On 01/09/2011 Rob Weir wrote:
Good point. Maybe we can get a fixed footer to occur on the user list
emails, just 2 or 3 lines ...
1) How to unsubscribe to the list
2) Where to report bugs
3) Where the support forums are
4) File attachments not supported, so here's where to go to share a file
G
2011/8/31 Rob Weir :
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Manfred A. Reiter
> wrote:
>> 2011/8/31 Rob Weir :
>>> Something else to think about for the ooo-users list: file attachments.
>>>
>>
>> The experience with the german OOo-users list have shown
>> that attachments should be banned. Today it
thke [mailto:o...@erack.de]
> Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 08:11
> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [ooo-user] was RE: us...@openoffice.org [Was: Re: [Discussion]
> d...@openoffice.org]
>
> Hi Dennis,
>
> On Wednesday, 2011-08-31 18:29:02 -0700, Dennis
@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [ooo-user] was RE: us...@openoffice.org [Was: Re: [Discussion]
d...@openoffice.org]
Hi Dennis,
On Wednesday, 2011-08-31 18:29:02 -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> Hmm, for (2) I think you have to use orc...@msn.com for me, then.
> Most of my e-mail addresses (includi
Hi Dennis,
On Wednesday, 2011-08-31 18:29:02 -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> Hmm, for (2) I think you have to use orc...@msn.com for me, then.
> Most of my e-mail addresses (including orc...@apache.org) are not
> associated with an SMTP server, if I get your drift.
I think what counts is the
Hi Dennis,
On Wednesday, 2011-08-31 18:29:02 -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> Oh, so it wasn't actually an MS Office file, but a spoof with a .doc filename?
I only vaguely remember, but I think it was that way.
> That would definitely be hard to catch. I'm not sure what would cause
> it to e
JIRA issue entered:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3905
-Rob
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> Hey, over here (waving arm in the air)!
>
> Yes, I will moderate ooo-users.
>
> Do you need a minimum of three?
>
> It would also be good to have one additional
gt; Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 16:40
> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [ooo-user] was RE: us...@openoffice.org [Was: Re: [Discussion]
> d...@openoffice.org]
>
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 7:19 PM, drew wrote:
>> On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 18:41 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
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From: Eike Rathke [mailto:o...@erack.de]
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 16:01
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [ooo-user] was RE: us...@openoffice.org [Was: Re: [Discussion]
d...@openoffice.org]
Hi Dennis,
On Wednesday, 2011-08-31 14:17:38 -0700, Dennis E
there another?
- Dennis
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From: TJ Frazier [mailto:tjfraz...@cfl.rr.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 16:36
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [ooo-user] was RE: us...@openoffice.org [Was: Re: [Discussion]
d...@openoffice.org]
On 8/31/2011 19:01, Eike Rathke
+1
I like that fixed-footer idea a great deal. Please go for it.
- Dennis
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From: Rob Weir [mailto:apa...@robweir.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 16:48
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [ooo-user] was RE: us...@openoffice.org [Was: Re: [Discussion
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 16:40
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [ooo-user] was RE: us...@openoffice.org [Was: Re: [Discussion]
d...@openoffice.org]
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 7:19 PM, drew wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 18:41 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
>> On Aug 31, 2011, at 6:25 P
Hi Rob,
Thanks.
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
> I'd also like to to confirm email addresses before sending in the request.
>
>
> Dennis: orc...@apache.org
> Rob: robw...@apache.org
> Simon: si...@webmink.com
> Hirano-san: khir...@gmail.com
Mine is OK.
> There are two kinds o
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Jean Weber wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 08:35, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> Hmm, so the problem in the case of the list is that it is a broadcast
>> medium, and someone can be expected to not practice safe unzipping. Got it.
>>
>> OK, no attachments.
>>
>
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 7:19 PM, drew wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 18:41 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
>> On Aug 31, 2011, at 6:25 PM, drew wrote:
>>
>> > On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 08:05 +1000, Gavin McDonald wrote:
>> >> Sometime before this thread has deviated into too many different
>> >> directions i
On 8/31/2011 19:01, Eike Rathke wrote:
Hi Dennis,
On Wednesday, 2011-08-31 14:17:38 -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
[... reordering quotes and adding a quote level for better readability,
stripping rest ...]
