On 06.07.2011 19:08, Greg Stein wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 16:04, Rob Weir wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Mathias Bauer wrote:
>>> Moin,
>>>
>>> On 05.07.2011 18:14, Mathias Bauer wrote:
>>...
>>> Do we really want to have code in the svn repo that will never be used?
>>> The alt
On 06.07.2011 19:12, Greg Stein wrote:
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 07:50, Michael Stahl wrote:
On 05.07.2011 11:16, Herbert Duerr wrote:
If the goal is to just merge the outstanding CWSs into trunk I'd suggest
to stay with hg, merge all good CWSs into trunk and start the apache-ooo
SVN repository
On 07.07.2011 00:41, Simon Phipps wrote:
>
> On 6 Jul 2011, at 23:19, Rob Weir wrote:
>
>> I think we're transitioning from a formally coordinated model led
>> by a corporation to a model that will have less formal
>> coordination structures. This is necessary to grow the project in
>> the abse
Andrew;
Thank you and Raphael for the update ...
I was just clueless about someone was doing the real work!
I have been an OOo user for a while but only now some of us
are starting to get the grasp of the *HUGE* contribution, not
only in software but in resources, that SUN/Oracle has made
during
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Simon Phipps wrote:
>
> On 6 Jul 2011, at 23:19, Rob Weir wrote:
>
>> I think we're transitioning from a formally coordinated model led by a
>> corporation to a model that will have less formal coordination
>> structures. This is necessary to grow the project in th
ks at hand.
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> Pedro.
>>
>> --- On Tue, 7/5/11, Joe Schaefer wrote:
>>
>>> From: Joe Schaefer
>>> Subject: Re: fetch-all-cws.sh (was: Building a single Hg repository)
>>> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
&g
hand.
cheers,
Pedro.
--- On Tue, 7/5/11, Joe Schaefer wrote:
From: Joe Schaefer
Subject: Re: fetch-all-cws.sh (was: Building a single Hg repository)
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2011, 9:58 AM
- Original Message
From: Mathias Bauer
To: oo
On 6 Jul 2011, at 23:19, Rob Weir wrote:
> I think we're transitioning from a formally coordinated model led by a
> corporation to a model that will have less formal coordination
> structures. This is necessary to grow the project in the absence of
> corporate control. But it will take some tim
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Mathias Bauer wrote:
> On 06.07.2011 18:58, Greg Stein wrote:
>
>> The development process that OOo used to use, as I understand it,
>> looks incredibly heavyweight and slow moving. At Apache, you commit
>> your changes. If you have a large-ish feature you're unsure
On 06.07.2011 18:58, Greg Stein wrote:
> The development process that OOo used to use, as I understand it,
> looks incredibly heavyweight and slow moving. At Apache, you commit
> your changes. If you have a large-ish feature you're unsure about,
> then discuss it on the mailing list, and (maybe) g
Mathias Bauer wrote:
> Do we really want to have code in the svn repo that will never be used?
> The alternative would be to add cws to svn only after review.
>
A somewhat related question would be, until when will the Oracle
offer to extend the source code grant last? Since work done by
Oracle de
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 07:50, Michael Stahl wrote:
> On 05.07.2011 11:16, Herbert Duerr wrote:
>...
>> merged. Speaking of merges in SVN we regularly had the problem that a
>> file was renamed in one CWS and changed in another CWS and the result
>> was that the change got lost. HG or GIT handle th
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 16:04, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Mathias Bauer wrote:
>> Moin,
>>
>> On 05.07.2011 18:14, Mathias Bauer wrote:
>...
>> Do we really want to have code in the svn repo that will never be used?
>> The alternative would be to add cws to svn only after re
On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 12:45, Michael Stahl wrote:
>...
>> Once we have a better picture of what is ready or not cws-list.txt needs
>> to be updated.
