Re: [PROPOSAL] Setup of ooo-users-it and ooo-project-it mailing lists

2011-12-16 Thread Ross Gardler
Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity. On Dec 16, 2011 1:58 AM, Andrea Pescetti and...@pescetti.it wrote: On 11/12/2011 Andrea Pescetti wrote: For the time being, we would map the existing (12) Italian lists to - A support list, ... - A project list, ... If there

Re: [PROPOSAL] Setup of ooo-users-it and ooo-project-it mailing lists

2011-12-15 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 11/12/2011 Andrea Pescetti wrote: For the time being, we would map the existing (12) Italian lists to - A support list, ... - A project list, ... If there are no objections to the above proposal within 72 hours, I will invoke Lazy Consensus and will create a JIRA issue. In the end I see

Re: [PROPOSAL] Setup of ooo-users-it and ooo-project-it mailing lists

2011-12-13 Thread Shane Curcuru
How much traffic do the existing Italian lists get? My first suggestion would be to create only a single list for Italian discussions about AOO, instead of two lists. If the single list gets too crowded, then split it into two lists later - but only split it later if it's clear we need

Re: [PROPOSAL] Setup of ooo-users-it and ooo-project-it mailing lists

2011-12-13 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 13/12/2011 Shane Curcuru wrote: How much traffic do the existing Italian lists get? The ones that we would map to the users list got a bit more than 1000 messages in 2011 so far; the ones that we would map to the projects list got about 300, but OpenOffice.org is a mostly inactive

RE: [PROPOSAL] Setup of ooo-users-it and ooo-project-it mailing lists

2011-12-13 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I say do the pair. I see no reason not to trust your experience and judgment. That goes the same for any other NL group active enough to want an NL list on the podling and having active PPMC members to support them. I think enough is known to avoid a slippery slope into mailing-list chaos.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Setup of ooo-users-it and ooo-project-it mailing lists

2011-12-13 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: I say do the pair.  I see no reason not to trust your experience and judgment.  That goes the same for any other NL group active enough to want an NL list on the podling and having active PPMC members to

Re: [PROPOSAL] Setup of ooo-users-it and ooo-project-it mailing lists

2011-12-13 Thread Kazunari Hirano
Hi Rob and all, On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: We created a Japanese list a while ago, based on a similar degree of enthusiasm.  It has not received a single post yet. It has received a single post :)

Re: [PROPOSAL] Setup of ooo-users-it and ooo-project-it mailing lists

2011-12-13 Thread Dave Fisher
There is a problem with Japanese, apache MLs and spamassassin. I hope that won't be an issue with Italian. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone On Dec 13, 2011, at 8:48 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: I

Re: [PROPOSAL] Setup of ooo-users-it and ooo-project-it mailing lists

2011-12-13 Thread Joe Schaefer
Not true at this point.  The spamassasssin rules blocking Japanese- encoded subjects were removed about a month or so ago. - Original Message - From: Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Wednesday, December 14,

RE: [PROPOSAL] Setup of ooo-users-it and ooo-project-it mailing lists

2011-12-13 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
There's only one good way to find out. I suspect ISO 8859-1 will go through. UTF-8 too, if there are mostly ASCII characters and fewer code points in the 0x7F-0xFF range. Other NLs (Greek and Russian, for two) may have a more-difficult time. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dave

Re: [PROPOSAL] Setup of ooo-users-it and ooo-project-it mailing lists

2011-12-13 Thread Dave Fisher
Sorry about that. My bad. At least I wasn't rewriting policy on a false assumption. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 14, 2011, at 12:03 AM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: Not true at this point. The spamassasssin rules blocking Japanese- encoded subjects were removed about a month or

Re: [PROPOSAL] Setup of ooo-users-it and ooo-project-it mailing lists

2011-12-13 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 14/12/2011 Rob Weir wrote: Maybe things are simpler with a user list? I see that the legacy utenti list still gets a lot of traffic and has a lot of subscribers. The dev list, not so much. The (Italian) dev list is for mutual support between developers of macros (yes I know the name is

[PROPOSAL] Setup of ooo-users-it and ooo-project-it mailing lists

2011-12-11 Thread Andrea Pescetti
The Italian OpenOffice.org community relies on mailing lists (some with several hundreds subscribers) for user support, discussions and project coordination. While these are a legacy asset, I see it necessary that Apache OpenOffice provides a replacement for these lists as part of the

Re: [PROPOSAL] Setup of ooo-users-it and ooo-project-it mailing lists

2011-12-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@openoffice.org wrote: The Italian OpenOffice.org community relies on mailing lists (some with several hundreds subscribers) for user support, discussions and project coordination. While these are a legacy asset, I see it necessary that

Re: [PROPOSAL] Setup of ooo-users-it and ooo-project-it mailing lists

2011-12-11 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Il 11/12/2011 Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Andrea Pescetti ... wrote: - A support list, named ooo-users-it at incubator.apache.org - A project list, named ooo-project-it at incubator.apache.org I wonder if ooo-general-it.i.a.o might be possible, instead of

Re: [PROPOSAL] Setup of ooo-users-it and ooo-project-it mailing lists

2011-12-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@openoffice.org wrote: Il 11/12/2011 Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Andrea Pescetti ...  wrote: - A support list, named ooo-users-it at incubator.apache.org - A project list, named ooo-project-it at

Re: [PROPOSAL] Setup of ooo-users-it and ooo-project-it mailing lists

2011-12-11 Thread Dave Fisher
On Dec 11, 2011, at 7:47 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@openoffice.org wrote: Il 11/12/2011 Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Andrea Pescetti ... wrote: - A support list, named ooo-users-it at incubator.apache.org - A

Re: [PROPOSAL] Setup of ooo-users-it and ooo-project-it mailing lists

2011-12-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Dec 11, 2011, at 7:47 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@openoffice.org wrote: Il 11/12/2011 Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Andrea Pescetti ...  

Re: [PROPOSAL] Setup of ooo-users-it and ooo-project-it mailing lists

2011-12-11 Thread Pedro Giffuni
+1 to the creation of the italian lists. As for the number of them: I think we should create both now and review if there is sufficient traffic to maintain them both once we graduate.

RE: [PROPOSAL] Setup of ooo-users-it and ooo-project-it mailing lists

2011-12-11 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
D'accordo! -Original Message- From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@openoffice.org] Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 12:37 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Setup of ooo-users-it and ooo-project-it mailing lists [ ... ] Thanks for the explanations. We'll then