Re: investigation using Google Webmaster tools

2012-08-03 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Rob; - Original Message - ... We cannot do maintainance for broken links here. Perhaps we should remind users to report broken links on the originating websites. Certainly we can fix this on our end.  In fact I just did:

Issues building Symphony

2012-08-03 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi; I tried configuring Symphony under FreeBSD and I can basically confirm that the instructions in the Wiki are wrong. The Wiki here http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/How_to_build_Symphony's_source_code mentions --disable-build-mozilla but that option doesn't work, you need

Re: Python

2012-08-02 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello guys; FWIW, the update to version 2.7.3 doesnt really bring a big difference wrt 2.6.1 but I dont think we will be able to update python further in a long while because there are extensions out there that depend on Python2. Adding Python3 compatibility is not difficult, I think, but an

Re: What to say in AOO 3.4.1 release announcement about the ports? (BSD, Solaris, OS/2)?

2012-08-01 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Kay; I did some basic update to the FreeBSD porting site sometime ago: http://www.openoffice.org/porting/freebsd/  The site doesn't seem linked from the top-level porting site though. I would prefer to spend my time on the code rather than on the release announcement, however feel free to

Re: What to say in AOO 3.4.1 release announcement about the ports? (BSD, Solaris, OS/2)?

2012-08-01 Thread Pedro Giffuni
. :) Pedro. From: drew jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com To: Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org Cc: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2012 11:24 AM Subject: Re: What to say in AOO 3.4.1 release announcement about

Re: trunk build fails, likely in python

2012-07-31 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Performing Pre-Build Event... Project : warning PRJ0018 : The following environment variables were not found: $(UPDMINOREXT) Kind regards Regina Pedro Giffuni schrieb: Committed as Revision 1367398 . Please test. Hopefully I learned from the error that Regina reported to cleanup better

Re: trunk build fails, likely in python

2012-07-30 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello Armin; This builds cleanly on FreeBSD/linux , and apparently at least Regina got it to build beyond python. That's pretty weird: python-2.7.3.patch comments out the sqlite3 project for MSVC (just like python-2.6.1.patch did before that). I don't have a Windows build so I am basically

Re: trunk build fails, likely in python

2012-07-30 Thread Pedro Giffuni
FWIW, One hint: googling around it looks like it's and issue when building a debug python. Pedro. From: Armin Le Grand armin.le.gr...@me.com To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 11:02 AM Subject: Re: trunk build fails, likely in

Re: trunk build fails, likely in python

2012-07-30 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Thank you. I will use this as an opportunity to do some further cleanup Pedro. From: Lin Yuan yuanlin@gmail.com To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 8:26 PM Subject: Re: trunk build fails, likely in python I can reproduce this

Re: trunk build fails, likely in python

2012-07-30 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Committed as Revision 1367398 . Please test. Hopefully I learned from the error that Regina reported to cleanup better the code. Pedro. From: Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Monday, July 30

Re: T-Shirt for the Apache OpenOffice Project

2012-07-29 Thread Pedro Giffuni
+1 T-shirts are a a cheap but effective way to motivate committers. - Original Message - ... Hi at all At the old OOo project, we have had T-Shirts. There was existing many different versions of OOo shirts. Moastly they was payed, designed and distributed by one of the OOo

Re: trunk build fails, likely in python

2012-07-27 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Thank you Regina! That crept in from a previous patchset and I didn't notice (plus the buildbots havent been building lately). Fixed in r1366577, by removing the extra cruft in python/makefile.mk Pedro. --- Ven 27/7/12, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de ha scritto: Da: Regina Henschel

Re: Bug 119384 : Python update coming after 3.4.1 release

2012-07-26 Thread Pedro Giffuni
issues. I will bringing it in either tonight or tomorrow as all our local changeshave been preserved and it won't interfere at all with the new release. Pedro. --- Mer 25/7/12, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org ha scritto: Da: Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org Oggetto: Bug 119384 : Python update coming after

Re: [RELEAASE][3.4.1]: propose the next build for 3.4.1 based on revision 1364583