>
> i think the goal is to migrate all open CWSes, because perhaps there's still
> something useful in there, and we don't have time to investigate
On 05.07.2011 11:16, Herbert Duerr wrote:
On 05.07.2011, Rob Weir wrote:
Is the Hg ==> Git conversion easier/cleaner than the conversion to SVN?
Yes. Having the CWSs in SVN would only increase the size of the
repository considerably without providing benefits after they get
merged. Speaking of
--- On Tue, 7/5/11, Mathias Bauer wrote:
...
>
> I doubt that this will complicate things too much. It
> should be bearable.
>
> I'm interested to read the opinions of those who favored
> the "get everything into svn at once" approach.
>
All the history is valuable to avoid redoing efforts. T
Am 07/05/2011 10:04 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Mathias Bauer wrote:
On 05.07.2011 18:14, Mathias Bauer wrote:
It seems that my memory had fooled me: so if anybody can create an svn
dump file, I will try to recap what we have agreed to so far and have a
look into the
On 05.07.2011 22:04, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Mathias Bauer wrote:
>> Moin,
>>
>> On 05.07.2011 18:14, Mathias Bauer wrote:
>>
>>> It seems that my memory had fooled me: so if anybody can create an svn
>>> dump file, I will try to recap what we have agreed to so far and h
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Mathias Bauer wrote:
> Moin,
>
> On 05.07.2011 18:14, Mathias Bauer wrote:
>
>> It seems that my memory had fooled me: so if anybody can create an svn
>> dump file, I will try to recap what we have agreed to so far and have a
>> look into the conversion. In case any
Moin,
On 05.07.2011 18:14, Mathias Bauer wrote:
> It seems that my memory had fooled me: so if anybody can create an svn
> dump file, I will try to recap what we have agreed to so far and have a
> look into the conversion. In case anyone else is already at this, please
> let me know.
Having said
TH
>
>
> - Original Message
>> From: Pedro F. Giffuni
>> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Sent: Tue, July 5, 2011 11:53:14 AM
>> Subject: Re: fetch-all-cws.sh (was: Building a single Hg repository)
>>
>> I agree with Mathias ..
>>
>&
> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Sent: Tue, July 5, 2011 11:53:14 AM
> Subject: Re: fetch-all-cws.sh (was: Building a single Hg repository)
>
> I agree with Mathias ..
>
> We are not advancing simply because it's not clear who does what.
>
> - Greg made a scrip
cws.sh (was: Building a single Hg repository)
> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2011, 9:58 AM
>
>
> - Original Message
> > From: Mathias Bauer
> > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Sent: Tue, July 5, 2011 10:55:25 AM
> > Subject:
- Original Message
> From: Mathias Bauer
> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Sent: Tue, July 5, 2011 10:55:25 AM
> Subject: Re: fetch-all-cws.sh (was: Building a single Hg repository)
>
> On 01.07.2011 23:18, Greg Stein wrote:
>
> > Right. I think we j
On 01.07.2011 23:18, Greg Stein wrote:
> Right. I think we just bring it all over, and then sort it out in our
> repository.
May I ask who will be the one that "brings it all over"? I don't find
the reference, but from past reading I understood that this is nothing
that one of us "regular committe
On 04.07.2011 17:27, Michael Stahl wrote:
> On 04.07.2011 16:21, Mathias Bauer wrote:
>> On 01.07.2011 22:58, Michael Stahl wrote:
>>
>>> i think i wrote that all CWSes as HG repos take ~100 GB, but actually i
>>> now think i remembered wrong and the number was more like ~150 GB.
>>> (i did this o
On 05.07.2011, Rob Weir wrote:
Is the Hg ==> Git conversion easier/cleaner than the conversion to SVN?
Yes. Having the CWSs in SVN would only increase the size of the
repository considerably without providing benefits after they get
merged. Speaking of merges in SVN we regularly had the prob
Is the Hg ==> Git conversion easier/cleaner than the conversion to SVN?
