Re: Cancel Request for lazy Consensus. Was Re: [User Docs] What do we as a community want for user documentation or AOO)

On 09/23/2012 03:13 PM, Keith N. McKenna wrote: Based on much feedback it appears that my enthusiasm got a little wild and that re Reguest for lazy consensus was not the right approach. Well I'm not sure I would say this...but... Given that I hereby Rescind the Request or Lazy Consensus on

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] What do we as a community want for user documentation or AOO [ ... ] ... there is a complete Getting Started Guide or AOO v3.4. The chapters are complete and waiting for review. [ ... ]

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eith N. McKenna [mailto:keith.mcke...@comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 12:39 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [User Docs] What do we as a community want for user documentation or AOO [ ... ] ... there is a complete Getting Started Guide or AOO v3.4. The chapters are compl

Cancel Request for lazy Consensus. Was Re: [User Docs] What do we as a community want for user documentation or AOO)

Based on much feedback it appears that my enthusiasm got a little wild and that re Reguest for lazy consensus was not the right approach. Given that I hereby Rescind the Request or Lazy Consensus on the documentation and will proceed to JFDI. For any that are interested in helping with this eff

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m: Keith N. McKenna [mailto:keith.mcke...@comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 12:39 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [User Docs] What do we as a community want for user documentation or AOO [ ... ] ... there is a complete Getting Started Guide or AOO v3.4. The chapters are co

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nt: Sunday, September 23, 2012 12:39 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [User Docs] What do we as a community want for user documentation or AOO [ ... ] ... there is a complete Getting Started Guide or AOO v3.4. The chapters are complete and waiting for review. [ ... ]

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: [User Docs] What do we as a community want for user documentation or AOO [ ... ] As a process engineer I appreciate that; all overhead does is add to the cost with often minimal benefit. After a fairly decent night sleep and some further reflection I had though that it might be better to cancel

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orts in all this. Thank you Kay. It means a lot coming from someone with your stature and experience with the project. Regards Keith -Original Message- From: Keith N. McKenna [mailto:keith.mcke...@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 07:47 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache

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--Original Message- From: Keith N. McKenna [mailto:keith.mcke...@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 07:47 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [User Docs] What do we as a community want for user documentation or AOO Keith N. McKenna wrote: Greetings All; In order t

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effort as well. I'm aligned with that direction. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Keith N. McKenna [mailto:keith.mcke...@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 07:47 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [User Docs] What do we as a community want for user docum

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I truly appreciate your efforts in all this. -Original Message- From: Keith N. McKenna [mailto:keith.mcke...@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 07:47 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [User Docs] What do we as a community want for user documentation or AOO Kei

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dvertent > ailure to clearly communicate. > >> -----Original Message----- From: Keith N. McKenna >> [mailto:keith.mcke...@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 >> 07:47 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [User Docs] What >> do we as a community want

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that means avoidance of duplicate effort as well. I'm aligned with that direction. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Keith N. McKenna [mailto:keith.mcke...@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 07:47 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [User Docs] What do we as a com

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igned with that direction. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Keith N. McKenna [mailto:keith.mcke...@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 07:47 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [User Docs] What do we as a community want for user documentation or AOO Keith N

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@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [User Docs] What do we as a community want for user documentation or AOO [ ... ] In other words, that a non-existent effort in the project not be started to compete with the non-existent effort at ODFAuthors? IMHO this not the ideal use of lazy consensus. You

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it. I hope I have cleared up my intentions and again apologies or the inadvertent ailure to clearly communicate. -Original Message- From: Keith N. McKenna [mailto:keith.mcke...@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 07:47 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [User D

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On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Keith N. McKenna wrote: > Keith N. McKenna wrote: >> >> Greetings All; >> >> In order to stimulate some discussion on user documentation I have added >> the hollowing page to the User Documentation Plan on the Plannig Wiki: >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/d

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El 22/09/2012 16:47, Keith N. McKenna escribió: Keith N. McKenna wrote: Greetings All; In order to stimulate some discussion on user documentation I have added the hollowing page to the User Documentation Plan on the Plannig Wiki: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/User+Guides

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ay, September 22, 2012 07:47 > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: [User Docs] What do we as a community want for user > documentation or AOO > > Keith N. McKenna wrote: >> Greetings All; >> >> In order to stimulate some discussion on user doc

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Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: So I suppose what is being asked for is consensus that there will not, at this time, be any separate effort inside of the Apache OpenOffice project and the project will look to relying on the ODFAuthors site for emergence of updated User Guides. Exactly, this is how I

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On 9/22/12, Keith N. McKenna wrote: > Keith N. McKenna wrote: >> Greetings All; >> >> In order to stimulate some discussion on user documentation I have added >> the hollowing page to the User Documentation Plan on the Plannig Wiki: >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/User+Guid

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Docs] What do we as a community want for user documentation or AOO Keith N. McKenna wrote: > Greetings All; > > In order to stimulate some discussion on user documentation I have added > the hollowing page to the User Documentation Plan on the Plannig Wiki: > https://cwiki.apac

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Keith N. McKenna wrote: Greetings All; In order to stimulate some discussion on user documentation I have added the hollowing page to the User Documentation Plan on the Plannig Wiki: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/User+Guides+Revisted. It offers 3 scenarios or the creation

