Re: [oi-dev] Wiki comments

2017-03-30 Thread Nikola M
On 03/30/17 09:09 PM, Andreas Wacknitz wrote: +1 Plus one means nothing. You can share your ideas in-topic , express something you like or dislike, share ideas, but +1 on Trolling response it truly not helping. What you did "+1" on? On personal bashing instead of staying in topic?

Re: [oi-dev] Wiki comments

2017-03-30 Thread Nikola M
On 03/28/17 03:29 PM, Aurélien Larcher wrote: I know the Wiki is a sensitive topic for you but please play nice in your answers. Especially since James' comments are valid. Bug reports should be put on Bug tracker. Comments are actually solved by making an account, and witout "flaging" on

Re: [oi-dev] Wiki comments

2017-03-30 Thread Nikola M
On 03/28/17 03:36 PM, Aurélien Larcher wrote: Nodoby has time for spam or moderation, so after a reality check disabling temporarily was the only option. Obviously, since I mentioned it, someone has the time... So it is not true that "nobody has the time", since I am here. I am talking

Re: [oi-dev] Wiki comments

2017-03-28 Thread Nikola M
On 03/25/17 10:53 PM, Aurélien Larcher wrote: The comment section is now plagued by spam and should be disabled asap. I don't think it should be disabled since there is no space to save comments. Historically, comments prove to be valid source of information corrections and eliminating a

Re: [oi-dev] Wiki comments

2017-03-28 Thread Nikola M
On 03/25/17 10:27 PM, James Blachly wrote: I know I am unlikely to sway anyone, but please allow me to offer my perspective as a brand new OpenIndiana user (but have already been contributing to illumos-gate for the past year) as I think it is very important for any project to get “first

Re: [oi-dev] Dropping java interfaces to Gnome libraries

2017-03-01 Thread Nikola M
On 02/28/17 11:49 PM, Alexander Pyhalov wrote: There's a little mess. I believe that we've never shipped java-gnome, http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/java-gnome/4.1/ (from 2013). We shipped only libgnome-java, https://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/libgnome-java/2.12/ (from 2007).

Re: [oi-dev] Dropping java interfaces to Gnome libraries

2017-02-28 Thread Nikola M
On 02/28/17 09:43 PM, Franklin Ronald wrote: Hello, I don't know any real world application that make use of Java-Gnome stack. In official site the latest beta was released on 2013, May. The most notable Java Desktop applications are written with Swing or SWT. If anyone write a java

Re: [oi-dev] Wiki comments

2017-02-26 Thread Nikola M
On 02/25/17 11:55 PM, Adam Števko wrote: Hello, I also support this step. I will be for every solution that helps us clean up wiki even more. "Cleaning up" is not the way, but improving. Isolationist and disabling policy is hardly welcoming to anyone , therefore disabling comments without

Re: [oi-dev] Wiki comments

2017-02-25 Thread Nikola M
On 02/25/17 11:06 PM, Aurélien Larcher wrote: Keeping outdated and incorrect information on an official medium is *wrong*. Those are comments, and owned by their authors and dated. They are not parts of articles themselves. If anyone takes a power to select only comments he/she likes, then

Re: [oi-dev] Wiki comments

2017-02-25 Thread Nikola M
On 02/25/17 11:14 PM, Aurélien Larcher wrote: On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 9:25 PM, Nikola M <minik...@gmail.com <mailto:minik...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 02/25/17 08:41 PM, Andreas Wacknitz wrote: nikolam, you should check the comments. I have the impression that a

Re: [oi-dev] Wiki comments

2017-02-25 Thread Nikola M
On 02/25/17 11:14 PM, Aurélien Larcher wrote: On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 9:25 PM, Nikola M <minik...@gmail.com <mailto:minik...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 02/25/17 08:41 PM, Andreas Wacknitz wrote: nikolam, you should check the comments. I have the impression that a

Re: [oi-dev] Wiki comments

2017-02-25 Thread Nikola M
On 02/25/17 08:41 PM, Andreas Wacknitz wrote: nikolam, you should check the comments. I have the impression that a lot of them can be deleted without loosing anything. You are right to preserve comments with valuable information, eg. technical discussions. Selecting what should be preserved

Re: [oi-dev] Wiki comments

2017-02-25 Thread Nikola M
On 02/25/17 06:51 PM, Thomas Wagner wrote: Hi, even if I don't like the content written in a few selected comments, I would not just disable all without a closer look. If we find a way to preserve the message of the more valuable comments, that would be cool. In that case someone would need to

