Thanks for helping to make my goals clear, Albert.
Let me elucidate a bit more.
I'm specifically not interested in distro that attempts to rehash what
Oracle is doing, or one who's sole benefit is a more liberal license
than what Oracle provides. For a variety of technical reasons, I don't
Please make sure I get any security notices for things that are relevant
to illumos or ON.
- Garrett
On Mon, 2011-01-24 at 13:04 +, Alasdair Lumsden wrote:
Hi All,
I've put together two security resources (You'll need to be in the
security group of the wiki to see this - if
On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 18:41 +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote:
Garrett D'Amore garr...@nexenta.com wrote:
I think in general, the idea of swapping back and forth between
different versions of ONNV is not going to work out so well.
There are challenges related to dependencies between
Sounds good to me. Going forward, we need to recognize that we need to
decouple our releases from Oracle build numbers.
Albert Lee tr...@opensolaris.org wrote:
Hi all,
At today's developer meeting, we've gone over our release plans and
this is a summary of what we will do going forward:
Our
I also think it would be a good idea for us to collect a list of
software that we still want or have to use another computer for.
For example, I use Ubuntu to get at Skype, Chrome, and GNUcash. (The
last of these is because I have no time to figure out how to build it
for Solaris/illumos.)
On Mon, 2011-03-21 at 13:00 +0300, Andrey Sokolov wrote:
I'd like to participate in Linux binary support without zones
project. Is it possible?
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On Mon, 2011-03-21 at 16:16 +0200, Cyril Plisko wrote:
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Andrey Sokolov
kere...@solaris.kirov.ru wrote:
Hi Deano,
I would like to write a program that will convert linux binaries to
opensolaris binaries. The program will change dynamic relocation records. I
illumos kind of has a mascot in the phoenix... admittedly not a very
friendly one, but a starting point perhaps?
On 03/30/11 08:34 AM, Hernan Saltiel wrote:
Ideas for the mascot?
This would be a starting point for the stickers, t-shirts...and why
not, some theming too!
We thought about this
to use this device. The
best way to do that is with the gstreamer-properties application.Using that
you can select OSS audio output and the specific device to use. That should
solve the problem for you.
-- Garrett D'Amore
On May 23, 2011, at 12:21 AM, Ken Gunderson kgund...@teamcool.net
illumos doesn't have the POSIX 2008 locale APIs. I've considered adding
them... it would not be too difficult, although we would need to eliminate some
process global state ... are there applications that consume these? If there
are, then its worth the time and effort.
-- Garrett D'Amore
Just a quick note. I fully support moving to an open C++ library, but be
advised that we will still need the closed Sun binaries in order to support
legacy apps. Of course I think nobody should use C++ but that is a different
rant and probably highly controversial. :)
-- Garrett D'Amore
illumos is already using ssh as the primary hg mechanism, fyi. Seems to work
far better than http.
-- Garrett D'Amore
On May 25, 2011, at 3:45 PM, Bayard Bell buffer.g.overf...@googlemail.com
wrote:
One other keepalive on this thread is that I'd really like for us to move to
using ssh
On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 01:12 +0400, Alexey Zaytsev wrote:
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 00:05, Julian Wiesener j...@vtoc.de wrote:
Hi,
as i stated before, i would like to see an proposal than includes some
details about what problems a toolswitch will solve. I've absolutely no
preference as i
Frankly, I'd rather see this integrated into illumos proper. It has
dependencies upon interfaces in the kernel, and IMO it belongs with the kernel.
(Likewise, I'd like to see Richard's arcstat integrated.)
- Garrett
On Sep 3, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Josef 'Jeff' Sipek wrote:
Any issues
So, I believe that 3 might not be such a bad option, because I think
technically the openssl package and APIs have historically been considered
Private (i.e. unstable and not for use by ISVs.) This is the Solaris view of
it at any rate.
- Garrett
On Sep 3, 2011, at 1:56 PM, Alasdair
I'm glad to see this, although a little disappointed that its strictly an
illumos userland bit -- why not also include some opportunity for illumos-gate.
- Garrett
On Mar 23, 2012, at 8:58 AM, Bayard Bell wrote:
Thanks to Linda Kateley, Nexenta's community manager, we are holding a
, Mar 23, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Garrett D'Amore garr...@damore.org wrote:
I'm glad to see this, although a little disappointed that its strictly an
illumos userland bit -- why not also include some opportunity for
illumos-gate.
I've definitely been encouraging people with a primary interest
Garrett D'Amore
garr...@damore.org
On May 29, 2012, at 8:15 AM, Joerg Schilling wrote:
Garrett D'Amore garr...@damore.org wrote:
BTW: illumos does not support SVr4 packaging, SchilliX-ON does.
That is a false statement.
We have support for SVR4 packaging in the illumos gate
Very briefly, I think there has been significant innovation occurring in the
stack -- the biggest and most obvious we all know about:
* ZFS - lots and lots of goodness here, and the set of contributors is quickly
expanding.
* DTrace - again, lots of enhancements here.
* KVM - while not
Just a quick note to since I'm the PL for illumos - or I was until recently.
