The issue of governance has been talked about before, so I'll just
summarize the decisions the Illumos community reached.
Governance causes way more problems than it solves. For example, it adds a
political aspect to the community, creating clear winners and losers. This
leads to rivalry,
I'm replying to _everyone_ not just Kieth. It seems this discussion
spans several lists...
Just to throw in some of my personal experience.
While a freshman, I had only one computer at my disposal. Running
OpenSolaris (later OpenIndiana) was very painful. I couldn't NOT run
it because it was the
For what it's worth, I only need Xorg, xpdf and xterm to take care of my
graphics needs. Everything that doesn't involve coding happens on linux,
mac and winxp.
As long as a distro can support Xorg, it is viable for me. So whatever you
guys do, please don't remove the basic graphics capability!
All good points. Just want to chime in and say that for userland C
code development, gcc3 is adequate. I don't think anyone will see some
huge, practical benefit from a bleeding edge C compiler.
For C++11 development, it seems that there is no choice but use the
latest and greatest. It's a shame
For what it's worth:
I use a Mac on a laptop, OpenIndiana 147 on my ThinkPad and
OpenIndiana 151 on a desktop.
I've kept my thinkpad laptop on for weeks at a time. I've kept my
desktop (when it was running OI 147) on for _over a year_.
Both of those machines have 4GB of RAM. The desktop has an
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 12:07 AM, garrett.dam...@dey-sys.com wrote:
However I think OI and illumos have been fairly symbiotic -- indeed OI still
builds upon the illumos base, and at the moment OI is the de-facto
reference distribution of illumos. However, if OI is considering a different
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Alasdair Lumsden alasdai...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi All,
On 04/09/2012 22:42, mag...@yonderway.com wrote:
On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 13:25:39 -0500, Andrew M. Hettinger
ahettin...@prominic.net wrote:
One of the biggest issues here isn't that packages are particularly
Has anyone tried getting the DC to work in an NGZ?
Does anyone know if this feasible?
Thanks.
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On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 4:18 AM, Jim Klimov jimkli...@cos.ru wrote:
2012-09-04 22:25, Andrew M. Hettinger пишет:
was kept in /bin and /sbin that did not depend on anything. This was
done to allow you to NFS mount everything else. IIRC the decision was
made to go ahead and make them dynamicly
I think that Andrew want to use a unified build system, instead of the
loose confederation of radically different systems that's currently in
use.
I agree. A unified build system is necessary. The only question is:
what should it be?
Makefile-based, like ports/pkgsrc/oi-build?
specfile-based?
5, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Andrew Stormont
andyjstorm...@gmail.com wrote:
On 5 Sep 2012, at 18:04, Nick Zivkovic zivkovic.n...@gmail.com wrote:
I think that Andrew want to use a unified build system, instead of the
loose confederation of radically different systems that's currently in
use.
I
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Alasdair Lumsden alasdai...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Nick,
On 05/09/2012 18:49, Nick Zivkovic wrote:
Someone thought it would be a good idea to have a unified build system
across consolidations.
I think it's a pretty good idea to standardize on one build system
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Alan Coopersmith
alan.coopersm...@oracle.com wrote:
On 09/ 5/12 10:55 AM, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
Nick Zivkovic wrote:
Basically, I'm asking if it is better to have one convention
(everything in /usr/$consolidation) instead of two (some things in
/usr
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 8:19 AM, ken mays maybird1...@yahoo.com wrote:
The desktop for OpenSolaris is not an issue nor major desktop apps. Most of
the major apps were ported and some specs live in SFE.
You can look at distros like Shillix or even Solaris 11. Do you need Xorg 7.7
or Xfce
Other distros will better serve those who need a very, very lean
system. OI is meant to facilitate usable desktop variant of Illumos
for power users who need a better hobby than linux administration ;)
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 8:19 AM, ken mays maybird1...@yahoo.com wrote:
The desktop for
am just offering my perspective is all.
- Garrett
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 3, 2012, at 7:22 AM, Nick Zivkovic zivkovic.n...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 9:50 PM, chrisjo...@unixmen.com wrote:
Although I am relatively new to the project and it is true I have not
contributed
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Andrew M. Hettinger
ahettin...@prominic.net wrote:
My thoughts. Remember, they are probably only worth what you paid for them!
;p
Nick Zivkovic zivkovic.n...@gmail.com wrote on 09/01/2012 10:42:14 AM:
Yes. I am more interested in contributing drivers
On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 5:44 AM, Joerg Schilling
joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:
Maxim Kondratovich maxim@gmail.com wrote:
+1
I think that leader is not a main problem now, but coordinator must be.
If we like OpenSolaris to survive, we need an OpenSolaris coordinator.
The
Or do you mean that the packages are not compatible?
On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Nick Zivkovic zivkovic.n...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 5:44 AM, Joerg Schilling
joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:
Maxim Kondratovich maxim@gmail.com wrote:
+1
I think that leader
Depending on viewpoint, OpenSolaris is either alive or dead.
However, it is indisputable that OpenSolaris is also ambiguous, and confusing.
The distro is dead, but has been resurrected as OpenIndiana.
The OS is alive, but it is called Illumos (to avoid ambiguity).
Illumos is the only
On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Joerg Schilling
joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:
Nick Zivkovic zivkovic.n...@gmail.com wrote:
Depending on viewpoint, OpenSolaris is either alive or dead.
However, it is indisputable that OpenSolaris is also ambiguous, and
confusing.
The distro
picking the most
popular one off hand?
I see that Shillix-ON deviates from Illumos since version 147, I
wonder if KVM support is planned?
But this probably belongs in another list.
On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Ken Gunderson kgund...@teamcool.net wrote:
At Mon, 3 Sep 2012 11:13:07 -0500,
Nick
On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Magnus mag...@yonderway.com wrote:
On Sep 2, 2012, at 7:14 PM, Nick Zivkovic wrote:
Do we have any idea who the new project lead is? Or is it too soon to tell?
Are you volunteering for the position?
Not unless it involves writing code :)
But, seriously, I am
I was just reading through the oi-dev archives (about the resignation
of the OI lead) where a former Sun engineer, claimed that the efforts
made by sun to port OpenSolaris to the desktop/laptop platforms (by
adding wifi support, by making a new audio system, etc), only hurt Sun
in the long run,
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