Re: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal

2011-10-19 Thread Christoph Jopp
+1

Am 18.10.2011 18:27, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton:
 In reply to this message on ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org, vote for the 
 acceptance of the proposal for governance and operation of the OpenOffice.org 
 Forums within the Apache OpenOffice.org Podling.  The Proposal text is at the 
 October 12 version of wiki page 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Changes+integrate+the+forums+into+the+AOOo+project.
 
 The balloting will end midnight Friday, 2011-10-21T24:00Z, over 72 hours from 
 now.
 
 A majority of approvals over disapprovals constitutes acceptance of the 
 proposal.
 
 [  ] +1 approve
 [  ]  0 abstain
 [  ] -1 disapprove, for the following reasons:
 
 
 GUIDELINES
 
 ANYONE MAY VOTE.  BINDING VOTES for determining the outcome are those cast by 
 any of the 54 PPMC members (to be listed in a separate message).  When the 
 same individual casts more than one vote, the last-dated vote during the 
 ballot period is taken as the final vote from that individual.  Votes made 
 anywhere but as replies to the ooo-dev list with this subject are not counted.
 
 DO NOT DISCUSS THE VOTING ON THIS THREAD.  This thread is for the votes 
 themselves, including explanations for -1 votes.  Any other discussion 
 related 
 to this ballot, including discussions with anyone about their vote, should be 
 on a separate threat with subject beginning [VOTE][DISCUSS].
 
 
  - Dennis E. Hamilton
tools for document interoperability,  http://nfoWorks.org/
dennis.hamil...@acm.org  gsm: +1-206-779-9430  @orcmid
 
 



Re: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal

2011-10-19 Thread Christian Grobmeier
  -Original Message-
  From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]
  Sent: Wednesday, 19 October 2011 2:52 AM

 Don't lecture me on voting, Gavin.  Read the the Apache Voting
 Process [1], the section on Implications of Voting, with my
 emphasis:

 The tacit implications of voting should be spelt out in the
 community's guidelines. However, in no case may someone's vote be
 considered invalid if the implied commitment doesn't appear to be met;
 ***a vote is a formal expression of opinion, not of commitment***


The opinion which has been asked was:

[  ] +1 approve
[  ]  0 abstain
[  ] -1 disapprove

This is very precise. Nobody has asked if you want to put effort in it
or not. If you want to express opinions, objections etc there was/is a
discussion thread.

 I am expressing my opinion in this vote, and my opinion is not going
 to be limited to the three opinions that Dennis (or you) deigns to
 offer me.

This opinion was not asked for. It was asked if you approve the forum
joining or not.

 If it is arrogant to have an opinion beyond what you might have, then
 thank God for arrogance!

I think you should think a bit more on what Gav has said.

Cheers
Christian



 [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html

 -Rob






 -Rob

  Gav...
 
 
  -Rob
 
   GUIDELINES
  
   ANYONE MAY VOTE.  BINDING VOTES for determining the outcome are
  those
   cast by any of the 54 PPMC members (to be listed in a separate
   message).  When the same individual casts more than one vote, the
   last-dated vote during the ballot period is taken as the final vote
   from that individual.  Votes made anywhere but as replies to the
   ooo-dev
  list with this subject are not counted.
  
   DO NOT DISCUSS THE VOTING ON THIS THREAD.  This thread is for the
   votes themselves, including explanations for -1 votes.  Any other
   discussion related to this ballot, including discussions with
   anyone about their vote, should be on a separate threat with
   subject beginning
  [VOTE][DISCUSS].
  
  
    - Dennis E. Hamilton
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     dennis.hamil...@acm.org  gsm: +1-206-779-9430  @orcmid
  
  
  
 
 






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Re: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal

2011-10-19 Thread Christian Grobmeier
+1

Just a mentor, but I welcome the forum as valued addition to the
project with many nice people.  For sure it will be an outstanding
part of this project and even for the ASF.


On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote:
 In reply to this message on ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org, vote for the
 acceptance of the proposal for governance and operation of the OpenOffice.org
 Forums within the Apache OpenOffice.org Podling.  The Proposal text is at the
 October 12 version of wiki page
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Changes+integrate+the+forums+into+the+AOOo+project.

 The balloting will end midnight Friday, 2011-10-21T24:00Z, over 72 hours from
 now.

 A majority of approvals over disapprovals constitutes acceptance of the
 proposal.

 [  ] +1 approve
 [  ]  0 abstain
 [  ] -1 disapprove, for the following reasons:


 GUIDELINES

 ANYONE MAY VOTE.  BINDING VOTES for determining the outcome are those cast by
 any of the 54 PPMC members (to be listed in a separate message).  When the
 same individual casts more than one vote, the last-dated vote during the
 ballot period is taken as the final vote from that individual.  Votes made
 anywhere but as replies to the ooo-dev list with this subject are not counted.

