openEHR / FHIR data types cross analysis

2012-03-19 Thread Grahame Grieve
I just wasn't thinking what I wrote this. In FHIR, a boolean data type, primitive, is a type that can be used in models an is exactly equivalent to DV_BOOLEAN. but isn't the problem that it doesn't inherit from some DATA_VALUE parent type (Any in HL7 data types)? How can it be one of the

Units, Quantities, etc

2012-03-19 Thread Grahame Grieve
Are discrete units only encountered in administrative directives? Do you prohibit people from making observations or measurements that include discrete units such as puffs, tablets, patches, vials, strips etc? why? HL7 does because we claim that you have to have UCUM codes so the data can be

openEHR / FHIR data types cross analysis

2012-03-19 Thread Grahame Grieve
Hi Sam Actually, this has come up in a couple of other places. The FHIR data types are defined for use within the FHIR framework. There's two very important parts of FHIR that influence the modeling of the data types: * the FHIR take on extensibility * the fact that all FHIR resources have a

openEHR / FHIR data types cross analysis

2012-03-19 Thread Grahame Grieve
FHIR has no such restriction - elements must have a type of one or more of the defined types, either primitive or complex ok, but how do w write a normal statically typed classes in Java or C# to deal with that? Many boolean elements are mandatory - they map straight onto the primitive

Units, Quantities, etc

2012-03-19 Thread Grahame Grieve
well it's not prevented from being expressed; it's just expressed using a Quantity field (e.g. a DV_COUNT) and another field saying what you are counting (there are a reasonable number of examples of this already in the archetypes - number of cigarettes a day, number of previous pregnancies,

Units, Quantities, etc

2012-03-19 Thread Heath Frankel
of a DiscretisedQuantity type inheriting from Quantity, which I think is also a reasonable alternative. what do others think? - thomas -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openehr.org/pipermail/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org/attachments/20120319

Units, Quantities, etc

2012-03-19 Thread Grahame Grieve
Hi Heath yes, this the problem. I don't know if your solution works. I've considered putting a service up in the cloud that provides a service to take represented units and convert them to ucum units. But it's a many to many mapping unless the conversion is actually done in the context of a

Units, Quantities, etc

2012-03-19 Thread Stef Verlinden
Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone Op 18 mrt. 2012 om 15:15 heeft Thomas Beale thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com het volgende geschreven: I still think Quantities should be computable as such - if we don't know how many mcg of substance 3 puffs is, we can't compute with it. Although i tend to

openEHR / FHIR data types cross analysis

2012-03-19 Thread Sam Heard
Sorry about the XML slur :) Sam -Original Message- From: openehr-technical-bounces at lists.openehr.org [mailto:openehr- technical-bounces at lists.openehr.org] On Behalf Of Grahame Grieve Sent: Monday, 19 March 2012 8:16 AM To: For openEHR technical discussions Subject: Re: openEHR

openEHR / FHIR data types cross analysis

2012-03-19 Thread Grahame Grieve
Sorry about the XML slur :) Sam sigh. I'll get over it. Eventually. At least you didn't claim I was influenced by sql. Grahame -Original Message- From: openehr-technical-bounces at lists.openehr.org [mailto:openehr- technical-bounces at lists.openehr.org] On Behalf Of Grahame

openEHR conference - proposal for Lake Bled, Slovenia 2012 - POLL

2012-03-19 Thread Sam Heard
Hi Shinji We could not get sponsorship for the conference, which is a shame. For that reason it looks like that will not happen until we have Associates and some core funding. I would like to organise some Google handouts at different times each month - probably 3/month suiting Asia,

openEHR conference - proposal for Lake Bled, Slovenia 2012 - POLL

2012-03-19 Thread Sam Heard
Hi Shinji We could not get sponsorship for the conference, which is a shame. For that reason it looks like that will not happen until we have Associates and some core funding. I would like to organise some Google handouts at different times each month - probably 3/month suiting Asia,

visualizing AQL result

2012-03-19 Thread Sam Heard
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openEHR (local) terminologies

2012-03-19 Thread Sam Heard
Hi Diego Rong has made this generally available - or it is in the download of the archetype editor. Cheers, Sam -Original Message- From: openehr-technical-bounces at lists.openehr.org [mailto:openehr- technical-bounces at lists.openehr.org] On Behalf Of Diego Bosc? Sent: Thursday, 1

openEHR (local) terminologies

2012-03-19 Thread Sam Heard
Hi Diego Rong has made this generally available - or it is in the download of the archetype editor. Cheers, Sam -Original Message- From: openehr-technical-bounces at lists.openehr.org [mailto:openehr- technical-bounces at lists.openehr.org] On Behalf Of Diego Bosc? Sent: Thursday, 1

openEHR conference - proposal for Lake Bled, Slovenia 2012 - POLL

2012-03-19 Thread Dra Carola Hullin Lucay Cossio
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openEHR-technical Digest, Vol 67, Issue 34

