Re: Subversion history

2011-06-19 Thread Simon Phipps
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin < robertburrelldon...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Marcus (OOo) > wrote: > > > > > When Oracle will shutdown the main server for distributing release files, > > then also the mirrors will delete them (except GWDG wh

Re: Subversion history

2011-06-19 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: > When Oracle will shutdown the main server for distributing release files, > then also the mirrors will delete them (except GWDG which I've asked to host > the files longer). > > So, we have to rebuild a little mirror system if we want this

Re: Subversion history

2011-06-19 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 06/19/2011 10:45 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: For what it's worth, as many have noted, I'm sure, OOo uses for distribution a host—a vast host—of volunteer mirrors. Many include legacy releases already. And then we should just keep having this. As far as I know, htt

Re: Subversion history

2011-06-19 Thread Marcus (OOo)
OK, good to know. Am 06/19/2011 04:23 AM, schrieb Greg Stein: Go look at archive.org sometime. It seems just fine if they crawl and save the entire OOo site. Has nothing to do with licensing. Cheers, -g On Jun 18, 2011 9:56 PM, "Luke Kowalski" wrote: Simon, I am not sure that everyone woul

Re: Subversion history

2011-06-19 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: > For what it's worth, as many have noted, I'm sure, OOo uses for > distribution a host—a vast host—of volunteer mirrors. Many include > legacy releases already. And then we should just keep having this. As far as I know, http://archive.services.openoffice.org/ dynamicall

Re: Subversion history

2011-06-18 Thread Greg Stein
Go look at archive.org sometime. It seems just fine if they crawl and save the entire OOo site. Has nothing to do with licensing. Cheers, -g On Jun 18, 2011 9:56 PM, "Luke Kowalski" wrote: > Simon, > > I am not sure that everyone would be comfortable with you arranging to have the entire site scr

Re: Subversion history

2011-06-18 Thread Luke Kowalski
Simon, I am not sure that everyone would be comfortable with you arranging to have the entire site screen scraped and all the releases archived at a third party service / location. The site contains a mixture of content. This is not usnusual for open source project sites. For example, on MySql.

Re: Subversion history

2011-06-18 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
HI, On 2011-06-18, at 18:08 , Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > +1 > > -Original Message- > From: Simon Phipps [mailto:si...@webmink.com] > Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 13:46 > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: Subversion history > > On Fri, Jun

Re: Subversion history

2011-06-18 Thread Simon Phipps
On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 10:27 PM, Marcus Lange wrote: > Am 06/18/2011 10:45 PM, schrieb Simon Phipps: > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:55 AM, Greg Stein wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 19:00, Tor Lillqvist wrote: >>> But would ASF be able to distribute such binary releases (and the >>

RE: Subversion history

2011-06-18 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 -Original Message- From: Simon Phipps [mailto:si...@webmink.com] Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 13:46 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Subversion history On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:55 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 19:00, Tor Lillqvist wrote: >

Re: Subversion history

2011-06-18 Thread Marcus Lange
Am 06/18/2011 10:45 PM, schrieb Simon Phipps: On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:55 AM, Greg Stein wrote: On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 19:00, Tor Lillqvist wrote: But would ASF be able to distribute such binary releases (and the corresponding sources) that include non-Oracle LGPL bits? Probably not, bu

Re: Subversion history

2011-06-18 Thread Simon Phipps
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:55 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 19:00, Tor Lillqvist wrote: > > But would ASF be able to distribute such binary releases (and the > > corresponding sources) that include non-Oracle LGPL bits? > > Probably not, but in more recent years, we've been tal

Re: Subversion history (was: Wiki, SVN, other resources)

2011-06-17 Thread Kai Ahrens
Hi, Am 17.06.2011 14:55, schrieb Jens-Heiner Rechtien: > The OOO340 codeline contains the DEV300_m106 tag so OOO340 is definitely > branched of DEV300_m106, which is incidentally also the very last > milestone we did on DEV300. Using m103 does not make sense at all. But > if the grant includes all

Re: Subversion history (was: Wiki, SVN, other resources)

2011-06-17 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jun 17, 2011, at 1:12 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 08:55, Jens-Heiner Rechtien wrote: >> ... >> The OOO340 codeline contains the DEV300_m106 tag so OOO340 is definitely >> branched of DEV300_m106, which is incidentally also the very last milestone >> we did on DEV300. Using

Re: Subversion history (was: Wiki, SVN, other resources)

