[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] self-check receipt config?
Hi all, I've been working with one of our libraries on the self-checkout and we're running into issues configuring the receipt printer. . A regular 8.5 x 11 personal laser prints things out on a single sheet pretty well, but using a label/receipt paper printer, there's an excessive amount of feed. The library was able to solve this issue with their regular staff-client workstations (using the same printers) by making changes in the printer settings editor. However, with the self-check, I'm thinking this is not an option? I've checked the documentation, some of the links mentioned here, http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=scratchpad:simple_self_check, and a few other places, but can't seem to find anything too specificmaybe I'm overlooking stuff. I also need to go back and take another run at the printer config as well, but wanted to ask around first to see about software changes. If you have any links or other information, would you mind to share? Appreciate it! --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.orgmailto:to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-484-1074 (Direct) 614-486-2966 x19
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Best-Hold Selection Sort Order
Hi Johnnie, NOBLE implemented Traditional with Holds Always Go Home Best-Hold Selection Sort Order systemwide so that items will always travel home if there are any holds for pickup at the owning library. We actually tweaked it a bit, removing approx and aprox. Since we do not adjust proximity, there's no need to include them. Hope this helps. Michele -- Michele M. Morgan, Technical Assistant North of Boston Library Exchange, Danvers Massachusetts mmor...@noblenet.org On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Ben Shum bs...@biblio.org wrote: Hi Johnnie, Bibliomation implemented Best-Hold Selection Sort Order changes for at least one member library that required a specific approach to holds that differed from the rest of our consortium. I described that use case in more detail in this post to the dev list a few years ago ( http://markmail.org/message/pdksulwazgwzlro4) and that led to the feature's development too. Since implementation, we have had no complaints about hold prioritization for the use case, so I consider that a Pro of it works for us with no speakable Cons for now. Can you give us a little more information about what potential use case are you hoping to achieve with the feature? Are you trying to raise or prioritize holds for a given subset of libraries? Is it based on geography, distance, political alliances? There are lots of options and not all may result in optimal or expected outcomes... -- Ben On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Pippin, Johnnie johnnie.pip...@ncdcr.gov wrote: Good morning, NC Cardinal is reviewing the Best-Hold Selection Sort Order for holds placed in our consortium and wanted to gather some information from the community before we move forward. Has anyone implemented this process? If currently using, what are the pros and cons of the Best-Hold Selecting Sort Order? Are there any major problems to be made aware of when using Best-Hold Selecting Sort Order? Thanks! - Johnnie *The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good*. - Samuel Johnson Johnnie Pippin - NC Cardinal Consultant State Library of North Carolina 4640 Mail Service Center Raleigh, NC 27699-4640 johnnie.pip...@ncdcr.gov Office: 919.807.7408 / Fax: 919.733.8748 [image: Cardinal][image: Cardinal 2] --- North Carolina Department of Cultural Resources Opinions expressed in this message may not represent the policy of my agency. Email correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records law “NCGS.Ch. 132” and may be disclosed to third parties by an authorized state official. -- Benjamin Shum Evergreen Systems Manager Bibliomation, Inc. 24 Wooster Ave. Waterbury, CT 06708 203-577-4070, ext. 113
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Recent Evergreen and OpenSRF releases
