It does still require Linux skills as it's a virtual machine whether he has that skill set or is willing to invest the time to learn it is a pre-requisite, something I wouldn't assume from the question.
On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Mark Ehle <[email protected]> wrote: > Ben did say he was decently tech savvy and asked for a way to run > Evergreen on a pc. VirtualBox fits the bill. > > On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 12:08 PM, McCanna, Terran < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Regardless of whether it's feasible in a Windows VM environment or not, I >> really think that Evergreen is too complicated to set up and maintain for >> someone who doesn't have a strong skillset in system administration. A >> hosted ILS would be a better option, but a lot of tiny libraries can't >> afford that either. >> >> Personally, if I were in Ben's position, I would investigate some of the >> library automation system offerings that are designed specifically for >> small libraries. Does anyone have any experience with Surpass? I haven't >> used it, but it looks like it was designed for tiny libraries (less than >> 5000 items) and has a standalone license option for running on a single >> non-networked PC: http://www.surpasssoftware.com/surpass-sl.html. >> >> >> Terran McCanna >> PINES Program Manager >> Georgia Public Library Service >> 1800 Century Place, Suite 150 >> Atlanta, GA 30345 >> 404-235-7138 >> [email protected] >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mark Ehle" <[email protected]> >> To: "Evergreen Discussion Group" < >> [email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 11:26:53 AM >> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Help for a tiny library? >> >> We ran everything in VirtualBox for a long time. Is it the PC hardware you >> object to? Or just VM's in general. >> >> On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Mark Ehle <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > When you have quad-core PC's with 8gb of ram, the difference is not that >> > much. I've run production VM's on my PC in a pinch and our staff never >> > knew. >> > >> > What do you suggest Ben does? >> > >> > >> > On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Rogan Hamby < >> [email protected]> >> > wrote: >> > >> >> Hi Mark, >> >> >> >> There is a big difference between running a production system on a >> >> desktop VM and playing with it. Running Evergreen in Virtual Box is >> common >> >> for developers, documenters, etc.... >> >> >> >> And it's important for those who don't have a systems background that a >> >> VM in a server environment and throwing up a VM on a desktop with >> limited >> >> resources are very different things. >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Mark Ehle <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Not at all dubious, Rogan. We run Sirsi Symphony as a VM and have been >> >>> for years. We pretty much don't run our servers on anything else *but* >> >>> VM's. It's just how things are done now. I've run Evergreen in >> Virtual Box >> >>> (totally free) on my PC to play with it and it works just fine. Given >> a >> >>> decent enough PC,mainly enough memory, I'm sure you could run >> Evergreen on >> >>> a VM for a few clients for a small library. >> >>> >> >>> On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Rogan Hamby < >> [email protected] >> >>> > wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> Hi Ben, >> >>>> >> >>>> This was alluded to but to be clear, Evergreen isn't Windows >> software. >> >>>> Evergreen was built to run on Linux and is commonly run on Debian >> though I >> >>>> know it's used successfully on other distributions as well. >> Honestly, as >> >>>> much as I love to spread the love of Evergreen from what I can infer >> from >> >>>> your post I don't think this would be the right direction for you. >> >>>> >> >>>> Running a production system on a VM is dubious though possible but >> then >> >>>> connecting clients, doing the configuration, etc... these are going >> to >> >>>> require a big investment of time and energy on the part of staff. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Ben T. <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> Hello All, >> >>>>> >> >>>>> I volunteer for a tiny library that is growing. At this point we're >> >>>>> looking for a way to manage our check-outs/returns some way more >> efficient >> >>>>> than paper and pencil. Evergreen seems like it could be a good >> solution >> >>>>> for us, however we are not able to afford a server at this point >> nor a >> >>>>> subscription (we basically have no money). Is there any way >> (hopefully a >> >>>>> simple one) to run Evergreen just on a single Windows (7) machine, >> keeping >> >>>>> the catalog and patron information locally? >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Sincerely, >> >>>>> Ben >> >>>>> Librarian Volunteer >> >>>>> Kendall Clawson Library >> >>>>> >> >>>>> p.s. I am decently tech savvy, but not VERY tech savvy. I won't be >> >>>>> able to do any major amount of coding on my own. >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> >> >>>> Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA >> >>>> Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services, >> >>>> York County Library System >> >>>> >> >>>> “You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to >> >>>> suit me.” >> >>>> ― C.S. Lewis <http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1069006.C_S_Lewis >> > >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA >> >> Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services, >> >> York County Library System >> >> >> >> “You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to >> >> suit me.” >> >> ― C.S. Lewis <http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1069006.C_S_Lewis> >> >> >> > >> > >> > > -- Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services, York County Library System “You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to suit me.” ― C.S. Lewis <http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1069006.C_S_Lewis>
