Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Serials Prediction - Quarterly

2017-09-21 Thread Daniel Wells
Hello Irene,

This issue is an inherent weakness in the MFHD specifications, as the "x"
restart only affects the top-level numbering, in this case volume (as you
discovered).

There is in Evergreen a (not well known) workaround, though, which is to
specify "4" issues, then list winter first.  (This is an Evergreen-custom
interpretation of such a setup, but at least a sensible one.)  So, using
your pattern as the basis, something like:

["0","0","8","1","a","v.","b","no.","u","4","v","c","i","(
year)","j","(season)","w","4","y","ps24,21,22,23"]

Please give that a try and see how it goes.

Also, you can manually edit predicted issues not at the item level, but
rather at the "issuance" level.  If you do this, it is best to change both
the human-readable label and the underlying MFHD code.  It is also best to
avoid this where possible, as it can have negative effects on summary
display logic.

Sincerely,
Dan


On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 10:03 AM, Patrick, Irene 
wrote:

> We are new to Evergreen, and we are trying to set our serials up using
> serial control.  I have a quarterly, with seasons, where the calendar
> change occurs with the Winter issue.  So that Fall 2016 is followed by
> Winter 2017.  I have made multiple attempts at creating a prediction for
> this title, but no matter what I do, Evergreen insists on predicting the
> issues as Fall 2016, Winter 2016, Spring 2017, Summer 2017, Fall 2017,
> Winter 2017, etc., when it should be Fall 2016, Winter *2017*, Spring
> 2017, Summer 2017, Fall 2017, Winter *2018*, etc.
>
>
>
> I’ve checked Launchpad to see if there were any reported bugs related to
> this problem and I could not find any.  I’ve also looked at the Evergreen
> wiki and Sitka sites for pattern suggestions, and I haven’t found a
> solution there either, although I may have missed something.  In both of
> our former systems, the pattern for this was easy to set up, although
> neither system used the same method for creating patterns that Evergreen
> does.
>
>
>
> There ought to be a way to do this, since it’s a common pattern, but so
> far I haven’t been able to figure it out in Evergreen.  We need to get it
> working, because we will have more serials like this.  Does anyone have a
> pattern that works for when the publication is quarterly with seasons and
> the year changes with the Winter issue instead of the Spring issue?
>
>
>
> Here is one attempt I made.  I can’t figure out why it doesn’t work.  The
> volume number does correctly change with the Winter issue, but the year
> does not.  All suggestions welcome!
>
>
>
> ["0","0","8","1","a","v.","b","no.","u","4","v","c","i","(
> year)","j","(season)","w","q","x","24"]
>
>
>
> Our former system also allowed us to alter predicted issues.  If Evergreen
> would let us do that, we could at least manually change the predicted
> issues to the correct information, but I can’t find a way to do that
> either.  If there is a way to change individually predicted issues, please
> let us know.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
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>
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>
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[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Serials Prediction - Quarterly

2017-09-21 Thread Patrick, Irene
We are new to Evergreen, and we are trying to set our serials up using serial 
control.  I have a quarterly, with seasons, where the calendar change occurs 
with the Winter issue.  So that Fall 2016 is followed by Winter 2017.  I have 
made multiple attempts at creating a prediction for this title, but no matter 
what I do, Evergreen insists on predicting the issues as Fall 2016, Winter 
2016, Spring 2017, Summer 2017, Fall 2017, Winter 2017, etc., when it should be 
Fall 2016, Winter 2017, Spring 2017, Summer 2017, Fall 2017, Winter 2018, etc.

I've checked Launchpad to see if there were any reported bugs related to this 
problem and I could not find any.  I've also looked at the Evergreen wiki and 
Sitka sites for pattern suggestions, and I haven't found a solution there 
either, although I may have missed something.  In both of our former systems, 
the pattern for this was easy to set up, although neither system used the same 
method for creating patterns that Evergreen does.

There ought to be a way to do this, since it's a common pattern, but so far I 
haven't been able to figure it out in Evergreen.  We need to get it working, 
because we will have more serials like this.  Does anyone have a pattern that 
works for when the publication is quarterly with seasons and the year changes 
with the Winter issue instead of the Spring issue?

Here is one attempt I made.  I can't figure out why it doesn't work.  The 
volume number does correctly change with the Winter issue, but the year does 
not.  All suggestions welcome!

["0","0","8","1","a","v.","b","no.","u","4","v","c","i","(year)","j","(season)","w","q","x","24"]

Our former system also allowed us to alter predicted issues.  If Evergreen 
would let us do that, we could at least manually change the predicted issues to 
the correct information, but I can't find a way to do that either.  If there is 
a way to change individually predicted issues, please let us know.

Thanks!

[NC_State_Seal PMS 2955]Irene Patrick
Library & Information Management Systems Librarian
N.C. Government & Heritage Library
State Library of North Carolina
N.C. Dept. of Natural and Cultural Resources
(919) 807-7413
irene.patr...@ncdcr.gov

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27699-4600

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