 DO NOT DISCUSS THE VOTING ON THIS THREAD.  This thread is for the votes
 themselves, including explanations for -1 votes.  Any other discussion related
 to this ballot, including discussions with anyone about their vote, should be
 on a separate threat with subject beginning [VOTE][DISCUSS].


  - Dennis E. Hamilton
   tools for document interoperability,  http://nfoWorks.org/
   dennis.hamil...@acm.org  gsm: +1-206-779-9430  @orcmid






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Re: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal

2011-10-19 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Rob Weir wrote on Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 18:34:46 -0400:
 Don't lecture me on voting, Gavin.  Read the the Apache Voting
 Process [1], the section on Implications of Voting, with my
 emphasis:

You are being incredibly rude, and also incredibly out of line to teach
ASF Members (for the second time in a day) how voting works.


Re: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal

2011-10-19 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 4:20 AM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote:
 Rob Weir wrote on Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 18:34:46 -0400:
 Don't lecture me on voting, Gavin.  Read the the Apache Voting
 Process [1], the section on Implications of Voting, with my
 emphasis:

 You are being incredibly rude, and also incredibly out of line to teach
 ASF Members (for the second time in a day) how voting works.


Daniel, I'm not teaching you anything you don't know.  I'm just
reminding you of how voting actually works at Apache.

I'll draw your attention to when the OOo incubation proposal was sent
out, Sam sent out a ballot like this [1]:

Please cast your votes:

[  ] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation
[  ] +0 Indifferent to OpenOffice.org incubation
[  ] -1 Reject OpenOffice.org for incubation

This vote will close 72 hours from now.


However, the votes that were returned were [2]:

Binding:

 +1: 41
--: 1
-0: 1
-1: 5

Non-binding:
+1: 45
+0: 2
±0: 1
-0: 1
-1: 8 

I did not see any complaints at the time about how the votes were
cast, including of the -0 from an IPMC member.

Regards,

-Rob


[1] 
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201106.mbox/%3c4df24024.2040...@intertwingly.net%3E
[2] http://markmail.org/message/ge5kh7yygl77ehha


Re: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal

2011-10-19 Thread Andrew Rist

+1

On 10/18/2011 9:27 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

In reply to this message on ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org, vote for the
acceptance of the proposal for governance and operation of the OpenOffice.org
Forums within the Apache OpenOffice.org Podling.  The Proposal text is at the
October 12 version of wiki page
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Changes+integrate+the+forums+into+the+AOOo+project.

The balloting will end midnight Friday, 2011-10-21T24:00Z, over 72 hours from
now.

A majority of approvals over disapprovals constitutes acceptance of the
proposal.

[  ] +1 approve
[  ]  0 abstain
[  ] -1 disapprove, for the following reasons:




Re: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal

2011-10-19 Thread Andreas Säger

+1
Andreas Säger, aka Villeroy, moderator on the English forum.



Re: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal

2011-10-19 Thread imacat
On 2011/10/20 01:58, Andreas Säger said:
 +1
 Andreas Säger, aka Villeroy, moderator on the English forum.

+1

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Re: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal

2011-10-19 Thread Rory O'Farrell
+1

Rory O'Farrell RoryOF on OOo Forum

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Re: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal

2011-10-19 Thread Shane Curcuru

+1 (mentor / advisory vote)

- Shane

On 10/19/2011 2:36 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:

+1

Rory O'FarrellRoryOF on OOo Forum



Re: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal

2011-10-19 Thread TJ Frazier

+1 and best wishes! --/tj/

On 10/18/2011 12:27, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

In reply to this message on ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org, vote for the
acceptance of the proposal for governance and operation of the OpenOffice.org
Forums within the Apache OpenOffice.org Podling.  The Proposal text is at the
October 12 version of wiki page
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Changes+integrate+the+forums+into+the+AOOo+project.

The balloting will end midnight Friday, 2011-10-21T24:00Z, over 72 hours from
now.






Re: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal

2011-10-19 Thread Larry Gusaas

+1

On 2011-10-18 10:27 AM  Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

In reply to this message onooo-...@incubator.apache.org, vote for the
acceptance of the proposal for governance and operation of the OpenOffice.org
Forums within the Apache OpenOffice.org Podling.  The Proposal text is at the
October 12 version of wiki page
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Changes+integrate+the+forums+into+the+AOOo+project.

The balloting will end midnight Friday, 2011-10-21T24:00Z, over 72 hours from
now.



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Re: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal

2011-10-19 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 18/10/2011 Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Changes+integrate+the+forums+into+the+AOOo+project
[  ] +1 approve
[  ]  0 abstain
[  ] -1 disapprove


+1 (approve) from me (among other things, a global moderator in the 
Italian Forum and a user happy to know that this valuable support 
channel will now become integral part of the OpenOffice.org project).


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal

2011-10-19 Thread Ross Gardler
+1

(as a mentor I always vote with the majority or to highlight an
important issue if one is raised - I see no issues raised and so...
+1)

On 18 October 2011 17:27, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote:
 In reply to this message on ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org, vote for the
 acceptance of the proposal for governance and operation of the OpenOffice.org
 Forums within the Apache OpenOffice.org Podling.  The Proposal text is at the
 October 12 version of wiki page
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Changes+integrate+the+forums+into+the+AOOo+project.