Re: [oi-dev] Wiki comments

2017-02-25 Thread Nikola M
On 02/25/17 06:25 PM, Aurélien Larcher wrote: Most discussions are outdated, either irrelevant or incorrect. That does not make them invaluable. If nobody cares to reuse them then they are de facto deprecated. I just said I care to reuse them and history of people's activity

Re: [oi-dev] Wiki comments

2017-02-25 Thread Nikola M
On 02/25/17 05:43 PM, Aurélien Larcher wrote: Hi, could we disable comments on the wiki and remove all the existing ones. Existing ones should be saved and reused not just deleted... Beside there are good info in them, thez are activity traces no to be part from so easy. Most discussions

Re: [oi-dev] FOSDEM 2017 hackathon

2017-01-24 Thread Nikola M
On 01/19/17 09:55 AM, Adam Števko wrote: Hello, as you all know FOSDEM 2017 is organized during the first weekend in February, which is almost in two weeks' time. There will be a gathering of almost all OI developers. We will have 2 days of time available for hacking and discussions. I would

Re: [oi-dev] Wikipedia page

2016-12-26 Thread Nikola M
On 12/15/16 01:47 AM, Michael Kruger wrote: On 12/13/2016 04:19 PM, Aurélien Larcher wrote: Hi, I updated the graph I made a while ago on EN and FR (+ link to release notes): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenIndiana Wikipedia is based on quoting sources other then article topic itself.

Re: [oi-dev] Wikipedia page

2016-12-26 Thread Nikola M
On 12/13/16 10:19 PM, Aurélien Larcher wrote: Hi, I updated the graph I made a while ago on EN and FR (+ link to release notes): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenIndiana Feel free to update the other languages. Except from the fact that OI hipster snapshts are not releases per se.. That

Re: [oi-dev] HEADS UP: /dev images are archived

2016-11-26 Thread Nikola M
On 11/26/16 03:03 PM, Adam Števko wrote: > Hello, > > I moved all /dev and old OpenSolaris isos under archive directory > at http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/archive/. This change is going to > be propagated to mirrors after they sync. > > Cheers, > Adam -Do you think that there is the room for

Re: [oi-dev] USB installation instructions

2016-11-21 Thread Nikola M
On 11/14/16 07:16 PM, Aurélien Larcher wrote: > Hello, > the download page points to the following instructions which are outdated: > > https://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Installing+OpenIndiana > > Maybe we should have reviewed the installation instructions > beforehand, this is a bit unfortunate :S

Re: [oi-dev] USB installation instructions

2016-11-21 Thread Nikola M
On 11/15/16 02:27 AM, Michael Kruger wrote: > On 11/14/2016 01:16 PM, Aurélien Larcher wrote: >> Hello, >> the download page points to the following instructions which are >> outdated: >> >> https://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Installing+OpenIndiana >> >> Maybe we should have reviewed the installation

Re: [oi-dev] Call for contributors: New OpenIndiana documentation

2016-11-05 Thread Nikola M
On 11/ 4/16 03:31 PM, Adam Števko wrote: > Hello folks, > > After severals months of Michael’s hard work, we are glad to present a future > basis for new OpenIndiana documentation. The documentation can be found at > http://docs.openindiana.org. > > Michael tried to make the contribution

Re: [oi-dev] mkdocs and oi-docs

2016-10-17 Thread Nikola M
On 10/17/16 02:49 PM, Jim Klimov wrote: > while the other PR is still worked on (WIP) and not ready for merge - just a > preview for the curious as to what I just won't call it WIP if it is presented to be merged. (About texts) It can be merged in any RND moment , similar as not knowing in

Re: [oi-dev] Lithuanian OpenIndiana users / developers

2016-09-23 Thread Nikola M
On 09/22/16 09:53 PM, Мартин Бохниг via oi-dev wrote: > Those freaks are still spamming my mail account with Illumos-devel > list messages. > If that's not terror, what else is it? I think that could be seen as a form of appreciation. Maybe could be looked at it like that. :)

Re: [oi-dev] Lithuanian OpenIndiana users / developers

2016-09-23 Thread Nikola M
On 09/21/16 09:16 PM, Мартин Бохниг via oi-dev wrote: > For what it is worth: Although they at Illumos promised that they > allegedly "banned me", they still keep bombarding my old email address > with all of their list traffic, although they of course prevent me > from responding. Hi, I use Mail

Re: [oi-dev] Apache OpenOffice retirement - all contributors fled to LibreOffice after Oracle Sun takeover Fwd: Broken components

2016-09-09 Thread Nikola M
On 09/ 9/16 10:40 PM, Lionel Cons wrote: > > No, the problems in the Openoffice community are there since 2-3 > years, not there is no "vice president for open source" at Oracle or > any one who steers against such long term developments. Since Oracle gave it to Apache foundation, it's not

