Representing binary values with DV_BOOLEAN

2011-02-10 Thread rjsea...@gmail.com
All, I'd like to offer a view on this topic. While I have an, as yet, brief involvement into this field of health informatics, I have been involved in 'informatics' outside of health for many years, although that term is not used much outside of healthcare it is a very similar practice. So I'd

Representing binary values with DV_BOOLEAN

2011-02-10 Thread Seabury Tom (NHS CONNECTING FOR HEALTH)
-bounces at openehr.org [mailto:openehr-technical-boun...@openehr.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Beale Sent: 09 February 2011 17:30 To: openehr-technical at openehr.org Subject: Re: Representing binary values with DV_BOOLEAN On 09/02/2011 15:05, pablo pazos wrote: I agree with you Thomas but there's always

Representing binary values with DV_BOOLEAN

2011-02-10 Thread Stef Verlinden
And it's to simplistic too. In that case one also would like to know allergic to which specific type(s) and/or components of penicillin. In that case I also would like to know how that was tested, when and who did that etc., etc. So I guess what's I'm trying to say is: What's the value of such

Representing binary values with DV_BOOLEAN

2011-02-10 Thread Erik Sundvall
Hi! On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 19:03, Ian McNicoll Ian.McNicoll at oceaninformatics.com wrote: I very rarely now use DV_BOOLEAN when modelling but agree that using DV_TEXT/CODE_TEXT is a pain to map to a checkbox/radiobutton GUI. Unless you reduce that mapping pain by having nice

Representing binary values with DV_BOOLEAN

2011-02-09 Thread Ian McNicoll
I should have added that this is not an openEHR issue but applies to the whole of health informatics and would, IMO, make an excellent subject for a PhD. We badly need the kind of academic analysis equivalent to Alan Rector's work on the 'clinical statement' pattern which underpins most of SNOMED,

Representing binary values with DV_BOOLEAN

2011-02-09 Thread Stef Verlinden
To make thing even more complicated (we discussed this already some years ago) the question should be: Does the patient have diabetes according to the definition used commonly in this practice/ hospital/ county/ country/ part of the world. Don't remember it exactly but back then I could easily

Representing binary values with DV_BOOLEAN

2011-02-02 Thread Diego Boscá
Is much different to change the field from 'test result:positive/negative' to 'test result positive:true/false'? If the semantics if not the same then the 'positive/negative' has more meaning that a simple boolean and I think they should be coded 2011/2/2 Koray Atalag k.atalag at auckland.ac.nz:

Representing binary values with DV_BOOLEAN

2011-02-02 Thread Erik Sundvall
Hi! Good points from both of you, I just want to add a thought. When designing or locally adapting GUIs I think it can be valuable to have the option to use radio-buttons (or widgets with similar visibility and semantics) also for DV_CODED_TEXT items if you know that the number of options are

Representing binary values with DV_BOOLEAN

2011-02-02 Thread Koray Atalag
? Cheers, -koray -Original Message- From: openehr-technical-bounces at openehr.org [mailto:openehr-technical-boun...@openehr.org] On Behalf Of Diego Bosc? Sent: Wednesday, 2 February 2011 4:28 p.m. To: For openEHR technical discussions Subject: Re: Representing binary values with DV_BOOLEAN

Representing binary values with DV_BOOLEAN

2011-02-02 Thread Fabiane Bizinella Nardon
I came across this problem several times. It became almost impossible to use DV_BOOLEAN. The worst problem is that since DV_BOOLEAN has to be always true or false, if someone simply does not fill the field, it became immediately false, which almost always was not what the user wanted. The

Representing binary values with DV_BOOLEAN

2011-02-02 Thread Diego Boscá
That seems a clear 'null flavour' use case 2011/2/2 Fabiane Bizinella Nardon fabiane at tridedalo.com.br: I came across this problem several times. It became almost impossible to use DV_BOOLEAN. The worst problem is that since DV_BOOLEAN has to be always true or false, if someone simply does

Representing binary values with DV_BOOLEAN

2011-02-02 Thread Thomas Beale
/Philosophical issues/ We have to be very careful with what can be modelled using Booleans and what cannot be. If a lab is returning results whose values (the values they provide, not you, the receiver!) can include Positive/Negative/Indeterminate, this is not a boolean situation, it is

Representing binary values with DV_BOOLEAN

2011-02-02 Thread pablo pazos
://uy.linkedin.com/in/pablopazosgutierrez Blog: http://informatica-medica.blogspot.com/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/ppazos Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 14:59:02 +0100 Subject: Re: Representing binary values with DV_BOOLEAN From: erik.sundvall at liu.se To: openehr-technical at openehr.org On Wed, Feb