 The balloting will end midnight Friday, 2011-10-21T24:00Z, over 72 hours from
 now.

 A majority of approvals over disapprovals constitutes acceptance of the
 proposal.

 [  ] +1 approve
 [  ]  0 abstain
 [  ] -1 disapprove, for the following reasons:


 GUIDELINES

 ANYONE MAY VOTE.  BINDING VOTES for determining the outcome are those cast by
 any of the 54 PPMC members (to be listed in a separate message).  When the
 same individual casts more than one vote, the last-dated vote during the
 ballot period is taken as the final vote from that individual.  Votes made
 anywhere but as replies to the ooo-dev list with this subject are not counted.

 DO NOT DISCUSS THE VOTING ON THIS THREAD.  This thread is for the votes
 themselves, including explanations for -1 votes.  Any other discussion related
 to this ballot, including discussions with anyone about their vote, should be
 on a separate threat with subject beginning [VOTE][DISCUSS].


  - Dennis E. Hamilton
   tools for document interoperability,  http://nfoWorks.org/
   dennis.hamil...@acm.org  gsm: +1-206-779-9430  @orcmid






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Re: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal

2011-10-19 Thread Marcus (OOo)

+1

Marcus



Am 10/18/2011 06:27 PM, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton:

[  ] +1 approve
[  ]  0 abstain
[  ] -1 disapprove, for the following reasons:


RE: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal

2011-10-18 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1

-Original Message-
From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org]
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 09:27
To: OOo-dev Apache Incubator
Subject: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal

In reply to this message on ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org, vote for the
acceptance of the proposal for governance and operation of the OpenOffice.org
Forums within the Apache OpenOffice.org Podling.  The Proposal text is at the
October 12 version of wiki page
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Changes+integrate+the+forums+into+the+AOOo+project.

The balloting will end midnight Friday, 2011-10-21T24:00Z, over 72 hours from
now.

A majority of approvals over disapprovals constitutes acceptance of the
proposal.

[X ] +1 approve
[  ]  0 abstain
[  ] -1 disapprove, for the following reasons:


[ ... ]



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Re: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal

2011-10-18 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote:
 In reply to this message on ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org, vote for the
 acceptance of the proposal for governance and operation of the OpenOffice.org
 Forums within the Apache OpenOffice.org Podling.  The Proposal text is at the
 October 12 version of wiki page
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Changes+integrate+the+forums+into+the+AOOo+project.

 The balloting will end midnight Friday, 2011-10-21T24:00Z, over 72 hours from
 now.

 A majority of approvals over disapprovals constitutes acceptance of the
 proposal.

 [  ] +1 approve
 [  ]  0 abstain
 [  ] -1 disapprove, for the following reasons:



+0, which does not means abstain but means I have no objections, but
do not volunteer to help with the migration.

-Rob

 GUIDELINES

 ANYONE MAY VOTE.  BINDING VOTES for determining the outcome are those cast by
 any of the 54 PPMC members (to be listed in a separate message).  When the
 same individual casts more than one vote, the last-dated vote during the
 ballot period is taken as the final vote from that individual.  Votes made
 anywhere but as replies to the ooo-dev list with this subject are not counted.

 DO NOT DISCUSS THE VOTING ON THIS THREAD.  This thread is for the votes
 themselves, including explanations for -1 votes.  Any other discussion related
 to this ballot, including discussions with anyone about their vote, should be
 on a separate threat with subject beginning [VOTE][DISCUSS].


  - Dennis E. Hamilton
   tools for document interoperability,  http://nfoWorks.org/
   dennis.hamil...@acm.org  gsm: +1-206-779-9430  @orcmid





Re: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal

2011-10-18 Thread Dave Fisher
+1 - proviso is separate votes on Committers on ooo-private.

Regards,
Dave

On Oct 18, 2011, at 9:27 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

 In reply to this message on ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org, vote for the 
 acceptance of the proposal for governance and operation of the OpenOffice.org 
 Forums within the Apache OpenOffice.org Podling.  The Proposal text is at the 
 October 12 version of wiki page 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Changes+integrate+the+forums+into+the+AOOo+project.
 
 The balloting will end midnight Friday, 2011-10-21T24:00Z, over 72 hours from 
 now.
 
 A majority of approvals over disapprovals constitutes acceptance of the 
 proposal.
 
 [  ] +1 approve
 [  ]  0 abstain
 [  ] -1 disapprove, for the following reasons:
 
 
 GUIDELINES
 
 ANYONE MAY VOTE.  BINDING VOTES for determining the outcome are those cast by 
 any of the 54 PPMC members (to be listed in a separate message).  When the 
 same individual casts more than one vote, the last-dated vote during the 
 ballot period is taken as the final vote from that individual.  Votes made 
 anywhere but as replies to the ooo-dev list with this subject are not counted.
 