From: TJ Frazier
Funny you should mention that. That very problem occurred on Bugz
On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 18:41 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Aug 31, 2011, at 6:25 PM, drew wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 08:05 +1000, Gavin McDonald wrote:
> >> Sometime before this thread has deviated into too many different
> >> directions it may
> >> be an idea if someone created an infra is
Hi Dennis,
On Wednesday, 2011-08-31 14:17:38 -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
[... reordering quotes and adding a quote level for better readability,
stripping rest ...]
> From: TJ Frazier
>> Funny you should mention that. That very problem occurred on Bugzilla,
>> with DOC attachments bearing
Right you are. Thanks.
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From: Jean Weber [mailto:jeanwe...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 15:44
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; dennis.hamil...@acm.org
Subject: Re: [ooo-user] was RE: us...@openoffice.org [Was: Re: [Discussion]
d...@openoffice.org]
On
mailto:orc...@apache.org]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 31 August 2011 7:34 AM
> > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Cc: a...@shanecurcuru.org
> > Subject: [ooo-user] was RE: us...@openoffice.org [Was: Re: [Discussion]
> > d...@openoffice.org]
> >
> > Hey,
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 08:35, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
>
> Hmm, so the problem in the case of the list is that it is a broadcast medium,
> and someone can be expected to not practice safe unzipping. Got it.
>
> OK, no attachments.
>
There is also the issue that even if the attachments are safe
: Wednesday, 31 August 2011 7:34 AM
>>> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>> Cc: a...@shanecurcuru.org
>>> Subject: [ooo-user] was RE: us...@openoffice.org [Was: Re: [Discussion]
>>> d...@openoffice.org]
>>>
>>> Hey, over here (waving arm in the
o: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [ooo-user] was RE: us...@openoffice.org [Was: Re: [Discussion]
d...@openoffice.org]
Hi Dennis,
On Wednesday, 2011-08-31 13:56:13 -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> When's the last time you heard of malicious code in a Microsoft Office
> file? No re
: Wednesday, 31 August 2011 7:34 AM
> > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Cc: a...@shanecurcuru.org
> > Subject: [ooo-user] was RE: us...@openoffice.org [Was: Re: [Discussion]
> > d...@openoffice.org]
> >
> > Hey, over here (waving arm in the air)!
> >
Hi Dennis,
On Wednesday, 2011-08-31 13:56:13 -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> Not being able to send attachments is apparently a constant for user
> lists. I'm not sure they work here on ooo-dev either.
At least plain text attachments get through, of various MIME types.
Eike
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PGP/Open
Hi Dennis,
On Wednesday, 2011-08-31 13:56:13 -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> When's the last time you heard of malicious code in a Microsoft Office
> file? No recent version will run macro code without warning and
> default disabling on load.
True, nowadays sending such may be pointless.
>
1 7:34 AM
> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: a...@shanecurcuru.org
> Subject: [ooo-user] was RE: us...@openoffice.org [Was: Re: [Discussion]
> d...@openoffice.org]
>
> Hey, over here (waving arm in the air)!
>
> Yes, I will moderate ooo-users.
>
> Do you need
On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 17:19 -0400, drew wrote:
> The average size of an attachment is: 48.7 KB [some of my old numbers
> have this at 36.4]
one correction - current avg size is 36 KB my old notes had 48.7.
Total current storage space used by attachments is 373 MB.
On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 16:21 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Manfred A. Reiter
> wrote:
> > 2011/8/31 Rob Weir :
> >> Something else to think about for the ooo-users list: file attachments.
> >>
> >
> > The experience with the german OOo-users list have shown
> > that att
Subject: Re: [ooo-user] was RE: us...@openoffice.org [Was: Re: [Discussion]
d...@openoffice.org]
On 8/31/2011 16:56, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> When's the last time you heard of malicious code in a Microsoft Office file?
> No recent version will run macro code without warning and defaul
On 8/31/2011 16:56, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
When's the last time you heard of malicious code in a Microsoft Office file?
No recent version will run macro code without warning and default disabling on
load. I would expect mail clients to also be circumspect about allowing direct
opening of
Hi, Manfred, *
On 8/31/2011 14:51, Manfred A. Reiter wrote:
2011/8/31 Rob Weir:
Something else to think about for the ooo-users list: file attachments.
