 
   I'd like to appreciate your views dan comments honey, but I'm
 still
   newbie on my nov first posting :)
  
   Btw, Have a Nice weekend.
  
   Regards
  
  
   Elaine Sui elainesui83@ wrote:
   
*You're not new around here, are you? well whoever you were,
   welcome back
but you don't have to play noob lol fgod sake.. [?]
   
Elaine**
*
2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg frombuitenzorg@
   
 Ic honey, I actually use both, TA  FA, plus learning more
 macro-
 econ, global commodties  market trend ...


 Regards


 Elaine Sui elainesui83@ wrote:
 
  *You know, most ppl is actually losing money by using
 technical
 because they
  don't really know how to use it. Technical is like a hand
 gun,
   it
 can save
  your life, or make yourself killed.
 
  It's the man behind the gun.. (lol now where did I ever hear
   that
 before..)
 
  Elaine**
  *
  2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg frombuitenzorg@
 
   Benar Pak gak usah takut dikatakan bodo, pede aja walau
 kalah
   sama
   senior2, namanya belajar, kalo meleset wajar
  
   Mungkin saya termasuk 'Newbie' ya karena pertama kali
 posting
   baru
   mulai tgl 24 nop 2008, salah biasa :)
  
   Peace
  
   Regards
  
  
  
   ruzli indeksbei3000@ wrote:
   
Namanya belajar sih ga ada bodo nya Pak Y, sy jg mau
 post
   chart
   sektor
banking tp takut kelihatan bodonya sm senior2
 disini : .
   Kalau
 di
chart sy, BBRI dan BMRI ada Divergence Negatif antara
 Price
   
   Volume,
kalau BBNI dan BDMN Divergence Positif. Kemungkinan akan
   koreksi
   tgl 7
Jan 09, sesi 2, setelah pengumuman BI Rate. Untuk tgl 5
 Jan
   sy
 jg
optimis ijo Pak Y.
   
On 1/3/09, y_dizz y_dizz@ wrote:
 Chart DJIA udah diposting sama Pak Tirta. Santa Claus
   wave-nya
   IHSG
 juga udah diposting sama Embah. Saya nggak usah
 posting
   lagi
 lah,
 nanti malah keliatan bodonya.

 Yang jelas saya masih yakin sama chart yang dulu saya
   post. 5
   Januari
 akan jadi hari pembuktian.



 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ruzli
   indeksbei3000@
 wrote:

 Semua orang bisa bikin prediksi.
 Tidak begitu penting hasilnya benar atau salah.
 Yg penting ada reason/alasan nya.
 Kalau pakai TA, mohon disertakan chartnya, baik itu
 candlestick,
 stochastic,dll.
 Kalau pakai FA, mohon data-datanya, baik itu analisa
   laporan
 keuangan,
 maupun