Hello, there have been some new Evergreen and OpenSRF releases recently that haven't been mentioned on the general list. There were a bunch of fixes for install problems on Debian Jessie, so if you have wanted to try EG with Jessie, these releases should work much better for you. OpenSRF 2.4.1 released on 2015-06-24 - Changelog: http://evergreen-ils.org/downloads/OpenSRF-ChangeLog-2.4.1 - Release Notes: http://evergreen-ils.org/documentation/release/OpenSRF/RELEASE_NOTES_2_4_x.html - Install Docs: http://evergreen-ils.org/documentation/install/OpenSRF/README_2_4_1.html - Bugs fixed: https://launchpad.net/opensrf/+milestone/2.4.1 - Download - http://evergreen-ils.org/opensrf-downloads/ Evergreen 2.8.2 released on 2015-06-17 - Changelog: http://evergreen-ils.org/downloads/ChangeLog-2.8.1-2.8.2 - Release Notes: http://evergreen-ils.org/documentation/release/RELEASE_NOTES_2_8.html - Install Docs: http://evergreen-ils.org/documentation/install/README_2_8.html - Bugs Fixed: https://launchpad.net/evergreen/2.8/2.8.2 - Download: http://evergreen-ils.org/egdownloads/ Evergreen 2.7.6 released on 2015-06-17 - Changelog: http://evergreen-ils.org/downloads/ChangeLog-2.7.5-2.7.6 - Release Notes: http://evergreen-ils.org/documentation/release/RELEASE_NOTES_2_7.htmlnotes://%20http:/evergreen-ils.org/documentation/release/RELEASE_NOTES_2_7.html - Install Docs: http://evergreen-ils.org/documentation/install/README_2_7.html - Bugs Fixed: https://launchpad.net/evergreen/2.7/2.7.6 - Download: http://evergreen-ils.org/egdownloads/ I just tried an upgrade on a test system of 2.7.4 - 2.8.2 and it went smooth, as well as a 2.8.0 to 2.8.2 upgrade, along with upgrading to Opensrf 2.4.1 on both systems. Lake Agassiz Regional Library - Moorhead MN larl.org Josh Stompro | Office 218.233.3757 EXT-139 LARL IT Director | Cell 218.790.2110
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Best-Hold Selection Sort Order
implementation, we have had no complaints about hold prioritization for the use case, so I consider that a Pro of it works for us with no speakable Cons for now. Can you give us a little more information about what potential use case are you hoping to achieve with the feature? Are you trying to raise or prioritize holds for a given subset of libraries? Is it based on geography, distance, political alliances? There are lots of options and not all may result in optimal or expected outcomes... -- Ben On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Pippin, Johnnie johnnie.pip...@ncdcr.gov wrote: Good morning, NC Cardinal is reviewing the Best-Hold Selection Sort Order for holds placed in our consortium and wanted to gather some information from the community before we move forward. Has anyone implemented this process? If currently using, what are the pros and cons of the Best-Hold Selecting Sort Order? Are there any major problems to be made aware of when using Best-Hold Selecting Sort Order? Thanks! - Johnnie *The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good*. - Samuel Johnson Johnnie Pippin - NC Cardinal Consultant State Library of North Carolina 4640 Mail Service Center Raleigh, NC 27699-4640 johnnie.pip...@ncdcr.gov Office: 919.807.7408 / Fax: 919.733.8748 [image: Cardinal][image: Cardinal 2] --- North Carolina Department of Cultural Resources Opinions expressed in this message may not represent the policy of my agency. Email correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records law “NCGS.Ch. 132” and may be disclosed to third parties by an authorized state official. -- Benjamin Shum Evergreen Systems Manager Bibliomation, Inc. 24 Wooster Ave. Waterbury, CT 06708 203-577-4070, ext. 113 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/pipermail/open-ils-general/attachments/20150701/6eb1cfe2/attachment.html -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image005.png Type: image/png Size: 9078 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/pipermail/open-ils-general/attachments/20150701/6eb1cfe2/attachment.png -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image006.png Type: image/png Size: 6813 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/pipermail/open-ils-general/attachments/20150701/6eb1cfe2/attachment-0001.png End of Open-ils-general Digest, Vol 109, Issue 5 -- Kathy Lussier Project Coordinator Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative (508) 343-0128 kluss...@masslnc.org Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier -- Thomas Berezansky Assistant Network Administrator Merrimack Valley Library Consortium 4 High ST, Suite 175 North Andover, MA 01845 Phone: 978-557-8161
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Best-Hold Selection Sort Order
measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good*. - Samuel Johnson Johnnie Pippin - NC Cardinal Consultant State Library of North Carolina 4640 Mail Service Center Raleigh, NC 27699-4640 johnnie.pip...@ncdcr.gov Office: 919.807.7408 / Fax: 919.733.8748 [image: Cardinal][image: Cardinal 2] --- North Carolina Department of Cultural Resources Opinions expressed in this message may not represent the policy of my agency. Email correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records law “NCGS.Ch. 132” and may be disclosed to third parties by an authorized state official. -- Benjamin Shum Evergreen Systems Manager Bibliomation, Inc. 24 Wooster Ave. Waterbury, CT 06708 203-577-4070, ext. 113 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/pipermail/open-ils-general/attachments/20150701/6eb1cfe2/attachment.html -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image005.png Type: image/png Size: 9078 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/pipermail/open-ils-general/attachments/20150701/6eb1cfe2/attachment.png -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image006.png Type: image/png Size: 6813 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/pipermail/open-ils-general/attachments/20150701/6eb1cfe2/attachment-0001.png End of Open-ils-general Digest, Vol 109, Issue 5
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Best-Hold Selection Sort Order
...@ncdcr.gov wrote: Good morning, NC Cardinal is reviewing the Best-Hold Selection Sort Order for holds placed in our consortium and wanted to gather some information from the community before we move forward. Has anyone implemented this process? If currently using, what are the pros and cons of the Best-Hold Selecting Sort Order? Are there any major problems to be made aware of when using Best-Hold Selecting Sort Order? Thanks! - Johnnie *The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good*. - Samuel Johnson Johnnie Pippin - NC Cardinal Consultant State Library of North Carolina 4640 Mail Service Center Raleigh, NC 27699-4640 johnnie.pip...@ncdcr.gov Office: 919.807.7408 / Fax: 919.733.8748 [image: Cardinal][image: Cardinal 2] --- North Carolina Department of Cultural Resources Opinions expressed in this message may not represent the policy of my agency. Email correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records law “NCGS.Ch. 132” and may be disclosed to third parties by an authorized state official. -- Benjamin Shum Evergreen Systems Manager Bibliomation, Inc. 24 Wooster Ave. Waterbury, CT 06708 203-577-4070, ext. 113 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/pipermail/open-ils-general/attachments/20150701/6eb1cfe2/attachment.html -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image005.png Type: image/png Size: 9078 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/pipermail/open-ils-general/attachments/20150701/6eb1cfe2/attachment.png -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image006.png Type: image/png Size: 6813 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/pipermail/open-ils-general/attachments/20150701/6eb1cfe2/attachment-0001.png End of Open-ils-general Digest, Vol 109, Issue 5 -- Kathy Lussier Project Coordinator Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative (508) 343-0128 kluss...@masslnc.org Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Best-Hold Selection Sort Order
Good morning, NC Cardinal is reviewing the Best-Hold Selection Sort Order for holds placed in our consortium and wanted to gather some information from the community before we move forward. Has anyone implemented this process? If currently using, what are the pros and cons of the Best-Hold Selecting Sort Order? Are there any major problems to be made aware of when using Best-Hold Selecting Sort Order? Thanks! - Johnnie The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good. - Samuel Johnson Johnnie Pippin - NC Cardinal Consultant State Library of North Carolina 4640 Mail Service Center Raleigh, NC 27699-4640 johnnie.pip...@ncdcr.govmailto:johnnie.pip...@ncdcr.gov Office: 919.807.7408 / Fax: 919.733.8748 [Cardinal][Cardinal 2] --- North Carolina Department of Cultural Resources Opinions expressed in this message may not represent the policy of my agency. Email correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records law NCGS.Ch. 132 and may be disclosed to third parties by an authorized state official.
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] self-check receipt config?