 DO NOT DISCUSS THE VOTING ON THIS THREAD.  This thread is for the votes 
 themselves, including explanations for -1 votes.  Any other discussion 
 related 
 to this ballot, including discussions with anyone about their vote, should be 
 on a separate threat with subject beginning [VOTE][DISCUSS].
 
 
 - Dennis E. Hamilton
   tools for document interoperability,  http://nfoWorks.org/
   dennis.hamil...@acm.org  gsm: +1-206-779-9430  @orcmid
 
 



Re: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal

2011-10-18 Thread Reizinger Zoltán

+1
2011.10.18. 18:27 keltezéssel, Dennis E. Hamilton írta:

In reply to this message on ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org, vote for the
acceptance of the proposal for governance and operation of the OpenOffice.org
Forums within the Apache OpenOffice.org Podling.  The Proposal text is at the
October 12 version of wiki page
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Changes+integrate+the+forums+into+the+AOOo+project.

The balloting will end midnight Friday, 2011-10-21T24:00Z, over 72 hours from
now.

A majority of approvals over disapprovals constitutes acceptance of the
proposal.

[  ] +1 approve
[  ]  0 abstain
[  ] -1 disapprove, for the following reasons:


GUIDELINES

ANYONE MAY VOTE.  BINDING VOTES for determining the outcome are those cast by
any of the 54 PPMC members (to be listed in a separate message).  When the
same individual casts more than one vote, the last-dated vote during the
ballot period is taken as the final vote from that individual.  Votes made
anywhere but as replies to the ooo-dev list with this subject are not counted.

DO NOT DISCUSS THE VOTING ON THIS THREAD.  This thread is for the votes
themselves, including explanations for -1 votes.  Any other discussion related
to this ballot, including discussions with anyone about their vote, should be
on a separate threat with subject beginning [VOTE][DISCUSS].


  - Dennis E. Hamilton
tools for document interoperability,http://nfoWorks.org/
dennis.hamil...@acm.org  gsm: +1-206-779-9430  @orcmid






Re: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal

2011-10-18 Thread Jomar Silva
+1

Jomar

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote:
 In reply to this message on ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org, vote for the
 acceptance of the proposal for governance and operation of the OpenOffice.org
 Forums within the Apache OpenOffice.org Podling.  The Proposal text is at the
 October 12 version of wiki page
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Changes+integrate+the+forums+into+the+AOOo+project.

 The balloting will end midnight Friday, 2011-10-21T24:00Z, over 72 hours from
 now.

 A majority of approvals over disapprovals constitutes acceptance of the
 proposal.

 [  ] +1 approve
 [  ]  0 abstain
 [  ] -1 disapprove, for the following reasons:


 GUIDELINES

 ANYONE MAY VOTE.  BINDING VOTES for determining the outcome are those cast by
 any of the 54 PPMC members (to be listed in a separate message).  When the
 same individual casts more than one vote, the last-dated vote during the
 ballot period is taken as the final vote from that individual.  Votes made
 anywhere but as replies to the ooo-dev list with this subject are not counted.

 DO NOT DISCUSS THE VOTING ON THIS THREAD.  This thread is for the votes
 themselves, including explanations for -1 votes.  Any other discussion related
 to this ballot, including discussions with anyone about their vote, should be
 on a separate threat with subject beginning [VOTE][DISCUSS].


  - Dennis E. Hamilton
   tools for document interoperability,  http://nfoWorks.org/
   dennis.hamil...@acm.org  gsm: +1-206-779-9430  @orcmid





Re: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal

2011-10-18 Thread David McKay

+1

On 18/10/11 17:27, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

In reply to this message on ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org, vote for the
acceptance of the proposal for governance and operation of the OpenOffice.org
Forums within the Apache OpenOffice.org Podling.  The Proposal text is at the
October 12 version of wiki page
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Changes+integrate+the+forums+into+the+AOOo+project.

The balloting will end midnight Friday, 2011-10-21T24:00Z, over 72 hours from
now.

A majority of approvals over disapprovals constitutes acceptance of the
proposal.

[  ] +1 approve
[  ]  0 abstain
[  ] -1 disapprove, for the following reasons:


GUIDELINES

ANYONE MAY VOTE.  BINDING VOTES for determining the outcome are those cast by
any of the 54 PPMC members (to be listed in a separate message).  When the
same individual casts more than one vote, the last-dated vote during the
ballot period is taken as the final vote from that individual.  Votes made
anywhere but as replies to the ooo-dev list with this subject are not counted.

DO NOT DISCUSS THE VOTING ON THIS THREAD.  This thread is for the votes
themselves, including explanations for -1 votes.  Any other discussion related
to this ballot, including discussions with anyone about their vote, should be
on a separate threat with subject beginning [VOTE][DISCUSS].