2011-06-17 Thread Jens-Heiner Rechtien
On 06/17/2011 10:12 PM, Greg Stein wrote: On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 08:55, Jens-Heiner Rechtien wrote: ... The OOO340 codeline contains the DEV300_m106 tag so OOO340 is definitely branched of DEV300_m106, which is incidentally also the very last milestone we did on DEV300. Using m103 does not mak

Re: Subversion history (was: Wiki, SVN, other resources)

2011-06-17 Thread Greg Stein
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 08:55, Jens-Heiner Rechtien wrote: >... > The OOO340 codeline contains the DEV300_m106 tag so OOO340 is definitely > branched of DEV300_m106, which is incidentally also the very last milestone > we did on DEV300. Using m103 does not make sense at all. But if the grant > inc

Re: Subversion history

2011-06-17 Thread Marcus Lange
Am 06/17/2011 01:40 PM, schrieb Marcus Lange: Am 06/17/2011 01:55 AM, schrieb Greg Stein: On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 19:00, Tor Lillqvist wrote: If you want the older binary releases, then make a proposal and a list. OK, I'll compile the list of archived release files. But would ASF be able to

Re: Subversion history (was: Wiki, SVN, other resources)

2011-06-17 Thread Jens-Heiner Rechtien
On 06/17/2011 10:42 AM, Mathias Bauer wrote: On 17.06.2011 10:01, Stephan Bergmann wrote: On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Mathias Bauerwrote: If we did it this way, my recommendation would be not to use the DEV300m103 milestone (that was used in the grant) but the most recent OOO340m1 milesto

Re: Subversion history

2011-06-17 Thread Marcus Lange
Am 06/17/2011 01:55 AM, schrieb Greg Stein: On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 19:00, Tor Lillqvist wrote: If you want the older binary releases, then make a proposal and a list. OK, I'll compile the list of archived release files. But would ASF be able to distribute such binary releases (and the corr

Re: Subversion history

2011-06-17 Thread Marcus Lange
Am 06/17/2011 12:49 PM, schrieb Reizinger Zoltán: 2011.06.17. 11:26 keltezéssel, Stephan Bergmann írta: On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Mathias Bauerwrote: On 17.06.2011 10:01, Stephan Bergmann wrote: The other way around, DEV300 (tip rev 6b24005a31b8) past DEV300_m103 (why was such an ol

Re: Subversion history

2011-06-17 Thread Reizinger Zoltán
2011.06.17. 11:26 keltezéssel, Stephan Bergmann írta: On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Mathias Bauerwrote: On 17.06.2011 10:01, Stephan Bergmann wrote: The other way around, DEV300 (tip rev 6b24005a31b8) past DEV300_m103 (why was such an old version chosen, anyway?) contains changesets not

Re: Subversion history (was: Wiki, SVN, other resources)

2011-06-17 Thread Stephan Bergmann
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Mathias Bauer wrote: > On 17.06.2011 10:01, Stephan Bergmann wrote: > >> The other way around, DEV300 (tip rev 6b24005a31b8) past DEV300_m103 (why > > was such an old version chosen, anyway?) contains changesets not in OOO340 >> (tip rev c904c1944462), but for new

Re: Subversion history (was: Wiki, SVN, other resources)

2011-06-17 Thread Mathias Bauer
On 17.06.2011 10:01, Stephan Bergmann wrote: On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Mathias Bauerwrote: If we did it this way, my recommendation would be not to use the DEV300m103 milestone (that was used in the grant) but the most recent OOO340m1 milestone. This would force me to check my list for a

Re: Subversion history (was: Wiki, SVN, other resources)

2011-06-17 Thread Greg Stein
This is awesome work, guys. I just got worried by a couple phrases in email (it happens!), but it looks like things are good. I understand the "negative" aspect, so I can see that can be easier. That works just fine, although the Software Grant needs positive (easy enough). Moving up to a more re

Re: Subversion history (was: Wiki, SVN, other resources)

2011-06-17 Thread Stephan Bergmann
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Mathias Bauer wrote: > If we did it this way, my recommendation would be not to use the DEV300m103 > milestone (that was used in the grant) but the most recent OOO340m1 > milestone. This would force me to check my list for any new files, but that > isn't a big prob

Re: Subversion history (was: Wiki, SVN, other resources)

2011-06-17 Thread Mathias Bauer
On 16.06.2011 21:39, Greg Stein wrote: On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 07:18, Mathias Bauer wrote: ... I now have a list of files that IMHO can't be part of the software grant. A list with all other files is worked on by Oracle. Umm. I don't think Oracle is working on any additional lists. We have t