2012-07-26 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello guys; Just wondering .. Can I chop the Python-2.6.1 src tarball now? I left it around to make sure I don't break anything but it shouldn't be needed in trunk anymore. Pedro. --- Gio 26/7/12, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com ha scritto: not with the Hunspell update but indirectly

Bug 119384 : Python update coming after 3.4.1 release

2012-07-25 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello guys; With some help from Hanya I have been slowly working on an update to our internal Python. The patch is rather big but it is necessary because: - The older 2.6.1 python is basically unsupported upstream. - Newer versions of python have better performance and solve security issues. -

Re: Bug 119384 : Python update coming after 3.4.1 release

2012-07-25 Thread Pedro Giffuni
: Python update coming after 3.4.1 release Hi Pedro, On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 03:20:44PM -0700, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hello guys; With some help from Hanya I have been slowly working on an update to our internal Python. The patch is rather big but it is necessary because: - The older 2.6.1

Re: Bug 119384 : Python update coming after 3.4.1 release

2012-07-25 Thread Pedro Giffuni
I solved the issue ... building now :). Thank you Ariel. I will see if I can split the patches according to the LF type to solve that issue :(. Pedro.

Re: Question from Twitter regarding OpenIndiana

2012-07-23 Thread Pedro Giffuni
My understanding is that the unofficial Solaris-i386 port works fine in OpenIndiana. It is built with Solaris C/C++ compiler not gcc. Pedro. From: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 2:13 PM Subject:

Re: Should quickstarter be enabled or disabled by default?

2012-07-21 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello; From what I understand.. AOO already starts much quicker than before. I vote for it being disabled by default and eventually removed. Pedro. From: Jürgen Lange j...@juergen-lange.de To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 1:53

Future of the BSD port (was Re: more 3.4.1 questions...supported OSes)

2012-07-20 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Just thought I'd mention this ... - Original Message - ... I am aware.. the idea would be to make it easier to detect when someone does a BSD-unfriendly change ;-). At the moment I would be glad for a buildbot that would detect any-OS-unfriendly change.   At this time I am not

Re: Coding guideline or common rules

2012-07-20 Thread Pedro Giffuni
FWIW; - Original Message - ... Hi, I just stumbled over a commit message for the new UOF filter. I think we should agree on a common guideline for our code and how we contribute changes and bring them in the code. SCM's manage the change sets and the information who made the

Re: more 3.4.1 questions...supported OSes

2012-07-19 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Rob; If something is in the release I would expect: 1) We have instructions for building it in the Building Guide 2) A user could download our source from SVN and build it according to the Building Guide Is this true of the BSD port?  If so we could include it in the release, I think.  If

Re: more 3.4.1 questions...supported OSes

2012-07-19 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Kay; - Original Message - ... Eventually we should use the buildbot, but I don't think we are ready for that yet. Pedro, using the buildbot is NOT a requirement for offical releases as far as I know. I am aware.. the idea would be to make it easier to detect when

Re: more 3.4.1 questions...supported OSes

2012-07-19 Thread Pedro Giffuni
- Original Message - ... Except for some minor patches, available here: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/editors/openoffice-3-devel/files/ the instructions for building on linux apply to FreeBSD too. The port is under control and very stable but we have

Re: more 3.4.1 questions...supported OSes

2012-07-18 Thread Pedro Giffuni
- Original Message - ... OK, more from me on the upcoming release. Will ee providing an official FreeBSD and OS/2 release for 3.4.1? We had discussed this a bit in the past, but I haven't seen anything recently.   We (actually Maho@) do regular builds but we have no plans to

Re: more 3.4.1 questions...supported OSes

2012-07-18 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Maho; - Original Message - ... Hi, I can provide release builds to Apache community. and how I should proceed? I guess you could add links here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds  Eventually we should use the buildbot, but I don't

Re: AOO-LibreOffice comparison?