  - Dennis E. Hamilton
tools for document interoperability,http://nfoWorks.org/
dennis.hamil...@acm.org  gsm: +1-206-779-9430  @orcmid




Re: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal

2011-10-18 Thread Ian Lynch
+1



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Re: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal

2011-10-18 Thread Donald Harbison
+1

- Don Harbison
  PPMC Member

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.orgwrote:

 In reply to this message on ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org, vote for the
 acceptance of the proposal for governance and operation of the
 OpenOffice.org
 Forums within the Apache OpenOffice.org Podling.  The Proposal text is at
 the
 October 12 version of wiki page
 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Changes+integrate+the+forums+into+the+AOOo+project
 .

 The balloting will end midnight Friday, 2011-10-21T24:00Z, over 72 hours
 from
 now.

 A majority of approvals over disapprovals constitutes acceptance of the
 proposal.

 [  ] +1 approve
 [  ]  0 abstain
 [  ] -1 disapprove, for the following reasons:


 GUIDELINES

 ANYONE MAY VOTE.  BINDING VOTES for determining the outcome are those cast
 by
 any of the 54 PPMC members (to be listed in a separate message).  When the
 same individual casts more than one vote, the last-dated vote during the
 ballot period is taken as the final vote from that individual.  Votes made
 anywhere but as replies to the ooo-dev list with this subject are not
 counted.

 DO NOT DISCUSS THE VOTING ON THIS THREAD.  This thread is for the votes
 themselves, including explanations for -1 votes.  Any other discussion
 related
 to this ballot, including discussions with anyone about their vote, should
 be
 on a separate threat with subject beginning [VOTE][DISCUSS].


  - Dennis E. Hamilton
   tools for document interoperability,  http://nfoWorks.org/
   dennis.hamil...@acm.org  gsm: +1-206-779-9430  @orcmid





Re: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal

2011-10-18 Thread Manfred A. Reiter
+1

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Re: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal

2011-10-18 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
+1

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.orgwrote:

 In reply to this message on ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org, vote for the
 acceptance of the proposal for governance and operation of the
 OpenOffice.org
 Forums within the Apache OpenOffice.org Podling.  The Proposal text is at
 the
 October 12 version of wiki page
 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Changes+integrate+the+forums+into+the+AOOo+project
 .

 The balloting will end midnight Friday, 2011-10-21T24:00Z, over 72 hours
 from
 now.

 A majority of approvals over disapprovals constitutes acceptance of the
 proposal.

 [  ] +1 approve
 [  ]  0 abstain
 [  ] -1 disapprove, for the following reasons:


 GUIDELINES

 ANYONE MAY VOTE.  BINDING VOTES for determining the outcome are those cast
 by
 any of the 54 PPMC members (to be listed in a separate message).  When the
 same individual casts more than one vote, the last-dated vote during the
 ballot period is taken as the final vote from that individual.  Votes made
 anywhere but as replies to the ooo-dev list with this subject are not
 counted.

 DO NOT DISCUSS THE VOTING ON THIS THREAD.  This thread is for the votes
 themselves, including explanations for -1 votes.  Any other discussion
 related
 to this ballot, including discussions with anyone about their vote, should
 be
 on a separate threat with subject beginning [VOTE][DISCUSS].


  - Dennis E. Hamilton
   tools for document interoperability,  http://nfoWorks.org/
   dennis.hamil...@acm.org  gsm: +1-206-779-9430  @orcmid





Re: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal

2011-10-18 Thread Dave Barton
+1

 Original Message  
From: Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org
To: OOo-dev Apache Incubator  ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 09:27:12 -0700

 In reply to this message on ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org, vote for the 
 acceptance of the proposal for governance and operation of the OpenOffice.org 
 Forums within the Apache OpenOffice.org Podling.  The Proposal text is at the 
 October 12 version of wiki page 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Changes+integrate+the+forums+into+the+AOOo+project.
 
 The balloting will end midnight Friday, 2011-10-21T24:00Z, over 72 hours from 
 now.
 
 A majority of approvals over disapprovals constitutes acceptance of the 
 proposal.
 
 [  ] +1 approve
 [  ]  0 abstain
 [  ] -1 disapprove, for the following reasons:
 
 
 GUIDELINES
 
 ANYONE MAY VOTE.  BINDING VOTES for determining the outcome are those cast by 
 any of the 54 PPMC members (to be listed in a separate message).  When the 
 same individual casts more than one vote, the last-dated vote during the 
 ballot period is taken as the final vote from that individual.  Votes made 
 anywhere but as replies to the ooo-dev list with this subject are not counted.
 
 DO NOT DISCUSS THE VOTING ON THIS THREAD.  This thread is for the votes 
 themselves, including explanations for -1 votes.  Any other discussion 
 related 
 to this ballot, including discussions with anyone about their vote, should be 
 on a separate threat with subject beginning [VOTE][DISCUSS].
 
