Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Berapa target koreksi IHSG menurut Elliot Wave?
Thanks for sharing Mr Fred. GBUFrederick Schubert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Ms. banking...what a name... it is a good question and only God knows how to answer it Anyway, if we have good observation over fund flows including scheduled of bonds issue and maturity either in domestic and world markets you will be the champion in investment...This will lead you to know than some hedged funds that were coming in to the jakarta market (in example) when the main index hit its three month low of 1274 on June 14 will have its maturity done by Sep 14, meaning some selling pressure could occur by that date... bear in mind that, the hedged fund only need a 3% to 6% margin to get out of our marketthe percentage margin means hundred of millions dollar...(amazing, rite..?) so, from now until Sep 14, the main index could move up and down by limited range of 5 and 38 points... if you mean short time is daysi must say there should n\nothing to worry...but, let's see what market makers can do to stay alert ahead of the sep 14 a disclaimerthou... cheers "Ms. Banking" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mr. Frederick, so meaning to say, u think probably there will be no BIG correction in JSX in a short time? Thanks for sharing with us. Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business. __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __._,_.___ SPONSORED LINKS Small business finance Business finance online Business finance training Business finance course Business finance schools YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "obrolan-bandar" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Berapa target koreksi IHSG menurut Elliot Wave?
Ms. banking...what a name... it is a good question and only God knows how to answer it Anyway, if we have good observation over fund flows including scheduled of bonds issue and maturity either in domestic and world markets you will be the champion in investment...This will lead you to know than some hedged funds that were coming in to the jakarta market (in example) when the main index hit its three month low of 1274 on June 14 will have its maturity done by Sep 14, meaning some selling pressure could occur by that date... bear in mind that, the hedged fund only need a 3% to 6% margin to get out of our marketthe percentage margin means hundred of millions dollar...(amazing, rite..?) so, from now until Sep 14, the main index could move up and down by limited range of 5 and 38 points... if you mean short time is daysi must say there should n\nothing to worry...but, let's see what market makers can do to stay alert ahead of the sep 14 a disclaimerthou... cheers "Ms. Banking" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mr. Frederick, so meaning to say, u think probably there will be no BIG correction in JSX in a short time? Thanks for sharing with us. Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business. __._,_.___ SPONSORED LINKS Small business finance Business finance online Business finance training Business finance course Business finance schools YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "obrolan-bandar" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Berapa target koreksi IHSG menurut Elliot Wave?
Mr. Frederick, so meaning to say, u think probably there will be no BIG correction in JSX in a short time? Thanks for sharing with us. Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. __._,_.___ SPONSORED LINKS Small business finance Business finance online Business finance training Business finance course Business finance schools YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "obrolan-bandar" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Berapa target koreksi IHSG menurut Elliot Wave?
the reason is because of that the charting like EW may be adaptable to a stock market which has trading beta of more than 3 times within 26 day average trade Indonesian stock market had it in May 17 and May 19...but, that was mostly because of the huge redemption in the mutual fund sector due to higher risk from the interest rate aversion... so, every time you try to get the EW into the JSX charting you will always find amazing low support as well as resistance...which possibility is less than 20%... just sharing...i don't have any intention to criticize anyone... and a disclaimer as well, thou... regardsSoeratman Doerachman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Can you tell us the reason Sir? May be it will gives us mor clear picture about your statement Cheers too From: Frederick Schubert [mailto:pemainbesar@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 10:07 AMTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Berapa target koreksi IHSG menurut Elliot Wave? and forgive me if i am wrongI THOUGH ELLIOT WAVE charting is only adaptable for markets like in mexico and saudi arabiaand for DJIA for the very worst scenario...cheersredyherinantoalb yahoo.com> wrote:Interesting. is it because of possibility pause on the fed? Me myself is more confidence with those argument, because what? MONEY IS RULES!!--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert ...> wrote:>> The support level of the main index for the third quarter is likely at 1368, while the resistance at 1489. For the rest of the fourth quarter it may change to 1401-1553. The forecast is NOT based on CHART, but on flow of funds and and average investment against macroeconomic development..> just sharing and don't trust me..> disclaimer also, thou...> cheers> > > Rony Santoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Saya setuju dengan bung boyz,> > TA memang subjective dan masing2 chartist bisa punya pendapat yang berbeda-beda.> > sbg contoh bung boyz dan saya hasil gambarnya berbeda karena TIME FRAME yang kita pakai berbeda.