Re: [oi-dev] Apache OpenOffice retirement - all contributors fled to LibreOffice after Oracle Sun takeover Fwd: Broken components

2016-09-09 Thread Nikola M
On 09/ 9/16 11:00 PM, Lionel Cons wrote: > On 9 September 2016 at 22:55, Alan Coopersmith > wrote: > >> Yes, Oracle killed the product, got out of the office suite market, laid off >> the team, and instead of leaving the code to rot, donated it to Apache. It >>

Re: [oi-dev] HEADS UP: HTTPS available on pkg.openindiana.org

2016-08-14 Thread Nikola M
On 08/13/16 08:47 PM, Reginald Beardsley via oi-dev wrote: > Could you describe the actual problem? Are there browsers that can't use > https and are actually useable? > > I tried http://www.opendindiana.org and it seamlessly switched over to https. > So what is broken? You described it. In

Re: [oi-dev] HEADS UP: HTTPS available on pkg.openindiana.org

2016-08-13 Thread Nikola M
On 08/ 9/16 06:49 PM, Adam Števko wrote: > Hello, > > I gave our infrastructure some love and have following announcements: > > - HTTPS availability As I remember https was turned on some month ago, but turned off and turned on again now. Just to mention, there is currently no solution for a

Re: [oi-dev] OpenIndiana Code of Conduct

2016-07-25 Thread Nikola M
On 07/26/16 12:47 AM, Aurélien Larcher wrote: > If I can explain another/a last time: there is no censorship as you were > asked to put your draft alongside the original proposal, kept for reference. > There will be one final Code of Conduct but there can be several strains to > serve as basis,

Re: [oi-dev] OpenIndiana Code of Conduct

2016-07-25 Thread Nikola M
On 07/25/16 12:01 PM, Volker A. Brandt wrote: > Dear Nikola! > > >> I just received threats from Adam in the form of "warning", > [...] > >> On personal level, it hurts more to recognize that long-standing, importand >> and >> capable guy like Adam, makes so much of mistakes and misuse, the

Re: [oi-dev] OpenIndiana Code of Conduct

2016-07-25 Thread Nikola M
On 07/25/16 02:00 PM, Adam Števko wrote: > Hello, > > I restored the copy on different wiki subpage, so people are able to > see it: http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Code+of+Conduct+proposals > Instead of reading this fascist BS, you can visit:

Re: [oi-dev] OpenIndiana Code of Conduct

2016-07-25 Thread Nikola M
On 07/18/16 11:35 PM, Adam Števko wrote: > Hello, I just received threats from Adam in the form of "warning", where he threatens me by forbidding contribution, limiting and deleting accounts and showing in general total not understanding how Wiki works and that no one seeks approval to write

Re: [oi-dev] OpenIndiana Code of Conduct

2016-07-25 Thread Nikola M
On 07/25/16 10:09 AM, Bart Coddens wrote: > Please Nikola, > > Take your bike out and go for a ride in the countryside. > This everlasting tirade/rant does not help the community or yourself. > Just my 2c, This mesage of yours is off-topic and presents personal trolling. Ine does not need

Re: [oi-dev] OpenIndiana Code of Conduct

2016-07-25 Thread Nikola M
On 07/24/16 08:59 PM, Adam Števko wrote: > Hello everybody, > > I added draft of proposed CoC to wiki here: > http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Code+of+Conduct+proposals Firstly, there are no "code of conducts" there is one document (that can't be even make active any time soon, but whatever).

Re: [oi-dev] OpenIndiana Code of Conduct

2016-07-25 Thread Nikola M
On 07/24/16 05:40 PM, Aurélien Larcher wrote: > It is only democratic to pull the plug out of that page, showing that > unfunished undemocratic documents like that should not have democratic > support at all, promoting autoritarian rula and forcing it. > > Other then that, democratic way could be

Re: [oi-dev] OpenIndiana Code of Conduct

2016-07-25 Thread Nikola M
On 07/24/16 08:53 PM, Adam Števko wrote: > > Yes, the wider context exists. The idea is to make every possible step > to move project out of decline. As I see it there is not decline and in the opposite OI hipster is in the best shape in years and getting many new contributions every day. >

Re: [oi-dev] OpenIndiana Code of Conduct

2016-07-25 Thread Nikola M
On 07/24/16 08:20 PM, Adam Števko wrote: > Hi Till, > > I added slightly modified draft to > http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Code+of+Conduct+proposals and it contains the > sentence you wanted, but slightly modified and expanded: Please don't change name of the document when editing it, for