 
  - Dennis E. Hamilton
tools for document interoperability,  http://nfoWorks.org/
dennis.hamil...@acm.org  gsm: +1-206-779-9430  @orcmid
 
 



Re: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal

2011-10-18 Thread RGB ES
+1


RE: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal

2011-10-18 Thread Gavin McDonald


 -Original Message-
 From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]
 Sent: Wednesday, 19 October 2011 2:52 AM
 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
 Subject: Re: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal
 
 On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org
 wrote:
  In reply to this message on ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org, vote for the
  acceptance of the proposal for governance and operation of the
  OpenOffice.org Forums within the Apache OpenOffice.org Podling.  The
  Proposal text is at the October 12 version of wiki page
 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Changes+integrat
 e+the+forums+into+the+AOOo+project.
 
  The balloting will end midnight Friday, 2011-10-21T24:00Z, over 72
  hours from now.
 
  A majority of approvals over disapprovals constitutes acceptance of
  the proposal.
 
  [  ] +1 approve
  [  ]  0 abstain
  [  ] -1 disapprove, for the following reasons:
 
 
 
 +0, which does not means abstain but means I have no objections, but
 do not volunteer to help with the migration.

It means abstain if the vote says so. Nobody is volunteering to do anything
when they vote, they are approving, or not, or no opinion. All those people
giving their +1 are not also offering to help with the migration, but saying 
with
a positive vote that it should happen. Stop being so obtuse please and go with
the flow a bit more to let things happen. Guidance is appreciated I'm sure, but
don't throttle.

Gav...

 
 -Rob
 
  GUIDELINES
 
  ANYONE MAY VOTE.  BINDING VOTES for determining the outcome are
 those
  cast by any of the 54 PPMC members (to be listed in a separate
  message).  When the same individual casts more than one vote, the
  last-dated vote during the ballot period is taken as the final vote
  from that individual.  Votes made anywhere but as replies to the ooo-dev
 list with this subject are not counted.
 
  DO NOT DISCUSS THE VOTING ON THIS THREAD.  This thread is for the
  votes themselves, including explanations for -1 votes.  Any other
  discussion related to this ballot, including discussions with anyone
  about their vote, should be on a separate threat with subject beginning
 [VOTE][DISCUSS].
 
 
   - Dennis E. Hamilton
tools for document interoperability,  http://nfoWorks.org/
dennis.hamil...@acm.org  gsm: +1-206-779-9430  @orcmid
 
 
 



Re: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal

2011-10-18 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Gavin McDonald ga...@16degrees.com.au wrote:


 -Original Message-
 From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]
 Sent: Wednesday, 19 October 2011 2:52 AM
 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
 Subject: Re: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal

 On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org
 wrote:
  In reply to this message on ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org, vote for the
  acceptance of the proposal for governance and operation of the
  OpenOffice.org Forums within the Apache OpenOffice.org Podling.  The
  Proposal text is at the October 12 version of wiki page
 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Changes+integrat
 e+the+forums+into+the+AOOo+project.
 
  The balloting will end midnight Friday, 2011-10-21T24:00Z, over 72
  hours from now.
 
  A majority of approvals over disapprovals constitutes acceptance of
  the proposal.
 
  [  ] +1 approve
  [  ]  0 abstain
  [  ] -1 disapprove, for the following reasons:
 
 

 +0, which does not means abstain but means I have no objections, but
 do not volunteer to help with the migration.

 It means abstain if the vote says so. Nobody is volunteering to do anything
 when they vote, they are approving, or not, or no opinion. All those people
 giving their +1 are not also offering to help with the migration, but saying 
 with
 a positive vote that it should happen. Stop being so obtuse please and go with
 the flow a bit more to let things happen. Guidance is appreciated I'm sure, 
 but
 don't throttle.


The attentive reader would note that I did not vote 0.  I voted
+0.  My vote means exactly what I say it means, nothing more,
nothing less.

-Rob

 Gav...


 -Rob

  GUIDELINES
 
  ANYONE MAY VOTE.  BINDING VOTES for determining the outcome are
 those
  cast by any of the 54 PPMC members (to be listed in a separate
  message).  When the same individual casts more than one vote, the
  last-dated vote during the ballot period is taken as the final vote
  from that individual.  Votes made anywhere but as replies to the ooo-dev
 list with this subject are not counted.
 
  DO NOT DISCUSS THE VOTING ON THIS THREAD.  This thread is for the
  votes themselves, including explanations for -1 votes.  Any other
  discussion related to this ballot, including discussions with anyone
  about their vote, should be on a separate threat with subject beginning
 [VOTE][DISCUSS].
 
 
   - Dennis E. Hamilton
    tools for document interoperability,  http://nfoWorks.org/
    dennis.hamil...@acm.org  gsm: +1-206-779-9430  @orcmid
 
 
 




Re: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal

2011-10-18 Thread Kazunari Hirano
Hi all,

 In reply to this message on ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org, vote for the
 acceptance of the proposal for governance and operation of the OpenOffice.org
 Forums within the Apache OpenOffice.org Podling.