> > Anda menggunakan LARGER TIME FRAME sedangkan saya SHORTER TIME FRAME.> > Benar yang mana? Let the market decides.> > Yang penting TRUST NO ONE BUT SELF> > > Goodluck> > Rony> > > -> From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-[EMAIL PROTECTED]com] On Behalf Of boyz> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 21:52> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Berapa target koreksi IHSG menurut Elliot Wave?> > > > Maksud saya, kalau kita sedang memasuki "Siklus C", siklus C terdiri > dari "reversed 1-2-3-4-5", right?> > kalau it becomes "ideal Complete Market Cycle" maka berdasarkan > Fibonacci Time Zone, "the ideal C cycle" diperkirakan akan berlangsung > sampai Oktober/Nopember/Desember khan?> > dan kalau it will be the "Ideal C cycle", berdasarkan Fibonacci > Retracement dan Fibonacci Fan maka perkiraan IHSG ada dibawah 1222 > (RANGE 1100 - 1250)Pada bulan Oktober/Nopember/Desember tersebut khan ?> > Well, "Ideal Complete Market Cycle" maupun "Ideal Corrective Cycle" > kayaknya JARANG banget deh terjadi. yang sering terjadi sih Alternative > Correction (Triangle, Flat, Expanded Flat, Zigzag, ETC), tul gak?> > - kalo Triangle Correction, siklus c dimungkinkan tidak lebih rendah > dari a (diatas 1222)> -Kalo Flat Correction, siklus c maksimal turun sampe 1222> -Expanded Flat Correction sama dengan Flat, tapi jangka waktunya lebih lama> > pendapat saya sih, TA kan subjective. So KESIMPULAN-nya terserah > masing-2 pribadi. (ini termasuk DISCLAIMER ga nih :p)> > saya kutip dari Darvas : "I Can Become a Diagnostician, But I Can Never > Become a Prophet."> > Rony Santoso wrote:> > > > > > kalau dari gambar yang bung boyz berikan wave a di 1250, wave b di 1441 > > berarti target wave c harus di bawah 1250.> > > > kalau pendapat saya, jika koreksi di bawah 1200 maka pertanda buruk buat > > IHSG karena tahun depan pasti akan bearish.> > > > CMIIW.> > > > > > > > -> Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business.> Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business. __._,_.___ SPONSORED LINKS Small business finance Business finance online Business finance training
RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Berapa target koreksi IHSG menurut Elliot Wave?
Can you tell us the reason Sir? May be it will gives us mor clear picture about your statement Cheers too From: Frederick Schubert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 10:07 AM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Berapa target koreksi IHSG menurut Elliot Wave? and forgive me if i am wrongI THOUGH ELLIOT WAVE charting is only adaptable for markets like in mexico and saudi arabiaand for DJIA for the very worst scenario... cheers redyherinantoalb yahoo.com> wrote: Interesting. is it because of possibility pause on the fed? Me myself is more confidence with those argument, because what? MONEY IS RULES!! --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert ...> wrote: > > The support level of the main index for the third quarter is likely at 1368, while the resistance at 1489. For the rest of the fourth quarter it may change to 1401-1553. The forecast is NOT based on CHART, but on flow of funds and and average investment against macroeconomic development.. > just sharing and don't trust me.. > disclaimer also, thou... > cheers > > > Rony Santoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Saya setuju dengan bung boyz, > > TA memang subjective dan masing2 chartist bisa punya pendapat yang berbeda-beda. > > sbg contoh bung boyz dan saya hasil gambarnya berbeda karena TIME FRAME yang kita pakai berbeda. > > Anda menggunakan LARGER TIME FRAME sedangkan saya SHORTER TIME FRAME. > > Benar yang mana? Let the market decides. > > Yang penting TRUST NO ONE BUT SELF > > > Goodluck > > Rony > > > - > From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED]com] On Behalf Of boyz > Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 21:52 > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Berapa target koreksi IHSG menurut Elliot Wave? > > > > Maksud saya, kalau kita sedang memasuki "Siklus C", siklus C terdiri > dari "reversed 1-2-3-4-5", right? > > kalau it becomes "ideal Complete Market Cycle" maka berdasarkan > Fibonacci Time Zone, "the ideal C cycle" diperkirakan akan berlangsung > sampai Oktober/Nopember/Desember khan? > > dan kalau it will be the "Ideal C cycle", berdasarkan Fibonacci > Retracement dan Fibonacci Fan maka perkiraan IHSG ada dibawah 1222 > (RANGE 1100 - 1250)Pada bulan Oktober/Nopember/Desember tersebut khan ? > > Well, "Ideal Complete Market Cycle" maupun "Ideal Corrective Cycle" > kayaknya JARANG banget deh terjadi. yang sering terjadi sih Alternative > Correction (Triangle, Flat, Expanded Flat, Zigzag, ETC), tul gak? > > - kalo Triangle Correction, siklus c dimungkinkan tidak lebih rendah > dari a (diatas 1222) > -Kalo Flat Correction, siklus c maksimal turun sampe 1222 > -Expanded Flat Correction sama dengan Flat, tapi jangka waktunya lebih lama > > pendapat saya sih, TA kan subjective. So KESIMPULAN-nya terserah > masing-2 pribadi. (ini termasuk DISCLAIMER ga nih :p) > > saya kutip dari Darvas : "I Can Become a Diagnostician, But I Can Never > Become a Prophet." > > Rony Santoso wrote: > > > > > > kalau dari gambar yang bung boyz berikan wave a di 1250, wave b di 1441 > > berarti target wave c harus di bawah 1250. > > > > kalau pendapat saya, jika koreksi di bawah 1200 maka pertanda buruk buat > > IHSG karena tahun depan pasti akan bearish. > > > > CMIIW. > > > > > > > > - > Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business. > Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. __._,_.___ SPONSORED LINKS Small business finance Business finance online Business finance training Business finance course Business finance schools YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "obrolan-bandar" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Berapa target koreksi IHSG menurut Elliot Wave?