The experience with the german OOo-users list have shown
that attachments should be banned. Today it is not an art piece
to save a file in n
] was RE: us...@openoffice.org [Was: Re: [Discussion]
d...@openoffice.org]
Something else to think about for the ooo-users list: file attachments.
The default policy appears to be forbid many attachments, silently
stripping them. This would cause chaos on a list used for end-user
support, since
e-mail in plaintext.
- Dennis
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From: Eike Rathke [mailto:o...@erack.de]
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 12:46
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [ooo-user] was RE: us...@openoffice.org [Was: Re: [Discussion]
d...@openoffice.org]
Hi Marcus,
On Wednesday,
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Manfred A. Reiter wrote:
> 2011/8/31 Rob Weir :
>> Something else to think about for the ooo-users list: file attachments.
>>
>
> The experience with the german OOo-users list have shown
> that attachments should be banned. Today it is not an art piece
> to save a
Am 08/31/2011 09:46 PM, schrieb Eike Rathke:
Hi Marcus,
On Wednesday, 2011-08-31 20:56:16 +0200, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
For ooo-support@ files like doc, xls, ppt, odt, ods, odp will be
most important.
I'd certainly not allow MS binary files as potential malicious code
carriers.
I know. Howeve
Hi Marcus,
On Wednesday, 2011-08-31 20:56:16 +0200, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> For ooo-support@ files like doc, xls, ppt, odt, ods, odp will be
> most important.
I'd certainly not allow MS binary files as potential malicious code
carriers.
> But also jpg, png, gif for screenshots could be
> importan
Hi Rob,
On Wednesday, 2011-08-31 14:10:45 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
> Something else to think about for the ooo-users list: file attachments.
>
> Any recommendations for what we should enable?
Allow all ODF of known extensions, e.g. .odt .ods .odp ...
For screenshots allow .png .jpg .jpeg
Eike
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> Am 08/31/2011 08:10 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>
>> Something else to think about for the ooo-users list: file attachments.
>>
>> The default policy appears to be forbid many attachments, silently
>> stripping them. This would cause chaos on a li
2011/8/30 Dennis E. Hamilton :
> Hey, over here (waving arm in the air)!
>
me too, (if we are talking about en germanophone ML)
but I think you are only talking about an english written ML
> Yes, I will moderate ooo-users.
>
> Do you need a minimum of three?
>
M.
Am 08/31/2011 08:10 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
Something else to think about for the ooo-users list: file attachments.
The default policy appears to be forbid many attachments, silently
stripping them. This would cause chaos on a list used for end-user
support, since they will naturally want to atta
2011/8/31 Rob Weir :
> Something else to think about for the ooo-users list: file attachments.
>
The experience with the german OOo-users list have shown
that attachments should be banned. Today it is not an art piece
to save a file in net and refer to a link to it.
If the user of de-users didn't
Something else to think about for the ooo-users list: file attachments.
The default policy appears to be forbid many attachments, silently
stripping them. This would cause chaos on a list used for end-user
support, since they will naturally want to attach sample documents,
screen shots, etc., tha
I'd be happy to help out (usually UK timezone).
S.
On 31 Aug 2011, at 15:32, Rob Weir wrote:
> Great. Thanks. Could we get a couple more moderator volunteers, say
> a couple from Europe? Note that a user list will require more
> moderator assistance than a dev list, with people having diffic
Great. Thanks. Could we get a couple more moderator volunteers, say
a couple from Europe? Note that a user list will require more
moderator assistance than a dev list, with people having difficulties
signing off, with need to remove people with badly behaving
out-of-the-office agents, etc.
-Ro
Hi Dennis and all,
I will take care of CJK users and questions.
:)
Thanks,
khirano
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 6:34 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> Hey, over here (waving arm in the air)!
>
> Yes, I will moderate ooo-users.
>
> Do you need a minimum of three?
>
> It would also be good to have one ad
I can cover the other coast.
-Rob
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> Hey, over here (waving arm in the air)!
>
> Yes, I will moderate ooo-users.
>
> Do you need a minimum of three?
>
> It would also be good to have one additional so we can handle the occasional
> CJK
Hey, over here (waving arm in the air)!
Yes, I will moderate ooo-users.
Do you need a minimum of three?
It would also be good to have one additional so we can handle the occasional
CJK and Eastern European message that comes in, maybe others too, depending on
what committers we have. (At leas
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