2012-07-17 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Peter; I am going to be honest with you. Some people like to make asses of themselves inpublic by posting comparisons of software they develop against software that they have never tried (Hi Michael!). Most of us simply don't run LibreOffice and it would not be honest to say that we can be

Re: AOO-LibreOffice comparison?

2012-07-17 Thread Pedro Giffuni
... On 2012-07-17 9:01 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: ... Most of us simply don't run LibreOffice That seems unfortunate, why wouldn't AOO developers want to keep up to date with their main competition? Competition among free software is somewhat of a non-concept

Re: [Proposal] Remove OpenOffice Consultants list

2012-07-16 Thread Pedro Giffuni
+1 - Original Message - ... We have this legacy page:  http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultants.html Users get to it via three main paths: 1) Google search for openoffice consultants 2) The OpenOffice.org Consultants Directory link from our main support page; 

Re: Next steps for Symphony and AOO

2012-07-13 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Ven 13/7/12, Greg Madden ha scritto: ... I have been testing the Symphony deb packages. The 'properties' area is a nice feature, not compelling enough to re-base AOO on Symphony. AOO has progressed, new feaures that I use more than the 'properties area'. thanks for the feedback.

Re: Next steps for Symphony and AOO

2012-07-12 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Simon and everyone; --- Gio 12/7/12, Shenfeng Liu ha scritto: ... What hasn't been discussed in detail, and the key issue to me, is how much OpenOffice plus Symphony would differ from Symphony plus OpenOffice. Ideally, finally there will be little difference between OpenOffice

Re: Next steps for Symphony and AOO

2012-07-12 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Gio 12/7/12, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org ha scritto: ... I think we all agree two years is a lot of time. We can always start with option I and re-evaluate later on. I would propose the following: For 3.x Release (x4) we go option I merging only the things that

R: vcl field.cxx issue 150733 invalid float operation

2012-07-12 Thread Pedro Giffuni
FWIW; --- Gio 12/7/12, Yuri Dario ha scritto: Hi, I finally discovered the cause of a strange crash on some pc for the os2 port. It is due to an invalid float operation in MetricField class. It seems that some CPU are processing some invalid float value, which in turn generates the

Re: [RELEASE] Next Release - 3.4.2? 3.5? 4.0?

2012-07-11 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Andrea; --- Mer 11/7/12, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org ha scritto: ... Speaking with (too) little knowledge of the effort involved, I would keep a 3.4.x series with periodic bugfix releases, but use the trunk directly for a 4.0 release including the UI changes from Symphony and

Re: [RELEASE] Next Release - 3.4.2? 3.5? 4.0?

2012-07-11 Thread Pedro Giffuni
11/7/12, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org ha scritto: Hi Andrea; --- Mer 11/7/12, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org ha scritto: ... Speaking with (too) little knowledge of the effort involved, I would keep a 3.4.x series with periodic bugfix releases, but use the trunk directly

Re: [RELEASE] Next Release - 3.4.2? 3.5? 4.0?

2012-07-10 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Just my $0.02 --- Mar 10/7/12, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org ha scritto: But of course the open source ethos is release early; release often. So we need some way to balance that as well. I don't think that would play well for this project. It has certainly been bad for other projects

Translator roles and access (was Re: comments.apache.org)

2012-07-09 Thread Pedro Giffuni
The site is cool but on an unrelated comment ... --- Lun 9/7/12, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org ha scritto: ... This looks interesting/useful:   https://comments.apache.org/ Would this make sense for our core files under /ooo-site ? Quoting the site: If you are not a committer, you will

Re: Next steps for Symphony and AOO

2012-07-05 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello Simon; I know rebasing from Symphony option was never very popular here. Just for the record, I ran a small experiment in the Symphony SVN: I used svn merge to bring some changes from AOO. The process was rather easy and fun. I find the Symphony team did a good job updating a lot of stuff

Re: How to Submit the UOF v2.0 Source Code

2012-07-05 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Gio 5/7/12, hongyun.an hongyun...@cs2c.com.cn ha scritto: Dear everyone: About a week ago,the UOF v2.0 source code was merged to the Aoo3.4(svn version1354914) on my com.And it works well. However,because of my negligence,I have lost my password.These days I am applying for

Re: Java

2012-07-05 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello; --- Mer 4/7/12, suhail ansari suhaila...@gmail.com ha scritto: ... OpenOffice should be rewritten in JavaFX. OpenOffice is simply too big to propose rewriting it all to a different language. Plus, some modern platforms don't want Java at all :(. Pedro.

