Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-25 Thread Gianluca Turconi
Il 24/11/2011 16.24, Ariel Constenla-Haile ha scritto: hunspell/hunspell-1.2.8-thesfix.patch hunspell/hunspell-mingw.patch hunspell/hunspell-solaris.patch hunspell/hunspell-stacksmash.patch hunspell/hunspell-wntconfig.patch hyphen/hyphen-2.7.1.patch hyphen/hyphen-2.7.1-read-charset.patch [...]

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-25 Thread Gianluca Turconi
Il 24/11/2011 17.39, Ariel Constenla-Haile ha scritto: Dictionaries are developed by individuals/entities outside OOo, they were never developed inside the OOo source tree. I'm not sure what was the procedure (sure Gianluca can comment), but it seems like these dictionaries were updated on

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-25 Thread Gianluca Turconi
Il 24/11/2011 23.53, Mathias Bauer ha scritto: It seems that you don't get the point. I just wanted to mention that the dictionary files we have in svn can be seen as and*end product* and so probably(!) are comparable more with a binary file than with a source file. Indeed, .dic files are

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-25 Thread Gianluca Turconi
Il 25/11/2011 9.00, Gianluca Turconi ha scritto: Indeed, .dic files are munched word list that are compressed according to the affixation rules included into the .aff files. So, thoungh .dic files are simple text files, they aren't sources because they are already precompiled files, especially

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-25 Thread Andre Fischer
Hi Rob, all, On 24.11.2011 18:50, Rob Weir wrote: On Nov 24, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Pedro Giffunip...@apache.org wrote: Hi Ariel; If the comment on the Wiki has been approved by Apache legal and not just an interpretation you guys are right. Weak copy left (category-b) like MPL may be

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-25 Thread Andre Fischer
Hi Mathias, On 24.11.2011 18:04, Mathias Bauer wrote: Just a dumb question: why do we think that the dicts are source code? At least those without patches are distributed without any treatment. We just package them. So where is the difference between an MPL library and an MPL .dic file?

Re: [Code] issue 118623: Update Rhino from 1.5R5 to 1.7R3

2011-11-25 Thread Andre Fischer
Hi Tsutomu, On 24.11.2011 18:21, Tsutomu Uchino wrote: I updated the state of the issue 118612 to INVALID. Please forget my request to commit the patch. But why? It would be great to upgrade rhino instead of just removing it. Regards, Andre Thanks, Tsutom 2011/11/24 Tsutomu

Re: Rationalizing two OpenOffice websites

2011-11-25 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 11/24/11 6:12 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: 2011/11/24 Jürgen Schmidtjogischm...@googlemail.com On 11/23/11 5:55 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: +1...all good, and something we had discussed early on. However, as I work on porting legacy info over, I am wondering what to do about the more developer

Re: Line Breaks and Not

2011-11-25 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 11/25/2011 07:42 AM, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: My usual e-mail plaintext format does not have fixed line breaks inside paragraphs. That allows reflow in accordance with the recipients e-mail browser window parameters (just like with web pages). yes, pretty normal as I don't know nobody

Re: [PROPOSAL] Keeping AOO Attack Surface Small

2011-11-25 Thread Rob Weir
On Nov 25, 2011, at 1:42 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: Rob, Thanks for this. You're right, I did not consider the enterprise case. So maybe think of our goal as supporting a defined policy, where such policy might have an out-of-the-box default, but can also be

Could not create java implementation loader

2011-11-25 Thread Bert Frees
Hi folks, I'm sure this issue has been brought up before... From what I've read on forums, A LOT of Java extensions can not be installed by some users because of the Could not create Java implementation loader error. The extension odt2braille I developed has this problem too, in Windows.

Re: Could not create java implementation loader

2011-11-25 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 11/25/11 2:50 PM, Bert Frees wrote: Hi folks, I'm sure this issue has been brought up before... From what I've read on forums, A LOT of Java extensions can not be installed by some users because of the Could not create Java implementation loader error. The extension odt2braille I

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-25 Thread Mathias Bauer
On 25.11.2011 10:38, Andre Fischer wrote: Hi Mathias, On 24.11.2011 18:04, Mathias Bauer wrote: Just a dumb question: why do we think that the dicts are source code? At least those without patches are distributed without any treatment. We just package them. So where is the difference between

Re: [CODE]: spellchecker, hunspell, MacOS

2011-11-25 Thread Raphael Bircher
Am 25.11.11 14:47, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: Hi, do anybody know if Hunspell is also used and necessary on MacOS? On Mac we normaly use the native Spell checker. You can switch to the OOo Spellchecker if you want. For Language who are supportet by Apple it would be not a big Problem. But

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-25 Thread Andre Fischer
On 25.11.2011 14:59, Mathias Bauer wrote: On 25.11.2011 10:38, Andre Fischer wrote: Hi Mathias, On 24.11.2011 18:04, Mathias Bauer wrote: Just a dumb question: why do we think that the dicts are source code? At least those without patches are distributed without any treatment. We just