Re: [oi-dev] OpenIndiana Code of Conduct

2016-07-24 Thread Nikola M
On 07/24/16 04:34 PM, Aurélien Larcher wrote: > Bottom line is: you do not modify *existing* content without prior discussion. Neither adding NEW documents nor editing should go without discussion In this case new page was added out of blue and it denied changing it nad ther IS ongoin discussion

Re: [oi-dev] OpenIndiana Code of Conduct

2016-07-24 Thread Nikola M
On 07/24/16 02:00 PM, Aurélien Larcher wrote: > On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 at 11:32 AM, Nikola M <minik...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 07/23/16 01:11 PM, Aurélien Larcher wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>>> Web page >>>> http://www.openindiana.org/communit

Re: [oi-dev] OpenIndiana Code of Conduct

2016-07-24 Thread Nikola M
On 07/23/16 01:11 PM, Aurélien Larcher wrote: > Hi, > >> Web page >> http://www.openindiana.org/community/code-of-conduct/ >> have been updated with the latest on-Wiki version with links for editing and >> contribution to the text. > A page should not be modified without discussing with its

Re: [oi-dev] OpenIndiana Code of Conduct

2016-07-24 Thread Nikola M
On 07/23/16 01:11 PM, Aurélien Larcher wrote: > Hi, > >> Web page >> http://www.openindiana.org/community/code-of-conduct/ >> have been updated with the latest on-Wiki version with links for editing and >> contribution to the text. > A page should not be modified without discussing with its

Re: [oi-dev] OpenIndiana Code of Conduct

2016-07-24 Thread Nikola M
On 07/23/16 11:31 AM, Michael Schuster wrote: > I'd add > c. People make mistakes. :-) That is right, that is why people's personalities are not in the focus point and they can change over time. It is expected to make mistakes, all the time, even software makes mistakes not only people :P If

Re: [oi-dev] OpenIndiana Code of Conduct

2016-07-24 Thread Nikola M
On 07/23/16 11:27 AM, Peter Tribble wrote: > > > On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 6:30 AM, Nikola M <minik...@gmail.com > <mailto:minik...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > On 07/22/16 02:00 PM, Peter Tribble wrote: >> Overall, I'm happy with most of this. It's ab

Re: [oi-dev] OpenIndiana Code of Conduct

2016-07-24 Thread Nikola M
On 07/23/16 06:01 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > On 07/21/16 07:47 PM, Nikola M wrote: >> Or someone really thinking that fascist autocracy is a good thing to try >> on OI people. > >> Intentionally not seeing any problems in it induces the question of >> using a bra

Re: [oi-dev] OpenIndiana Code of Conduct

2016-07-23 Thread Nikola M
On 07/18/16 11:35 PM, Adam Števko wrote: > Hello, > > As part of a larger effort at providing a more formal governance > structure for the OpenIndiana project, I’d like to announce on the > behalf of OI developers the adoption of an OpenIndiana Code of > Conduct. The draft text for this new

Re: [oi-dev] OpenIndiana Code of Conduct

2016-07-22 Thread Nikola M
On 07/22/16 02:00 PM, Peter Tribble wrote: > Overall, I'm happy with most of this. It's about the right length, as > well. What are you actually happy with? I can say I could be happy with the first affirmative part, that is from the time of original posting changed, but not the second part with

Re: [oi-dev] OpenIndiana Code of Conduct

2016-07-21 Thread Nikola M
On 07/22/16 06:23 AM, Glenn Holmer wrote: > On 07/21/2016 09:47 PM, Nikola M wrote: >> All "groups of selected people" are selected based on functions to be >> doing, not selected by the "people" (!) Just to notice, there is a mistake in the text here, ma

Re: [oi-dev] OpenIndiana Code of Conduct

2016-07-21 Thread Nikola M
On 07/21/16 06:32 PM, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > On Thu, 21 Jul 2016, Nikola M wrote: >> >> You can change it further, >> but the whole point is you can't know what you want if you don't even >> look at things that are wrong with the current one. It is regarding >&g

Re: [oi-dev] OpenIndiana Code of Conduct

2016-07-21 Thread Nikola M
On 07/21/16 03:19 PM, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > I did not have enough spare time to read all the words that you wrote > but upon re-reading various proposals I am Take your time, there are no various proposals, but only one spawned from the original one.

