Re: About the Former Native Language projects

2012-01-02 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 13/12/2011 Ross Gardler wrote: On 13 December 2011 11:33, Kazunari Hirano wrote: This is great. Where is the pootle server? https://translate.apache.org/projects/OOo/ It's only just gone live so your guidance on how the AOO project should engage with it will be most appreciated. The

Re: Pootle (was Re: About the Former Native Language projects)

2011-12-20 Thread André Schnabel
Hi, Am 19.12.2011 13:38, schrieb Rob Weir: On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 12:39 AM, Dwayne Bailey dwa...@translate.org.za wrote: Small teams, small number of people wanting to make sure that OOo in whatever form is localised. The strings are almost 100% the same, at the moment, between AOO and

Re: Pootle (was Re: About the Former Native Language projects)

2011-12-20 Thread drew
On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 00:04 +0100, André Schnabel wrote: Hi, Am 19.12.2011 13:38, schrieb Rob Weir: On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 12:39 AM, Dwayne Bailey dwa...@translate.org.za wrote: Small teams, small number of people wanting to make sure that OOo in whatever form is localised. The

Re: Pootle (was Re: About the Former Native Language projects)

2011-12-20 Thread Andrew Rist
On 12/20/2011 3:15 PM, drew wrote: On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 00:04 +0100, André Schnabel wrote: Hi, Am 19.12.2011 13:38, schrieb Rob Weir: On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 12:39 AM, Dwayne Baileydwa...@translate.org.za wrote: Small teams, small number of people wanting to make sure that OOo in

Re: Pootle (was Re: About the Former Native Language projects)

2011-12-19 Thread Rob Weir
...@opendirective.com] Sent: Wednesday, 14 December 2011 12:39 AM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Pootle (was Re: About the Former Native Language projects) On 13 December 2011 14:27, Dwayne Baileydwa...@translate.org.za wrote: ...  From the look of it Apache might be using this server

Re: Pootle (was Re: About the Former Native Language projects)

2011-12-18 Thread Dwayne Bailey
@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Pootle (was Re: About the Former Native Language projects) On 13 December 2011 14:27, Dwayne Baileydwa...@translate.org.za wrote: ... From the look of it Apache might be using this server for more then just OOo which I love even more. The Subversion project has been using Pootle

Re: Pootle (was Re: About the Former Native Language projects)

2011-12-15 Thread Dave Fisher
: About the Former Native Language projects) On 13 December 2011 14:27, Dwayne Baileydwa...@translate.org.za wrote: ... From the look of it Apache might be using this server for more then just OOo which I love even more. The Subversion project has been using Pootle for some time

Re: About the Former Native Language projects

2011-12-14 Thread Claudio F Filho
Hi On 13-12-2011 21:09, Jomar Silva wrote: If you (and the people you are claiming to represent) are really No, Jomar, i do not represent anyone. following the lists, you should be aware that non-coding activities are being discussed here too in the past months (but our major focus was on

Re: About the Former Native Language projects

2011-12-14 Thread Jomar Silva
On 2011/11/14 10:54 Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com wrote: Who could have the same doubt, Jomar, but now, all was clarified. Excellent, and welcome aboard ! Jomar

Re: About the Former Native Language projects

2011-12-13 Thread Ross Gardler
Michael, I'm sorry we have failed to include you and other NL volunteers. It is fantastic that you have found your way here. Even better that you have de-lurked to share your story. Please be assured that your skills and contributions are needed and recognised here at Apache OpenOffice. That

Re: About the Former Native Language projects

2011-12-13 Thread Kazunari Hirano
Hi Ross, Michael and all, On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: Please tell us what you need in order to continue your work and where possible help us get it up and running. At this stage it is not clear what the best structure and process is, but you

[NL] Re: About the Former Native Language projects

2011-12-13 Thread Michael Bauer
Hi Ross, Thanks for the warm welcome :) 13/12/2011 08:39, sgrìobh Ross Gardler: Please tell us what you need in order to continue your work and where possible help us get it up and running. At this stage it is not clear what the best structure and process is, but you can help us find it. We