Re: Next steps for Symphony and AOO

2012-07-05 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Gio 5/7/12, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org ha scritto: ... Hi Pedro, On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: I know rebasing from Symphony option was never very popular here. Just for the record, I ran a small experiment in the Symphony

Re: Java

2012-07-05 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi; --- Gio 5/7/12, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com ha scritto: On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: Plus, some modern platforms don't want Java at all :(. Ther's an OpenJDK port for the Nokia N9. That's modern in my book. I guess that by modern you

Re: CWS swbookmarkfixes01 rebasing and licensing

2012-07-03 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Mar 3/7/12, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com ha scritto: ... Please can we have an update on that effort to get all the CWS made available then? It seems a perfectly reasonable request, one I and others have been making here since the inception of the project and one I am not able to go

Re: CWS swbookmarkfixes01 rebasing and licensing

2012-07-03 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Mar 3/7/12, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com ha scritto: ... On 3 Jul 2012, at 15:29, Pedro Giffuni wrote: --- Mar 3/7/12, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com ha scritto: ... Please can we have an update on that effort to get all the CWS made available then? It seems

Re: CWS swbookmarkfixes01 rebasing and licensing

2012-07-03 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Mar 3/7/12, Bjoern Michaelsen ha scritto: Hi Ross, Thanks for the constructive reply! On Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 03:58:54PM +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: If the CWS was included in the original SGA then it is available under the AL2. How can I check that? It was not integrated in

Re: RE: Open the UOF2.0 source codes

2012-06-28 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Gio 28/6/12, hongyun.an hongyun...@cs2c.com.cn ha scritto: ... Dear everyone: Thanks to all your help,so far I have finished merging the UOF v2.0 source code to the Aoo3.4(svn version1354914) both on the Windows and Linux. The source code is 33 files and about 2M,mainly in

Re: Re: Open the UOF2.0 source codes

2012-06-28 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Hongyun; --- Gio 28/6/12, hongyun.an hongyun...@cs2c.com.cn ha scritto: ... By the way,here is the file list: filter/prj/d.lst; filter/source/config/fragments/fcfg_calc.mk; filter/source/config/fragments/fcfg_impress.mk; filter/source/config/fragments/fcfg_writer.mk;

Re: Next steps for Symphony and AOO

2012-06-27 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Mer 27/6/12, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org ha scritto: ... Top posting as a comment on the entire post, and what it is and what it isn't. In a recent article [1], later quoted in in LinuxToday [2], a LibreOffice board member was interviewed and made some erroneous statements regarding

Re: Next steps for Symphony and AOO

2012-06-27 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Kevin; --- Mer 27/6/12, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com ha scritto: Hello All, Sorry for top post. Where are we at? Have we summarized the discussion? Have all expressed their views? How might we crystallized our position and move forward? There is indeed a big problem.

Re: Support of system libraries for apr,apr-util,serf,coinmp

2012-06-26 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Thank you Andre! This is a huge help for packagers. cheers, Pedro. ps. It almost makes me feel bad about Italy beating Germany yet again next Thursday (just kidding ... we'll see ;) ) --- Mar 26/6/12, Andre Fischer a...@a-w-f.de ha scritto: Hi all, I just checked in my changes for issue

Re: I may don't have much time spend on AOO

2012-06-26 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Will surely miss you Lily!! Best of lucks in your new role, I am sure you will do fine! Pedro. --- Mar 26/6/12, Xia Zhao lilyzh...@gmail.com ha scritto: Dear all, Due to my job role change, I have to spend much time on new position to face many challenges, so I may haven't much time on