+1

Just a note: I am an administrator and a global moderator of
OpenOffice.org Community Forum Japanese.
http://user.services.openoffice.org/ja/forum/
:)
Thanks,
khirano


RE: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal

2011-10-18 Thread Gavin McDonald


 -Original Message-
 From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]
 Sent: Wednesday, 19 October 2011 8:17 AM
 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
 Subject: Re: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal
 
 On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Gavin McDonald
 ga...@16degrees.com.au wrote:
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]
  Sent: Wednesday, 19 October 2011 2:52 AM
  To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
  Subject: Re: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal
 
  On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
  orc...@apache.org
  wrote:
   In reply to this message on ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org, vote for
   the acceptance of the proposal for governance and operation of the
   OpenOffice.org Forums within the Apache OpenOffice.org Podling.
   The Proposal text is at the October 12 version of wiki page
  
 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Changes+integra
  t
  e+the+forums+into+the+AOOo+project.
  
   The balloting will end midnight Friday, 2011-10-21T24:00Z, over 72
   hours from now.
  
   A majority of approvals over disapprovals constitutes acceptance of
   the proposal.
  
   [  ] +1 approve
   [  ]  0 abstain
   [  ] -1 disapprove, for the following reasons:
  
  
 
  +0, which does not means abstain but means I have no objections,
  +but
  do not volunteer to help with the migration.
 
  It means abstain if the vote says so. Nobody is volunteering to do
  anything when they vote, they are approving, or not, or no opinion.
  All those people giving their +1 are not also offering to help with
  the migration, but saying with a positive vote that it should happen.
  Stop being so obtuse please and go with the flow a bit more to let
  things happen. Guidance is appreciated I'm sure, but don't throttle.
 
 
 The attentive reader would note that I did not vote 0.  I voted +0.  My
 vote means exactly what I say it means, nothing more, nothing less.

I read exactly what you wrote, do not think I am not attentive.

Your arrogance around here lately is beyond belief, pack it in




 
 -Rob
 
  Gav...
 
 
  -Rob
 
   GUIDELINES
  
   ANYONE MAY VOTE.  BINDING VOTES for determining the outcome are
  those
   cast by any of the 54 PPMC members (to be listed in a separate
   message).  When the same individual casts more than one vote, the
   last-dated vote during the ballot period is taken as the final vote
   from that individual.  Votes made anywhere but as replies to the
   ooo-dev
  list with this subject are not counted.
  
   DO NOT DISCUSS THE VOTING ON THIS THREAD.  This thread is for the
   votes themselves, including explanations for -1 votes.  Any other
   discussion related to this ballot, including discussions with
   anyone about their vote, should be on a separate threat with
   subject beginning
  [VOTE][DISCUSS].
  
  
- Dennis E. Hamilton
 tools for document interoperability,  http://nfoWorks.org/
 dennis.hamil...@acm.org  gsm: +1-206-779-9430  @orcmid
  
  
  
 
 



Re: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal

2011-10-18 Thread Wolf Halton
+1

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Gavin McDonald ga...@16degrees.com.auwrote:



  -Original Message-
  From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]
  Sent: Wednesday, 19 October 2011 8:17 AM
  To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
  Subject: Re: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal
 
  On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Gavin McDonald
  ga...@16degrees.com.au wrote:
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]
   Sent: Wednesday, 19 October 2011 2:52 AM
   To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
   Subject: Re: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal
  
   On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
   orc...@apache.org
   wrote:
In reply to this message on ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org, vote for
the acceptance of the proposal for governance and operation of the
OpenOffice.org Forums within the Apache OpenOffice.org Podling.
The Proposal text is at the October 12 version of wiki page
   
  
  https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Changes+integra
   t
   e+the+forums+into+the+AOOo+project.
   
The balloting will end midnight Friday, 2011-10-21T24:00Z, over 72
hours from now.
   
A majority of approvals over disapprovals constitutes acceptance of
the proposal.
   
[  ] +1 approve
[  ]  0 abstain
[  ] -1 disapprove, for the following reasons:
   
   
  
   +0, which does not means abstain but means I have no objections,
   +but
   do not volunteer to help with the migration.
  
   It means abstain if the vote says so. Nobody is volunteering to do
   anything when they vote, they are approving, or not, or no opinion.
   All those people giving their +1 are not also offering to help with
   the migration, but saying with a positive vote that it should happen.
   Stop being so obtuse please and go with the flow a bit more to let
   things happen. Guidance is appreciated I'm sure, but don't throttle.
  
 
  The attentive reader would note that I did not vote 0.  I voted +0.
  My
  vote means exactly what I say it means, nothing more, nothing less.

 I read exactly what you wrote, do not think I am not attentive.

 Your arrogance around here lately is beyond belief, pack it in




 
  -Rob
 
   Gav...
  
  
   -Rob
  
GUIDELINES
   
ANYONE MAY VOTE.  BINDING VOTES for determining the outcome are
   those
cast by any of the 54 PPMC members (to be listed in a separate
message).  When the same individual casts more than one vote, the
last-dated vote during the ballot period is taken as the final vote
from that individual.  Votes made anywhere but as replies to the
ooo-dev
   list with this subject are not counted.
   