Hi Ben, folks, Appreciate the update! This is using the updated 2.7.X selfcheck interface via a standard web browser (Chrome, FF). My test printer is a Zebra GX430t attached via USB. I think the library is using another type of printer, similar to the Zebra I'm using (USB, etc.). Appreciate the OpenKiosk information--I had forgotten about that. I will give it a whack. Thanks, --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-484-1074 (Direct) 614-486-2966 x19 -Original Message- From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Ben Shum Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 12:22 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] self-check receipt config? Hi Tony, For clarification, are you speaking about an actual selfcheck appliance by a specific vendor? Or are you using the Evergreen web selfcheckout interface via some sort of dedicated browser on a machine? If the latter, the Evergreen web selfcheckout's printing might rely mainly on the browser's configuration actually. For our libs who use web selfcheck, we generally recommended using OpenKiosk (http://openkiosk.mozdevgroup.com/) and what we've found is that in certain cases with receipt printers, we had to manually tweak the OpenKiosk configuration files to apply certain printer settings. As a variant browser based of Mozilla Firefox, what I found is that I could compare configuration file prefs.js from Firefox's appdata directory to OpenKiosk's. So I experimented by configuring Firefox to print the way I wanted to, then copied over printer_* related lines from that prefs.js over to OpenKiosk's prefs.js file. I do not have this information readily available to share, but there might be further information to be found online in other forums. Also, for the lists and general information, the wiki link that Tony found is to an older selfcheck interface that will soon be removed (it is already deprecated and not supported). See https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1312297 for notes on removal. That wiki page should probably be deleted at some point. Or updated to reflect the newer tt2 based selfcheck. -- Ben On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org wrote: Hi all, I’ve been working with one of our libraries on the self-checkout and we’re running into issues configuring the receipt printer. . A regular 8.5 x 11 personal laser prints things out on a single sheet pretty well, but using a label/receipt paper printer, there’s an excessive amount of feed. The library was able to solve this issue with their regular staff-client workstations (using the same printers) by making changes in the printer settings editor. However, with the self-check, I’m thinking this is not an option? I’ve checked the documentation, some of the links mentioned here, http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=scratchpad:simple_self_c heck, and a few other places, but can’t seem to find anything too specific….maybe I’m overlooking stuff. I also need to go back and take another run at the printer config as well, but wanted to ask around first to see about software changes. If you have any links or other information, would you mind to share? Appreciate it! --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-484-1074 (Direct) 614-486-2966 x19 -- Benjamin Shum Evergreen Systems Manager Bibliomation, Inc. 24 Wooster Ave. Waterbury, CT 06708 203-577-4070, ext. 113
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Best-Hold Selection Sort Order
MVLC has currently implemented a Holds Go Home First configuration there. End result based on our org tree is that holds are looked for in the following order: Holds at copy circ lib Holds at sibling branches of copy circ lib Holds at checkin lib Holds at sibling branches of checkin lib Oldest hold elsewhere I believe this results in more library to library transits, but also faster service to the patrons of libraries that own items. I believe there are supposed to be ways to make items go home after a period of time not being home but we haven't implemented that. Quoting Ben Shum bs...@biblio.org: Hi Johnnie, Bibliomation implemented Best-Hold Selection Sort Order changes for at least one member library that required a specific approach to holds that differed from the rest of our consortium. I described that use case in more detail in this post to the dev list a few years ago ( http://markmail.org/message/pdksulwazgwzlro4) and that led to the feature's development too. Since implementation, we have had no complaints about hold prioritization for the use case, so I consider that a Pro of it works for us with no speakable Cons for now. Can you give us a little more information about what potential use case are you hoping to achieve with the feature? Are you trying to raise or prioritize holds for a given subset of libraries? Is it based on geography, distance, political alliances? There are lots of options and not all may result in optimal or expected outcomes... -- Ben On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Pippin, Johnnie johnnie.pip...@ncdcr.gov wrote: Good morning, NC Cardinal is reviewing the Best-Hold Selection Sort Order for holds placed in our consortium and wanted to gather some information from the community before we move forward. Has anyone implemented this process? If currently using, what are the pros and cons of the Best-Hold Selecting Sort Order? Are there any major problems to be made aware of when using Best-Hold Selecting Sort Order? Thanks! - Johnnie *The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good*. - Samuel Johnson Johnnie Pippin - NC Cardinal Consultant State Library of North Carolina 4640 Mail Service Center Raleigh, NC 27699-4640 johnnie.pip...@ncdcr.gov Office: 919.807.7408 / Fax: 919.733.8748 [image: Cardinal][image: Cardinal 2] --- North Carolina Department of Cultural Resources Opinions expressed in this message may not represent the policy of my agency. Email correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records law “NCGS.Ch. 132” and may be disclosed to third parties by an authorized state official. -- Benjamin Shum Evergreen Systems Manager Bibliomation, Inc. 24 Wooster Ave. Waterbury, CT 06708 203-577-4070, ext. 113 -- Thomas Berezansky Assistant Network Administrator Merrimack Valley Library Consortium 4 High ST, Suite 175 North Andover, MA 01845 Phone: 978-557-8161
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] self-check receipt config?