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2012/9/16 Keith N. McKenna > Greetings All; > > In order to stimulate some discussion on user documentation I have added > the hollowing page to the User Documentation Plan on the Plannig Wiki: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/User+Guides+Revisted. > It offers 3 scenarios or

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Rob; Rob Weir wrote: On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 9:18 PM, Keith N. McKenna wrote: Greetings All; In order to stimulate some discussion on user documentation I have added the hollowing page to the User Documentation Plan on the Plannig Wiki: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/User

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On 17/09/2012 Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-a says --- For the purposes of being a dependency to an Apache product, which licenses are considered to be similar in terms to the Apache License 2.0? Work

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You are failing to realize that when a user has only Java 6.35 or above installed on their system, they can't use wizards. When they click "Help" to figure out why, they can't use that either. Why? Because msvcr100.dll is not included in your packaged release, and help within Open Office relies on

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on ASF servers. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Keith N. McKenna [mailto:keith.mcke...@comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 19:03 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [User Docs] What do we as a community want for user documentation or AOO [ ... ] > Scenari

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On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 11:48:14PM +0200, Dave Barton wrote: > In order to avoid confusion I believe we should define "documentation" > in the form that I believe you are referring to. I see this as > documentation made available to end users, separate from, but in sync > with, that which forms par

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Dave Barton wrote: Original Message From: Keith N. McKenna To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 21:18:34 -0400 Greetings All; In order to stimulate some discussion on user documentation I have added the hollowing page to the User Documentation Plan on the

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TJ Frazier wrote: On 9/16/2012 14:04, Keith N. McKenna wrote: Kay Schenk wrote: On 09/15/2012 06:18 PM, Keith N. McKenna wrote: Hi, Keith, As a long-time volunteer with ODFA (formerly OOA), I can promise that we (AOO) can get documents from them. The cost of this option is (1) a legal re

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On 09/16/2012 03:24 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: TJ Frazier wrote: As a long-time volunteer with ODFA (formerly OOA), I can promise that we (AOO) can get documents from them. The cost of this option is (1) a legal review and approval of CC-BY v

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On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 9:18 PM, Keith N. McKenna wrote: > Greetings All; > > In order to stimulate some discussion on user documentation I have added the > hollowing page to the User Documentation Plan on the Plannig Wiki: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/User+Guides+Reviste

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On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > TJ Frazier wrote: >> >> As a long-time volunteer with ODFA (formerly OOA), I can promise that we >> (AOO) can get documents from them. The cost of this option is (1) a >> legal review and approval of CC-BY v3; (2) some storage (WG v3.2 is 1

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Original Message From: Keith N. McKenna To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 21:18:34 -0400 > Greetings All; > > In order to stimulate some discussion on user documentation I have added > the hollowing page to the User Documentation Plan on the Plannig Wiki:

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TJ Frazier wrote: As a long-time volunteer with ODFA (formerly OOA), I can promise that we (AOO) can get documents from them. The cost of this option is (1) a legal review and approval of CC-BY v3; (2) some storage (WG v3.2 is 15.5 MB, so call it 100 or 200 MB per version, probably as .odt and .p

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affixed to the material, it can always be referenced in a location on the ODFAUthors site. - Dennis -Original Message- From: TJ Frazier [mailto:tjfraz...@cfl.rr.com] Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 13:17 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [User Docs] What do we as a

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On 9/16/2012 14:04, Keith N. McKenna wrote: Kay Schenk wrote: On 09/15/2012 06:18 PM, Keith N. McKenna wrote: Greetings All; In order to stimulate some discussion on user documentation I have added the hollowing page to the User Documentation Plan on the Plannig Wiki: https://cwiki.apache.or

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RGB ES wrote: 2012/9/16 Keith N. McKenna As an aside, is there a developer snapshot available or 3.5 yet? I would like to start work on the Getting Started Guide on the ODFAuthors site and it makes sense to make edits based on 3.5 since that will be the most likely next release. Regards Keith

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2012/9/16 Keith N. McKenna > As an aside, is there a developer snapshot available or 3.5 yet? I would > like to start work on the Getting Started Guide on the ODFAuthors site and > it makes sense to make edits based on 3.5 since that will be the most > likely next release. > > Regards > Keith >

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Kay Schenk wrote: On 09/15/2012 06:18 PM, Keith N. McKenna wrote: Greetings All; In order to stimulate some discussion on user documentation I have added the hollowing page to the User Documentation Plan on the Plannig Wiki: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/User+Guides+Rev

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On 09/15/2012 06:18 PM, Keith N. McKenna wrote: Greetings All; In order to stimulate some discussion on user documentation I have added the hollowing page to the User Documentation Plan on the Plannig Wiki: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/User+Guides+Revisted. It offers 3

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RGB ES wrote: 2012/9/16 Keith N. McKenna Greetings All; In order to stimulate some discussion on user documentation I have added the hollowing page to the User Documentation Plan on the Plannig Wiki: https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/** User+Guides+Revisted

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2012/9/16 Keith N. McKenna > Greetings All; > > In order to stimulate some discussion on user documentation I have added > the hollowing page to the User Documentation Plan on the Plannig Wiki: > https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/** > User+Guides+Revisted