I didn't think that's what you meant, it's just what popped in my head. Reference work has taught me to never assume I do know what folks mean. :)
On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Walz, Jennifer <[email protected]> wrote: > All – > > > > Well, I am sorry that I was not obvious enough. But CERTAINLY I would > not want to delete anything with items / volumes / copies attached. That > is just silly. > > > > But I seriously don’t care about the bib / item / copy etc when it CAN be > deleted. I don’t want “ historical” data. The whole point of deletion > is to delete it! So, make it go away. > > > > Otherwise, call it something else and “park” it in a hidden status or > something. Don’t call it deleting, if you are actually NOT deleting it in > actual fact. When I delete something it goes away – off the server, out > of the data record, gone. > > > > And now that I know that patron records are not actually deleted > either??!! UGH!! You are killing me. I like clean data files. > > > > And now, back to your regularly scheduled programming… > > > > Jennifer > > -------------------------------------------------- > Jennifer Walz, MLS - Head of Research & Distance Services > Kinlaw Library - *Asbury University* > One Macklem Drive, Wilmore, KY 40390 > 859-858-3511 ext. 2269 > [email protected] > > > > *From:* Open-ils-general [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Rogan > Hamby > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 04, 2015 4:42 PM > > *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group > *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts - AND books? > > > > Based on another reply I think she meant more of permanently deleting than > cascading a delete. I wasn't clear on that initially. I think there would > be real dangers in the same scenarios Elaine brought up. As for > permanently obliterating other kinds of records I don't think there's one > answer that is right for everyone. I can appreciate the view point of > "it's gone I don't need it anymore, it's a waste of bits in storage and > another pass through the tables" but I like looking at historical data so > I'm very hesitant to toss any of it. Evergreen's default "don't throw > anything away" behavior appeals to me. > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Hardy, Elaine <[email protected]> > wrote: > > No. Just No. Unless it was totally configurable and could never, ever show > up if we didn’t want it. Ever. The thought of having to correct the > resultant mess if someone could delete at the bib record level while vols > and copies are attached in a consortium database will give me nightmares. I > know that it would be tied to permissions but still. No. The few number of > times a cataloger could use it on a record with just their library’s > holdings attached would not be worth the possibility of someone incorrectly > deleting a record with 1000s of items attached. > > > > Perhaps what Jennifer meant was to truly delete a bibliographic record > after one has deleted all copies and volumes attached? However, as Jason > points out with patron info, totally deleting bib records, volumes, and > copies would also negatively impact referential integrity in the database. > It is also nice to be able to undelete a bib record if needed. > > > > *Elaine* > > > > J. Elaine Hardy > PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager > Georgia Public Library Service > 1800 Century Place, Ste 150 > Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304 > > > > 404.235.7128 > 404.235.7201, fax > [email protected] > www.georgialibraries.org > www.georgialibraries.org/pines > > > > *From:* Open-ils-general [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Rogan > Hamby > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 04, 2015 3:40 PM > *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group > *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts - AND books? > > > > Like delete the bib records and let it caascade down and delete all > associated volumes and copies? > > > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Walz, Jennifer <[email protected]> wrote: > > All – > > > > Boy, it sure would be nice if we had the same options with books. (i.e. > bib records, item records, copy records, and the like) > > > > J > > > > Please? > > > > Thanks! > > > > Jennifer > > -------------------------------------------------- > Jennifer Walz, MLS - Head of Ebsco Irritations > Kinlaw Library - *Asbury University* > One Macklem Drive, Wilmore, KY 40390 > 859-858-3511 ext. 2269 > [email protected] > > > > *From:* Open-ils-general [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Rogan > Hamby > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 04, 2015 1:33 PM > *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group > *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA > > Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services, > > York County Library System > > > > “You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to suit > me.” > ― C.S. Lewis <http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1069006.C_S_Lewis> > -- Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services, York County Library System “You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to suit me.” ― C.S. Lewis <http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1069006.C_S_Lewis>
