I just wasn't thinking what I wrote this. In FHIR, a boolean data
type, primitive, is a
type that can be used in models an is exactly equivalent to DV_BOOLEAN.
but isn't the problem that it doesn't inherit from some DATA_VALUE parent
type (Any in HL7 data types)? How can it be one of the
Are discrete units only encountered in administrative directives? Do
you prohibit people from making observations or measurements that
include discrete units such as puffs, tablets, patches, vials, strips etc?
why?
HL7 does because we claim that you have to have UCUM codes
so the data can be
Hi Sam
Actually, this has come up in a couple of other places. The FHIR data types
are defined for use within the FHIR framework. There's two very important
parts of FHIR that influence the modeling of the data types:
* the FHIR take on extensibility
* the fact that all FHIR resources have a
FHIR has no such restriction - elements must have a type of one or more
of the defined types, either primitive or complex
ok, but how do w write a normal statically typed classes in Java or C# to
deal with that?
Many boolean elements are mandatory - they map straight onto the primitive
well it's not prevented from being expressed; it's just expressed using a
Quantity field (e.g. a DV_COUNT) and another field saying what you are
counting (there are a reasonable number of examples of this already in the
archetypes - number of cigarettes a day, number of previous pregnancies,
of a DiscretisedQuantity type inheriting from Quantity, which I think is also a
reasonable alternative.
what do others think?
- thomas
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Hi Heath
yes, this the problem.
I don't know if your solution works. I've considered putting a service
up in the cloud that
provides a service to take represented units and convert them to ucum
units. But it's a
many to many mapping unless the conversion is actually done in the context of a
Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone
Op 18 mrt. 2012 om 15:15 heeft Thomas Beale thomas.beale at
oceaninformatics.com het volgende geschreven:
I still think Quantities should be computable as such - if we don't know how
many mcg of substance 3 puffs is, we can't compute with it.
Although i tend to
Sorry about the XML slur :) Sam
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From: openehr-technical-bounces at lists.openehr.org [mailto:openehr-
technical-bounces at lists.openehr.org] On Behalf Of Grahame Grieve
Sent: Monday, 19 March 2012 8:16 AM
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Sorry about the XML slur :) Sam
sigh. I'll get over it. Eventually. At least you didn't claim I was
influenced by sql.
Grahame
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Hi Shinji
We could not get sponsorship for the conference, which is a shame. For that
reason it looks like that will not happen until we have Associates and some
core funding.
I would like to organise some Google handouts at different times each month
- probably 3/month suiting Asia,
Hi Shinji
We could not get sponsorship for the conference, which is a shame. For that
reason it looks like that will not happen until we have Associates and some
core funding.
I would like to organise some Google handouts at different times each month
- probably 3/month suiting Asia,
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Hi Diego
Rong has made this generally available - or it is in the download of the
archetype editor.
Cheers, Sam
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Hi Diego
Rong has made this generally available - or it is in the download of the
archetype editor.
Cheers, Sam
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Hi Tim
HL7 Twittered about making things more openly available the other
daydoes anyone have the link?
Cheers, Sam
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Sent: Thursday, 23
On 18/03/2012 21:45, Grahame Grieve wrote:
ok, so you say it should be computable, but then allow a fixed unit of one,
and some other code as well. And this in a subclass of Quantity, so you
could always use it or encounter it in place of quantity. So if that's the
case, why not simply make it
you'll still have to look, even though it's not many cases.
Grahame
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Thomas Beale
thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com wrote:
On 18/03/2012 21:45, Grahame Grieve wrote:
ok, so you say it should be computable, but then allow a fixed unit of
one,
and some
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with 90% (or
maybe its only 75%) of all clinical data.
- thomas
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We don't have an entry for openEHRGen either
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Hi Sam,
As regards to world-wide economic recession, getting fund for RD
is far difficult.
I am challenging some funds from our government or funds in Japan,
such as this.
http://www.jsps.go.jp/english/e-meeting/index.html
This fund aims to support conference in Japan, but I think it would be
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Graham,
I'm trying to make sense of this discussion around computability -- what
are the kinds of things that one wants to compute with these kinds of
countable things?
michael
On 18/03/12 10:57 PM, Grahame Grieve
grahame at healthintersections.com.au wrote:
Are discrete units only
for me, conversion between different units that are comparable. You
should ask Tom what else he thinks it yields up. I'd be interested.
Grahame
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Michael.Lawley at csiro.au wrote:
Graham,
I'm trying to make sense of this discussion around computability --
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Hi Linda,
I think your first example demonstrates why tablet is not a Unit -- I could
equally say:
2 Mountains of Paracetamol 500 mg + Codeine Phosphate 15mg Mountains
is therapeutically equivalent to
1 Mountain of Paracetamol 1g + Codeine Phosphate 30 mg Mountains
Really what I am
wrote:
Graham,
I'm trying to ...
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Well I'm still stuck trying to understand what you mean by 'computable'.
And, no, a clinician cannot prescribe (just) 2 tablets -- I cannot compare
that with 500 mg unless I know how much is in each tablet. Once you've told
me how much is in each tablet, then (from a computability
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The URL to the terminology file as part of a minimum terminology
service is here,
http://www.openehr.org/svn/ref_impl_java/TRUNK/mini-termserv/src/main/resources/openehr_terminology_en.xml
Cheers,
Rong
On 18 March 2012 23:32, Sam Heard sam.heard at oceaninformatics.com wrote:
Hi Diego
Rong has
Working Group, NHS Scotland
BCS Primary Health Care www.phcsg.org
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Dear all,
On s?n, 2012-03-18 at 13:57 +0100, Grahame Grieve wrote:
Are discrete units only encountered in administrative directives? Do
you prohibit people from making observations or measurements that
include discrete units such as puffs, tablets, patches, vials, strips etc?
There are
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