Re: Funny POSSCON anecdote

2012-04-03 Thread Danese Cooper
Important to realize that CEOs at McNealy's level mostly work at 10,000ft (except for Steve Jobs, and those stories are legendary). Sometime we can swap stories about helping Scooter (what we used to call him) get messaging right when talking to pretty much anybody with vested interest. He is an

Re: Unsubscription

2012-03-05 Thread Danese Cooper
Which brings up a question...why do we not configure ooo-dev to auto-generate the how to digest and how to unsub info on the 1st of every month (like 90% of the mailman-driven mail lists I'm on) My guess is we have a lot of subscribers who aren't developers and would prefer to opt out or to

Re: Passport Without A Visa: Open Source Software Licensing and Trademarks

2012-02-17 Thread Danese Cooper
Ahem. Excuse me, but Tiki Dare is the trademark lawyer who brought us the ridiculous naming policies around Java products when she was at Sun... (as well as the much-maligned OpenOfficeDotOrg). IMHO its quite possible to kill a brand with tedious correctness from a Trademark protection point of

Re: Where to hold an event

2012-02-13 Thread Danese Cooper
Probably somewhere in Europe, I'm guessing. On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 1:47 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.comwrote: If AOO were to hold an event for developers where should it be? Reply to this thread, or better still, submit your details to our people finder see

Re: 18 Jan 2012: SOPA and PIPA Protest Banner

2012-01-18 Thread Danese Cooper
While it might have been appropriate for ASF projects such as AOO to join today's SOPA/PIPA protest, I agree that it's too late to coordinate now. The Wikipedia community has been working towards their protest action for more than a week, including a town hall meeting and other

Re: Time for the ASF to send an Open Letter?

2011-11-15 Thread Danese Cooper
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.comwrote: On 15 November 2011 18:31, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: Why the AL is important for such a standard such as Open Office and ODF; Hey, we can even quote Stallman there. I'm not sure I'm +1 on an open

Re: Help Docs Proprietary Documentation

2011-11-10 Thread Danese Cooper
You'll want to ask Andrew Rist. D On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts lo...@apache.orgwrote: During the last year of OOo @ Oracle, a lot of rather good material was created to help/train users fresh (or forgetful) to OpenOffice.org and Oracle Open Office. This material as

Re: [DISCUSS]+[VOTE] Trademark and Branding

2011-11-09 Thread Danese Cooper
I must admit to wondering who we are in your statements, Donald. D On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: Hello; An important question. The vote is for choosing the product name, can the project name be different? To make this clear: I would think it

Re: We're on slashdot!

2011-10-14 Thread Danese Cooper
On Oct 14, 2011, at 1:04 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: I've read through the German materials at the site and, while Google Translator does stumble, the gist of it is pretty clear. This has

Re: Targeted Donations?

2011-09-12 Thread Danese Cooper
Hi Rob, I think the problem is that ASF doesn't have a policy of paying for development. Additionally, monies that do come in through the Sponsorships is *not* earmarked for a specific project. There are currently no mechanisms to deal with this. At ConCom we've seen the Meetup communities

Re: Request dev help: Info for required crypto export declaration

2011-09-01 Thread Danese Cooper
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Rob Weir r...@robweir.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: snip 1) Was something similar every done for OpenOffice.org? Most software companies are aware of this US export regulation and do

Re: Wikipedia's Rate this page

2011-07-26 Thread Danese Cooper
Rob, You may not know that I am the CTO of Wikimedia Foundation. Let me tell you that you want to first watch the experiment that is the new Article Feedback feature play out awhile on Wikipedia. We at WMF have no idea whether we're even measuring the right things with that tool yet. Danese

Re: OOo Trademark

2011-07-20 Thread Danese Cooper
Well, after a policy is decided on, I'd suggest we publish it along with a request for permission link that goes to a special list in this PPMC of people willing to moderate the OOo trademark policy. That's how OSI, Mozilla, Wikimedia and a few other projects I can think about do it. One nice to

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-12 Thread Danese Cooper
To recap...I think this might be a slightly different situation than Apache has previously experienced and it might be worth having the ASF Trademark watchdogs and ASF lawyers talk through the pros and cons of what's possible / advisable to do in this special case. That conversation could impact

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-11 Thread Danese Cooper
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.namewrote: Javier Sola wrote on Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 18:43:17 +0700: If Apache forced this without discussion it would be a bad start for the project. You're misportraying the facts; it's a preexisting Apache policy that

OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-08 Thread Danese Cooper
It isn't just a matter of who gets more hits on Google. In 2000, the OpenOffice name was not trademarkable worldwide (and probably still is not) without the .org. OTOH, the ASF doesn't normally seek to register all it's trademarks worldwide because of cost (in the US, first use of a mark is

Re: Reminder: TAC Assistance to ApacheCon NA 2011 closes July 8th

2011-07-03 Thread Danese Cooper
Sorry if my forward was missing content. I did not edit it. Must have been iPhone mail client fail. D On Jul 3, 2011, at 7:50 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Danese's FYI was missing a lot of content. Begin forwarded message: From: Gavin McDonald ga...@16degrees.com.au

Fwd: Reminder: TAC Assistance to ApacheCon NA 2011 closes July 8th

2011-07-02 Thread Danese Cooper
FYI Begin forwarded message: From: Gavin McDonald ga...@16degrees.com.au Date: July 2, 2011 5:16:14 PM PDT To: p...@apache.org Subject: Reminder: TAC Assistance to ApacheCon NA 2011 closes July 8th Reply-To: priv...@incubator.apache.org Reply-To: ga...@16degrees.com.au Hi All, Just