We've made some adjustments which basically make that role obsolete by creation
of a very simple governance structure that reflects a meritocracy. It is also
split between two bodies, one that addresses technology and
Originally Alasdair indicated that he wanted OI to be part of the illumos
foundation, so this approach of earmarking the donation makes sense.
Note that in the future I hope that illumos will reserve a percentage of
earmark donations for its general fund but since we have not set up the
check to be
done by a userland daemon, which is far more interesting than just that the
clock interrupt handler is still working properly. :-)
- Garrett
Sorry for the long ramble,
//Jim
On 2013-03-28 18:21, Garrett D'Amore wrote:
On Mar 28, 2013, at 9:39 AM, Jim Klimov jimkli
I've tried to stay away from commenting on this thread, but….
The problem with OI is lack of sufficient man power and leadership. There are
other problems as well (vision is one I referred to in the past).
But most urgently, to keep OI going, with any kind of cadence, it needs more
Fundamentally, the question you all should be asking is, what is the purpose of
the project?
The problem with OI has always been lack of a clear vision. The original
purpose, to be a free community-run clone of Solaris 11, had no future. It was
doomed to fail because it was an attempt to
On May 9, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Milan Jurik milan.ju...@xylab.cz wrote:
Hi,
OK, so start yet another distro :-)
OI needs one thing it does not have - release engineering team. Jon is
too busy and I cannot do that. I am happy to work on some things from
time to time for fun but my job is
On May 9, 2013, at 4:00 PM, Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us
wrote:
On Thu, 9 May 2013, Garrett D'Amore wrote:
Upshot, *today* anyone who thinks there is a commercial future in illumos on
the desktop is probably smoking something. There are a few people who would
be willing
On May 10, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Martin Bochnig mar...@martux.org wrote:
The question remains, if it really needs to be IPS based.
Or if it can be SVR4 and CSW style pkgutil.net.
If you read Garrett's mails he also asked this question from time to time,
just the day before yesterday again.
On May 11, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Nikola M. minik...@gmail.com wrote:
On 05/10/13 02:19 AM, Garrett D'Amore wrote:
more constructive than whinging about it will be to find ways to either a)
make a commercially viable case for it so people can get paid to work on it,
or b) lead a volunteer
On May 12, 2013, at 9:05 AM, Magnus mag...@yonderway.com wrote:
On May 12, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Jim Klimov wrote:
I believe, 32-bit should be retained. While it is of little utility
for ZFS and other huge-RAM jobs, it may be required for some netbooks,
older hardware repurposed for tests
On May 12, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Jim Klimov jimkli...@cos.ru wrote:
On 2013-05-12 19:06, Garrett D'Amore wrote:
So, out of curiosity -- *who* is actively running illumos on 32-bit kit
today? I'm not interested in hypothetical uses or kit that is sitting
around in your garage waiting for you
I have a hard time believing you would choose to switch to Linux instead of
taking the time to upgrade the hardware. A two or three year or even five year
old system will probably be a big upgrade and cost less than the labor to
switch to Linux.
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On May 12, 2013, at 12:13
, Nikola M. minik...@gmail.com wrote:
On 05/12/13 07:10 PM, Garrett D'Amore wrote:
On May 12, 2013, at 9:02 AM, Jim Klimov jimkli...@cos.ru wrote:
I believe, 32-bit should be retained. While it is of little utility
for ZFS and other huge-RAM jobs, it may be required for some netbooks,
older
On May 18, 2013, at 8:49 AM, David Höppner 0xf...@gmail.com wrote:
no.
Discussion was about discontinuing the 32-bit kernel and to enable
64-bit usr/src/cmd.
Userland will be 32- and 64-bit. Upstream oracle builds 32- and 64-bit
libraries, while
standalone programs are converted to
I didn't see a twitter friend request but to be honest I rarely even use
twitter. I would not make too many decisions based on my twitter activity (and
mostly lack thereof) if I were you.
I will contact you out of band to discuss other items.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 1, 2013, at 3:34 PM,
We should chat on Skype. I can certainly add you on twitter. I do think that
if you can commercialize it, then it's worth doing. I know that there are
folks who would like to be able to pay for commercial support for a Solaris 10
compatible upgrade. There are challenges of course but I
Vitaliy's work is incomplete, and probably cannot be used without substantial
effort. I'm not aware of *any* NFS v.1 implementations that operate properly
on either illumos or Solaris.
- Garrett
On Jun 17, 2013, at 11:09 AM, Randy S sim@live.nl wrote:
Hello all,
I'm looking
On Jun 17, 2013, at 12:43 PM, Randy S sim@live.nl wrote:
Thanks Garrett for your answer.
Btw, I was under the impression that nexenta also uses an illumos based
distro with these nfs versions active as a base for one of their storage
clusters.
When I left, they had been using a
Yep.
The original questions were different, but reflected a misunderstanding on
Chris' part. To be completely honest, I'd rather have either left the original
questions as is, or redone the interview after the original misunderstanding
about my role with OI was cleared up.