Re: [RELEASE][3.4.1]: proposing Bug 118057 [filter] word 2003 XML (wordml) filters broken as release blocker

2012-06-25 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Lun 25/6/12, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com ha scritto: ... Most fixes are probably fixed on trunk first and merged after some discussion on the branch. But do we need a fix direction here? I think no because it really depends on the issue. Keep in mind that we have some

Re: [RELEASE][3.4.1]: proposing Bug 118057 [filter] word 2003 XML (wordml) filters broken as release blocker

2012-06-25 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Answering to myself, --- Lun 25/6/12, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org ha scritto: ... --- Lun 25/6/12, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com ha scritto: ... We should use svn merge to integrate a fix from one code base into another one. I am not a svn:mergeinfo expert but I

Re: [RELEASE][3.4.1]: proposing Bug 118057 [filter] word 2003 XML (wordml) filters broken as release blocker

2012-06-24 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Ugh ... --- Dom 24/6/12, De Bin Lei debin@gmail.com ha scritto: Da: De Bin Lei debin@gmail.com Oggetto: Re: [RELEASE][3.4.1]: proposing Bug 118057 [filter] word 2003 XML (wordml) filters broken as release blocker A: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Data: Domenica 24 giugno 2012, 20:14

Re: [RELEASE][3.4.1]: proposing Bug 118057 [filter] word 2003 XML (wordml) filters broken as release blocker

2012-06-24 Thread Pedro Giffuni
2012, 22:18 2012/6/25 Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org Ugh ... --- Dom 24/6/12, De Bin Lei debin@gmail.com ha scritto: Da: De Bin Lei debin@gmail.com Oggetto: Re: [RELEASE][3.4.1]: proposing Bug 118057 [filter] word 2003 XML (wordml) filters broken as release blocker

Re: Commit message summaries

2012-06-21 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi; --- Gio 21/6/12, Armin Le Grand armin.le.gr...@me.com ha scritto: ... For me in the order of preference I would use: - #number# (we have only one tracker, no need for flags like 'i') - #inumber# I would not like plain number + :, it is just too hard to recognize (also to grep for).

Re: Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process)

2012-06-18 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Lun 18/6/12, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org ha scritto: On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: ... I certainly think this makes sense. Discriminating the Category-B tarballs in the mirrors is easier and does not give the impression that it is ASF code or that we

Re: Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process)

2012-06-18 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Lun 18/6/12, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org ha scritto: Andre did a nice job but the category B tarballs are still in SVN so I dont consider the issue has been solved. Do you have any proposal for how that could addressed without breaking the released AOO 3.4.0 source

Re: Next steps for Symphony and AOO

2012-06-14 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Gio 14/6/12, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de ha scritto: ... And I think it's not just about emotions. If you take A as base and pick the enhancements of B you'll get an enhanced A. You won't probably remove features from A but take only some of B. So the decision between

R: Introduction of myself

2012-06-14 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Welcome!! --- Gio 14/6/12, Fan Zheng zheng.easy...@gmail.com ha scritto: Hi, Everybody: This is Zheng Fan speaking. Well, I am a brand new face in AOO community, with subscribing the ooo-dev mailing list just 2 weeks ago. I start working in IBM Symhony project in 2003 and being focus

Re: Next steps for Symphony and AOO

2012-06-13 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Mer 13/6/12, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com ha scritto: Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: Can we really not have the java components from Symphony? Why? Java is an asset rather than a problem. Oh, you misunderstood .. I *want* them. I even updated most of our Java

Re: Next steps for Symphony and AOO

2012-06-11 Thread Pedro Giffuni
On 06/11/12 20:08, Rob Weir wrote: As we wait [0] for the Symphony [1] code to be loaded into Subversion I think it would be good to start a discussion on next steps of how we can make best use of this contribution. Hopefully you've had time to review the list of features on the wiki [2],

Re: Next steps for Symphony and AOO

2012-06-11 Thread Pedro Giffuni
On 06/11/12 22:24, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Predictably, I prefer approach I on first principles: Never derail the train that's running. From that perspective, there's all of this: - All of the developers and many testers and others know how to build AOO 3.4.0 including people who are