Hi Tony, Easier then with standard web browsers like Chrome/Firefox. I would expect there to be browser settings available for per-printer configuration, or alternatively, you could configure the OS (Windows, or whatever) to print a specific way by default too, and then tell the browser to use that printer. Sometimes what we do is to configure Windows to use a receipt printer by default, and then adjust paper type, etc. in the printer's configuration in Windows instead of the application specific (Evergreen, web browsers, whatever) and that can work too. If it's the only printer attached to the machine anyways. And you don't print regular sized web page contents on receipt printers... heh. -- Ben On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org wrote: Hi Ben, folks, Appreciate the update! This is using the updated 2.7.X selfcheck interface via a standard web browser (Chrome, FF). My test printer is a Zebra GX430t attached via USB. I think the library is using another type of printer, similar to the Zebra I'm using (USB, etc.). Appreciate the OpenKiosk information--I had forgotten about that. I will give it a whack. Thanks, --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-484-1074 (Direct) 614-486-2966 x19 -Original Message- From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Ben Shum Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 12:22 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] self-check receipt config? Hi Tony, For clarification, are you speaking about an actual selfcheck appliance by a specific vendor? Or are you using the Evergreen web selfcheckout interface via some sort of dedicated browser on a machine? If the latter, the Evergreen web selfcheckout's printing might rely mainly on the browser's configuration actually. For our libs who use web selfcheck, we generally recommended using OpenKiosk (http://openkiosk.mozdevgroup.com/) and what we've found is that in certain cases with receipt printers, we had to manually tweak the OpenKiosk configuration files to apply certain printer settings. As a variant browser based of Mozilla Firefox, what I found is that I could compare configuration file prefs.js from Firefox's appdata directory to OpenKiosk's. So I experimented by configuring Firefox to print the way I wanted to, then copied over printer_* related lines from that prefs.js over to OpenKiosk's prefs.js file. I do not have this information readily available to share, but there might be further information to be found online in other forums. Also, for the lists and general information, the wiki link that Tony found is to an older selfcheck interface that will soon be removed (it is already deprecated and not supported). See https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1312297 for notes on removal. That wiki page should probably be deleted at some point. Or updated to reflect the newer tt2 based selfcheck. -- Ben On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org wrote: Hi all, I’ve been working with one of our libraries on the self-checkout and we’re running into issues configuring the receipt printer. . A regular 8.5 x 11 personal laser prints things out on a single sheet pretty well, but using a label/receipt paper printer, there’s an excessive amount of feed. The library was able to solve this issue with their regular staff-client workstations (using the same printers) by making changes in the printer settings editor. However, with the self-check, I’m thinking this is not an option? I’ve checked the documentation, some of the links mentioned here, http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=scratchpad:simple_self_c heck, and a few other places, but can’t seem to find anything too