informal poll: openEHR conference
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Hi all, Hugh Leslie is now out of Wave invitations but if you have already emailed him they will have been handled. I have a few more to give out so if you have not yet contacted Hugh, please send me an email and I will send an invite If anyone else has more to give out, please let me know and I can hand over to you when I run out - nice sort of chain invitation process ;-) Ian Dr Ian McNicoll office / fax +44(0)141 560 4657 mobile +44 (0)775 209 7859 skype ianmcnicoll ian.mcnicoll at oceaninformatics.com ian at mcmi.co.uk Clinical Analyst Ocean Informatics openEHR Archetype Editorial Group Member BCS Primary Health Care SG Group www.phcsg.org / BCS Health Scotland -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/private/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org/attachments/20091202/85ddcf9c/attachment.html
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Dear Ian, I have some invitations to share. Regards, Kruy Vanna Graduate School of Global Information and Telecommunication Studies, Waseda University - - - - - - - - - - - - - On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Ian McNicoll Ian.McNicoll at oceaninformatics.com wrote: Hi all, Hugh Leslie is now out of Wave invitations but if you have already emailed him they will have been handled. I have a few more to give out so if you have not yet contacted Hugh, please send me an email and I will send an invite If anyone else has more to give out, please let me know and I can hand over to you when I run out - nice sort of chain invitation process ;-) Ian Dr Ian McNicoll office / fax +44(0)141 560 4657 mobile +44 (0)775 209 7859 skype ianmcnicoll ian.mcnicoll at oceaninformatics.com ian at mcmi.co.uk Clinical Analyst Ocean Informatics openEHR Archetype Editorial Group Member BCS Primary Health Care SG Group www.phcsg.org / BCS Health Scotland ___ openEHR-technical mailing list openEHR-technical at openehr.org http://lists.chime.ucl.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/private/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org/attachments/20091202/f5214250/attachment.html
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Hi Ian. Please send me an invitation Regards Carlos. LogoSAS_DRRI.jpg Carlos Lu?s Parra Calder?n Responsable del Grupo de Innovaci?n Tecnol?gica Hospitales Universitarios Virgen del Roc?o Avda. Manuel Siurot, s/n Sevilla 41013 Tel?fono: 697954864 / 754864 E-mail: carlos.parra.sspa at juntadeandalucia.es mailto:carlos.parra.sspa at juntadeandalucia.es Este mensaje y, en su caso, los ficheros adjuntos contienen informaci?n confidencial cuya utilizaci?n, divulgaci?n, distribuci?n o reproducci?n est? prohibida, pudiendo su uso ser constitutivo de infracci?n. Si no es Ud. el destinatario del mensaje, le ruego lo destruya sin hacer copia digital o f?sica, comunicando a HOSPITALES UNIVERSITARIOS VIRGEN DEL ROC?O v?a e-mail o fax la recepci?n del presente mensaje. Toda declaraci?n de voluntad contenida deber? ser tenida por no producida. Gracias Carlos Luis Parra Calder?n Head of Technological Innovation Team University Hospitals Virgen del Roc?o Avda. Manuel Siurot, s/n 41013 Seville Spain Telephone: +34697954864 E-mail: mailto:carlos.parra.sspa at juntadeandalucia.es carlos.parra.sspa at juntadeandalucia.es This message and any enclosed files contain confidential information whose utilization, dissemination, distribution or reproduction is strictly forbidden. Said utilization could be considered an offence. If you are not the formal receiver of this message please destroy it without making any digital or physical copy and inform HOSPITALES UNIVERSITARIOS VIRGEN DEL ROC?O , by e-mail or fax, of the reception of the present message. Any whatsoever involuntary declaration contained herewith must be taken as having no legal effect. Thank you. _ De: openehr-technical-bounces at chime.ucl.ac.uk [mailto:openehr-technical-bounces at chime.ucl.ac.uk] En nombre de Ian McNicoll Enviado el: mi?rcoles, 02 de diciembre de 2009 1:51 Para: For openEHR technical discussions; For openEHR clinical discussions Asunto: Google Wave invitations Hi all, Hugh Leslie is now out of Wave invitations but if you have already emailed him they will have been handled. I have a few more to give out so if you have not yet contacted Hugh, please send me an email and I will send an invite If anyone else has more to give out, please let me know and I can hand over to you when I run out - nice sort of chain invitation process ;-) Ian Dr Ian McNicoll office / fax +44(0)141 560 4657 mobile +44 (0)775 209 7859 skype ianmcnicoll ian.mcnicoll at oceaninformatics.com mailto:ian.mcnicoll at oceaninformatics.com ian at mcmi.co.uk mailto:ian at mcmi.co.uk Clinical Analyst Ocean Informatics openEHR Archetype Editorial Group Member BCS Primary Health Care SG Group www.phcsg.org http://www.phcsg.org / BCS Health Scotland -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/private/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org/attachments/20091202/c422aa01/attachment.html -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: attce2a1.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 4198 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/private/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org/attachments/20091202/c422aa01/attachment.jpg