I notice that Apache Infrastructure does support *read-only* Git repositories:
http://git.apache.org/
Would it be any simpler to move the enter Oracle-hosted project,
including all CWS's to a read-only Git, and then create a
On 04.07.2011 17:27, Michael Stahl wrote:
> what do you mean by "obsolete"?
> the "integrated"/"deleted" ones seem to be removed from the server, and
> i've commented out the "cancelled" ones.
there are two cws that we don't need anymore:
layoutdialogs3 and mh6bc
The first works with code that
On 04.07.2011 16:21, Mathias Bauer wrote:
On 01.07.2011 22:58, Michael Stahl wrote:
i think i wrote that all CWSes as HG repos take ~100 GB, but actually i
now think i remembered wrong and the number was more like ~150 GB.
(i did this originally in 2 steps, and i remembered only the second step
On 01.07.2011 22:58, Michael Stahl wrote:
> i think i wrote that all CWSes as HG repos take ~100 GB, but actually i
> now think i remembered wrong and the number was more like ~150 GB.
> (i did this originally in 2 steps, and i remembered only the second step...)
> (and if it weren't so late now
Am 01.07.2011 18:47, schrieb Herbert Duerr:
On 01.07.2011 13:42, Greg Stein wrote:
[...] Please look at
tools/dev/fetch-all-cws.sh. Each of these CWS repositories (on Mac OS)
are consuming 600 Mb *minimum*. I've fetched a dozen, and a couple are
over 2 Gb each, and another over 1 Gb. And this is
On 01.07.2011 18:47, Herbert Duerr wrote:
On 01.07.2011 13:42, Greg Stein wrote:
[...] Please look at
tools/dev/fetch-all-cws.sh. Each of these CWS repositories (on Mac OS)
are consuming 600 Mb *minimum*. I've fetched a dozen, and a couple are
over 2 Gb each, and another over 1 Gb. And this is w
On 02.07.2011 04:14, Greg Stein wrote:
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 17:18, Greg Stein wrote:
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 16:58, Michael Stahl wrote:
...
but actually i think that a lot of these 250 CWSes will not contain a
changeset that is not in the master already; a lot of developers create new
CWS a
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 17:18, Greg Stein wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 16:58, Michael Stahl wrote:
>...
>> but actually i think that a lot of these 250 CWSes will not contain a
>> changeset that is not in the master already; a lot of developers create new
>> CWS and then (have to) work on somet
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 16:58, Michael Stahl wrote:
> On 01.07.2011 13:42, Greg Stein wrote:
>...
>> This is the approach that I took. Please look at
>> tools/dev/fetch-all-cws.sh. Each of these CWS repositories (on Mac OS)
>> are consuming 600 Mb *minimum*. I've fetched a dozen, and a couple are
>
On 01.07.2011 13:42, Greg Stein wrote:
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 05:04, Michael Stahl wrote:
...
in principle the size of a CWS is on the same order as the master, because
it's just another HG repository.
but HG supports hardlinks between repositories (in newer versions even on
win32), so you ca
On 01.07.2011 13:42, Greg Stein wrote:
[...] Please look at
tools/dev/fetch-all-cws.sh. Each of these CWS repositories (on Mac OS)
are consuming 600 Mb *minimum*. I've fetched a dozen, and a couple are
over 2 Gb each, and another over 1 Gb. And this is with the clone/pull
technique.
Because of
Hi Greg, *,
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 05:04, Michael Stahl wrote:
>>...
>> in principle the size of a CWS is on the same order as the master, because
>> it's just another HG repository.
>>
>> but HG supports hardlinks between repositories (in new
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 05:04, Michael Stahl wrote:
>...
> in principle the size of a CWS is on the same order as the master, because
> it's just another HG repository.
>
> but HG supports hardlinks between repositories (in newer versions even on
> win32), so you can "hg clone" the master on the s
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