Re: Legal question about (re)licensing

2012-05-02 Thread Pedro Giffuni
On 05/01/12 23:58, Norbert Thiebaud wrote: On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Pedro Giffunip...@apache.org wrote: I think you are just trying to find some silly excuse to complain about code that *you* clearly didn't write or own. All the code either from version control or bugzilla was provided

Re: Legal question about (re)licensing

2012-05-01 Thread Norbert Thiebaud
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: We accept relatively small contributions without an ICLA.   But all contributions get reviewed, and all releases go through scans (what we call RAT == Release Audit Tool) and are voted on in a transparent, open process. RAT

Re: Legal question about (re)licensing

2012-05-01 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Norbert Thiebaud nthieb...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: We accept relatively small contributions without an ICLA.   But all contributions get reviewed, and all releases go through scans (what we call RAT

Re: Legal question about (re)licensing

2012-05-01 Thread Pedro Giffuni
On 05/01/12 12:20, Norbert Thiebaud wrote: ... For larger contributions, an ICLA (or an SGA) is in order. Ditto for smaller ones, if there are questions/concerns. Remember, any committer can veto a patch. So incoming patches without an ICLA need to meet a high bar to get into the code. My

Re: Legal question about (re)licensing

2012-05-01 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Michael, Michael ... On 05/01/12 11:38, Michael Meeks wrote: Hi Rob, So what exactly LO has is license soup as far as I am concerned. The situation is reasonably simple currently; yet it is of course made un-necessarily difficult by IBM Oracle's insistence on choosing yet

Re: Legal question about (re)licensing

2012-05-01 Thread Norbert Thiebaud
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: On 05/01/12 12:20, Norbert Thiebaud wrote: ... For larger contributions, an ICLA (or an SGA) is in order.  Ditto for smaller ones, if there are questions/concerns.  Remember, any committer can veto a patch.  So incoming

Re: Legal question about (re)licensing

2012-05-01 Thread Pedro Giffuni
On 05/01/12 21:42, Norbert Thiebaud wrote: On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: On 05/01/12 12:20, Norbert Thiebaud wrote: ... For larger contributions, an ICLA (or an SGA) is in order. Ditto for smaller ones, if there are questions/concerns. Remember, any committer can

Re: Legal question about (re)licensing

2012-05-01 Thread Norbert Thiebaud
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: I think you are just trying to find some silly excuse to complain about code that *you* clearly didn't write or own. All the code either from version control or bugzilla was provided by Oracle That is not what was said in

Legal question about (re)licensing

2012-04-29 Thread Claudio Filho
Hi I am not a lawer but i did a work of licenses some time ago[1], and i read many of main licenses, and a thing that i listened in all was that only the license holder can changes his work. So, my ask is: Oracle gave permission to TDF to add GPL and MPL for LibO?

Re: Legal question about (re)licensing

2012-04-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I am not a lawer but i did a work of licenses some time ago[1], and i read many of main licenses, and a thing that i listened in all was that only the license holder can changes his work. So, my ask is: Oracle gave

RE: Legal question about (re)licensing

2012-04-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Legal question about (re)licensing On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I am not a lawer but i did a work of licenses some time ago[1], and i read many of main licenses, and a thing that i listened in all was that only the license

Re: Legal question about (re)licensing

2012-04-29 Thread Rob Weir
] Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 08:12 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Legal question about (re)licensing On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I am not a lawer but i did a work of licenses some time ago[1], and i read many of main licenses

RE: Legal question about (re)licensing

2012-04-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Subject: Re: Legal question about (re)licensing On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: To be precise, the practice is for new contributions to be dual licensed as LGPL and MPL by the contributor. It remains the case that the main code body is under

Re: Legal question about (re)licensing

2012-04-29 Thread Claudio Filho
Hi 2012/4/29 Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org: I am not certain what this has to do with the original question. @Dennis Right! My question was more about one (of many) advantage (or fallacies) of LibO use, where they said that with their code you have more freedom, where in true,

RE: Legal question about (re)licensing

2012-04-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
is an independent consideration. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Claudio Filho [mailto:filh...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 14:31 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Legal question about (re)licensing Hi 2012/4/29 Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org: I

Re: Legal question about (re)licensing

2012-04-29 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Claudio; First of all the mandatory disclaimer that I am not a lawyer either :-). ... --- Dom 29/4/12, Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com ha scritto: ... Hi I am not a lawer but i did a work of licenses some time ago[1], and i read many of main licenses, and a thing that i listened in