informal poll: openEHR conference
How about Stockholm? Close to nature (nice lakes etc) and good railway systems, plus a quite bit openEHR use here =) Cheers, Rong 2009/12/2 Thilo Schuler thilo.schuler at gmail.com: I like VB, but the trains are not very reliable... ;) On 12/2/09, Hugh Leslie hugh.leslie at oceaninformatics.com wrote: I was thinking Melbourne...? We have good beer here and we are not far from a train station... :) On 2/12/2009 9:25 AM, Ian McNicoll wrote: Central Europe (and beer) sounds a good match to me :-) Certainly Amsterdam would be good from the perspective of easy transport. Ian Dr Ian McNicoll office / fax ?+44(0)141 560 4657 mobile +44 (0)775 209 7859 skype ianmcnicoll ian.mcnicoll at oceaninformatics.com ian at mcmi.co.uk Clinical Analyst ?Ocean Informatics openEHR Archetype Editorial Group Member BCS Primary Health Care SG Group www.phcsg.org / BCS Health Scotland 2009/12/1 Thilo Schuler thilo.schuler at gmail.com +2 Amsterdam or anywhere in central EU is fine. I am a strong believer in social activities. They could even involve beer... ;) Cheers (what else could I say but this universal word) -thilo On 12/1/09, Stef Verlinden stef at vivici.nl wrote: +1 (but any other location where we can have both a good meeting and a good social event will do). I like the train suggestion. Cheers, Stef Op 29 nov 2009, om 00:49 heeft Koray Atalag het volgende geschreven: Hi Tom, having such a social get together would be very niceI'd vote for Amsterdam :) Cheers, -koray From: openehr-technical-bounces at chime.ucl.ac.uk [openehr-technical- bounces at chime.ucl.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Thomas Beale [thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com] Sent: Sunday, 29 November 2009 8:57 a.m. To: For openEHR technical discussions Subject: Re: informal poll: openEHR conference I forgot to mention: personally I would like it to be an environmentally conscious event (in as much as any conference could be), and one thing I would at least try for is a destination that allow many people to go by train rather than by plane. Sam and I once did London - Maastricht (which by the way is also a good location) on the train in 7.5h (1.5h wait in Brussels) compared to what we calculated as 5h by plane. But we got 6h work done, and 1h drinking Belgian beer. I consider that a successful journey. Of course not much can be done about long haul flying from the US and down-under. Another priority for me would be the idea that it would not repeat every few months like standards meetings, maybe not even every year (a bi-annual event maybe?) - so we could afford to spend some time together as a community. Also, I would put as much value on the networking and social side of things as on the 'business of openEHR' - which means finding a nice destination, one that works perfectly well if people want to have a holiday, with kids, partners etc. The cost might also be an important consideration for most people, although if it were say every 2 years, it may not matter as much as for standards meetings which just keep happening. these are just personal thoughts; it could only happen if enough people in the community would sign up to the idea to make it viable. - thomas beale Mikael Nystr?m wrote: I guess that the social activities would be quite important for the community and they are hard to organize on airports and train stations. I therefore vote for other locations than airports and train stations. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Greetings, ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Mikael From: openehr-technical-bounces at chime.ucl.ac.ukmailto:openehr-technical-bounces at chime.ucl.ac.uk [mailto:openehr-technical-bounces at chime.ucl.