- Garrett
On Jul 17, 2013, at 7:19 PM, Nikola M. minik...@gmail.com wrote:
On 07/17/13 11:15 PM, Alexander Pyhalov wrote:
Nikola M. писал 17.07.2013 21:47:
OI Hipster,
(illumos-5c069a6) , last two updates have Xchat dumps core /crashing
and X lock have no OI logo.
About xchat - I've tried it.
On Jul 22, 2013, at 9:48 AM, Jim Klimov jimkli...@cos.ru wrote:
On 2013-07-22 17:59, Garrett D'Amore wrote:
On Jul 22, 2013, at 8:57 AM, Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@oracle.com
wrote:
On 07/22/13 07:30 AM, Garrett D'Amore wrote:
unless it had explicit approval to do so from any
should be used to reference the
CDDL version 1.0 for each new file introduced in illumos.
- Garrett D'Amore
/*
* This file and its contents are supplied under the terms of the
* Common Development and Distribution License (CDDL), version 1.0.
* You may only use this file in accordance
On Jul 22, 2013, at 8:57 AM, Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@oracle.com
wrote:
On 07/22/13 07:30 AM, Garrett D'Amore wrote:
unless it had explicit approval to do so from any joint contributors.
Remember the terms of the Sun Contributor Agreement granted Sun co-ownership
and the right
On Jul 22, 2013, at 2:03 AM, Joerg Schilling
joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:
Garrett D'Amore garrett.dam...@dey-sys.com wrote:
CDDL should not contain changes to itself, nor additional copyright
notices of any kind.
Its inappropriate (and in violation of the license terms
On Aug 19, 2013, at 6:11 AM, David Höppner 0xf...@gmail.com wrote:
On 19 August 2013 15:01, Alexander Pyhalov a...@rsu.ru wrote:
What determines this check? Can these checks be relaxed or onbld scripts are
expected to fail with new mercurial?
I think that are just versions know to work. It
. The rationale here is more
about my ability to be an effective mentor than anything I have against remote
workers in particular — the past few times I’ve mentored I just think I’ve not
been effective at helping my students.
--
Garrett D'Amore
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On February 13, 2014 at 9:14:40 AM, Albert
But they do. Openindiana is still the reference as the only disto that can
build vanilla an unmodified illumos-gate. Unless that has changed?
Resources are tight enough that if there are mentors for OI willing to help out
I see no issue. Unless we have a larger number of mentors and viable
at stake. Unless a project poses a risk to the
“reputation” for illumos, it shouldn’t matter to other parties.
Thanks.
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On February 14, 2014 at 9:19:35 AM, Keith Wesolowski
(keith.wesolow...@joyent.com) wrote:
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 04:20:43PM +
in *any* of
those will not be very likely to succeed in this project in the time allotted
for GSoC, IMO.
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On February 27, 2014 at 11:06:22 AM, Adam Števko (adam.ste...@gmail.com) wrote:
Hi,
another possible project for GSoC could be adding TRIM support
.
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On March 10, 2014 at 10:59:38 PM, Alexander Pyhalov (a...@rsu.ru) wrote:
Hello.
After integration of 4522 the build doesn't fail nearly often enough we
have some problems using nightly to build non-illumos consolidations.
At least I couldn't fix slim_source
I'd love to see it go. But I will wait for others to complain first.
One idea would be to eject it from the gate and put it into a new repo where it
could also be updated if people still want it.
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On May 6, 2014, at 12:48 AM, Alexander Pyhalov
ripped out, placed in a well-known location, ought
to be adequate.)
On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Garrett D'Amore
develo...@lists.illumos.org wrote:
I'd love to see it go. But I will wait for others to complain first.
One idea would be to eject it from the gate and put it into a new
Well said Keith.
The idea here is to give OI (and any other distributors who might happen to
care) a chance to react, and work together with us; not to give OI veto
powers over a direction that makes obvious sense.
Right now, parted and co. are rotting bits in illumos. Nobody maintains
them.
:
On 07/22/14 05:11 PM, Garrett D'Amore wrote:
ntfs-3g doesn't depend on ntfsprogs.
I'd not heard that GParted wasn't supported on illumos, although I'm not
terribly surprised. These days, dual boot seems to be infrequently used --
long since supplanted by use of virtualization technology
:
On 07/22/14 08:07 PM, Garrett D'Amore wrote:
Running illumos on bare metal makes great sense; as a hypervisor, you want
to do that. But that use case is completely at adds with the idea of
running dual boot.
That two things (VMs and dual boot) are not against each other, and I don't
see why
Does hipster build stock illumos gate? I haven't tried omnios with dan's
fixed yet but if we have a solid platform that is actually maintained that can
build stock illumos then we can just stop worrying about OI. They can fix if or
when they are motivated to do so.
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On
etting better graphics support would be higher on the list (yea, the
>> other 'dropped' project).
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Randy
>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On 11 Jun 2019, at 22:58, Garrett D'Amore wrot
My gut instinct is that this isn’t that interesting – most everyone is running
illumos in either VMs, or in datacenter applications where suspend/resume has
little if any applicability.
While the work itself is probably interesting, and it may enable new
applications for illumos, the concern
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