Top posting is bad

2011-09-30 Thread Ross Gardler
At the risk of starting a flame-war I am going to state that top-posting is bad on publicly archived mailing lists. Can we please stop doing it? It is very difficult to understand what is going on in a mailing list, especially the archives, if it is common practice to top-post rather than reply

Re: Top posting is bad

2011-09-30 Thread floris v
Op 30-9-2011 10:46, Ross Gardler schreef: At the risk of starting a flame-war I am going to state that top-posting is bad on publicly archived mailing lists. Can we please stop doing it? It is very difficult to understand what is going on in a mailing list, especially the archives

Re: Top posting is bad

2011-09-30 Thread Ross Gardler
On 30 September 2011 10:45, floris v floris...@gmail.com wrote: Op 30-9-2011 10:46, Ross Gardler schreef: ... That was probably aimed at me. Not at all, it was aimed at what I observe is a generally increasing trend. Ross

RE: Top posting is bad

2011-09-30 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
[mailto:rgard...@opendirective.com] Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 01:47 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Top posting is bad At the risk of starting a flame-war I am going to state that top-posting is bad on publicly archived mailing lists. Can we please stop doing it? It is very difficult

Re: Top posting is bad

2011-09-30 Thread Norbert Thiebaud
be unpleasant for you Not just merely 'unpleasant' A: Because we read from top to bottom, left to right. Q: Why should I start my reply below the quoted text? A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing

Re: Top posting is bad

2011-09-30 Thread Ian Lynch
From: Ross Gardler [mailto:rgard...@opendirective.com] Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 01:47 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Top posting is bad At the risk of starting a flame-war I am going to state that top-posting is bad on publicly archived mailing lists. Can we please

Re: Top posting is bad

2011-09-30 Thread Ross Gardler
On 30 September 2011 13:18, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: bad may be unpleasant for you but how about looking at the interoperability challenges and not encouraging belief that there is a silver-bullet, one-size fits all fiat when the only thing that works is civility.

Re: Top posting is bad

2011-09-30 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Fri, 9/30/11, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: ... At the risk of starting a flame-war I am going to state that top-posting is bad on publicly archived mailing lists. Can we please stop doing it? This was discussed on the early postings in this list and a mentor said

Re: Top posting is bad

2011-09-30 Thread Dave Fisher
On Sep 30, 2011, at 8:32 AM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: --- On Fri, 9/30/11, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: ... At the risk of starting a flame-war I am going to state that top-posting is bad on publicly archived mailing lists. Can we please stop doing

RE: Top posting is bad

2011-09-30 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
30, 2011 05:39 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; dennis.hamil...@acm.org Subject: Re: Top posting is bad From: Ross Gardler [mailto:rgard...@opendirective.com] Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 01:47 To:�ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Top posting is bad

Re: Top posting is bad

2011-09-30 Thread Rob Weir
Not just merely 'unpleasant'    A: Because we read from top to bottom, left to right.    Q: Why should I start my reply below the quoted text?    A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.    Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?    A: The lost context.    Q: What

Re: Top posting is bad

2011-09-30 Thread Norbert Thiebaud
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: When the questions and answers are deep in the bottom and get deeper and deeper then I tend to tune out and move on. That is because 'bottom post' is not just adding stuff at the end... it is adding stuff 'after' the

Re: Top posting is bad

2011-09-30 Thread Pedro Giffuni
people normally read text.    Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?    A: The lost context.    Q: What makes top-posted replies harder to read than bottom-posted?    A: Yes.    Q: Should I trim down the quoted part of an email to which I'm replying? Norbert

Re: Top posting is bad

2011-09-30 Thread Ross Gardler
. -Original Message- From: Ross Gardler [mailto:rgard...@opendirective.com] Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 05:40 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; dennis.hamil...@acm.org Subject: Re: Top posting is bad On 30 September 2011 13:18, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: bad

Re: Top posting is bad

2011-09-30 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 17:17:05 +0100 Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: I have no more to say on the matter. People will continue to post in the way that they prefer (or must as a result of their chosen clients). Those who are undecided and unrestricted will hopefully make a more

RE: Top posting is bad

2011-09-30 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
to this conversation.) - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 08:52 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Top posting is bad On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Norbert Thiebaud nthieb...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep

Re: Top posting is bad

2011-09-30 Thread Ian Lynch
should I start my reply below the quoted text? A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: The lost context. Q: What makes top-posted replies harder to read than bottom-posted? A: Yes

Re: Top posting is bad

2011-09-30 Thread Simon Phipps
On 30 Sep 2011, at 17:27, Ian Lynch wrote: It's amazing how such small things can cause such controversy and angst. It's a sign of culture clash, in my view, rather than an issue in itself. There's probably a Godwin's-Law-type aphorism about it. S.

Re: Top posting is bad

2011-09-30 Thread Donald Whytock
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On 30 Sep 2011, at 17:27, Ian Lynch wrote: It's amazing how such small things can cause such controversy and angst. It's a sign of culture clash, in my view, rather than an issue in itself. There's probably a