Re: [opencog-dev] Re: OpenCV for preliminary visual processing?

2017-01-21 Thread Ben Goertzel
Hmm, I'll think about this, thx... In a way, I wonder if this is related to what InfoGAN does, with its latent variables that need to have high mutual information with the state of the NN modeling the data.. more later... On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 9:53 AM, Linas Vepstas wrote: > I don't think I e

Re: [opencog-dev] Re: OpenCV for preliminary visual processing?

2017-01-20 Thread Ralf M.
Hey Noah, >> On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 11:37:31 AM UTC-4, Noah Bliss wrote: >> I understand an issue recently discussed with embodiment concerns >> methods for processing visual input. It's well known that at this time >> sending raw video into atomspace is a bad idea and that humans have b

Re: [opencog-dev] Re: OpenCV for preliminary visual processing?

2017-01-20 Thread Linas Vepstas
I don't think I ever spoke very carefully to Ralf about this, nor am I sure that the seed I tried to plant ever germinated in Ben's head, so let me restart from scratch. Perhaps this is something Noah could work on? For simplicity, let me work with sound, because its 1D (as a time series) not 2D

Re: [opencog-dev] Re: OpenCV for preliminary visual processing?

2017-01-20 Thread Noah Bliss
Ben, Sounds good, I would definitely be interested. Seems pretty ambitious but no one ever achieved great things by aiming low. I noticed Ralf was CC'd in this topic so if he could reach out I am available on all major platforms and while I may spend most of my initial time learning and "looking o

Re: [opencog-dev] Re: OpenCV for preliminary visual processing?

2017-01-20 Thread Ben Goertzel
Noah, What Ralf is working on is making a "DeStin-like" visual processing hierarchy in Tensorflow, probably using InfoGAN as a key ingredient (within each "DESTIN-like node"), and then integrating this hierarchy with OpenCog so that OpenCog can be used to recognize semantic patterns in the state o

Re: [opencog-dev] Re: OpenCV for preliminary visual processing?

2017-01-18 Thread Ben Goertzel
Ralf Mayet in HK is working on an approach such as you describe... help would be valued ... more later... On Jan 18, 2017 14:15, "Noah Bliss" wrote: > College has kept me busy but I finally took the time to go through the > pivision code on the hansonrobotics github. Correct me if I am wrong, bu

[opencog-dev] Re: OpenCV for preliminary visual processing?

2017-01-18 Thread Noah Bliss
College has kept me busy but I finally took the time to go through the pivision code on the hansonrobotics github. Correct me if I am wrong, but I saw no integration of visual information being fed into opencog, at least not directly. I don't know what kind of chewing ROS does to the information

[opencog-dev] Re: OpenCV for preliminary visual processing?

2016-09-20 Thread Noah Bliss
Afterthought: Checked out Kinfu, looks to do something quite similar. I am somewhat concerned about the resolution currently offered though. I'll see if there is a way to scale it down to simpler objects for easier atomspace digging and verification. Otherwise I do understand the draw of Kinfu.

[opencog-dev] Re: OpenCV for preliminary visual processing?

2016-09-20 Thread Noah Bliss
I was reflecting on your email Ben... I agree, arbitrarily segmenting a blob into predefined sections for processing may not be the best focus of this long-term. Perhaps for a small region this would be useful. (e.g. "What color is the object I am holding?" Then it would be able to set an arbit