Re: [Oorexx-devel] Suggestions, notes, and "yep, ooRexx V5 works"...

2023-01-03 Thread Bill Turner, WB4ALM 

On 1/3/23 23:11, taf wrote:
Do you mean modRexx for apache httpd?  If so, that's on me.  I know 
that the build doc is sadly lacking, I'll put some work into it this 
month.  May I draft you as guinea pig/tester?


On 2023-01-03 07:13, Bill Turner, WB4ALM wrote:



4) It would be nice if RexxMods could be brought "up to date" with 
better documentation.
    I would like to use it, but can't figure out how to install it 
correctly.



/s/ Bill Turner, wb4alm






TAF:  Yes, you may, and with pleasure!


There are a number of things that I would love to do with Rexx as a 
server "support" language, but have never been able to get modRexx 
installed under Ubuntu Linux  / Apache 2 where it would function 
correctly.  My environment is now Linux Mint 21, but since that is based 
upon UBUNTU I should be able to test both areas Have never done 
anything in the RedHat or Suse
versions of LINUX, and I believe that is where modRexx was originally 
developed.


I am retired, and have been for almost 20 years, but I still do some 
programming and web design for family and friends. My primary desktop 
and development environment is Linux based, but I also have several 
windows machines available for use. As a sideline, from 1983 to about 
2005, I used to  run an Advanced Computer Programming Explorer Post, but 
that closed down around  2005 when the Sponsoring Company (my previous 
Employer) sold the building where  the Explorer Post had a dedicated 
classroom / computer lab, with a functional set of Internet connected 
Servers.


Maybe my difficulties with modRexx was because my background is mostly 
mainframe based, and only learned enough (via Self Education) about 
Linux and Windows internals (and networking in general) to keep my 
environment(s) working.


One of the things that I have become painfully aware of over the years 
is that under Linux, each distribution tends to follow a slightly 
different set of rules for placement of modules, and standard "library" 
usage, so maybe that has been one of the primary "root causes" for my 
not being able to make modRexx to work correctly...



So yes, "TAF", I would be more than glad to assist...

/s/ Bill Turner, wb4alm


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Re: [Oorexx-devel] Suggestions, notes, and "yep, ooRexx V5 works"...

2023-01-03 Thread taf 
Do you mean modRexx for apache httpd?  If so, that's on me.  I know that 
the build doc is sadly lacking, I'll put some work into it this month.  
May I draft you as guinea pig/tester?


On 2023-01-03 07:13, Bill Turner, WB4ALM wrote:



4) It would be nice if RexxMods could be brought "up to date" with 
better documentation.
    I would like to use it, but can't figure out how to install it 
correctly.



/s/ Bill Turner, wb4alm


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taf



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Re: [Oorexx-devel] Suggestions, notes, and "yep, ooRexx V5 works"...

2023-01-03 Thread P.O. Jonsson 

> Am 03.01.2023 um 16:13 schrieb Bill Turner, WB4ALM :
> 
> 
> I would also like to suggest, that starting with Release 5, that a version be 
> pre-compiled for LINUX MINT 21. 
> I have found a number of folks who are not happy with some of the recent 
> versions of UBUNTU, and many of them are switching to LINUX MINT 17 or LINUX 
> MINT 21.

Hi Bill, we do have Linux Mint 20, is that not good for Linux Mint 21? This is 
what I read:

"the Linux Mint 20 was released in 2020 based on Ubuntu 20.04, Mint 21 came in 
2022 based on Ubuntu 22.04“.

The reason we have more versions of Ubuntu is accidental, we use Ubuntu 
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Re: [Oorexx-devel] Suggestions, notes, and "yep, ooRexx V5 works"...

2023-01-03 Thread CV Bruce 
Good points Bill. Many Linux(s) have more than one “current” version. One is the most current and the other is the LTS current version. Sometimes they are one and the same. What is our strategy for dealing with this environment?BruceSent by Magic!On Jan 3, 2023, at 7:13 AM, Bill Turner, WB4ALM  wrote:
  


  
  


I would also like to suggest, that starting with Release 5, that a
version be pre-compiled for LINUX MINT 21. 
I have found a number of folks who are not happy with some of the
recent versions of UBUNTU, and many of them are switching to LINUX
MINT 17 or LINUX MINT 21.