specific….maybe I’m overlooking stuff. I also need to go back and take another run at the printer config as well, but wanted to ask around first to see about software changes. If you have any links or other information, would you mind to share? Appreciate it! --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-484-1074 (Direct) 614-486-2966 x19 -- Benjamin Shum Evergreen Systems Manager Bibliomation, Inc. 24 Wooster Ave. Waterbury, CT 06708 203-577-4070, ext. 113 -- Benjamin Shum Evergreen Systems Manager Bibliomation, Inc. 24 Wooster Ave. Waterbury, CT 06708 203-577-4070, ext. 113
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Best-Hold Selection Sort Order
Johnnie, We use it to prioritize hold fulfillment based on the way our courier is set up, hoping to minimize transit time for the patron. Beth Longwell Sage Library System On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 10:07 AM, Michele Morgan mmor...@noblenet.org wrote: Hi Johnnie, NOBLE implemented Traditional with Holds Always Go Home Best-Hold Selection Sort Order systemwide so that items will always travel home if there are any holds for pickup at the owning library. We actually tweaked it a bit, removing approx and aprox. Since we do not adjust proximity, there's no need to include them. Hope this helps. Michele -- Michele M. Morgan, Technical Assistant North of Boston Library Exchange, Danvers Massachusetts mmor...@noblenet.org On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Ben Shum bs...@biblio.org wrote: Hi Johnnie, Bibliomation implemented Best-Hold Selection Sort Order changes for at least one member library that required a specific approach to holds that differed from the rest of our consortium. I described that use case in more detail in this post to the dev list a few years ago ( http://markmail.org/message/pdksulwazgwzlro4) and that led to the feature's development too. Since implementation, we have had no complaints about hold prioritization for the use case, so I consider that a Pro of it works for us with no speakable Cons for now. Can you give us a little more information about what potential use case are you hoping to achieve with the feature? Are you trying to raise or prioritize holds for a given subset of libraries? Is it based on geography, distance, political alliances? There are lots of options and not all may result in optimal or expected outcomes... -- Ben On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Pippin, Johnnie johnnie.pip...@ncdcr.gov wrote: Good morning, NC Cardinal is reviewing the Best-Hold Selection Sort Order for holds placed in our consortium and wanted to gather some information from the community before we move forward. Has anyone implemented this process? If currently using, what are the pros and cons of the Best-Hold Selecting Sort Order? Are there any major problems to be made aware of when using Best-Hold Selecting Sort Order? Thanks! - Johnnie *The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good*. - Samuel Johnson Johnnie Pippin - NC Cardinal Consultant State Library of North Carolina 4640 Mail Service Center Raleigh, NC 27699-4640 johnnie.pip...@ncdcr.gov Office: 919.807.7408 / Fax: 919.733.8748 [image: Cardinal][image: Cardinal 2] --- North Carolina Department of Cultural Resources Opinions expressed in this message may not represent the policy of my agency. Email correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records law “NCGS.Ch. 132” and may be disclosed to third parties by an authorized state official. -- Benjamin Shum Evergreen Systems Manager Bibliomation, Inc. 24 Wooster Ave. Waterbury, CT 06708 203-577-4070, ext. 113
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] self-check receipt config?
