Re: [oi-dev] OpenSXCE It is illegal to sell without source code.

2014-09-20 Thread Joerg Schilling
Martin Bochnig mar...@martux.org wrote: Hi Joerg and all, thank you for your friendly messages. Yes, everything started at first with SchilliX. Even BeleniX at its very beginning, the father of Indiana, which was then simply cloned I in fact made a project proposal to Sun years before they

Re: [oi-dev] OpenSXCE It is illegal to sell without source code.

2014-09-19 Thread Joerg Schilling
ken mays via oi-dev oi-dev@openindiana.org wrote: As for Martin, he did provide source for his initial releases and was going to make the latest patches available. He pretty much told others what he was doing to solve various issues and even where he was picking up some ideas and code.

Re: [oi-dev] OpenSXCE It is illegal to sell without source code.

2014-09-19 Thread ken mays via oi-dev
Hi Joerg, Then, the solution is easy. People should offer him 'payable work' before asking for HIS contributions. Martin asked for donations for his contribution - people have the freedom not to pay him as well as not use his work. We pay bills to get provided services - but no payment means

Re: [oi-dev] OpenSXCE It is illegal to sell without source code.

2014-09-19 Thread Martin Bochnig
Wow :) Thank you Ken, of course you are always welcome for an official seat or whatever. And you are the only one of all of them closer related to OI who knows X11 and DRI/DRM. Well, let's keep OI where they are. I'm willing to share and to collaborate, but only with fair players, and hence:

Re: [oi-dev] OpenSXCE It is illegal to sell without source code.

2014-09-18 Thread Udo Grabowski (IMK)
On 18/09/2014 11:12, Joerg Schilling wrote: ... I believe, we should rather encourage Oracle to share their code again following the CDDL. Just to note, part of the code is indeed still published, see: http://dlc.sun.com/osol/userland/downloads/, which has a s12-57 just published yesterday

Re: [oi-dev] OpenSXCE It is illegal to sell without source code.

2014-09-18 Thread ken mays via oi-dev
Joerg said: I believe, we should rather encourage Oracle to share their code again following the CDDL. On Thursday, September 18, 2014 2:13 AM, Joerg Schilling joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote: Nikola M. minik...@gmail.com wrote: Or the difference exist because I think CDDL

Re: [oi-dev] OpenSXCE It is illegal to sell without source code.

2014-09-18 Thread Nikola M.
On 09/18/14 03:58 PM, ken mays via oi-dev wrote: Or the difference exist because I think CDDL forces treating files that change previous code as patches and you maybe say, that treating files that change existing code as patches is - optional? If you add code in new files, it is fully

Re: [oi-dev] OpenSXCE It is illegal to sell without source code.

2014-09-17 Thread Nikola M.
On 09/15/14 02:33 PM, Joerg Schilling wrote: Nikola M. minik...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/14/14 07:02 PM, Martin Bochnig wrote: Furthermore it is nonsense what you write about the CDDL terms. The CDDL permits the developer to keep the src closed, similar to the Xorg license. I would say it is

Re: [oi-dev] OpenSXCE It is illegal to sell without source code.

2014-09-17 Thread Joerg Schilling
Nikola M. minik...@gmail.com wrote: This is not correct: The CDDL is file based and you are allowed to add new files that you may keep secret. You however need to publish everything you modified and that was under CDDL. Yeah, but if those file(s) that one adds to CDDL code are - Patches to

Re: [oi-dev] OpenSXCE It is illegal to sell without source code.

2014-09-17 Thread Nikola M.
On 09/15/14 08:47 AM, Martin Bochnig wrote: And now: Peace and happiness. From now on: UNSUBSCRIBED again. Thanks again to my friends :) This is really most annoying. But consistent in being annoying, if that is for some credit. ___ oi-dev

Re: [oi-dev] OpenSXCE It is illegal to sell without source code.

2014-09-15 Thread Martin Bochnig
) And now: Peace and happiness. From now on: UNSUBSCRIBED again. Thanks again to my friends :) %martin East-Berlin On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 2:28 AM, Martin Bochnig mar...@martux.org wrote: http://openindiana.org/pipermail/oi-dev/2014-September/003355.html [oi-dev] OpenSXCE It is illegal

Re: [oi-dev] OpenSXCE It is illegal to sell without source code.

2014-09-15 Thread Joerg Schilling
Nikola M. minik...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/14/14 07:02 PM, Martin Bochnig wrote: Furthermore it is nonsense what you write about the CDDL terms. The CDDL permits the developer to keep the src closed, similar to the Xorg license. I would say it is nonsense what you just said. Re-reading