Re: [oi-dev] OpenIndiana Code of Conduct

2016-07-21 Thread Nikola M
On 07/21/16 04:08 AM, Michael Kruger wrote: > Hello Johan, > > I'm sorry you view the adoption of a Code of Conduct as a slippery > slope leading to an endless set of rules and regulations. And to > anyone else feeling this way you have my sympathies as well. > > In my view I see the project is at

Re: [oi-dev] OpenIndiana Code of Conduct

2016-07-21 Thread Nikola M
On 07/21/16 02:31 AM, Michael Kruger wrote: > > > Just as the formulation of a mission statement, road map, and a core > governance team help to show the community and world we aren't just > aimlessly trudging on in some unknown direction, the CoC is simply > another tool to provide structure and

Re: [oi-dev] OpenIndiana Code of Conduct

2016-07-20 Thread Nikola M
On 07/21/16 12:13 AM, Adam Števko wrote: > Hi Till, > >> On Jul 20, 2016, at 10:04 AM, Till Wegmüller wrote: >> >> On 18.07.2016 23:35, Adam Števko wrote: >>> >>> Please compose your thoughts and comment with as few replies as >>> necessary so the community may solidify the

Re: [oi-dev] OpenIndiana Code of Conduct

2016-07-20 Thread Nikola M
On 07/20/16 12:19 PM, Johan S wrote: > > and the future will certainly go this way rule #3137 violates rule #2169 > you're right , i fork from now... Hi, I would take this as your contribution toward things you like or not. We (me, you and everyone) are actually, actively changing the future as we

Re: [oi-dev] OpenIndiana Code of Conduct

2016-07-19 Thread Nikola M
On 07/19/16 07:15 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > >> And actualy 'not be tolerable' is NOT in a sense of OI community. > > http://www.plausiblydeniable.com/opinion/gsf.html - see fallacy #1. > http://www.slideshare.net/dberkholz/assholes-are-killing-your-project >

Re: [oi-dev] OpenIndiana Code of Conduct

2016-07-19 Thread Nikola M
WIP* Openindiana Core Principles and Expectations - CPE (Code of Conduct) <http://wiki.openindiana.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=31391953> * Added by Nikola M. <http://wiki.openindiana.org/display/%7Enikolam>, last edited by Nikola M. <http://wiki.openindiana.org/d

Re: [oi-dev] OpenIndiana Code of Conduct

2016-07-19 Thread Nikola M
On 07/19/16 02:26 PM, Aurélien Larcher wrote: > > > As part of a larger effort at providing a more formal governance > structure for the OpenIndiana project, I’d like to announce on the > behalf of OI developers the adoption of an OpenIndiana Code of > Conduct. The draft text for

Re: [oi-dev] OpenIndiana Code of Conduct

2016-07-19 Thread Nikola M
On 07/19/16 12:05 PM, Michael Schuster wrote: > Hi all, > > On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 11:56 AM, Jim Klimov > wrote: > > > behalf of OI developers the adoption of an OpenIndiana Code of > >> Conduct. The draft text for this new document can be

Re: [oi-dev] OpenIndiana user survey

2016-07-12 Thread Nikola M
On 07/12/16 05:36 AM, Fred Liu wrote: > > > > Done and thanks! > > > > > This will give us answers to several questions and the information > will help us improve OpenIndiana. > It also can be rigged, does not connect between poll and optionally letting people know who is the person willing

Re: [oi-dev] OpenIndiana user survey

2016-07-11 Thread Nikola M
On 07/11/16 10:04 PM, Adam Števko wrote: > Hi, > > On behalf of the OI developers, I’d like to ask all the community > members and developers to complete a short OpenIndiana survey form > located > at > https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1k2LNzxQxGdUZ7joL_tI3Aid_fzTGPxSDEAp83PbCmus/viewform. > Even

[oi-dev] Testing request for firefox@45.2.0

2016-06-08 Thread Nikola M
||Testing requiest for pkg://userland/web/browser/firefox@45.2.0,5.11-2016.0.0.0:20160608T095701Z has been received. See at Wiki page: http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Testing+packages+by+using+local+per-package+mirror for testing procedure using local per-package mirror. Make sure you create

Re: [oi-dev] how to reg wiki.openindiana.org ?

2016-06-08 Thread Nikola M
On 06/ 8/16 11:28 AM, Michael Kruger wrote: On 06/08/2016 03:13 AM, Nikola M wrote: Can you say few things about yourself as an introduction? You can start writing on topics you want, send me to my e-mail for starters and for quality control. Or to the mailing list itself and we'll see

Re: [oi-dev] how to reg wiki.openindiana.org ?

2016-06-08 Thread Nikola M
On 06/ 7/16 11:36 PM, mlist_brigar via oi-dev wrote: Hi all! How to reg wiki.openindiana.org ? I would like to participate, and it is possible to make a small contribution. That is just great. What you are thinking about writing? Are you thinking of writing in your natural language, too?