Even though the Linux Mint 21 operating system is based upon UBUNTU
22.04;  
UBUNTU 22.04 or 22.04.1  will not run reliably on my desktop, but
LINUX MINT 21 and 21.1 run without any problems.

I downloaded the UBUNTU version of ooRexx 5.0, and it runs on my
Linux Mint 21 system with no problems.


Other notes:


1) Sourceforge: If I tell folks to go to sourceforge.net and enter
"ooRexx" in the search box, what they get is confusing:
   ( apparently our description of "Open Oject Rexx" does not
include the "keyword "ooRexx" so we do not get listed.)
    
   if you do enter "ooRexx", a pop-box is displayed that says
===
   "open Source Projects"
        OS2-OORexx
        OORexxDoc
  and a second search box that says "search Open Source for
"ooRexx"...
===

 If they click on that second level suggested search, they get a new
popup windows that identifies "open Object Rexx" as the third or
fourth item making it appear that ooRexx is not a "primary" product.


So I have to tell folks to go to  
https://sourceforge.net/projects/oorexx/files/   
  and select "oorexx", 
      and then select "5.0.0" 
 and then based upon their operating system
    (for windows)        select "ooRexx-5.0.0-12583.windows.x86_64.exe"
      (for ubuntu 22.04)    select "ooRexx-5.0.0-12583.ubuntu2204.x86_64.deb"
      (for Linux Mint 21)    select "ooRexx-5.0.0-12583.ubuntu2204.x86_64.deb"  
or  "ooRexx-5.0.0-12583.linuxmint20.x86_64.deb"

Non-programmers find this very confusing and so they won't always
try it



2) The ooRexx SQLite package works under Version 5 with no problems.



3) Don't know about the RexxGTK, it does not seem to work on my
system.



4) It would be nice if RexxMods could be brought "up to date" with
better documentation.
    I would like to use it, but can't figure out how to install it
correctly.


/s/ Bill Turner, wb4alm



  

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[Oorexx-devel] Suggestions, notes, and "yep, ooRexx V5 works"...

2023-01-03 Thread Bill Turner, WB4ALM 



I would also like to suggest, that starting with Release 5, that a 
version be pre-compiled for LINUX MINT 21.
I have found a number of folks who are not happy with some of the recent 
versions of UBUNTU, and many of them are switching to LINUX MINT 17 or 
LINUX MINT 21.


Even though the Linux Mint 21 operating system is based upon UBUNTU 22.04;
UBUNTU 22.04 or 22.04.1  will not run reliably on my desktop, but LINUX 
MINT 21 and 21.1 run without any problems.


I downloaded the UBUNTU version of ooRexx 5.0, and it runs on my Linux 
Mint 21 system with no problems.



Other notes:


1) Sourceforge: If I tell folks to go to sourceforge.net and enter 
"ooRexx" in the search box, what they get is confusing:
   ( apparently our description of "Open Oject Rexx" does not include 
the "keyword "ooRexx" so we do not get listed.)


   if you do enter "ooRexx", a pop-box is displayed that says
===
   "open Source Projects"
        OS2-OORexx
        OORexxDoc
  and a second search box that says "search Open Source for "ooRexx"...
===

 If they click on that second level suggested search, they get a new 
popup windows that identifies "open Object Rexx" as the third or fourth 
item making it appear that ooRexx is not a "primary" product.



So I have to tell folks to go to 
https://sourceforge.net/projects/oorexx/files/

  and select "oorexx",
      and then select "5.0.0"
 and then based upon their operating system
    (for windows)        select 
"ooRexx-5.0.0-12583.windows.x86_64.exe 
"
    (for ubuntu 22.04)    select 
"ooRexx-5.0.0-12583.ubuntu2204.x86_64.deb 
"
    (for Linux Mint 21)    select 
"ooRexx-5.0.0-12583.ubuntu2204.x86_64.deb 
" 
or  "ooRexx-5.0.0-12583.linuxmint20.x86_64.deb 
"


Non-programmers find this very confusing and so they won't always try it



2) The ooRexx SQLite package works under Version 5 with no problems.



3) Don't know about the RexxGTK, it does not seem to work on my system.



4) It would be nice if RexxMods could be brought "up to date" with 
better documentation.
    I would like to use it, but can't figure out how to install it 
correctly.



/s/ Bill Turner, wb4alm


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