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Bert Verhees Sent: den 27 november 2009 17:38 To: openehr-technical at openehr.orgmailto:openehr- technical at openehr.org Subject: Re: informal poll: openEHR conference An international airport/train station nearby would be good, it saves days of traveling. Bert Op 27-11-09 17:25, Thomas Beale schreef: This is an initial informal question to the community about interest in an openEHR conference / meeting, probably initially located in Europe. Possibly activities: * ? presentations / papers on commercial academic projects * ? technical working design sessions for major upcoming specifications * ? clinical modelling design sessions / presentations / discussions / debates * ? meetings aimed at making decisions about the running governance of openEHR, enabling future organisational improvement * ? professional and academic networking activities * ? some purely social activities. purely as an example of a nice location at which social and outdoor activities can take place, Lake Bled in Slovenia has been suggested, of course there are many other wonderful locations. I have heard
informal poll: openEHR conference
If we can't make it to Iceland, i'd like to go to Stockholm and see openEHR in action ;-) brgds Hans Rong Chen schrieb: How about Stockholm? Close to nature (nice lakes etc) and good railway systems, plus a quite bit openEHR use here =) Cheers, Rong -- Hans Demski Institut f?r Biologische und Medizinische Bildgebung - MEDIS Tel.: 089-3187-4179 *Helmholtz Zentrum M?nchen Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r Gesundheit und Umwelt (GmbH)* Ingolst?dter Landstr. 1 85764 Neuherberg _www.helmholtz-muenchen.de http://www.helmholtz-muenchen.de/_ Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: MinDir Dr. Peter Lange Gesch?ftsf?hrer: Prof. Dr. G?nther Wess und Dr. Nikolaus Blum Registergericht: Amtsgericht M?nchen HRB 6466 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/private/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org/attachments/20091202/b7727558/attachment.html
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Hello Ian, please send me an invitation. Best Regards, Arturo Alvestegui De: openehr-technical-bounces at chime.ucl.ac.uk [mailto:openehr-technical-bounces at chime.ucl.ac.uk] En nombre de Ian McNicoll Enviado el: martes, 01 de diciembre de 2009 21:51 Para: For openEHR technical discussions; For openEHR clinical discussions Asunto: Google Wave invitations Hi all, Hugh Leslie is now out of Wave invitations but if you have already emailed him they will have been handled. I have a few more to give out so if you have not yet contacted Hugh, please send me an email and I will send an invite If anyone else has more to give out, please let me know and I can hand over to you when I run out - nice sort of chain invitation process ;-) Ian Dr Ian McNicoll office / fax +44(0)141 560 4657 mobile +44 (0)775 209 7859 skype ianmcnicoll ian.mcnicoll at oceaninformatics.com ian at mcmi.co.uk Clinical Analyst Ocean Informatics openEHR Archetype Editorial Group Member BCS Primary Health Care SG Group www.phcsg.org / BCS Health Scotland -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/private/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org/attachments/20091202/e01fbb8d/attachment.html
informal poll: openEHR conference
Although first place of the openEHR conference will be located in Europe, we will bit the host of the second openEHR conference in Japan. Railways are much reliable anywhere. We have good cuisine, good beer, sushi, sake, safe city, and good technology. We can stream the conference via the Internet. But JPY is appriciating too rapid now. too bad for international conference. Otherwise, we had a seminar mainly about the openEHR. It gathered more than 50 people and students in Japan from 9 countries. http://openehr.jp/news/show/10 We would also like to have a pan-pacific meeting. -- KOBAYASHI, Shinji skoba at moss.gr.jp
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On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 22:32:21 +0100 Roger Erens roger.erens at e-s-c.biz wrote: Hi Shinji, What is 'virtual time flow'? In this scenario, it takes more than three month or year in real time. It is not efficient. In this connectathon, I have assumed participants exchange records that have ranged time, more than three month, within some minutes For example, ? ?Real time ? ? ? ? record ? ? ? recorded time i) ?09:00 ? ? ? ? ? ? Event1 ? ? ? 2008-11-22T10:15:43Z ii) 09:01 ? ? ? ? ? ? Event2 ? ? ? 2008-12-11T09:22:10Z Aha. I assumed that a health application would determine the 'recorded time' directly based on the 'Real time' (workstation's system clock). Here you seem to 'fabricate' a recorded time. Do you use only real data in any test phases? As your example, 0) Adjust all workstation using NTP server There seems to be no reason for this, if we don't have to keep our workstations in synch. 1) Tim send me the file recorded 'event1', '2009-10-30T12:18:11BST' 2) I received file and record it after change BST to UTC 'event1, '2009-10-30T09:18Z' and record with timestamp. 