Re: [opencog-dev] Re: Pattern Matching performance

2018-03-17 Thread Ben Goertzel
"To see a World in a Grain of Sand And a Heaven in a Wild Flower, Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand And Eternity in an hour. A Robin Redbreast in a Cage Puts all Heaven in a Rage. A dove house fill’d with doves and pigeons Shudders Hell thro’ all its regions. A Dog starv’d at his Master’s

Re: [opencog-dev] Re: Pattern Matching performance

2018-03-17 Thread Cassio Pennachin
I believe this thread has run way past its useful course, and suggest we kill it. On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 3:40 PM, Linas Vepstas wrote: > > > On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 11:00 PM, Alexey Potapov > wrote: > >> This discussion seems senseless. You

Re: [opencog-dev] Re: Pattern Matching performance

2018-03-17 Thread Linas Vepstas
On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 11:00 PM, Alexey Potapov wrote: > This discussion seems senseless. You literally said: "No human can > remember 1 of anything whatsoever". Now, you said that words don't > belong to the category of "anything whatsoever". Words have meaning, >

Re: [opencog-dev] Re: Pattern Matching performance

2018-03-17 Thread Linas Vepstas
On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 10:56 PM, Ben Goertzel wrote: > This thread has gone a weird-ass direction... > > Of course an adult human knows way more than 10K things but I don't > Oh come on Ben. Of course a single human cannot know that much. That's an absurdity. Humans are

Re: [opencog-dev] Re: Pattern Matching performance

2018-03-17 Thread Ben Goertzel
*** The limit of human knowledge is somewhere near there. Most humans do not contain more than 10 or 20 books of knowledge; geniuses might get up to 100 or maybe more. But that's the limit. Figure maybe ten pages per topic or concept, and that is the limit of how much one person can know (over a

Re: [opencog-dev] Re: Pattern Matching performance

2018-03-17 Thread Linas Vepstas
To be clear: when I say "knowing things", I mean "concepts". Think of "dogs", and writing down everything you know about dogs. I suppose that could fill at least 2 pages, maybe 10 pages of writing, and then you've exhausted everything you know about dogs. That would count as "knowing one thing"

Re: [opencog-dev] Re: Pattern Matching performance

2018-03-17 Thread Alexey Potapov
This discussion seems senseless. You literally said: "No human can remember 1 of anything whatsoever". Now, you said that words don't belong to the category of "anything whatsoever". Words have meaning, spelling, pronunciation. Each Chinese character has the specific stroke order. There are

Re: [opencog-dev] Re: Pattern Matching performance

2018-03-17 Thread Ben Goertzel
This thread has gone a weird-ass direction... Of course an adult human knows way more than 10K things but I don't even have time just now to scroll up and see how the conversation got here !!! On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 10:30 PM, Linas Vepstas wrote: > ?? > > I'm pretty

Re: [opencog-dev] Re: Pattern Matching performance

2018-03-17 Thread Linas Vepstas
?? I'm pretty sure I know a lot more than 1 words. That is not at all comparable to knowing 1 things. Knowing 2 words is comparable to knowing maybe 500 things. How, exactly, are you measuring knowledge? --linas On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 3:47 PM, Alexey Potapov

Re: [opencog-dev] Re: Pattern Matching performance

2018-03-17 Thread Alexey Potapov
> > > No human can remember 1 of anything whatsoever. The human brain is > just simply not that big. > Please, stop making such stupid claims. This is so obviously wrong that I'm not sure if there is any sense to argue. "No human", "1 of anything", "not that big"??? I will not refer to

Re: [opencog-dev] Re: Pattern Matching performance

2018-03-17 Thread Linas Vepstas
On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 6:20 PM, Alexey Potapov wrote: > > >> And forget the 10 thousand number. No human can do that, not from memory. >> > > I guess you are wrong. There are people who can recall any of 1 go > games. > That's total bullshit. Its the Japanese