Re: Open the UOF2.0 source codes

2012-06-10 Thread Pedro Giffuni
This is excellent news! Thank you Hongyun An, we are delighted to have this huge development for/from the Chinese community! Pedro. --- Dom 10/6/12, hongyun.an hongyun...@cs2c.com.cn ha scritto: Hi,everyone:   My name is Hongyun An and I am serving in

Re: Re: Open the UOF2.0 source codes

2012-06-10 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Lun 11/6/12, hongyun.an hongyun...@cs2c.com.cn ha scritto: ... Data: Lunedì 11 giugno 2012, 00:20 You are welcome.We hope it will be more compatible between the ODF and UOF2.0. Could anybody tell me how submit the code? -- I guess it depends on the size. One option would be

Re: Request for Apache License for CWSs

2012-06-08 Thread Pedro Giffuni
FWIW, --- Ven 8/6/12, Ariel Constenla-Haile ha scritto: ... If Marina was in the internship program, then she was not an Oracle employee, and the joint copyright assignment she signed does not take her rights over the code. AINAL, but I guess the situation is different with code written by

Re: Request for Apache License for CWSs

2012-06-08 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello Eike; --- Ven 8/6/12, Eike Rathke ha scritto: Hi, On Wednesday, 2012-05-23 13:54:31 +0200, Regina Henschel wrote: For AOO itself the CWS calcishmakkica is important. I'd like to bring this up on the radar again. The CWS contains important work implementing spreadsheet

Re: Request for Apache License for CWSs

2012-06-08 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Ariel; --- Ven 8/6/12, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org ha scritto: ... You are missing the context: - the Internship was   http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org_Internship - it was payed by Team OpenOffice.org on behalf of the Community Council   with

Re: Windows 8 Compatibility?

2012-06-07 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Gio 7/6/12, Tor Lillqvist t...@iki.fi ha scritto: ... Data: Giovedì 7 giugno 2012, 00:57 http://www.libreofficeaustralia.org/lt/community/blog/planet/20110328/porting-libreoffice-x64-windows No idea why that blog post of mine shows up on that site, and in a Lithuanian (lt) subdirectory

Re: svn commit: r1347062 - /incubator/ooo/trunk/main/instsetoo_native/util/makefile.mk

2012-06-07 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Andre; --- Gio 7/6/12, Andre Fischer a...@a-w-f.de ha scritto: Hi Pedro, I just saw that you have removed the -u flag from some copy commands in instsetoo_native/util/makefile.mk Can you explain why?  Is there a Windows-only problem with the copy command? Maybe this has to be done

Re: Correct SVN practices (was Re: Fix for bug 119161)

2012-06-06 Thread Pedro Giffuni
and what should be highlighted. On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 12:16 AM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: --- Lun 4/6/12, Jürgen Schmidt ha scritto: I guess there's going to be no way to convince people to use SVN correctly (hint: svn merge). :( I simply haven't thought

Re: Correct SVN practices (was Re: Fix for bug 119161)

2012-06-06 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Mer 6/6/12, Yong Lin Ma mayo...@apache.org ha scritto: Pedro, Could you update it with svn merge example you mentioned before? That was why we start this. Yes, it's rather easy (we don't need all the stuff the FreeBSD primer does) but I have been very busy lately. I don't have a WM

Re: Correct SVN practices (was Re: Fix for bug 119161)

2012-06-06 Thread Pedro Giffuni
On 06/06/12 21:20, Pedro Giffuni wrote: --- Mer 6/6/12, Yong Lin Mamayo...@apache.org ha scritto: Pedro, Could you update it with svn merge example you mentioned before? That was why we start this. Yes, it's rather easy (we don't need all the stuff the FreeBSD primer does) but I have been

Re: The new fetch_tarballs.sh

2012-06-05 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Mar 5/6/12, Andre Fischer a...@a-w-f.de ha scritto: .. Hi Pedro, On 04.06.2012 22:05, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Thank you Andre! I normally dislike perl but external_libs.lst surely looks nice now. Thanks. Well, I dislike Python and did not want to introduce yet another scripting

Re: Draft Blog post: OpenOffice.org is now Apache OpenOffice

2012-06-04 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Lun 4/6/12, Wolf Halton wolf.hal...@gmail.com ha scritto: ... The .org is in Apache is probably too clever, but it the rest of the article is fine. Wolf Hmm ... OK, maybe its better not to be too fancy. Lets leave it out then. Pedro.