Re: [CODE]: spellchecker, hunspell, MacOS

2011-11-25 Thread eric b
Le 25 nov. 11 à 14:47, Jürgen Schmidt a écrit : Hi, Hi, do anybody know if Hunspell is also used and necessary on MacOS? I don't know exactly (native spellchecker is used imho) but it is built as static library IIRC. I noticed some build problems after the latest update and did

Re: [Code] issue 118623: Update Rhino from 1.5R5 to 1.7R3

2011-11-25 Thread Tsutomu Uchino
Hi Andre, 2011/11/25 Andre Fischer a...@a-w-f.de: Hi Tsutomu, On 25.11.2011 13:08, Tsutomu Uchino wrote: Hi Andre, Yesterday I got a suggestion about MPL license from Pedro. But it is clear now. I have already reopned the issue. Ah, very good :-) Additionally, I noticed about

Re: [CODE]: spellchecker, hunspell, MacOS

2011-11-25 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hi Jürgen, On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 02:47:45PM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi, do anybody know if Hunspell is also used and necessary on MacOS? I noticed some build problems after the latest update and did a build without --enable-hunspell. The build breaks in

Re: Could not create java implementation loader

2011-11-25 Thread Bert Frees
On 25/11/2011 14:57, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 11/25/11 2:50 PM, Bert Frees wrote: Hi folks, I'm sure this issue has been brought up before... From what I've read on forums, A LOT of Java extensions can not be installed by some users because of the Could not create Java implementation loader

Re: Non-Apache maintenance release for OOo 3.3?

2011-11-25 Thread Stefan Taxhet
Hi, Am 17.11.2011 15:34, schrieb Donald Harbison: We encourage you to present a more complete proposal for discussion. This is a start. Just a quick note that a proposal has been submitted using the form at http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/trademarks.html to ooo-private...

Re: [CODE]: spellchecker, hunspell, MacOS

2011-11-25 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 11/25/11 3:54 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: Hi Jürgen, On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 02:47:45PM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi, do anybody know if Hunspell is also used and necessary on MacOS? I noticed some build problems after the latest update and did a build without --enable-hunspell.

RE: Non-Apache maintenance release for OOo 3.3?

2011-11-25 Thread Allen Pulsifer
Just a quick note that a proposal has been submitted using the form at http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/trademarks.html to ooo-private... Hello Stefan, I would only be willing to consider your proposal if it addressed in detail each of the questions/issues I raised in this

Re: [CODE]: spellchecker, hunspell, MacOS

2011-11-25 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 05:32:39PM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 11/25/11 3:54 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: Hi Jürgen, On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 02:47:45PM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi, do anybody know if Hunspell is also used and necessary on MacOS? I noticed some build

Re: Could not create java implementation loader

2011-11-25 Thread Bert Frees
Hi Oliver, 2011/11/25 Oliver Brinzing oliver.brinz...@gmx.de Hi Bert, did you add a vm arg for remote debugging? http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Extensions_trouble_shooting No, I didn't, and I assume the people that have reported this issue to me didn't either, because most of

Re: Could not create java implementation loader

2011-11-25 Thread Raphael Bircher
Am 25.11.11 16:13, schrieb Bert Frees: On 25/11/2011 14:57, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 11/25/11 2:50 PM, Bert Frees wrote: Hi folks, I'm sure this issue has been brought up before... From what I've read on forums, A LOT of Java extensions can not be installed by some users because of the

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-25 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Gianluca Turconi wrote: Il 24/11/2011 17.39, Ariel Constenla-Haile ha scritto: Dictionaries are developed by individuals/entities outside OOo, they were never developed inside the OOo source tree. I'm not sure what was the procedure (sure Gianluca can comment), but it seems like these

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-25 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 25/11/2011 Gianluca Turconi wrote: Il 24/11/2011 23.53, Mathias Bauer ha scritto: It seems that you don't get the point. I just wanted to mention that the dictionary files we have in svn can be seen as and*end product* and so probably(!) are comparable more with a binary file than with a

Re: [Code] strategy for child works spaces

2011-11-25 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi; It looks like the IP Clearance stuff is under control so I would like to move completely to a development branch if you guys create it. I also suspect the FreeBSD port will need adjustments for the new gnumake stuff. cheers, Pedro. --- On Thu, 11/24/11, Ariel Constenla-Haile

gnumake4 integration (was: Re: [Code] strategy for child works spaces)

2011-11-25 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hi Pedro, * On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 01:59:38PM -0800, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hi; It looks like the IP Clearance stuff is under control so I would like to move completely to a development branch if you guys create it. I also suspect the FreeBSD port will need adjustments for the new

RE: gnumake4 integration (was: Re: [Code] strategy for child works spaces)

