Archetype vs. ontology

2004-11-24 Thread Carl Mattocks
HI GF : Do you agree that this can also be true for an Ontology . carl quote who=Gerard Freriks Hi, An other property of the Archetype is that it is derived from a a model that models the structure via which information is stored/represented/ retrieved in a system. GF -- private --

Archetype vs. ontology

2004-11-24 Thread Gerard Freriks
Hi, I can buy this. But have you ever seen the UML model behind ICD, ICPC, or even SNOMED? I know I;ve seen the one behind the CEN/TC251 EN 13606 where a kernel model (UML) representing a generic document will be populated by Archetypes that are derived from a Archetype model (UML). Gerard

Archetype vs. ontology

2004-11-24 Thread Carl Mattocks
Gerard : Good point. I would like to see the UML models .. does anyone have them to share ? carl quote who=Gerard Freriks Hi, I can buy this. But have you ever seen the UML model behind ICD, ICPC, or even SNOMED? I know I;ve seen the one behind the CEN/TC251 EN 13606 where a kernel model

Archetype vs. ontology

2004-11-23 Thread Sam Heard
Philippe Thank you for this...very informative and I am starting to see how we are converging with your work. I believe that the 'structured terminology' - fils guide down from the archetype nodes - is an important part - SNOMED are trying to address it generically (ie without archetypes) -

Archetype vs. ontology

2004-11-23 Thread Philippe AMELINE
Hi Sam, The structured langage is not a direct mapping from natural langage. It is a tree of concepts ordered from generic to specific. Example (sorry if I don't use the proper medical terms in english) : polyp -- location left colon -- size 3 mm -- aspect pedonculated This

Archetype vs. ontology

2004-11-23 Thread Carl Mattocks
Philippe, Sam et Al : Seeking clarification .. Is it true to say : the real distinction between an Archetype and an Ontology is that - the role of an Archetype (item) is to provide contextual constraints the role of an Ontology (item) is to provide conceptual constraints an Ontology (item)

Archetype vs. ontology

2004-11-23 Thread Gerard Freriks
Hi, An other property of the Archetype is that it is derived from a a model that models the structure via which information is stored/represented/ retrieved in a system. GF -- private -- Gerard Freriks, arts Huigsloterdijk 378 2158 LR Buitenkaag The Netherlands +31 252 544896 +31 654

Archetype vs. ontology

2004-11-15 Thread Thomas Beale
b.cohen wrote: I was responding to the original message from Chris Feahr, to which Gerard had already responded, which was indeed calling for a universal ontology. But the issue here is what to do about enterprises that have to live with ontological variety. If standards can't make the problem go