DO NOT DISCUSS THE VOTING ON THIS THREAD.  This thread is for the
votes themselves, including explanations for -1 votes.  Any other
discussion related to this ballot, including discussions with
anyone about their vote, should be on a separate threat with
subject beginning
   [VOTE][DISCUSS].
   
   
 - Dennis E. Hamilton
  tools for document interoperability,  http://nfoWorks.org/
  dennis.hamil...@acm.org  gsm: +1-206-779-9430  @orcmid
   
   
   
  
  




-- 
This Apt Has Super Cow Powers - http://sourcefreedom.com


Re: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal

2011-10-18 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Gavin McDonald ga...@16degrees.com.au wrote:


 -Original Message-
 From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]
 Sent: Wednesday, 19 October 2011 8:17 AM
 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
 Subject: Re: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal

 On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Gavin McDonald
 ga...@16degrees.com.au wrote:
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]
  Sent: Wednesday, 19 October 2011 2:52 AM
  To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
  Subject: Re: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal
 
  On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
  orc...@apache.org
  wrote:
   In reply to this message on ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org, vote for
   the acceptance of the proposal for governance and operation of the
   OpenOffice.org Forums within the Apache OpenOffice.org Podling.
   The Proposal text is at the October 12 version of wiki page
  
 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Changes+integra
  t
  e+the+forums+into+the+AOOo+project.
  
   The balloting will end midnight Friday, 2011-10-21T24:00Z, over 72
   hours from now.
  
   A majority of approvals over disapprovals constitutes acceptance of
   the proposal.
  
   [  ] +1 approve
   [  ]  0 abstain
   [  ] -1 disapprove, for the following reasons:
  
  
 
  +0, which does not means abstain but means I have no objections,
  +but
  do not volunteer to help with the migration.
 
  It means abstain if the vote says so. Nobody is volunteering to do
  anything when they vote, they are approving, or not, or no opinion.
  All those people giving their +1 are not also offering to help with
  the migration, but saying with a positive vote that it should happen.
  Stop being so obtuse please and go with the flow a bit more to let
  things happen. Guidance is appreciated I'm sure, but don't throttle.
 

 The attentive reader would note that I did not vote 0.  I voted +0.  My
 vote means exactly what I say it means, nothing more, nothing less.

 I read exactly what you wrote, do not think I am not attentive.

 Your arrogance around here lately is beyond belief, pack it in


Don't lecture me on voting, Gavin.  Read the the Apache Voting
Process [1], the section on Implications of Voting, with my
emphasis:

The tacit implications of voting should be spelt out in the
community's guidelines. However, in no case may someone's vote be
considered invalid if the implied commitment doesn't appear to be met;
***a vote is a formal expression of opinion, not of commitment***

I am expressing my opinion in this vote, and my opinion is not going
to be limited to the three opinions that Dennis (or you) deigns to
offer me.

If it is arrogant to have an opinion beyond what you might have, then
thank God for arrogance!

[1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html

-Rob






 -Rob

  Gav...
 
 
  -Rob
 
   GUIDELINES
  
   ANYONE MAY VOTE.  BINDING VOTES for determining the outcome are
  those
   cast by any of the 54 PPMC members (to be listed in a separate
   message).  When the same individual casts more than one vote, the
   last-dated vote during the ballot period is taken as the final vote
   from that individual.  Votes made anywhere but as replies to the
   ooo-dev
  list with this subject are not counted.
  
   DO NOT DISCUSS THE VOTING ON THIS THREAD.  This thread is for the
   votes themselves, including explanations for -1 votes.  Any other
   discussion related to this ballot, including discussions with
   anyone about their vote, should be on a separate threat with
   subject beginning
  [VOTE][DISCUSS].
  
  
    - Dennis E. Hamilton
     tools for document interoperability,  http://nfoWorks.org/
     dennis.hamil...@acm.org  gsm: +1-206-779-9430  @orcmid
  
  
  
 
 




Re: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal

2011-10-18 Thread Kay Schenk



On 10/18/2011 09:27 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

In reply to this message on ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org, vote for the
acceptance of the proposal for governance and operation of the OpenOffice.org
Forums within the Apache OpenOffice.org Podling.  The Proposal text is at the
October 12 version of wiki page
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Changes+integrate+the+forums+into+the+AOOo+project.

The balloting will end midnight Friday, 2011-10-21T24:00Z, over 72 hours from
now.

A majority of approvals over disapprovals constitutes acceptance of the
proposal.

[  ] +1 approve
[  ]  0 abstain
[  ] -1 disapprove, for the following reasons:



+1 from me
--rest snipped --

--

MzK

There is no such thing as coincidence.
   -- Leroy Jethro Gibbs, Rule #39


Re: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal

2011-10-18 Thread Carl Marcum

+1