openEHR Subversion = Github move progress

2013-05-03 Thread Koray Atalag
Hey that?s really awesome! Cheers, -koray From: openEHR-technical [mailto:openehr-technical-boun...@lists.openehr.org] On Behalf Of Roger Erens Sent: Saturday, 13 April 2013 11:44 a.m. To: For openEHR technical discussions Subject: Re: openEHR Subversion = Github move progress Hey

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2013-04-13 Thread Peter Gummer
Bert Verhees wrote: And of course, good non-GUI-building archetype-editors which are still not there, the complains I had about the both mainstream archetype-editors were admitted, but the improvement did not yet come. Hi Bert, I remember that you described some inconsistencies on one of

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2013-04-08 Thread Thomas Beale
I am always somewhat surprised as well. Thanks by the way for your clarifying notes, that is exactly how I would summarise the discussions. - thomas On 07/04/2013 22:08, Randolph Neall wrote: Hi Thomas, I'm surprised that at this advanced stage of openEHR's maturity you'd still have to

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2013-04-08 Thread Randolph Neall
There is always a meta-architecture. It's just a question of whether system builders are conscious of it. Thomas, perhaps you don't intend humor, but gems like this are what make reading your posts both enlightening and entertaining, even for someone at my distance. On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 8:06

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2013-04-07 Thread Thomas Beale
[This is Tim again, initially bounced] And that is the issue, and what is at the root of this dispute. Tim does not see the point of specialization or redefinition, which, in my opinion, is why he can hold forth so strongly for XML. Randy Neall You are mostly correct. It isn't that I

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2013-04-07 Thread Thomas Beale
On 06/04/2013 23:50, Thomas Beale wrote: [This is Tim again, initially bounced] And that is the issue, and what is at the root of this dispute. Tim does not see the point of specialization or redefinition, which, in my opinion, is why he can hold forth so strongly for XML. Randy Neall You

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2013-04-07 Thread Thomas Beale
On 06/04/2013 23:50, Thomas Beale wrote: [This is Tim again, initially bounced] And that is the issue, and what is at the root of this dispute. Tim does not see the point of specialization or redefinition, which, in my opinion, is why he can hold forth so strongly for XML. Randy Neall You

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2013-04-07 Thread Thomas Beale
On 07/04/2013 00:35, Bert Verhees wrote: That's expedient, but it's also a guarantee of non-interoperability. As far as I can see, also from my experience, nor OpenEHR, nor MLHIM will be the only datamodel system on the world. Cooperation with other systems will always need a message-format.

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2013-04-07 Thread Thomas Beale
On 07/04/2013 12:11, Grahame Grieve wrote: Hi Tom You ask: Is there a better meta-architecture available? When actually the question at hand appears to be: is it even worth having one? I don't think that this is a question with a technical answer. It's a question of what you are

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2013-04-07 Thread Bert Verhees
On 04/07/2013 10:40 AM, Thomas Beale wrote: Is there a better meta-architecture available? I think is a very good architecture, that is why I am using it, but I(we) keep having to deal with people who think otherwise. I am not smart enough to point out why HL7v3 messaging is good or bad, or

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2013-04-06 Thread Thomas Beale
On 05/04/2013 13:03, Thomas Beale wrote: [original post by Tim bounced; reposting manually for him] On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Thomas Beale thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com wrote: if you mean the competing inheritance models - I have yet to meet any XML specialist who thinks

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2013-04-06 Thread Randolph Neall
Hi Tim There is no need for specialisation or redefinition in MLHIM. Concept Constraint Definitions (CCDS) are immutable once published. In conjunction with their included Reference Model version they endure in order to remain as the model for that instance data. Unlike you, I believe that the

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2013-04-05 Thread Peter Gummer
Tim Cook wrote: On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 8:40 AM, Ian McNicoll Ian.McNicoll at oceaninformatics.com wrote: You are conflating two quite different issues. I don't think so. I demonstrated what the specifications have to say on the matter. Then pointed out that an internationally

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2013-04-05 Thread Timothy W. Cook
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Thomas Beale thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com wrote: [original post by Tim bounced; reposting manually for him] Thanks Tom. I probably posted with the incorrect email address again. Arrrgh, organizing the simple things is difficult. --Tim

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2013-04-05 Thread Randolph Neall
Cook: There is no need for specialisation or redefinition in MLHIM. Concept Constraint Definitions (CCDS) are immutable once published. In conjunction with their included Reference Model version they endure in order to remain as the model for that instance data. Unlike you, I believe that the

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2013-04-04 Thread Thomas Beale
On 04/04/2013 12:09, Tim Cook wrote: well, since the primary openEHR projects are in Java, Ruby, C#, PHP, etc, I don't see where the disconnect between the projects and the talent pool is. I think if you look at the 'who is using it' pages, and also the openEHR Github projects, you won't find

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2013-04-04 Thread Ian McNicoll
Hi Tim, I will leave the XML vs. ADL aspects for others to discuss and address your comments re namespacing. I think we all agree that openEHR artefacts need proper identification control, almost certainly something like namespacing. Some draft suggestions have been made and are carried on

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2013-03-29 Thread Thomas Beale
On 29/03/2013 14:15, Tim Cook wrote: Hi Tom, I have amended the Subject Line since the thread has diverged a bit. [comments inline] On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Thomas Beale thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com wrote: one of the problems with LinkEHR (which does have many good

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2013-03-29 Thread Thomas Beale
On 29/03/2013 16:19, Thomas Beale wrote: Hi Tim, I don't see any problem here. The extant open 'reference implementation' of openEHR has been in Java for years now, and secondarily in Ruby (openEHR.jp http://openehr.jp/) and C# (codeplex.com http://openehr.codeplex.com/). The original

openEHR Subversion = Github move progress

2013-03-25 Thread Erik Sundvall
Hi! Apache as something called The Apache Attic for unmaintained old projects in order to keep the code/assets somewhere, see http://attic.apache.org/Perhaps we could simply have an openEHR attic project at github where each unmaintained previous project gets a sub-directory-tree. Would creating

openEHR Subversion = Github move progress

2013-03-22 Thread Thomas Beale
The last of what I think are the active Subversion repositories on the old openEHR.org server has been converted to GitHub now (the Archetype Editor). Repositories which appear to be inactive but could be converted if anyone wants: * liu_knowledge_tools (Linkoping has a more recent version