Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Help for a tiny library?

2015-01-18 Thread Yunus
Dear Ben, May test OpenBiblio interface. Yunus On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 2:25 AM, Ben T. t.be...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I volunteer for a tiny library that is growing. At this point we're looking for a way to manage our check-outs/returns some way more efficient than paper and pencil.

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Help for a tiny library?

2015-01-18 Thread Mark Ehle
You might be able to run Evergreen as a virtual machine on your windows box - I would use VirtualBox. Just make sure to have a rigorous backup regimen. On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Yunus karant...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Ben, May test OpenBiblio interface. Yunus On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Help for a tiny library?

2015-01-18 Thread Rogan Hamby
Hi Ben, This was alluded to but to be clear, Evergreen isn't Windows software. Evergreen was built to run on Linux and is commonly run on Debian though I know it's used successfully on other distributions as well. Honestly, as much as I love to spread the love of Evergreen from what I can infer

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Help for a tiny library?

2015-01-18 Thread Mark Ehle
Not at all dubious, Rogan. We run Sirsi Symphony as a VM and have been for years. We pretty much don't run our servers on anything else *but* VM's. It's just how things are done now. I've run Evergreen in Virtual Box (totally free) on my PC to play with it and it works just fine. Given a decent

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Help for a tiny library?

2015-01-18 Thread Rogan Hamby
Hi Mark, There is a big difference between running a production system on a desktop VM and playing with it. Running Evergreen in Virtual Box is common for developers, documenters, etc And it's important for those who don't have a systems background that a VM in a server environment and

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Help for a tiny library?

2015-01-18 Thread Mark Ehle
When you have quad-core PC's with 8gb of ram, the difference is not that much. I've run production VM's on my PC in a pinch and our staff never knew. What do you suggest Ben does? On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Rogan Hamby rogan.ha...@yclibrary.net wrote: Hi Mark, There is a big

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Help for a tiny library?

2015-01-18 Thread Mark Ehle
Ben did say he was decently tech savvy and asked for a way to run Evergreen on a pc. VirtualBox fits the bill. On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 12:08 PM, McCanna, Terran tmcca...@georgialibraries.org wrote: Regardless of whether it's feasible in a Windows VM environment or not, I really think that

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Help for a tiny library?

2015-01-18 Thread Mark Ehle
We ran everything in VirtualBox for a long time. Is it the PC hardware you object to? Or just VM's in general. On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Mark Ehle marke...@gmail.com wrote: When you have quad-core PC's with 8gb of ram, the difference is not that much. I've run production VM's on my PC

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Help for a tiny library?

2015-01-18 Thread McCanna, Terran
Regardless of whether it's feasible in a Windows VM environment or not, I really think that Evergreen is too complicated to set up and maintain for someone who doesn't have a strong skillset in system administration. A hosted ILS would be a better option, but a lot of tiny libraries can't

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Help for a tiny library?

2015-01-18 Thread Ben T.
Thank you for all the responses. Rogan, you inferences are generally correct. I do not have much experience. I have worked with virtual machines before, and I use Ubuntu on my personal computer, but I have never really been a sys admin. As for time, I do not have much time per week, but I have

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Help for a tiny library?

2015-01-18 Thread McCanna, Terran
Ben, Ouch, I didn't see Surpass's price tag. There's something called ResourceMate that has a Lite edition for $295, and another called PrimaSoft Small Library Organizer Pro for $245, both of which are designed for very small libraries to run on a single machine. Again, I haven't used either,

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Help for a tiny library?

2015-01-18 Thread Rogan Hamby
I'm trying to address the original question. I appreciate that you have your own perspective but addressing the issue at hand requires looking at it in context of the person asking the question, not your background and your resources. Nor mine. I've made several inferences from his question.

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Help for a tiny library?

2015-01-18 Thread Rogan Hamby
It does still require Linux skills as it's a virtual machine whether he has that skill set or is willing to invest the time to learn it is a pre-requisite, something I wouldn't assume from the question. On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Mark Ehle marke...@gmail.com wrote: Ben did say he was