and forgive me if i am wrongI THOUGH ELLIOT WAVE charting is only adaptable for markets like in mexico and saudi arabiaand for DJIA for the very worst scenario... cheersredyherinantoalb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Interesting. is it because of possibility pause on the fed? Me myself is more confidence with those argument, because what? MONEY IS RULES!!--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert ...> wrote:>> The support level of the main index for the third quarter is likely at 1368, while the resistance at 1489. For the rest of the fourth quarter it may change to 1401-1553. The forecast is NOT based on CHART, but on flow of funds and and average investment against macroeconomic development..> just sharing and don't trust me..> disclaimer also, thou...> cheers> > > Rony Santoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Saya setuju dengan bung boyz,> > TA memang subjective dan masing2 chartist bisa punya pendapat yang berbeda-beda.> > sbg contoh bung boyz dan saya hasil gambarnya berbeda karena TIME FRAME yang kita pakai berbeda.> > Anda menggunakan LARGER TIME FRAME sedangkan saya SHORTER TIME FRAME.> > Benar yang mana? Let the market decides.> > Yang penting TRUST NO ONE BUT SELF> > > Goodluck> > Rony> > > -> From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-[EMAIL PROTECTED]com] On Behalf Of boyz> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 21:52> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Berapa target koreksi IHSG menurut Elliot Wave?> > > > Maksud saya, kalau kita sedang memasuki "Siklus C", siklus C terdiri > dari "reversed 1-2-3-4-5", right?> > kalau it becomes "ideal Complete Market Cycle" maka berdasarkan > Fibonacci Time Zone, "the ideal C cycle" diperkirakan akan berlangsung > sampai Oktober/Nopember/Desember khan?> > dan kalau it will be the "Ideal C cycle", berdasarkan Fibonacci > Retracement dan Fibonacci Fan maka perkiraan IHSG ada dibawah 1222 > (RANGE 1100 - 1250)Pada bulan Oktober/Nopember/Desember tersebut khan ?> > Well, "Ideal Complete Market Cycle" maupun "Ideal Corrective Cycle" > kayaknya JARANG banget deh terjadi. yang sering terjadi sih Alternative > Correction (Triangle, Flat, Expanded Flat, Zigzag, ETC), tul gak?> > - kalo Triangle Correction, siklus c dimungkinkan tidak lebih rendah > dari a (diatas 1222)> -Kalo Flat Correction, siklus c maksimal turun sampe 1222> -Expanded Flat Correction sama dengan Flat, tapi jangka waktunya lebih lama> > pendapat saya sih, TA kan subjective. So KESIMPULAN-nya terserah > masing-2 pribadi. (ini termasuk DISCLAIMER ga nih :p)> > saya kutip dari Darvas : "I Can Become a Diagnostician, But I Can Never > Become a Prophet."> > Rony Santoso wrote:> > > > > > kalau dari gambar yang bung boyz berikan wave a di 1250, wave b di 1441 > > berarti target wave c harus di bawah 1250.> > > > kalau pendapat saya, jika koreksi di bawah 1200 maka pertanda buruk buat > > IHSG karena tahun depan pasti akan bearish.> > > > CMIIW.> > > > > > > > -> Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business.> Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. __._,_.___ SPONSORED LINKS Small business finance Business finance online Business finance training Business finance course Business finance schools YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "obrolan-bandar" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___