Re: [oi-dev] #6981 VLC 2.2.2 misses icons after libpng update

2016-05-18 Thread Nikola M
On 05/18/16 01:10 PM, Aurélien Larcher wrote: Well I just updated and basically lost the majority of the icons even in Gnome... this also caused complete havoc to the Nimbus theme... I don't see that for Nimbus theme at me after update today, I can see icons right. My problem is that I can't

Re: [oi-dev] #6981 VLC 2.2.2 misses icons after libpng update

2016-05-18 Thread Nikola M
On 05/18/16 01:10 PM, Aurélien Larcher wrote: Well I just updated and basically lost the majority of the icons even in Gnome... this also caused complete havoc to the Nimbus theme... I just updated and restarted (BE date 2016-05-18 13:34) and for one account i can't start nautilus anymore:

Re: [oi-dev] Public Documentation License (terms)

2016-05-18 Thread Nikola M
On 05/18/16 09:25 AM, Alexander Pyhalov wrote: On 05/18/2016 04:33, Michael Kruger wrote: - Taking the discussion in yet another direction, Given neither Illumos or OpenIndiana are legal entities, I presume for the purpose of

Re: [oi-dev] Public Documentation License (terms)

2016-05-18 Thread Nikola M
On 05/18/16 04:13 AM, Michael Kruger wrote: One last thought on all this. If the content found on OpenIndiana.org (wiki, www) is not PDL licensed (as far as I can tell, this appears to be a true statement), then the argument to use the PDL for new documents No one forced you, just it

Re: [oi-dev] Public Documentation License (terms)

2016-05-18 Thread Nikola M
On 05/18/16 03:33 AM, Michael Kruger wrote: The 'OpenSolaris' documents hosted on the Oracle website do NOT contain any such PDL license declaration either visibly or contained in the HTML source. I think it's safe to conclude PDF copies of these documents are not PDL licensed either. Oracle

Re: [oi-dev] OpenIndiana Docs - updated

2016-05-17 Thread Nikola M
On 05/17/16 08:54 AM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: On 05/16/16 11:28 PM, Nikola M wrote: On 05/17/16 05:46 AM, Michael Kruger wrote: In regards to the PDL, to whom does one submit a signed contributor agreement? To Openindiana and illumos surely. Neither OI nor illumos have any legal entity

Re: [oi-dev] OpenIndiana Docs - updated

2016-05-17 Thread Nikola M
On 05/17/16 01:25 AM, Michael Kruger wrote: Other general note. If we have to use some documentation tools to write OI documentation, they should be available in OI repository. Perhaps it's not true for IDEs, but basic tools should be there. In the case of this website, there really aren't

Re: [oi-dev] OpenIndiana Docs - updated

2016-05-17 Thread Nikola M
On 05/17/16 01:25 AM, Michael Kruger wrote: more useful. Just so you know, it's been my intention all along to start pulling in reusable content from the Wiki, etc. On the contrary, ways for reviewing your writings are that are included in Wiki after revision. Wiki is here to stay for a

Re: [oi-dev] OpenIndiana Docs - updated

2016-05-17 Thread Nikola M
On 05/17/16 04:19 AM, Michael Kruger wrote: On 05/16/2016 04:33 AM, Jim Klimov wrote: In your defense, perhaps it makes sense to mark Michael's pages visibly as a draft/experiment/poc/etc. of a possible future of OI docs and not the official resource at this moment, so readers of the preview

Re: [oi-dev] OpenIndiana Docs - updated

2016-05-17 Thread Nikola M
On 05/17/16 05:46 AM, Michael Kruger wrote: On 05/16/2016 02:43 AM, Nikola M wrote: Posting any "guides" and "roles" inside Openindiana without consultation of others and wider audience is simply arrogant and destructive to Openindiana and that represents TROLLING of

Re: [oi-dev] OpenIndiana Docs - updated

2016-05-16 Thread Nikola M
On 05/16/16 11:27 AM, Nikola M wrote: On 05/16/16 09:43 AM, Adam Števko wrote: STOP calling your private site "Openindiana docs" they are not , simply because you just wrote something on your site and you just say so. Working on things alone and then coming up with aspiration to t

Re: [oi-dev] OpenIndiana Docs - updated

2016-05-16 Thread Nikola M
On 05/16/16 09:43 AM, Adam Števko wrote: STOP calling your private site "Openindiana docs" they are not , simply because you just wrote something on your site and you just say so. Working on things alone and then coming up with aspiration to turn around everything is not friendly behavior to

Re: [oi-dev] MATE 1.14 Desktop for OpenIndiana

2016-05-12 Thread Nikola M
On 05/12/16 05:31 AM, benta...@chez.com wrote: Hi, After unconmpressing the archive from / (so location of binaries are in /usr/local/bin), most of the binaries complains about not having access to libdconf.so.1 which isn't in the archive nor standard repos. Calculator works fine, though

[oi-dev] Undead Thunderbird

2016-05-09 Thread Nikola M
Hello, I catched Thunderbird acting strange yesterday, after being open for some time. Sending on oi-dev per xenol suggestion. It is stopping to refresh it's window and was freezing without response and later closing window by itself , while staying in the background as a process..