2011-11-25 Thread Gavin McDonald
-Original Message- From: Ariel Constenla-Haile [mailto:arie...@apache.org] Sent: Saturday, 26 November 2011 8:34 AM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: gnumake4 integration (was: Re: [Code] strategy for child works spaces) Hi Pedro, * On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 01:59:38PM

Re: gnumake4 integration (was: Re: [Code] strategy for child works spaces)

2011-11-25 Thread Pedro Giffuni
+1 from me I am pretty sure this wont interfere with the IP Clearance that is left and even there, getting us less dependent on Dmake is good. Pedro. --- On Fri, 11/25/11, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org wrote: ... Hi Pedro, * On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 01:59:38PM -0800, Pedro Giffuni

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-25 Thread Mathias Bauer
Am 25.11.2011 15:16, schrieb Andre Fischer: On 25.11.2011 14:59, Mathias Bauer wrote: On 25.11.2011 10:38, Andre Fischer wrote: Hi Mathias, On 24.11.2011 18:04, Mathias Bauer wrote: Just a dumb question: why do we think that the dicts are source code? At least those without patches are

Re: [WWW][Policy] Participate! - Rewriting contributing.openoffice.org

2011-11-25 Thread Kay Schenk
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 10:10 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: snip I agree that we can be quick. We will ask Apache Infra to permanently redirect contributing.openoffice.org to our new page either to

Re: gnumake4 integration (was: Re: [Code] strategy for child works spaces)

2011-11-25 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hello Gavin, On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 08:39:20AM +1000, Gavin McDonald wrote: I have finished building on Fedora 16 64 bits, and fixing some issues. I started building on WinXP (a VM, so it takes 5 hrs). Sorry to hijack, where are the requirements and build instructions for building on XP

Unaccounted copyleft libraries in THIRDPARTYLICENSEREADME.html

2011-11-25 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi; Just running a check through the things registered in the old documentation I found mention of this libraries/packages: Neolight libmspack NSIS I couldn't find them with opengrok so I think the document is outdated. If someone else sees them, feel free to make good use of your nearest axe

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-25 Thread Michael Stahl
On 24.11.2011 21:18, Mathias Bauer wrote: We don't need to change the dic files, we just take them as they are ha! third party stuff that doesn't need to be patched! how un-usual a concept...

OO.o 3.3.1 Maintenance Release Consideration

2011-11-25 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
There are many details to figure out to have a maintenance release of OpenOffice.org 3.3.0. This situation reminds me that here have been privately-produced and distributed editions of OpenOffice.org. The ones in my experience were produced by Novell. They tracked *existing* OpenOffice.org

Re: [Code] issue 118623: Update Rhino from 1.5R5 to 1.7R3

2011-11-25 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi; I am not against the update but I found this Java V8 bridge under AL2 which would further save licensing issues (and should be faster than Rhino): http://code.google.com/p/jav8/ enjoy, Pedro. --- On Fri, 11/25/11, Tsutomu Uchino hanya.r...@gmail.com wrote: From: Tsutomu Uchino

Re: [WWW][Policy] Participate! - Rewriting contributing.openoffice.org

2011-11-25 Thread Dave Fisher
On Nov 25, 2011, at 3:16 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 10:10 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: snip I agree that we can be quick. We will ask Apache Infra to permanently redirect

Re: Unaccounted copyleft libraries in THIRDPARTYLICENSEREADME.html

2011-11-25 Thread eric b
Le 26 nov. 11 à 00:44, Pedro Giffuni a écrit : Hi; Hi Pedro, Just running a check through the things registered in the old documentation I found mention of this libraries/packages: Neolight NeoLight is a plugin, who was udner LGPL license. So we (mac os X porters) asked NeoOffice

Re: gnumake4 integration (was: Re: [Code] strategy for child works spaces)

2011-11-25 Thread eric b
Hi Ariel, Le 25 nov. 11 à 23:34, Ariel Constenla-Haile a écrit : Hi Pedro, * On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 01:59:38PM -0800, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hi; It looks like the IP Clearance stuff is under control so I would like to move completely to a development branch if you guys create it. I

Re: Non-Apache maintenance release for OOo 3.3?

2011-11-25 Thread Martin Hollmichel
Allen, in the past the OpenOffice.org release process for micro releases looked like this: * propose a tentative release data 3 months behind the release of the minor version * propose issues and must haves for the micro release, new features and new strings (which would cause a new

Re: Unaccounted copyleft libraries in THIRDPARTYLICENSEREADME.html

2011-11-25 Thread Martin Hollmichel
On 11/26/11 12:44 AM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: libmspack I think this becomes obsolete with OpenOffice.org 3.0 release, was used for downloading some public available, but non OpenSource Fonts, NSIS NSIS was a prereqiste for doing packaging download sets for Windows, so it is not included as