Re: About the Former Native Language projects

2011-12-13 Thread Ross Gardler
On 13 December 2011 11:33, Kazunari Hirano khir...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ross, Michael and all, On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: Please tell us what you need in order to continue your work and where possible help us get it up and running. At this

Re: About the Former Native Language projects

2011-12-13 Thread Kazunari Hirano
Hi Ross, On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: you patience, we need to ensure we create the best NL environment for everyone. Good to know.  I have a proposal. Excellent Thanks. I will make a proposal on NL and Localization. Just a moment please.

Re: About the Former Native Language projects

2011-12-13 Thread Roberto Salomon
Ross, There are more of us, former NL volunteers, lurking in the list. As Michael, I have been mostly reading and trying to get used to the Apache way while having to cope with an unusual amount of work on my day job. It is good to see Louis active once more. His experience with the NL groups in

Re: About the Former Native Language projects

2011-12-13 Thread Ross Gardler
On 13 December 2011 13:21, Roberto Salomon roberto.salo...@gmail.com wrote: Ross, There are more of us, former NL volunteers, lurking in the list. Great to see you de-lurking. I'm sure Michael will be pleased to hear he's not the only one. I'll bet there are a good few more. It is good to

Pootle (was Re: About the Former Native Language projects)

2011-12-13 Thread Dwayne Bailey
Hi, Sorry this will appear out-of-thread as I've only just subscribed. First, congratulations on setting up the Pootle server. As a South African OOo localiser and a Pootle developer this is great news. As Khirano said It takes quite a bit of skill to set up the pootle server for

Re: Pootle (was Re: About the Former Native Language projects)

2011-12-13 Thread Ross Gardler
On 13 December 2011 14:27, Dwayne Bailey dwa...@translate.org.za wrote: ... From the look of it Apache might be using this server for more then just OOo which I love even more. The Subversion project has been using Pootle for some time. They maintained their own instance in a VM. When AOO

Re: About the Former Native Language projects

2011-12-13 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Michael Bauer f...@akerbeltz.org wrote: Hi folks, I admit to mostly lurking but kinda feel compelled to chip in at this point. First off, I'm just a translator, I came to OO late in the day to resucitate the Scottish Gaelic localization which had fallen

Re: About the Former Native Language projects

2011-12-13 Thread Dave Fisher
Try this page. http://ooo-site.apache.org/projects/native-lang.html It has all the NLC project leads. It is linked to from ooo-site.apache.org. Kay elevated this. Gotta run. Regards, Dave On Dec 13, 2011, at 7:57 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Michael Bauer

RE: Pootle (was Re: About the Former Native Language projects)

2011-12-13 Thread Gavin McDonald
-Original Message- From: Ross Gardler [mailto:rgard...@opendirective.com] Sent: Wednesday, 14 December 2011 12:39 AM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Pootle (was Re: About the Former Native Language projects) On 13 December 2011 14:27, Dwayne Bailey dwa

Re: About the Former Native Language projects

2011-12-13 Thread Claudio F Filho
Hi On 12-12-2011 13:53, Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Claudio F Filho filh...@gmail.com wrote: I think that more that the license issue, we have a lot of people unhappy with the way that LibO is following, the same people that was part of NL and chose in go to LibO

Re: About the Former Native Language projects

2011-12-13 Thread Jomar Silva
On 2011/11/13 20:48 Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com wrote: This is a general vision of many people, and i can talk about the old brazilian volunteers, that are following this list. And more, after a campaign here, in Brazil, about the lack of code's participation, was widespread the idea of

Re: About the Former Native Language projects

2011-12-13 Thread tj
On 12/13/2011 17:47, Claudio F Filho wrote: Hi On 12-12-2011 13:53, Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Claudio F Filhofilh...@gmail.com wrote: I think that more that the license issue, we have a lot of people unhappy with the way that LibO is following, the same people that was