Re: [oi-dev] MATE 1.14 Desktop for OpenIndiana

2016-05-09 Thread Nikola M
On 05/ 8/16 11:57 PM, Nikola M wrote: On 05/ 8/16 05:35 PM, ken mays via oi-dev wrote: Hello, The MATE 1.14 Desktop Environment is the continuation of GNOME 2. It provides an intuitive and attractive desktop environment using traditional metaphors for Linux and other Unix-like operating

Re: [oi-dev] MATE 1.14 Desktop for OpenIndiana

2016-05-09 Thread Nikola M
On 05/ 9/16 07:59 AM, Jim Klimov wrote: Hi Nikola, I guess you're late to this particular party - the way to move forward with the resources and luggage we have was indeed discussed long ago. Sorry I haven't seen it mentioned, maybe I missed it, was here most the time for past years.

Re: [oi-dev] MATE 1.14 Desktop for OpenIndiana

2016-05-08 Thread Nikola M
On 05/ 9/16 02:45 AM, Aurélien Larcher wrote: On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 1:18 AM, Nikola M <minik...@gmail.com <mailto:minik...@gmail.com>> wrote: OK. The difference is between names and labels: labels are moving targets. You can't introduce any labels, because

Re: [oi-dev] MATE 1.14 Desktop for OpenIndiana

2016-05-08 Thread Nikola M
On 05/ 9/16 01:09 AM, Aurélien Larcher wrote: On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 1:02 AM, Nikola M <minik...@gmail.com <mailto:minik...@gmail.com>> wrote: It is about precising what is named what. Not looking what is active and how long and how. You can't call /dev past

Re: [oi-dev] MATE 1.14 Desktop for OpenIndiana

2016-05-08 Thread Nikola M
On 05/ 9/16 12:08 AM, Aurélien Larcher wrote: There is nothing like "legacy release". Bad choice if wording. /legacy (pkg.openindiana.org/legacy ) holds opensolaris releases up tp snv_134 and that is what Legacy is. You are referring to

Re: [oi-dev] MATE 1.14 Desktop for OpenIndiana

2016-05-08 Thread Nikola M
On 05/ 8/16 05:35 PM, ken mays via oi-dev wrote: Hello, The MATE 1.14 Desktop Environment is the continuation of GNOME 2. It provides an intuitive and attractive desktop environment using traditional metaphors for Linux and other Unix-like operating systems. MATE 1.14 Desktop Environment

Re: [oi-dev] MATE 1.14 Desktop for OpenIndiana

2016-05-08 Thread Nikola M
On 05/ 8/16 07:32 PM, Aurélien Larcher wrote: On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 6:51 PM, Alexander > wrote: It looks like a fresh wind blowing in the OI sails again. Maybe at some point we''ll even get Firefly as default recovery

Re: [oi-dev] OpenIndiana Docs (proof of concept) - What is it all about?

2016-05-07 Thread Nikola M
On 05/ 6/16 03:51 PM, Aurélien Larcher wrote: You need to understand WHY you support some actual project, possibly using it and wanting to have sucsess because you NEED it to work out. Not just some side-hobby because it is good place to spend your time without personal

Re: [oi-dev] demonstration docs website

2016-05-07 Thread Nikola M
On 05/ 6/16 08:06 PM, WebDawg wrote: I am starting from the first email because there have been so many replies and responses to this one and no one has provided anything but it seems negative feedback to this git site. I also see very little contribution to the subject of documentation. Right

Re: [oi-dev] OpenIndiana Docs (proof of concept) - What is it all about?