Re: Fix for bug 119161

2012-06-04 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hmm... Unrelated to the bug fix ... --- Lun 4/6/12, Jürgen Schmidt ha scritto: ... patch reviewed, tested and applied to AOO34 branch and trunk I guess there's going to be no no way to convince people to use SVN correctly (hint: svn merge). :( I will merge some minor fixes so that people

Correct SVN practices (was Re: Fix for bug 119161)

2012-06-04 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Lun 4/6/12, Jürgen Schmidt ha scritto: I guess there's going to be no way to convince people to use SVN correctly (hint: svn merge). :( I simply haven't thought about it but I agree svn merge would have been better here. Especially when we want to merge the whole branch later to

Re: The new fetch_tarballs.sh

2012-06-04 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Thank you Andre! I normally dislike perl but external_libs.lst surely looks nice now. One wish for the future .. hmm.. if I use the external package (for example for python) it would be nice to disable downloading the corresponding tarballs too. BTW, should I also upload the Category A tarballs

Re: Correct SVN practices (was Re: Fix for bug 119161)

2012-06-04 Thread Pedro Giffuni
brief how do you hope the info will be organized and what should be highlighted. On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 12:16 AM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: --- Lun 4/6/12, Jürgen Schmidt ha scritto: I guess there's going to be no way to convince people to use SVN correctly (hint: svn

Re: [DISCUSS] Rules of voting for new committers and PPMC members

2012-06-03 Thread Pedro Giffuni
FWIW, The Foundation Roles are explained here: http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#roles Pretty much in line to what you are thinking. Pedro. --- Dom 3/6/12, Yong Lin Ma mayo...@gmail.com ha scritto: This was a discussion about rules of voting for new committer and PPMC

Re: Draft Blog post: OpenOffice.org is now Apache OpenOffice

2012-06-03 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Dom 3/6/12, RGB ES ha scritto: ... Maybe add both, old and new logo side by side? But I think the post is just perfect as it is now: short and to the point. I would add one line to wrap things up: The .org is now in Apache. Cheers, Pedro.

Re: Draft Blog post: OpenOffice.org is now Apache OpenOffice

2012-06-03 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Dom 3/6/12, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com ha scritto: Da: Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com Oggetto: Re: Draft Blog post: OpenOffice.org is now Apache OpenOffice A: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Data: Domenica 3 giugno 2012, 17:23 On 06/03/2012 12:50 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote

Re: Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process)

2012-06-03 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Sab 2/6/12, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com ha scritto: This situation doesn't seem to be diffusing itself, even tho I have tried to explain that the 3.4.0 release deps packaging does not comply with infra policy. Surely there is a middle ground here- that the missing release

Re: [DISCUSS] Rules of voting for new committers and PPMC members

2012-06-03 Thread Pedro Giffuni
... --- Dom 3/6/12, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net ha scritto: ... On 06/03/2012 11:48 AM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: FWIW, The Foundation Roles are explained here: http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#roles yes, this is standard ASF policy. My question

Re: Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process)

2012-06-02 Thread Pedro Giffuni
to this policy if they are included as part of the Apache product./ So even when Category B tarballs appear to be optional, in practice they are part of the product and we shouldn't be distributing source code. cheers, Pedro. On 06/01/12 20:08, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hi Ross

Re: Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process)