Re: Subversion history

2011-06-16 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
While here, on a slightly different topic: Some old promotional demos of SUN's OpenOffice carried a nice set of fonts. Perhaps Oracle may make those available? And if so, I wonder about the license for those: ASL 2.0 would be fine but font licenses is something I doubt anyone, except SIL, has give

RE: Subversion history

2011-06-16 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 -Original Message- From: Greg Stein [mailto:gst...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 16:56 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Subversion history On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 19:00, Tor Lillqvist wrote: >>> If you want the older binary releases, then make a pro

Re: Subversion history

2011-06-16 Thread Greg Stein
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 19:00, Tor Lillqvist wrote: >>> If you want the older binary releases, then make a proposal and a list. >> >> OK, I'll compile the list of archived release files. > > But would ASF be able to distribute such binary releases (and the > corresponding sources) that include non

Re: Subversion history

2011-06-16 Thread Andrew Rist
Also, there will probably be content that is archived elsewhere. I think it is highly unlikely any of the previous OOo releases could be relicensed. That would probably preclude transferring them to ASF. This is not to say that this content should disappear, only that some types of content ca

Re: Subversion history

2011-06-16 Thread Tor Lillqvist
>> If you want the older binary releases, then make a proposal and a list. > > OK, I'll compile the list of archived release files. But would ASF be able to distribute such binary releases (and the corresponding sources) that include non-Oracle LGPL bits? (Assuming the Oracle-owned LGPL bits of O

Re: Subversion history

2011-06-16 Thread Marcus Lange
Am 06/17/2011 12:13 AM, schrieb Greg Stein: Hi Greg, Andrew (Oracle) is not making a list. We have to provide a list of stuff that we would like. arrh, yes, of course. ;-) If you want the older binary releases, then make a proposal and a list. OK, I'll compile the list of archived release

Re: Subversion history

2011-06-16 Thread Greg Stein
Andrew (Oracle) is not making a list. We have to provide a list of stuff that we would like. Oracle can only grant us permission for the materials they own; they may be willing to do a bit of archeology to determine that, but most of the burden is about us. If you want the older binary releases, t

Re: Subversion history

2011-06-16 Thread Marcus Lange
Hi Andrew, great to see that also the CWS data will be granted. Then also the very most recent work is saved. :-) Speaking of archives: What about the older binary releases you can get here: http://archive.services.openoffice.org/pub/openoffice-archive/ When the master server at Oracle is go

Re: Subversion history (was: Wiki, SVN, other resources)

2011-06-16 Thread Andrew Rist
On 6/16/2011 12:39 PM, Greg Stein wrote: On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 07:18, Mathias Bauer wrote: ... I now have a list of files that IMHO can't be part of the software grant. A list with all other files is worked on by Oracle. Umm. I don't think Oracle is working on any additional lists. We have

Re: Subversion history (was: Wiki, SVN, other resources)

2011-06-16 Thread Greg Stein
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 07:18, Mathias Bauer wrote: >... > I now have a list of files that IMHO can't be part of the software grant. A > list with all other files is worked on by Oracle. Umm. I don't think Oracle is working on any additional lists. We have to come up with the list of files that w

Re: Subversion history (was: Wiki, SVN, other resources)

2011-06-16 Thread Mathias Bauer
On 14.06.2011 19:32, Greg Stein wrote: On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 13:17, Mathias Bauer wrote: On 14.06.2011 19:04, Greg Stein wrote: ... Right now, I believe our biggest impediment to an import is the list of "which files?". We know there are gaps... we need to figure out which files are necessar

Re: Subversion history (was: Wiki, SVN, other resources)

2011-06-14 Thread Greg Stein
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 13:17, Mathias Bauer wrote: > On 14.06.2011 19:04, Greg Stein wrote: >... >> Right now, I believe our biggest impediment to an import is the list >> of "which files?". We know there are gaps... we need to figure out >> which files are necessary to fill those gaps, then requ

Re: Subversion history (was: Wiki, SVN, other resources)

2011-06-14 Thread Mathias Bauer
Hi Greg, On 14.06.2011 19:04, Greg Stein wrote: On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 12:34, Pedro Giffuni wrote: ... One doubt I have is whether the historic metadata from the previous OOo Hg/bugzilla will also be imported. I would guess in the SVN repository we want to start from scratch with the donated