2016-05-06 Thread Nikola M
On 05/ 4/16 07:00 AM, Michael Kruger wrote: * Community conduct * Project visibility * Proof of concepts * Version control * Hosting infrastructure * Project marketing, SEO * Existing docs (OSOL Docs) * Viability/Usability of Wiki * dlc.openindiana.org/docs * Documentation Standards (media

Re: [oi-dev] demonstration docs website

2016-05-02 Thread Nikola M
On 05/ 2/16 06:29 PM, WebDawg wrote: You guys are all so very confusing. It seems to me someone put together an example docs site and everyone keeps talking about how it is hosted on github, licensing, and stuff. Please hit "reply" when posting to the list so your answers stay in-line on

Re: [oi-dev] demonstration docs website

2016-05-02 Thread Nikola M
On 05/ 2/16 03:44 PM, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Mon, 2 May 2016, Nikola M wrote: On 05/ 2/16 08:56 AM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: On 05/ 1/16 10:48 PM, Nikola M wrote: *You aether accept open documentation license including Contributor agreement to OI or you contribute your time at somewhere

Re: [oi-dev] demonstration docs website

2016-05-02 Thread Nikola M
On 05/ 2/16 10:30 AM, Илья Архипкин wrote: Very well written, and you officially their conviction simply am not who wrote a lot of paperwork, but in this segment of the Russian order to find a lot of people are erotic, free content. And to compete with my domain get a DDoS-attacks, spam

Re: [oi-dev] demonstration docs website

2016-05-02 Thread Nikola M
On 05/ 2/16 08:56 AM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: On 05/ 1/16 10:48 PM, Nikola M wrote: *You aether accept open documentation license including Contributor agreement to OI or you contribute your time at somewhere else.* Why don't you let the people who run the project decide whether

Re: [oi-dev] demonstration docs website

2016-05-02 Thread Nikola M
On 05/ 1/16 03:13 PM, Michael Kruger wrote: point, the site and it's contents automatically builds and deploys upon git commit. Building prior making something should be done on OI's servers to ensure it includes only what is in the source. All Openindiana infrastructure things can be easily

Re: [oi-dev] demonstration docs website

2016-05-01 Thread Nikola M
On 05/ 1/16 06:30 AM, Michael Kruger wrote: Hello all, Here is a little something I have been working to help showcase documentation for the OpenIndiana project. Currently hosted are: OpenIndiana FAQ (Complete, but still growing and improving) OpenIndiana Handbook (little more than a

Re: [oi-dev] issues with dir action in IPS

2016-04-19 Thread Nikola M
On 04/19/16 01:00 AM, Alexander Pyhalov wrote: So, it seems natural to have single service to automate post-installation tasks. In OpenSolaris/OI we had such service for the long time, system/postrun:default. Unfortunately, it had a lot of lu-upgrade-related legacy, and I suppose wasn't usable

Re: [oi-dev] [CFR] kvmadm need testers

2016-03-23 Thread Nikola M
On 03/22/16 11:11 PM, Alexander Pyhalov wrote: Alexander Pyhalov писал 23.03.2016 01:07: Hello. Currently I don't have server installations suitable for testing KVM, so I need testers. And binary package is here: pkg://userland/system/qemu/kvmadm@0.10.3,5.11-2015.0.2.0:20160322T221009Z at

Re: [oi-dev] glib changes review

2016-03-15 Thread Nikola M
On 03/11/16 09:15 PM, Alexander Pyhalov wrote: Here's the new version : https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/compare/Openindiana:oi/hipster...pyhalov:pfexec What is changed: - now we use pfexec to run brasero and sound juicer; - we don't care if user runs with EUID 0, it's his own

Re: [oi-dev] new year

2016-01-17 Thread Nikola M
On 01/14/16 09:15 AM, Alexander Pyhalov wrote: Hi. What do you think about naming conventions? We currently have 2015.0.2.X package version to mark RELEASE_MAJOR and UPDATENUM . I think we'll preserve them until new snapshot (which will become 2016.0.0.X). I think it is much better to have

Re: [oi-dev] [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSolaris

2016-01-11 Thread Nikola M
On 01/ 9/16 04:09 PM, Aurélien Larcher wrote: Hi Martin, The sole fact that only 4 persons showed happiness that Inetl-KMS now works on Illumos. No - cannot beieve there are only 4 folks who waited for this. Your frustration is more than legitimate considering your dedication.

Re: [oi-dev] R.I.P: Ian Murdock got murdered by USA-"Police"

2016-01-06 Thread Nikola M
On 01/ 6/16 07:49 AM, Мартин Бохниг wrote: *Ian Murdock ,* a programmer and founder of DEBorah-IAN and I-nd-IA-a whose achievements are too many to list, "committed suicide" after being beaten and raped by the Police. Here his

Re: [oi-dev] R.I.P: Ian Murdock got murdered by USA-"Police"

2016-01-06 Thread Nikola M
On 01/ 6/16 01:07 PM, Мартин Бохниг wrote: I am absolutely in SHOCK : Please Martin, sorry to hear the news, but let's have list stay on-topic. Thank you a lot! ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org

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