Re: About the Former Native Language projects

2011-12-13 Thread Pedro Giffuni
FWIW; --- Mar 13/12/11, tj t...@apache.org ha scritto: ... Hi, Claudio, This is a personal note. I never have contributed a line of code to the project, nor was I invited as an initial committer. But I work hard around here, on various things like the wiki. The other members voted me

Re: About the Former Native Language projects

2011-12-12 Thread Claudio F Filho
Hi On 10-12-2011 20:12, Louis R Suárez-Potts wrote: Regular readers of this list might recall discussions by Khirano, Rob and others about the fate of the Native Language projects in OOo. I'm not sure what the outcome was, and a quick browse of archives didn't really enlighten me, as it seems

Re: About the Former Native Language projects

2011-12-12 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Claudio F Filho filh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi On 10-12-2011 20:12, Louis R Suárez-Potts wrote: Regular readers of this list might recall discussions by Khirano, Rob and others about the fate of the Native Language projects in OOo. I'm not sure what the outcome

Re: About the Former Native Language projects

2011-12-12 Thread Michael Bauer
Hi folks, I admit to mostly lurking but kinda feel compelled to chip in at this point. First off, I'm just a translator, I came to OO late in the day to resucitate the Scottish Gaelic localization which had fallen format. I have no coding skills, at least none at the level needed to

Re: About the Former Native Language projects

2011-12-12 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Claudio, One reason I have tried to stay more or less muted (besides being fiendishly busy) is because this Apache effort is a true community effort. Apache is doing brilliantly ensuring that processes are kept open and within the bounds of its charter and that we all are informed of the why,

Re: About the Former Native Language projects

2011-12-12 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Michael I have pretty much ceased following the lists, as they seemed to stop following me. But I was wrong. I'll send a note to nlc, l10n and others Wednesday, informing them of the good news of their possible resurrection, even as Apaches :-) Cheers, Louis On 12 December 2011 18:36,

Re: About the Former Native Language projects

2011-12-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry for top posting... But yes, I was pretty much thinking along the lines Rob sketched out modulo TJ F. I can sound out these ideas. Political as well as resource issues come to mind, but I also see this as an

Re: About the Former Native Language projects

2011-12-11 Thread Dave Fisher
On Dec 11, 2011, at 9:28 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry for top posting... But yes, I was pretty much thinking along the lines Rob sketched out modulo TJ F. I can sound out these ideas. Political as well as resource

About the Former Native Language projects

2011-12-10 Thread Louis R Suárez-Potts
Regular readers of this list might recall discussions by Khirano, Rob and others about the fate of the Native Language projects in OOo. I'm not sure what the outcome was, and a quick browse of archives didn't really enlighten me, as it seems things were left hanging. I'd like to see if we can

Re: About the Former Native Language projects

2011-12-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Louis R Suárez-Potts lo...@apache.org wrote: Regular readers of this list might recall discussions by Khirano, Rob and others about the fate of the Native Language projects in OOo. I'm not sure what the outcome was, and a quick browse of archives didn't really

Re: About the Former Native Language projects

2011-12-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: On 11 December 2011 00:02, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Louis R Suárez-Potts lo...@apache.org wrote: ... Now to the present issue. I've written that I would rather focus

Re: About the Former Native Language projects

2011-12-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: On 11 December 2011 00:13, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: On 11 December 2011 00:02, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sat,

Re: About the Former Native Language projects

2011-12-10 Thread TJ Frazier
On 12/10/2011 19:44, Rob Weir wrote: On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: On 11 December 2011 00:13, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: On 11 December 2011 00:02, Rob

Re: About the Former Native Language projects

2011-12-10 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Sorry for top posting... But yes, I was pretty much thinking along the lines Rob sketched out modulo TJ F. I can sound out these ideas. Political as well as resource issues come to mind, but I also see this as an opportunity to do some macro collaboration with, say, other projects engaged. In