2012-03-19 Thread Sam Heard
Hi Tim HL7 Twittered about making things more openly available the other daydoes anyone have the link? Cheers, Sam -Original Message- From: openehr-technical-bounces at openehr.org [mailto:openehr-technical- bounces at openehr.org] On Behalf Of Timothy Cook Sent: Thursday, 23

Units, Quantities, etc

2012-03-19 Thread Thomas Beale
On 18/03/2012 21:45, Grahame Grieve wrote: ok, so you say it should be computable, but then allow a fixed unit of one, and some other code as well. And this in a subclass of Quantity, so you could always use it or encounter it in place of quantity. So if that's the case, why not simply make it

Units, Quantities, etc

2012-03-19 Thread Grahame Grieve
you'll still have to look, even though it's not many cases. Grahame On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Thomas Beale thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com wrote: On 18/03/2012 21:45, Grahame Grieve wrote: ok, so you say it should be computable, but then allow a fixed unit of one, and some

Units, Quantities, etc

2012-03-19 Thread Thomas Beale
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2012-03-19 Thread Thomas Beale
with 90% (or maybe its only 75%) of all clinical data. - thomas * * * * -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openehr.org/pipermail/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org/attachments/20120319/a33f3164/attachment.html

Are you doing an academic project using openEHR?

2012-03-19 Thread Thomas Beale
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openEHR conference - proposal for Lake Bled, Slovenia 2012 - POLL

2012-03-19 Thread Shinji KOBAYASHI
Hi Sam, As regards to world-wide economic recession, getting fund for RD is far difficult. I am challenging some funds from our government or funds in Japan, such as this. http://www.jsps.go.jp/english/e-meeting/index.html This fund aims to support conference in Japan, but I think it would be

openEHR-technical Digest, Vol 67, Issue 34

2012-03-19 Thread Klaus D Veil
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2012-03-19 Thread michael.law...@csiro.au
Graham, I'm trying to make sense of this discussion around computability -- what are the kinds of things that one wants to compute with these kinds of countable things? michael On 18/03/12 10:57 PM, Grahame Grieve grahame at healthintersections.com.au wrote: Are discrete units only

Units, Quantities, etc

2012-03-19 Thread Grahame Grieve
for me, conversion between different units that are comparable. You should ask Tom what else he thinks it yields up. I'd be interested. Grahame On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Michael.Lawley at csiro.au wrote: Graham, I'm trying to make sense of this discussion around computability --

Are you doing an academic project using openEHR?

2012-03-19 Thread pablo pazos
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2012-03-19 Thread michael.law...@csiro.au
Hi Linda, I think your first example demonstrates why tablet is not a Unit -- I could equally say: 2 Mountains of Paracetamol 500 mg + Codeine Phosphate 15mg Mountains is therapeutically equivalent to 1 Mountain of Paracetamol 1g + Codeine Phosphate 30 mg Mountains Really what I am

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2012-03-19 Thread Ed Dodds
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2012-03-19 Thread michael.law...@csiro.au
Well I'm still stuck trying to understand what you mean by 'computable'. And, no, a clinician cannot prescribe (just) 2 tablets -- I cannot compare that with 500 mg unless I know how much is in each tablet. Once you've told me how much is in each tablet, then (from a computability

Units, Quantities, etc

2012-03-19 Thread Colin Sutton
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openEHR (local) terminologies

2012-03-19 Thread Rong Chen
The URL to the terminology file as part of a minimum terminology service is here, http://www.openehr.org/svn/ref_impl_java/TRUNK/mini-termserv/src/main/resources/openehr_terminology_en.xml Cheers, Rong On 18 March 2012 23:32, Sam Heard sam.heard at oceaninformatics.com wrote: Hi Diego Rong has

Regarding the available Template XML schema

2012-03-19 Thread Ian McNicoll
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2012-03-19 Thread Thomas Beale
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2012-03-19 Thread Daniel Karlsson
Dear all, On s?n, 2012-03-18 at 13:57 +0100, Grahame Grieve wrote: Are discrete units only encountered in administrative directives? Do you prohibit people from making observations or measurements that include discrete units such as puffs, tablets, patches, vials, strips etc? There are

openEHR / FHIR data types cross analysis

2012-03-19 Thread Sam Heard
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