Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts - AND books?

2015-08-04 Thread Rogan Hamby
I didn't think that's what you meant, it's just what popped in my head. Reference work has taught me to never assume I do know what folks mean. :) On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Walz, Jennifer wrote: > All – > > > > Well, I am sorry that I was not obvious enough.But CERTAINLY I would >

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Staff login - multiple windows logins

2015-08-04 Thread Jason Stephenson
Hi, This time, I've got an answer that might help you. If you build custom clients for your location you can specify the permachine target when doing the make command to build the client. If you don't build your own, all the above does is copy a file into the staff client preferences directory

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts - AND books?

2015-08-04 Thread Walz, Jennifer
All – Well, I am sorry that I was not obvious enough.But CERTAINLY I would not want to delete anything with items / volumes / copies attached. That is just silly. But I seriously don’t care about the bib / item / copy etc when it CAN be deleted. I don’t want “ historical” data. Th

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts

2015-08-04 Thread Rogan Hamby
There are other issues that can come up with reporting and aged circulations but those are more workflow issues than technical ones. All of this being a very long way of saying there are pros and cons with every choice. :) On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Jason Etheridge wrote: > >Thank you

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts - AND books?

2015-08-04 Thread Rogan Hamby
Based on another reply I think she meant more of permanently deleting than cascading a delete. I wasn't clear on that initially. I think there would be real dangers in the same scenarios Elaine brought up. As for permanently obliterating other kinds of records I don't think there's one answer th

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts - AND books?

2015-08-04 Thread Hardy, Elaine
No. Just No. Unless it was totally configurable and could never, ever show up if we didn’t want it. Ever. The thought of having to correct the resultant mess if someone could delete at the bib record level while vols and copies are attached in a consortium database will give me nightmares. I kn

[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Staff login - multiple windows logins

2015-08-04 Thread Walz, Jennifer
All - I think I have asked this before - or a variation thereof. I was just wondering if maybe someone has come up with a creative solution since before. So, we have student workers in another department in our building, who will be checking in and out equipment. Each student will be log

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts

2015-08-04 Thread Rogan Hamby
That's good to know, I thought they were all deleted.  For me it's still an issue as it means we would lose statistical data associated with the user as it relates to transactions.  For my needs anonymizing identifiable information is better.   ---Sent from Boxer | http://getboxer.com Quoting

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts

2015-08-04 Thread Jason Etheridge
>Thank you for replying. One thing you mentioned has piqued my interest. > It might be easier if I gave a scenario instead of trying to describe what I > mean. Say, on January 2, 2016, I run a report on circulation for 2015 and > then, a month later, delete many patrons some of whom had checke

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts

2015-08-04 Thread Jason Stephenson
Quoting Rogan Hamby : The short answer to both questions is, yes. Obliterating a patron wipes associated records. So for example circ records require a link back to a patron account, you can't not have it. So, to delete a patron account you have to delete those circ records and that will affec

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts

2015-08-04 Thread Rogan Hamby
The short answer to both questions is, yes. Obliterating a patron wipes associated records. So for example circ records require a link back to a patron account, you can't not have it. So, to delete a patron account you have to delete those circ records and that will affect reports later. On T

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts - AND books?

2015-08-04 Thread Rogan Hamby
Like delete the bib records and let it caascade down and delete all associated volumes and copies? On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Walz, Jennifer wrote: > All – > > > > Boy, it sure would be nice if we had the same options with books. (i.e. > bib records, item records, copy records, and the lik

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts - AND books?

2015-08-04 Thread Walz, Jennifer
All – Boy, it sure would be nice if we had the same options with books. (i.e. bib records, item records, copy records, and the like) ☺ Please? Thanks! Jennifer -- Jennifer Walz, MLS - Head of Ebsco Irritations Kinlaw Library - Asbury Univers

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts

2015-08-04 Thread Scott Thomas
Hi Rogan, Thank you for replying. One thing you mentioned has piqued my interest. It might be easier if I gave a scenario instead of trying to describe what I mean. Say, on January 2, 2016, I run a report on circulation for 2015 and then, a month later, delete many patrons some of whom had c

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts

2015-08-04 Thread Rogan Hamby
There are a few different kinds of deleting in Evergreen. One is to turn on the deleted flag on the account. That doesn't do much other than hide the account from the staff client pulling it up and is relatively harmless. The other kind of deleting is obliterating the account. This is the delet

[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts

2015-08-04 Thread Scott Thomas
Our old ILS would not allow you to remove a patron until all outstanding bills, holds, and checkouts were cleared. We were thrilled that Evergreen would simply allow you to remove the patron. However, I have heard from various sources that, while EG will allow you to remove a patron with impunit