Hi Tony, For clarification, are you speaking about an actual selfcheck appliance by a specific vendor? Or are you using the Evergreen web selfcheckout interface via some sort of dedicated browser on a machine? If the latter, the Evergreen web selfcheckout's printing might rely mainly on the browser's configuration actually. For our libs who use web selfcheck, we generally recommended using OpenKiosk (http://openkiosk.mozdevgroup.com/) and what we've found is that in certain cases with receipt printers, we had to manually tweak the OpenKiosk configuration files to apply certain printer settings. As a variant browser based of Mozilla Firefox, what I found is that I could compare configuration file prefs.js from Firefox's appdata directory to OpenKiosk's. So I experimented by configuring Firefox to print the way I wanted to, then copied over printer_* related lines from that prefs.js over to OpenKiosk's prefs.js file. I do not have this information readily available to share, but there might be further information to be found online in other forums. Also, for the lists and general information, the wiki link that Tony found is to an older selfcheck interface that will soon be removed (it is already deprecated and not supported). See https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1312297 for notes on removal. That wiki page should probably be deleted at some point. Or updated to reflect the newer tt2 based selfcheck. -- Ben On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org wrote: Hi all, I’ve been working with one of our libraries on the self-checkout and we’re running into issues configuring the receipt printer. . A regular 8.5 x 11 personal laser prints things out on a single sheet pretty well, but using a label/receipt paper printer, there’s an excessive amount of feed. The library was able to solve this issue with their regular staff-client workstations (using the same printers) by making changes in the printer settings editor. However, with the self-check, I’m thinking this is not an option? I’ve checked the documentation, some of the links mentioned here, http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=scratchpad:simple_self_check, and a few other places, but can’t seem to find anything too specific….maybe I’m overlooking stuff. I also need to go back and take another run at the printer config as well, but wanted to ask around first to see about software changes. If you have any links or other information, would you mind to share? Appreciate it! --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-484-1074 (Direct) 614-486-2966 x19 -- Benjamin Shum Evergreen Systems Manager Bibliomation, Inc. 24 Wooster Ave. Waterbury, CT 06708 203-577-4070, ext. 113
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Best-Hold Selection Sort Order
Hi Johnnie, Bibliomation implemented Best-Hold Selection Sort Order changes for at least one member library that required a specific approach to holds that differed from the rest of our consortium. I described that use case in more detail in this post to the dev list a few years ago ( http://markmail.org/message/pdksulwazgwzlro4) and that led to the feature's development too. Since implementation, we have had no complaints about hold prioritization for the use case, so I consider that a Pro of it works for us with no speakable Cons for now. Can you give us a little more information about what potential use case are you hoping to achieve with the feature? Are you trying to raise or prioritize holds for a given subset of libraries? Is it based on geography, distance, political alliances? There are lots of options and not all may result in optimal or expected outcomes... -- Ben On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Pippin, Johnnie johnnie.pip...@ncdcr.gov wrote: Good morning, NC Cardinal is reviewing the Best-Hold Selection Sort Order for holds placed in our consortium and wanted to gather some information from the community before we move forward. Has anyone implemented this process? If currently using, what are the pros and cons of the Best-Hold Selecting Sort Order? Are there any major problems to be made aware of when using Best-Hold Selecting Sort Order? Thanks! - Johnnie *The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good*. - Samuel Johnson Johnnie Pippin - NC Cardinal Consultant State Library of North Carolina 4640 Mail Service Center Raleigh, NC 27699-4640 johnnie.pip...@ncdcr.gov Office: 919.807.7408 / Fax: 919.733.8748 [image: Cardinal][image: Cardinal 2] --- North Carolina Department of Cultural Resources Opinions expressed in this message may not represent the policy of my agency. Email correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records law “NCGS.Ch. 132” and may be disclosed to third parties by an authorized state official. -- Benjamin Shum Evergreen Systems Manager Bibliomation, Inc. 24 Wooster Ave. Waterbury, CT 06708 203-577-4070, ext. 113
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] self-check receipt config?