3) I send Tim with the file recorded 'event2', '2010-01-22T01:22:22JST' So you change the datetime on your workstation independently of the other workstations, right? I cannot understand what you meant in 'independently'. For some authentication procedure, we need to sync date tome on our workstation. So wee need 0). I think the time in record, when the event happened, does not depend on the clock of the workstation. But the time the event was recorded does, see my assumption above. Do you mean 'my workstation change intrinsic clock to other datetime than the other wokrstation' or 'my workstation record the data with its own timestamp'? Sorry, I could not understand. Because data exchange is not always simultaneous and data record does not progress just on time. 4) Tim receive the file and record 'event2', the time may be changed to UTC/BST with timestamp. Each system generate sample records before connectathon. Before? That's to test the whole setup before the connect-a-thon, right? Connectathon is intersystem integration test. Data generation should be tested before connectathon as unit test. Ah, OK. I was almost led to believe that, during the connect-a-thon, you wanted to exchange records that were fabricated before the connect-a-thon :-\ I am sorry but we cannot use fully real data in test. -- KOBAYASHI, Shinji skoba at moss.gr.jp
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On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 14:33, KOBAYASHI, Shinji skoba at moss.gr.jp wrote: On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 22:32:21 +0100 Roger Erens roger.erens at e-s-c.biz wrote: Hi Shinji, What is 'virtual time flow'? In this scenario, it takes more than three month or year in real time. It is not efficient. In this connectathon, I have assumed participants exchange records that have ranged time, more than three month, within some minutes For example, ? ?Real time ? ? ? ? record ? ? ? recorded time i) ?09:00 ? ? ? ? ? ? Event1 ? ? ? 2008-11-22T10:15:43Z ii) 09:01 ? ? ? ? ? ? Event2 ? ? ? 2008-12-11T09:22:10Z Aha. I assumed that a health application would determine the 'recorded time' directly based on the 'Real time' (workstation's system clock). Here you seem to 'fabricate' a recorded time. Do you use only real data in any test phases? Well, it depends. If it is a test geared towards a programmer, e.g. unit tests, the data does not have to be real. (For example a person called A Aaa, born on 1-1-'1, because this helps in entering some data quickly) But if the test is geared towards an end-user, like I presumed the connect-a-thon to be, I think we should use as much as possible real data within the health applications. Simulation of data should be kept as much as possible outside the application. For the date-times that get recorded, that would mean manipulating the system clock. As your example, 0) Adjust all workstation using NTP server There seems to be no reason for this, if we don't have to keep our workstations in synch. 1) Tim send me the file recorded 'event1', '2009-10-30T12:18:11BST' 2) I received file and record it after change BST to UTC 'event1, '2009-10-30T09:18Z' and record with timestamp. 3) I send Tim with the file recorded 'event2', '2010-01-22T01:22:22JST' So you change the datetime on your workstation independently of the other workstations, right? I cannot understand what you meant in 'independently'. For some authentication procedure, we need to sync date tome on our workstation. So wee need 0). I think the time in record, when the event happened, does not depend on the clock of the workstation. But the time the event was recorded does, see my assumption above. I'm not a native English speaker, too, so I have to interpret the choices you give me below: Do you mean 'my workstation change intrinsic clock to other datetime than the other wokrstation' If this means 'change the system date of your workstation (on linux using the command 'date' for this) and let the other workstations synch with your workstation via e.g. the NTP-protocol': yes. This system time is used for the 'recorded time' by the health application when the end-user hits the save button after he entered the medical data, including the 'time that the medical event happened'. So the former time should be 'real', the latter time may be 'constructed'. or 'my workstation record the data with its own timestamp'? Sorry, I could not understand. If this means record the data with both the 'date it happened' and 'date it was recorded' constructed: no. Because data exchange is not always simultaneous and data record does not progress just on time. 4) Tim receive the file and record 'event2', the time may be changed to UTC/BST with timestamp. Each system generate sample records before connectathon. Before? That's to test the whole setup before