2012-06-02 Thread Pedro Giffuni
On 06/02/12 15:11, Juergen Schmidt wrote: ... Well I am a committer in the only big UNIX-like distribution that is carrying Apache OpenOffice nowadays. We would really like to use a source distribution through ASF mirrors but since the ASF doesn't provide one that works well we have been

Re: Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process)

2012-06-01 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Jürgen; On 06/01/12 03:16, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 5/31/12 6:26 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: ... First of all we should clarify what a source release is in this context. Does our source release contain Category-A tarballs? In other words, does this file: http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo

Re: Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process)

2012-06-01 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Ugh ... --- Ven 1/6/12, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org ha scritto: ... No release is buildable on its own.  You need an operating system, a compiler, often other pre-existing libraries on the system, other prerequisites that need to be installed by the developers. And computers need

Re: Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process)

2012-06-01 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Ven 1/6/12, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org ha scritto: ... And computers need electricity, which is not free and not available under a compatible license. I wish you could keep focused or at least do an effort to understand the issues so we can solve them. Be nice. Couldn't

Re: Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process)

2012-06-01 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Ross; I don't think it's my turn since my issues remain unresolved. However let me recap: 1) I think just having patches that can or cannot be applied to category-B licensed code is OK as long as it is not the default. 2) I don't think we are allowed to distribute source tarballs in

Re: Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process)

2012-06-01 Thread Pedro Giffuni
product./ So even when Category B tarballs appear to be optional, in practice they are part of the product and we shouldn't be distributing source code. cheers, Pedro. On 06/01/12 20:08, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hi Ross; I don't think it's my turn since my issues remain unresolved. However let me

Re: Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process)

2012-05-31 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Jürgen; Let me clarify some issues too ... On 05/31/12 10:39, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: ... let me explain some details here because I think they can help to understand. 1. we have dependencies to several external libraries including category-b for some features 2. we have checked in all this

Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process

2012-05-30 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Andre; --- Mer 30/5/12, Andre Fischer a...@a-w-f.de ha scritto: ... The idea that we have remaining issues with Category-B tarballs in the tree has been around since before the release, and one of our mentors (Ross I recall) did acknowledge my point of view. I did offer to step

Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process

2012-05-30 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Mer 30/5/12, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com ha scritto: On 2012-05-30, at 11:05 , Pedro Giffuni wrote: I will do this next week. I will probably use Apache extras and at a later time we could leave there the old GPL'd stuff too (unsupported of course). Pedro

Re: Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process)

2012-05-30 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Oh boy ... --- Mer 30/5/12, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org ha scritto: ... You can copy the category-b binaries someplace else, but you must not remove the ones that are already here.  Otherwise you will break not only the buildbots, but you will also break every one who has downloaded the

Re: Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process)

2012-05-30 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Mer 30/5/12, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org ha scritto: So *NOW* you are admitting that those tarballs are part of the Release?? Not at all.  But they are referenced from build files.  I hope this distinction is clear. No. If they are just referenced then we don't depend on

Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process

2012-05-29 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Drew; --- Mar 29/5/12, drew d...@baseanswers.com ha scritto: snip Yes the situation was specifically postponed as a graduation issue, I am not going through that discussion again. I made a concrete proposal with two alternatives: - They are moved to a friendly ftp/http site.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process

2012-05-29 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi; --- Mar 29/5/12, sebb seb...@gmail.com ha scritto: ... This is admittedly a stop gap solution to comply better with the Apache policies, the real fix would be to work collectively on replacing the code that can be replaced: Alternatively, it is possible to include cat B [1]

Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process

2012-05-28 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Rob; On 05/28/12 13:10, Rob Weir wrote: I'd like to start the graduation process, with the aim of being a TLP in time for the 3.4.1 release. The IPMC has a Guide to Successful Graduation page with a lot of detail and advice: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html The calendar

Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process

2012-05-28 Thread Pedro Giffuni
On 05/28/12 14:25, Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Pedro Giffunip...@apache.org wrote: Hi Rob; On 05/28/12 13:10, Rob Weir wrote: I'd like to start the graduation process, with the aim of being a TLP in time for the 3.4.1 release. The IPMC has a Guide to Successful

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