Thanks Ben, I do appreciate it--we'll try getting the printer up and running and seeing then if we can port the settings over. --Tony PS: I thought for sure we could fit that page on that super-small printer paper! :) :) Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-484-1074 (Direct) 614-486-2966 x19 -Original Message- From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Ben Shum Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 12:36 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] self-check receipt config? Hi Tony, Easier then with standard web browsers like Chrome/Firefox. I would expect there to be browser settings available for per-printer configuration, or alternatively, you could configure the OS (Windows, or whatever) to print a specific way by default too, and then tell the browser to use that printer. Sometimes what we do is to configure Windows to use a receipt printer by default, and then adjust paper type, etc. in the printer's configuration in Windows instead of the application specific (Evergreen, web browsers, whatever) and that can work too. If it's the only printer attached to the machine anyways. And you don't print regular sized web page contents on receipt printers... heh. -- Ben On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org wrote: Hi Ben, folks, Appreciate the update! This is using the updated 2.7.X selfcheck interface via a standard web browser (Chrome, FF). My test printer is a Zebra GX430t attached via USB. I think the library is using another type of printer, similar to the Zebra I'm using (USB, etc.). Appreciate the OpenKiosk information--I had forgotten about that. I will give it a whack. Thanks, --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-484-1074 (Direct) 614-486-2966 x19 -Original Message- From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Ben Shum Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 12:22 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] self-check receipt config? Hi Tony, For clarification, are you speaking about an actual selfcheck appliance by a specific vendor? Or are you using the Evergreen web selfcheckout interface via some sort of dedicated browser on a machine? If the latter, the Evergreen web selfcheckout's printing might rely mainly on the browser's configuration actually. For our libs who use web selfcheck, we generally recommended using OpenKiosk (http://openkiosk.mozdevgroup.com/) and what we've found is that in certain cases with receipt printers, we had to manually tweak the OpenKiosk configuration files to apply certain printer settings. As a variant browser based of Mozilla Firefox, what I found is that I could compare configuration file prefs.js from Firefox's appdata directory to OpenKiosk's. So I experimented by configuring Firefox to print the way I wanted to, then copied over printer_* related lines from that prefs.js over to OpenKiosk's prefs.js file. I do not have this information readily available to share, but there might be further information to be found online in other forums. Also, for the lists and general information, the wiki link that Tony found is to an older selfcheck interface that will soon be removed (it is already deprecated and not supported). See https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1312297 for notes on removal. That wiki page should probably be deleted at some point. Or updated to reflect the newer tt2 based selfcheck. -- Ben On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org wrote: Hi all, I’ve been working with one of our libraries on the self-checkout and we’re running into issues configuring the receipt printer. . A regular 8.5 x 11 personal laser prints things out on a single sheet pretty well, but using a label/receipt paper printer, there’s an excessive amount of feed. The library was able to solve this issue with their regular staff-client workstations (using the same printers) by making changes in the printer settings editor. However, with the self-check, I’m thinking this is not an option? I’ve checked the documentation, some of the links mentioned here, http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=scratchpad:simple_self_ c heck, and a few other places, but can’t seem to find anything too specific….maybe I’m overlooking stuff. I also need to go back and take another run at the printer config as well, but wanted to ask around first to see about software changes. If you have any links or other information, would you mind to share? Appreciate it! --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-484-1074 (Direct) 614-486-2966 x19 -- Benjamin Shum Evergreen
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Best-Hold Selection Sort Order
on geography, distance, political alliances? There are lots of options and not all may result in optimal or expected outcomes... -- Ben On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Pippin, Johnnie johnnie.pip...@ncdcr.gov wrote: Good morning, NC Cardinal is reviewing the Best-Hold Selection Sort Order for holds placed in our consortium and wanted to gather some information from the community before we move forward. Has anyone implemented this process? If currently using, what are the pros and cons of the Best-Hold Selecting Sort Order? Are there any major problems to be made aware of when using Best-Hold Selecting Sort Order? Thanks! - Johnnie *The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good*. - Samuel Johnson Johnnie Pippin - NC Cardinal Consultant State Library of North Carolina 4640 Mail Service Center Raleigh, NC 27699-4640 johnnie.pip...@ncdcr.gov Office: 919.807.7408 / Fax: 919.733.8748 [image: Cardinal][image: Cardinal 2] --- North Carolina Department of Cultural Resources Opinions expressed in this message may not represent the policy of my agency. Email correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records law “NCGS.Ch. 132” and may be disclosed to third parties by an authorized state official. -- Benjamin Shum Evergreen Systems Manager Bibliomation, Inc. 24 Wooster Ave. Waterbury, CT 06708 203-577-4070, ext. 113 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/pipermail/open-ils-general/attachments/20150701/6eb1cfe2/attachment.html -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image005.png Type: image/png Size: 9078 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/pipermail/open-ils-general/attachments/20150701/6eb1cfe2/attachment.png -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image006.png Type: image/png Size: 6813 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/pipermail/open-ils-general/attachments/20150701/6eb1cfe2/attachment-0001.png End of Open-ils-general Digest, Vol 109, Issue 5