the connect-a-thon, right? Connectathon is intersystem integration test. Data generation should be tested before connectathon as unit test. Ah, OK. I was almost led to believe that, during the connect-a-thon, you wanted to exchange records that were fabricated before the connect-a-thon :-\ I am sorry but we cannot use fully real data in test. I agree that there needs to be some degree of simulation in it. But on second thought, I disagree with your definition of the connect-a-thon as an intersystem integration test. My understanding is that the connect-a-thon should be like a demo or show-case, with records created during the presentation. Its purpose: show non-openEHR-people that openEHR-based applications work together. The intersystem integration test should have been done before the connect-a-thon. Its purpose: show ourselves (the application builders/developers) that openEHR-based applications work together. Best regards, Roger
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On Thu, 2009-12-03 at 01:01 +0900, Vanna wrote: I swore I wasn't going to respond to this; but. While most of openEHR is Euro-centric. The reality is that the most obvious place ( outside of Asia) is to hold it in Natal, BR http://preview.tinyurl.com/3w54c It is close to everywhere (in relative terms) It is beautiful; year round.
openEHR community on Google Wave
Hi Erik Can you tell me what search capabilities you want in CKM that are not there. You can export a prot?g? ontology, all the archetypes and have all the search power we have thought of from the asset management platform. Unsearchable seems a little unfair. Cheers, Sam -Original Message- From: openehr-technical-bounces at chime.ucl.ac.uk [mailto:openehr- technical-bounces at chime.ucl.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Erik Sundvall Sent: 19 November 2009 09:35 To: For openEHR clinical discussions Cc: For openEHR technical discussions Subject: Re: openEHR community on Google Wave Hi! On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 06:48, Heather Leslie heather.leslie at oceaninformatics.com wrote: If I have caused any confusion, I apologise. I'm just enthusiastic and interested to further explore the potential (or not) offered by Google Wave. It is a very nice initiative Heather and there is no need to apologise, just a need to get the discussions out in open public searchable space (and that also goes for the currently unsearchable CKM). I believe that in a set of properly managed wave conversations it might be easier to follow the discussion flow, and it might be a less fragmented user experience than the current CKM is. If done right and when there are more wave providers than Google (since wave uses a truly open protocol) then we could at the same time get rid of the current CKM vendor lock-in and extension limitations (without creating another vendor lock in). While these initial 'coordinating waves' are public, small groups may go off and use a private Wave to work on a task or project - just like they do now using email, skype or IM. Yes of course some conversations (or parts of conversations) will always be private since humans prefer to work that way sometimes. The problem is if things are inaccessible and unsearchable even when there is no intention to keep the discussion private. The result should be identical - submitting the draft archetype to CKM or contributing to the email lists or wiki. If wave-based tools become widespread and powerful enough to do openEHR review, voting etc., then I don't see CKM as a necessary step in the pipeline to finally submitting archetypes/templates to simple stable repositories. Every shift of tools along the way adds a potential user confusion. By the way, have you tried using mindmapping gadgets for openEHR related development in wave, I found an open source mindmapping gadget that even includes a voting mechanism and freemind-import facilities at: http://wave-samples-gallery.appspot.com/about_app?app_id=64007 See also: http://www.brucecooper.net/2009/11/mind-map-gadget-for- google-wave.html And since the mindmapping gadget is open source it could easily be modified by any java/GWT developer to add features that you'd find useful for openEHR related use :-) Best regards, Erik Sundvall erik.sundvall at liu.se http://www.imt.liu.se/~erisu/ Tel: +46-13-286733 (Mail tel. recently changed, so please update your contact lists.) P.s. To add voting to suitable items (e.g. corresponding to when you use voting in CKM) it seems like http://wave-samples-gallery.appspot.com/about_app?app_id=23006 might be useful. I guess a proper discussion will often solve things without the need for voting though... ___ openEHR-technical mailing list openEHR-technical at openehr.org http://lists.chime.ucl.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical
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On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 14:40 +, Thomas Beale wrote: Hm, okay... BIG Picture here (do we have everyone's attention) not just the US and Western Europe? The reality is that Europe nor North America is the center of the world. Certainly population wise. While as a native US Citizen and a retired US Marine. I believe that I have served my country and the democratic free world well. Certainly; every single day with the weight upon my heart that I was doing the RIGHT THING. Some may not agree with that and I respect their opinions. But without regard to religion and only humanitarian results. I STAND BY MY DECISIONS! I spoke recently with Sam Heard and I am not sure where they (there was a closed door meeting) want to take the openEHR Foundation. It **IS** clear to me that they are confused about opensource/opencontent. **THEY** need to communicate with the community. Not this one on one crap meeting stuff. I'm frankly quite tired of it after almost 10 years. I hope that you all can engage them and give them a CLUE! --Tim -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/private/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org/attachments/20091202/add0b5ea/attachment.asc
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On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 17:54 +0100, Rikard L?vstr?m wrote: Hi Tim, You sent us a tinyurl with just: javascript:void(0) Well, see how well these Web 2.0 things work? :-) Here is the entire URL: http://maps.google.com.br/maps?q=natal +broe=utf-8rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:officialclient=firefox-aum=1ie=UTF-8hq=hnear=Natal+-+RNgl=brei=qZQWS6q6HZLOlAen_riRDwsa=Xoi=geocode_resultct=titleresnum=1ved=0CA8Q8gEwAA If that doesn't workyou are all smart enough to Google Natal, Rio Grandge do Norte, Brasil. You'll figure it out. If notwell, you are on the wrong mailing list anyway!!! :-) --Tim -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/private/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org/attachments/20091202/86df1549/attachment.asc
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Only my suggestio. I have nothing else to say on the matter. If it is not in SA; I will not attend w/o funding. The life of a lone consultant prevails :-) --Tim On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 19:00 +, Thomas Beale wrote: Brazil entered my mind as well. But I had not thought of going that far away from Rio SP; but you are right - if you look on the map, it is not too many hours flight from east coast US or most of Europe. The down side seems to be that there are no direct flights from London, which probably means the same for most other European countries ; only Lisbon has direct flights. But it does seem like an interesting candidate location. - thomas Tim Cook wrote: On Thu, 2009-12-03 at 01:01 +0900, Vanna wrote: I swore I wasn't going to respond to this; but. While most of openEHR is Euro-centric. The reality is that the most obvious place ( outside of Asia) is to hold it in Natal, BR http://preview.tinyurl.com/3w54c It is close to everywhere (in relative terms) It is beautiful; year round. From hiking to scuba you can enjoy. I've enjoyed Stockholm, Amsterdam and many other places. But they are so often weather dependent. Natal is closest to Africa/Europe in the Americas. It's not AS green of a trip as Tom wants. But are we really talking about a global community? Okay, we have a great opensource community (by law) here. Google FISL and PythonBrasil... Has YOUR President ever spoke at a free software conference? --Tim ___ openEHR-technical mailing list openEHR-technical at openehr.org http://lists.chime.ucl.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical -- Thomas Beale Chief Technology Officer, Ocean Informatics Chair Architectural Review Board, openEHR Foundation Honorary Research Fellow, University College London Chartered IT Professional Fellow, BCS, British Computer Society Health IT blog ___ openEHR-technical mailing list openEHR-technical at openehr.org http://lists.chime.ucl.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical -- *** Timothy Cook, MSc LinkedIn Profile:http://www.linkedin.com/in/timothywaynecook Skype ID == (upon request) Academic.Edu Profile: http://uff.academia.edu/TimothyCook You may get my Public GPG key from popular keyservers or from this link http://timothywayne.cook.googlepages.com/home -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/private/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org/attachments/20091202/9eb8815a/attachment.asc
openEHR community on Google Wave
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